How Great is NFS Carbon in 2022? | KuruHS Reacts to Raycevick
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Wait a minute....... I watched this before ......... Eden did you accidentally put out this video early????
time to check it out!
I need a full vod of this segment.
Ngl
You should try to get in to contact with the NFS CO people. It’s extremely interesting on what they are working on.
I personally love carbon more because the Dodge Viper exist and I can role play as an intercontinental ballistic missile
Lmfao same
you have to admit tho, the handling on that car is dreadful
I prefer corvette more... It's the best car in the game
It was underrated in my opinion
the reason why MW runs better than Carbon on PC is because MW (on PC) just reused UG2's renderer and modded it slightly to support shadows, while Carbon finally made use of the Xbox 360 renderer (well... 99% of it lol) with its revamped particle system (which MW on PC for some reason didn't get, while the GameCube did... 10/10 logic)
Is there a way to port the renderer to PC?
@@wibs0n68 technically yes,
practically, not really
Modern Warfare?? oh you you are one of those reddit abbreviator types *rolls eyes*
@@cassetteo I'm sure you understood what he meant, mb.
@@iCoolaxe mb.. Mercedes Benz?
Autosculp NEEDS to come back. The things you could do with the body kits was AWESOME. Every car was truly unique and to your taste.
Yeah by millimeters unique
@@luichinplaystation610 yup. There’s a reason I have my ps2 save card with my custom lotus Elise still stashed away. I WILL replicate it in real life before I die. When you got done with the autosculp ESPECIALLY after 100% the game where it allows a few more options it truly felt the the car was YOUR creation.
I think, when Colin says "im the best, and you know it", in some point, racing for TFK territory, you may race Colin, and he's tough. This happens with Samsom and Yumi too
Going back to Carbon, 2 things that really bug me is the EX Trax soundtrack is only used in freeroam and time trials, and the rest of the games was just OST. Really changes the mood of the game. And the 2nd thing is the tire screeching is completely overbearing. Any slight turning input would just be obnoxious screeching.
@@yosomeone7743 there is a music mod called "More EA Trax" for NFS carbon. It will activate the licensed songs in races. I'm not gonna post the link here because TH-cam keeps on deleting my previous comments with the mod link because TH-cam is retarded.
There is a mod for the PC version of the game that allows the licensed music to play in every race instead of only playing checkpoint races and free roam and another mod that reducea the volume of the tires screeching
I played the Carbon PC and GameCube versions and I bet I heard the EA Trax themes in Circuit races and such tho...
Why I LOVE NFS CARBON :
1. Its direct sequel of MW ( all though admittedly being half-baked but the car selection in this game is great )
2.Great handling physics. Each class differs from another. Steering and terrain detection of this game is great until Prostreet.
3.Engine sounds in this game are top tier. ( stock Ford GT for instance )
4. Techinical tracks. ( Palmont is twisty from Rockport )
5. THE LAST NFS WORKS FANTASTIC ON KEYBOARD AND JOYSTICK.
Why i dislike NFS Carbon.
1. The tier system. In previous NFS, you could just max upgrade your starter car and still be competetive with the cars in the endgame. In Carbon, your max upgraded RX8 can't compete with the likes of Lamborghinis and Mercedes
2. The Class system. I understand that this was supposed to add variety to the handling of the cars, but a 2006 Corvette shouldn't handle like its tires are from 1920. A Lamborghini Gallardo and Lotus Elise shouldn't understeer like a pig.
3. Race payouts, in Most Wanted, race payouts stayed the same whether you completeled the event before or not. In Carbon, it goes from a few thousand to 500 credits. Ridiculous
EDIT: These are just things i dislike about the game. I still like the game overall and find it very fun.
I mean, ProStreet still works with keyboard controls quite well imo,I've beaten the game completely twice with it.
I prefer nfs prostreet handling expect for the highway battle
@@r3uvsgaming bruh, you can use max tuned 240sx versus all tier 3 boss cars and win. Heck, you can even overtake Darius's Audi R8 in canyon battle. Elise actually has decent handling. Mainly in online ranked races, 240sx, elise, corvette and darius audi top choices for racing.
@@michazmuda1477 I passed Darius with a Skyline in the first corners of the canyon battle
19:30 Eden's reaction in chat is killing me since he's the editor😭
Was*
@@TheRambossss He still edits a few vids. Last video was edited by him.
Wait, Eden is Kuru's editor - That's kinda sad, I think he's BETTER than Kuru
While I agree Carbon was too short, at least it had very little repetition. Most Wanted often gets lauded as the best, but for me the repetitive gamestyle of "new blacklist member, beat 4 races, get x amount of bounty" felt just like a way to lengthen the game through cheap methods rather than actually making a lengthy game.
Cannot agree with you. Being drastically shorter than MW isn't doing any favors for Carbon.
@@garygrandy9443 you cannot agree with what exactly? I already said Carbon was too short, meaning that I would’ve liked to see it have a longer story mode.
It is also fact that Most Wanted has extremely repetitive gameplay. You may like that gameplay of course, everyone likes different things, but it’s not something to disagree over in terms of it being repetitive since that’s simply how the game is designed.
So what are you disagreeing with?
@@blinkachu5275 most wanted is not Repetitive
@@crash4267 but it is. Again, you may LIKE the way the game goes but the blacklists members always have the same requirements (beat x amount of races, get x amount of bounty) and then you do two races agains them.
@@blinkachu5275 what are talking about. The milestones were always different, bounty was different, beat a number of races etc etc. Sounds like you didn't finish Most Wanted because the further down the Black list you went, the more races you have to go against them.
Bring back memories. Carbon is Great honestly, back when me(and my friends) despise Pro Street because its not Street Racing haha. Funny because now I just bored with Carbon in how short it was, and suddenly we Loved Pro Street so much because its one of a kind we wish know better back in a day.
Carbon's main problems were the game was so short that I literally completed it in 1 sitting and yes, cars are way slower to the point where hitting 190 MPH is an achievement
I think that cars aren't slower, it's just map has too many corners
@@TDB-rm4qt Indeed
@@TDB-rm4qt yeah indeed there were few roads for a high speed
But mw there were many narrow roads
The cars aren’t slower. The map is different and also the effects while driving fast are different making 100mph feel slower than you’re actually going.
@@TDB-rm4qt nah, the cars ARE slower, but only by a bit. Not "way slower" as he claims.
Carbon is really easy till endgame. Like, you can win against 3 boss with a stock car.
The only problem is grinding. After complete the race, it only give you 500 credit if you try to enter the race again.
Agree, that was truly the worst part about Carbon.
Endgame wasn't really that difficult.
@@TurboAlice Makes sense tho....
@@davedarius7346 in what way did it make sense? That was simply a horrible game design, it's even worse than in NFS 2015.
You can fix it in the PC version using career_game 0x644ced4e to increase the 500 replay reward.
I remember it felt the games were getting worse and better at the same time. The problem you find out years later is Black Box was being overworked by EA and had them releasing games yearly. Them alone. So the dev time was actually months. In less than 13 months they made these games. That's why a lot of the concept never made it. Big features were cut. Underground 1 was meant to already have the open world. It wasn't all good even back then. Imagine if they were given 2 years or had a bigger team to split in 2. Imagine what we would've gotten as final products.
Anyone else remember when Kuru released this video for a few minutes and then unlisted it?
Yep, I think it's because it was uploaded at the same time as one of his previous video (just like GT2 and Carbon Bouncy Mod video)
3:18
The guy she tells you not to worry about: NFS Most Wanted
You: NFS Carbon
Canyon Music is just epic. It makes the races more intense
That bit at 5:59 is so damn fitting for the footage Ray used there. Since 2017, the F1 games have had some... weird things going on with the suspension tuning settings, with 2017's in particular literally being upside down. You are very right to be wary of the devs on matters like this.
Wow! The thumbnail has great graphics and awesome detail! Look at that!
finally this actual video pop up and not just some random bug on my notification from that high stakes video 😁
I miss the custom Music that NFS had back for police pursuits and Carbons racing themes, even world has done that and it's amazing. The soundtracks are memorable and gave a certain feeling towards the even you were doing, I wish Modern NFS gave that feeling that carbon, most wanted and world gave with their OST
4:58 I actually thinking that NFS drift physics is more inspired by Burnout instead of Ridge Racer, which is make sense since it was developed by the same dev as Burnout series. Idk if Burnout was also inspired by Ridge Racer or not
Ridge racer is older than burnout and the developer of burnout is criterion games not blackbox vancouver
@@Zakiev_Omar I know Ridge Racer was older than Burnout, that's why I'm unsure if Burnout also inspired by Ridge Racer or not (since they play differently). And what I mean by same dev of NFS and Burnout was Criterion, not Black Box (I'm not talking about Carbon). Criterion also make some NFS aswell, but not for 2009 or older NFS. And since their first NFS (HP2010), NFS physics just completely changed
Yes and in my own opinion nfs mw 2012 has the best car handling model it kinda reminds me of driver san francisco handling model except the brake to drift part of it and in my own theory at the time is that criterion and blackbox was supposed to be collaborating to make nfs 2012 and of course making a new game engine cause blackbox own in house is old and deprecated already at that time and was looking for a new game engine to replace the old EAGLto Chameleon game engine but well we already know what happened
@@Zakiev_Omar What about the Frostbite engine that BlackBox used to make NFS The Run? Unless if it's the same engine as you mentioned
Yes they replaced there own EAGL game engine to frostbite because its gotten old and in my theory most of the team who worked on EAGL Aren't working at blackbox at that time, so they choosed frostbite cause it has better graphics good compatability for next gen platforms (i heard that frostbite is a bit complicated to use) i don't know why EA ghost games didn't use nfs the run as a base to make the other nfs tittle when they reboot nfs back in 2015
TBH if it wasn't for the fact that the game's so short and that the Darius Canyon Duel was so unbeliavably difficult, Carbon could be the best game in the whole NFS Series, but it's still a great game nonetheless
Try Darius' canyon duel with a maxed out Evo, its the best handling car in the game and will only take you 3 restarts at worst.
@@r3uvsgaming that was the car I used when I beat Carbon for the first time before I found out I HAD to downgrade the Corvette's suspension to stock for it to be somewhat drivable. In case you don't know with the Race Suspension the car has a horrible handling, it doesn't make corners for 5h17 unless you either almost stop the car or use the handbrake. But with everything maxed out except the suspension, although the car slides all over the place (not as much as the Viper tho) it gets much easier to race with it on Canyons and on Silverton
@@EddieMaverickHunter did you maybe tune the suspension for more grip? I find that when tuning muscle cars' suspension for more grip, the physics glitch out and drive terribly. I first found this out when i tried doing it on the 69 Camaro, and I reckon you did the same thing
@@r3uvsgaming no, I tried to tune the Z06's suspension to oversteer and the tires to drift, but that doesn't help either. Even with this setup the car doesn't make corners for 5h17, so the best solution was to just nerf the suspension from the Race Kit to the Stock Kit. Which, like I said, although it makes the Corvette slide all over the place, it becomes somewhat drivable. If you still don't understand, then play Carbon and do this process: get the Corvette, max it out and apply all the upgrades, then go to the performance menu, go to the suspension and purposefully reduce it to stock, then reinstall it on the aftermarket cart.
I'm not a pro tuner, but here's the setup I always used:
ENGINE: Full HP
TRANSMISSION: Full Acceleration
SUSPENSION: I usually don't modify it, but for Muscles and Exotics I set it for Oversteer, and if the car still isn't good at corners (AKA Murciélago and Z06), I reduce it to stock to help improve the handling
NITROUS: Full Power
TIRES: I usually leave it neutral for tuners regardless of their tier (except for the Skyline), while for Muscles and Exotics I set them for Drift, and for the Tier 2 & 3 (apart from the McLaren SLR, since it has the best handling among the Tier 3 Exotics) I reduce it to stock to also help the car corner better
BRAKES: Fully set to front bias
TURBO/SUPERCHARGER: Full high RPM
Yes. Carbon is not Most Wanted, but it's still good and enjoyable. And there's no reasons to complain about it.
13:15 I've had it happen on a section of highway before, but it was only a barrier that poofed
I personally love Carbon more than Most Wanted because of the canyons and using that outside of level glitch in order to get to them in free roam (Along with San Juan and the Drift Course)
Carbon was my first Nfs game I've played back in 2013 or 14 when I found my old ps2. Before that the only Nfs experience I knew of was my friend brought his MW from his house to play on my ps2 ages ago. Carbon stuck with me for the asthetics of permanent night with the flashy colors and the grouping of the cars. My fav thing about it was the whole fighting for territory dominance against other gangs and I didn't know why, I never played MW so I never knew at the time that Darius bailed the player out against Cross, he had you try to impress him by beating the gangs and as repayment for him giving Cross 150K, he tries to eliminate you trying to claim Palmont City for himself with nobody to stop him. It finally clicked why Cross chased me in the beginning when I heard of MW and made the link it was a part 2 to MW. Anyway the reason I liked Carbon over some of the others were 1 the looks 2 the gameplay and 3 the prospect of taking over a city. My only complaint is yes the story is way too short, I wish that after you beat the game the smaller gangs would try to conquer your territory and do Canyon fights against their bosses. 4 Canyon fights was fun but c'mon. Later got around to playing Rivals and eventually trying Payback and Heat, then I got my own copy of MW. Its a toss up between my love of Carbon and the timelessness of MW, If the cops and story were a bit more lengthy and engaging, Carbon would have won easily.
as you sayed before carbon was an unfinished product released to the community and it show into mods such as endgame witch that extra content is added into the game along some extra cars
Zeebo is a brazilian console! import taxes here are absurd, this changed over time as consoles started to be manufactured here, but the launch price here is still ridiculous (at launch the ps4 arrived here costing R$4,000 which at the time was worth US$1,818!). And no, i NEVER met anyone that actualy has played a Zeebo!
Damn it i wish you included the intro graphics in raycevick's video they were insane
Just for some explain,Zeebo is a brazilian console made By TecToy, It is Basic an Java cell phone, and when was sold, cost the same price of The first iPhone, and have some games, not good, but terrible, so terrible tha became fun
Carbon is and always will be one if my favorites in the series :)
In my opinion Carrbon was a very underrated game it was the end story of most wanted and was very 🔥 in everything in my opinion
when did you talk about this on stream? would like to see the full vod of this
The explosion scene in the PSP version never happened in the DS version that I played, the whole plot in “Own The City” was basically a plot twist in the DS
imo the best driftung in nfs titles are nr 1 for carbon and 2nd for hot pursuit 2010 cuz they both are satisfyng to drift in
I was kind of perplexed with how Raycevick undersold the amount of content that was in NFS Carbon. Coming back to it in 2022, unlike how he did last year but BEFORE the servers were shuttered, I can understand how short it felt without the Online Multiplayer/Challenges. However…when you COULD achieve the Online Rewards and actually play with an EA Black Box Moderator?!
You had a MOUNTAIN OF CONTENT to play through! I would imagine it might be frustrating to level up by doing races and the various exclusive Race Types being a pain to play if you didn’t much care for them, but otherwise the Reward Cards make the Online Play feel like it’s you working towards something. Especially because you can get cars like the Toyota MR2 and whatnot in your game!
Even though the Story is short, it feels pretty long if you allow yourself to try each Car Type Playthrough and once you dig into the way each car feels in their respective Story Modes.
He pretty much undersold the game in my opinion, but I understand that it’s not to his preference. This was the LAST GREAT Need For Speed game (if you don’t count NFS Heat by Ghost) if you didn’t love ProStreet; ProStreet itself was a nice step in another direction. It’s sad that EA Black Box didn’t continue the Tuner Customization & Street Racing types of games in earnest and instead trying to re-invent a wheel they mastered with Underground 2, Most Wanted, and Carbon!
Next you should react to Colourshed's video reviews
Sheesh Love u Kuru!
I would love an entire game that's just more of those canyon races with the same feel and soundtrack.
Underglow neon needs to return in NFS because we haven't seen it since Underground 2 and it saddens me that each game after that lacks that feature
The Own the City drafter's pull, while janky, was pretty easy to abuse when you get used to it, so playing it as a kid who never used the brakes, I would use the drafter on a sharp turn, let go of X and steer.
The game is so short that 10 year old me could finish half of the campaign in less than 2 hours. But I love it, it's the second best NFS game in my book just below HP 2010.
Some of my friend hate the drift in carbon but they ok with juiced 2 drift endurance which i think is more harder in my opinion
Juiced 2 can get a little tricky to get used to,that's for sure. Not as much grip as in Carbon,the car might end up sliding into the wall.
i prefer to beat a 10 hour game 3 times than a 30 hour game just once
Just like the thumbnail say ITS still great ITS still fun to play
Wait is this reuploud? Or unlisted
For me NFS Most Wanted and Carbon are by far my favorite NFS games of the Franchise. ☯️
I hate cop missions, that's why I never finished nfs Mw.
But I still regularly watch your content haha
You should play full auto1/2 some day , fun games
multiplayer open world only panders to multiplayer groups meeting
otherwise they could probably get away with local hosting.
but even though it's "boring" open world is vital for immersion, i hate when i see something during a race, and i want to explore it or screenshot it, only to be blocked by an invisible wall.
but you're right, as far as gameplay is concerned it's pointless
Raycevick is the reason how i met Battle Royale mod.
An hour of the original Video? I have no time for that to watch it first XD
Battle royal mod and redux mod would make the definitive edition to carbon in my opinion
Currently on my 50% from 100% completion still a good game even today
reason why Carbon was alot slower than the mw is because of the chase cam
Nah, the cars actually are much slower compared to MW, just pay attention to your speedometer on both games, you'll see the difference
@@r3uvsgaming Not at all. In both games you can reach 300kmh easily on the faster cars.
Kentucky is right, the issue is the camera, making the game FEEL a lot slower.
@@r3uvsgaming if you dont believe me, play nfs mw redux. there was a new camera coming straight out from carbon. and compare both the most wanted version and the carbon version.
@@blinkachu5275 average speed dude, average speed, not top speed. MW cars have much sharper acceleration and handling compared to Carbon's cars, thus allowing them to reach faster average speeds
@@r3uvsgaming there are more cars in MW so obviously
I went for all reward cards, so the game was long enough for me. Although it required you to do so much stupid shite, like filling your garage with tuners, muscles and exotics. On PS2, it was even bugged so you couldn't get every reward card.
Nice
What stream was this?
wtf im playing Nitro at the moment and DAMN its the carbon physics, but tweaked and improved. Nitro is SO fun
3:15
Thats my reaction after finishing heat.
The game felt too short aka 10-20hr when compare to payback 45-50hr.
carbon reminds me of 2015 night and drifts oriented
Ich hab die Story immer noch nicht verstanden 😂😂
I still haven't understand the story... maybe should play im Battle Royale Mode😁
I got the mod installed but since it doesn't work with NFS-VltEd to install the mod, binary is required to make the mod work, but since I don't know how to install it properly and managed to messed it up five times in the row. There are no tutorials yet of how to use binary to install the newer version of CBR on TH-cam, yes it does have a tutorial note but I don't know clearly how to do it properly. Can someone help?
I enjoyed Own The City personally.
Im thinking to play carbon again in my ps3 but using freeroam to go to the races, and not using fast travel
Cool 🔥 I want to do that too
where do you buy this game ?
I was 8 years old and beat it in like 4 days. I was mad the map size mostly.
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wheres the original vid?
Do you think Carbon need(ed) a Balanced class(everything is average)?
i would just read his name as Ray-Civic
Undercover on the PSP was great honestly, it felt really fucking fast
Like once you maxed out your cars you could go 400+ kph everywhere and there were almost no sharp corners
Zeebo was a mexican console that tried to fight against the other gen 9 consoles. Colaborating with the nationally famous franchise of huevocartoons.
It had the power of a psvita... i think...
Do you have a MW2012 Review?
NFS CARBON IS LAST NFS FOR ME
I LOVE NFSU2/MW 2005/CARBON
The clash of two gigants
That's true
Please play rFactor 2 some day!!
Cheers to 5th anniversary 🥂🥂
Who remembers NFS World Online?
The actual fact they turned Lockport to Palmont makes the game interesting..
There is only 1 history. From Underground 2 main character comes to what we see before NFS Carbon, then Most Wanted and after again - Carbon (And Between Carbon (Before) and Most Wanted main character gets BMW M3 GTR ALMS)
I have the original CD with that code on it 😁
yes
I played carbon when i was a kid, i didnt know english yet so i thought you NEEDED to pass your opponent in canyon races
i put many hours into this, it was the last Need for Speed i bought, i have NFS underground 1 and 2
Like ir or not,Nfs Carbon is still one of the best racing games of all times and its miles better than the Undergrounds.
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Carbon was good but 2005 most wanted was brilliant the only problem with most wanted for me is i wanted a bigger blacklist as there is only 15 on it on both ps2 and xbox360 i just wish microsoft would put it on backwards compatability or remastered as i think the sales would beat the likes of forza
I hate how slidey the cars were in Carbon tbh. I really loved how grippy the cars were in Underground 1 and 2
I loved Carbon beat it multiple times
Zeebo is Mexican and Brazillian console
Here’s the answer, Kuru. Great.
wow
My only complaint about carbon is how short the story is.
i played the campaign earlier this year, after getting the pink slip to wolf's DB9, i sort of came to the conclusion that the exotics in this game must kind of suck, i mean it was maxed and i couldn't win a speed trap race, so i immediately went and bought a corvette which, even unfinished, with lower stats, destroyed the DB9, also, c''mon kuru, prostreets drifting is not only more realistic, but way more satisfying to nail
I think Zeeboo it’s from Brazil
I want to reply it, again. Recently played MW
There's Undercover for the PSP? 😐 😆
Yes
Carbon is alright. But mw 2005 is good but the true nostalgic classic for me at least was hot pursuit 2
Carbon is a mix of MW and U1.
He says it's like Initial D like that's bad.
Fast travel also make carbon feel wayyy to short, look at ug2, we need to drive to every shop and to race start, but in carbon we can just upgrade our car at our safehouse and just use world map to jump to any event.
UG2 was straight up annoying. You had to drive every shop to mod your car. the way Ghost utilized fast travel in Payback was good. you have to drive to races, but you can teleport to shops and gas stations, and you can mod your car visually in your garage.
Nfs Carbon,, forever,,, Nikki my best girl in NFS carbon games on pC games my friends,, ☺️😀
I still didnt get the story behind carbon Lul