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What’s ludicrous is that this was considered one of Disneys biggest failures
What I’ve read is that Disney was wanting to get away from hand done animation style and into CGI animation and so kinda intentionally skipped marketing for this so that it would do poorly and they’d have an excuse to cancel future sequel plans.
@Adam Nisbett specifically the ceo of Disney ordered it to fail which is disgusting because the writers actors and directors considered this a passion project.
no one considered it a failure except for disney, which they expected because they're the ones that made it happen lol
It didn’t help that it was also released at the same time as other, WAY more popular movies (like Harry Potter). 😢
Don’t only cared about money not quality film making. The filmmakers made Disney’s hat it is today.
Not the CEO
16:25 doppler didn’t hire a pirate crew. He hired a crew that just so happened to be pirates but kept that part of their lives under wraps.
Silver said he convinced Doppler that he and his mates were an "upstanding crew". Hence, his anger at them nearly brawling at the first provocation.
This and Atlantis are absolutely deeply and criminally underrated films. Treasure Planet is so well retold in space like this. The story of pirates just fits in space so well. Silver is such a complex and cool character.
In regards to "omg is Silver Jim's dad?", no. But he was the one who burned down the inn at the beginning!
We almost got a sequel to this. Plans were drawn up, original drawings were done for the story and characters, a story was settled on, and they were going to cast William Dafoe as the villain (coming right off his villain role in Spider-Man btw). They were even going to do a tv show. But all of that changed when the movie bombed at the box office, which was completely Disney's fault because they didn't even advertise the film properly.
And to be honest, I'm actually happy that we didn't get a sequel or a tv series. What made this film so special was that it was simply a story about a young teenager trying to make his mother proud and discovering a father-figure along the way of his adventure, while also truly learning. There was no love interest or forced villain, all of it was organic and very different from a normal Disney movie. The sequel apparently was going to have a love interest and a villain who sounded rather cliched, although the casting sounded great (love Dafoe's work!). It just sounded like a lame way to do a sequel.
Although, I am open to a live-action film of this (including the Atlantis film) if Disney gets their sh!t together and stops with the woke politics.
I still remember when I went to a premier event for this movie. I was so young, but I fell in love with the movie right away I'll never forget it
This movie is so underrated!! I saw it in middle school and don’t understand why it’s not talked about more. Pirates And space sci-fi, great animation and voice actors, what could be better?! Such creativity in the resetting of this classic story into futuristic space and an adventure both kids and adults can get into. Thank you for reacting to this!!
This movie is so underrated.....Treasure Island is one of my favorite novels and they really managed to adapt it to a space version here
Ah, Treasure Planet, Disney's red-headed stepchild. If ANY of their animations got the live action treatment, it should have been this one.
We did get a game "sequeL" or sorts. There also was a planned sequel involving Jim at the Academy teaming up with Silver and some of his classmates to track down a missing ship known as the Centurion
This is a remake of the book Treasure Island.
I was not aware of that lol
@@AdamfromFWCI The book is amazing. It was considered pretty much one of the great 'boy's stories' when it came out, and it stands the test of time - I read it over a summer a few years back, and it's just a great adventure.
I love the mix of Age of Exploration style ships and technology mixed with Sci-fi. As somebody who has a fascination for both it works really well togheter. I get it might not work for others but the 70-30 split they aimed for just looks really cool to me. I also love the idea of making Jim slightly older and give him an absent father and therefore deepening the relation to Silver. Really a great coming of age story.
The mix of vintage and sci fi gives me Bioshock vibes
@@AdamfromFWCI I can dwfinitely see that. In this case the distance of the two eras/aesthetics is a lot bigger though so I get that for some people it might be to much. I love thos styles of ships and how they lived on them. A game that is fantastic for that is "the return of the Obra Dinn which delves really deep into the life onboard a ship/crew members etc while basically being a detective story trying to figure out the events that took place onboard the ship.
"Look at you! Glowing like a solar fire. You're something special, Jim. You're gonna rattle the stars, you are!"
Fun Fact: Dame Emma Thompson was pregnant during several recording sessions, which is how Captain Amelia turned out at the end of this movie.
Disney Cinematic Universe Fact: When Jim's (Austin Majors) mother (Laurie Metcalf) sits with him on his bed to read his book, on his bookshelf, there is a Stitch doll in an astronaut suit.
What Script Fact: The contest between Jim (Joseph Gordon-Levitt) and Silver (Brain Murphy), each coaxing Morph (Dane A. Davis) to come to them so they could obtain the map, was ad-libbed.
Cameos Cameos Fact: When Jim (Joseph Gordon-Levitt) and Dr. Doppler (David Hyde Pierce) arrive at the space-port, they get directions from two characters using a ladder. These are caricatures of directors John Musker (at the top of the ladder) and Ron Clements (holding the bottom of the ladder).
Animation Technical Breakthrough Fact: The humanoid characters are all hand-drawn. John Silver's (Brain Murphy) cyborg leg, arm, eye, and the robot B.E.N. (Martin Short) are flat-rendered CGI. The ship was created using Disney's "Deep Canvas" process, something that is beyond the scope of this comment to explain. In some scenes, all three types of animation appear simultaneously.
To add to this, the only other Disney movie (that I know of) that used deep-canvas animation more extensively was Disney’s Tarzan. Basically from what I remember learning about it is that they create a 3D model of the setting (forest, jungle, ship, etc.) and overlay the artwork on top of it.
Oh the ship was Deep Canvas! I had no idea, I thought it was CG!
Man... they need to bring deep canvas back...
The stuff you react to never stops surprising me! I love this movie! Another great and similar movie i highly recommend is Titan A.E. if you have never seen it, it is another great animated space movie that really struck a few memories for me as a kid. Keep up the great schitt my dude!
Cheers mate. I try to pay attention to the comments as much as possible. I notice certain things getting mentioned over time, so I'm glad this one landed with you :D
BTW..... Taskmaster UK? ;)
There actually was a sequel planned out for this movie, but due to Treasure Planet being box office failure - which was because of a mix of poor marketing (they gave away the whole plot in the trailers and released it in *december* when it’d clearly work better as a summer movie) and petty drama among the higher-ups (gotta love it 🙄).
Also fun fact in case it hasn’t been mentioned: this movie only contains 2 songs with lyrics in it, and neither are sung by any of the characters (they’re performed by the band ‘The Goo-Goo Dolls”), which is practically unheard of in Disney films (the only exceptions that I can think of being “Tarzan” and “Atlantis The Lost Empire”).
We were supposed to get a sequel to this but it was unfortuantely canceled, which is a shame because I would've loved to see where the story would continue.
25:10 I mean, he wasn't just antagonizing him to get a point across, he needed to somehow convince the pirate to come closer so he could grab his gun... I think it proved to be a pretty effective method 😂
Treasure planet and Atlantis…..criminally underrated. I loved them both dearly!
Technically, there is a sequel.
Its a videogame called Treasure Planet: Battle at Procyon. A real time strategy game that takes place 5 years after this film.
It tells the story of Jim going up the ranks of the Fleet, as well as meeting Silver again.
“He looks like he’s only part cyborg” 🤦🏼♀️😂
"He only looks like he's part-cyborg." 🤦
A cyborg is an organic living being with mechanical body parts. You can't be "part-cyborg".
If I remember correctly the commentary said that the characters that were ditched through the bottom of the ship around the 17 minute mark were chosen to get taken out because they were some of the more complicated to animate with the technology of the day.
"He looks like he's only part-cyborg."
You have no idea how funny that sounds to people who know what cyborgs are. Cyborgs are part-machine, part person. That's what makes what you said so funny.
Oh, also, I looked up the voice actor who plays that creepy spider dude that killed Mr. Arrow. His name is Michael Wincott. And, even though the accent in this movie through me off a little, I recognized that voice from somewhere. Turns out his not only Captain Frank Elgyn of the Auriga from Alien: Resurrection, but he's also Top Dollar, the main villain of The Crow! And, even though I've never seen Nope, he's in that movie, too. His character is a cinematographer named Antlers Holst.
This movie, despite it's few problems, especially in the world building, is definitely a big upgrade to the original novel. Which is not the fault of the novel, people wrote like that back then. I would even go so far that this movie is an upgrade to the original movie adaptation of the novel.
And it is a very enjoyable and entertaining movie.
I would suggest watching
Firefly- top notch space cowboy
Doctor Who - Top space /time show of all time. Including a really great pirates in space, cowboys in space , ect would be a great tv show for you to react too
Dr Who is a BIG commitment to start, I just dont have the hours in the week to add a show that big to my rotation.
I did start Firefly but the pilot episode (serenity) was really glum and slow, I couldnt get through the first hour of it.
I may revisit it, because I was genuinely excited about that show, especially with all the people I know who have recommended it. But that first ep just didnt connect with me on that day
@@AdamfromFWCI Having re-watched Firefly a few times, I know what you mean. I remember thinking "Was this always so so slow?" or "I gotta watch this so I can get to the good part" The good part being- basically the rest of the show. It literally picks up the very next episode "The Train Job". If you don't like it by the end of "Shindig" then you're just not going to like it: and that's okay.
The piolet episode is is the first session of a DnD group: Who are you, why are you here, and why do you agree to stay with the group?
It's clumsy, nobody trusts each other, everyone is trying to show off their character and talk about their backstory.
I love this movie, but I admit, I'm more of an Atlantis gal. We picked a ride or die underappreciated disney movie back in the day 😂
There was meant to be a sequel but Disney made sure it never saw the light of day.
Treasure Planets design was very Victorian Inspired.
There were initially plans to make a sequel to this film, but Disney decided it wasn't worth it due to how it bombed at the box office (earning 100 million against its budget of 140 million, which makes it the most expensive traditionally animated film btw)
A shame, because the plans for the sequel seem semi-fleshed out.
sad this movie to this day speaks to me in so many ways and as i grow up and the song for jim still makes me break down crying.
We deserve a sequel or a live action reboot
Just the sequel a live action might ruined it like so many others
That space powder I always assumed was ice from the comet they were riding alongside.
"He's only part-cyborg" a cyborg _is_ part organic and part machine, if anyone is fully mechanical they are a robot or something, not a cyborg
As a previous commenter said before, this is a remake of Treasure Island. A classic adventure story. I thought it was a great spacepunk remake of it. it's a crime that it did so badly in theaters. at least it is much loved outside of the big screen.
If you liked this, you may like the Muppet Treasure Island. Staring Tim Curry as Silver. It's Hilarious, as most all Muppet versions are. And it's a pretty good (Comedy) remake of the original story.
Loved the book “Treasure Island” as a teen and I loved this movie as well. Great reaction to a classic under appreciated Disney movie.
It’s Bouquet, was that a Keeping Up Appearances reference I heard ?
Indeed :D
@@AdamfromFWCI Nice. I used to watch that as a youth with my Grandparents, they loved British sitcoms. Have you ever seen Are You Being Served?
@CheshireKat528 that got really good airplay in Australia lol it was on at like 4pm well into the 90s.
Some Mothers So Ave Em too
@@AdamfromFWCI right on
I am not familiar with that one. I will have to check it out😃
This and Atlantis are in their own tier for me. Such refined nostalgia
Throw El Dorado in there too. DreamWorks/Elton John went off
captain appears, meows.
him: Rodent ears?
I never would've expected to be reminded of Keeping Up With Appearances (at 10:06) while watching a Treasure Planet reaction
You never know what outdated reference I'll make on here lol
YES! Disney please!! Make amends about Star Wras and just.. make a sequel with the script and design that was actually planned! :'(
I highly encourage you to look into the making of this movie, it's very interesting. Disney set this movie up to fail. It came out the same year as Stitch however Stitch was HEAVILY marketed and hardly any advertising was done for Treasure Planet. The trailer they did put out contained a spoiler showing Silver as the bad guy.
It's even more shitty that Disney did that because this was a passion project for its creators. They wanted to do Treasure Island in space but Disney told them they had to make a couple other movies first then they'd let them.
I can only do so much justice to the story paraphrasing a bunch of stuff i learned a long time ago, but you should look into it
A sequel was already in the works when this movie was released in theaters. Due to poor outcome, it got cancelled.
I’m sure it’s already on here, but the ultimate space western is the TV show Firefly. 😁
Yes Mandalorian is in the style of the old spaghetti westerns.
I'm not entirely sure if anyone told you how it was made or not but Musker and Clements (the directors) had been trying to make this film for years. It was their dream/passion project but they had to keep working on other films like Little Mermaid, Aladdin, and Hercules before Disney would allow them to do so.
They came in with the idea that the story would be set in 70% Victorian Times (like the original Treasure Island story) and 30% in space (thus the 70/30 rule was made for this film so that every aspect of this film would be 70% old fashioned and 30% sci-fi; even the music is 70% classical music and 30% new music and the animation is 70% hand-drawn and 30% CG especially with Silver's cyborg parts and B.E.N.).
There were sadly multiple reasons why this film didn't do well and, admittedly, all of that blame could be put on Disney because 1) the heads didn't fully believe in the project so 2) the marketing for this film was horrible and spoiled a lot and 3) the film would come out in a time where fully CG films were taking over the animation industry and other animation companies were also in the process of switching to CG films because that's what was bringing in the audience (this came out around the time when Monster's Inc, Shrek, Jimmy Newtron, Ice Age, and the like were being released with box office numbers that were completely overshadowing hand-drawn films like Atlantis, Treasure Planet, and Road to El Dorado with the only exception to the rule being Lilo and Stitch).
Appreciate the input, but can I offer some advice?
Make your comments more concise and easier to read.
I get so many comments like this that are as long as a chapter from a book. Its hard to stay invested while reading such a long paragraph of text.
Again, I appreciate your input, but comments this long and complex are a bit unfair to expect reactors to digest and understand in its entirety.
I hope this helps :)
If you love the idea of space pirates, you'd love Firefly
Watched most of the 2 hour pilot and was bored out of my skull. Its one of the only reactions I bailed on midway through.
I hear that pilot isnt a good example of the remainder of the series, so I may give it another try some day
The best space western series to me will always be "Firefly"!
8:01 there is no such thing as a part cyborg. The definition of cyborg is part biological and part robotic. So every amputee with a robotic/motor controlled joint or limb is a cyborg.
Im pretty sure what you are thinking of is an android. 100% synthetic but looks exactly like a human. (Like the replicants in blade runner)
25:10 considering how bad a shot he is when intentionally aiming getting his target as close as possible makes it the easiest person to hit with a shot.
First time I’ll watch treasure planet.
I’ve heard this is good but never saw it. Happy to check it as you react. 😂
I do recommend the full movie, I do have to chop out lots and there were some great relationships that grew over the full run time. But I'm flattered you would still watch my video even having not seen the original content :)
Right up there with the most underrated Disney films. Not perfect, I think there are some significant pacing issues and it does lack some emotional development, but it's quite good regardless.
If, for some reason, you have not seen the Lord of the Rings movies I would love to get your reaction to them.
If you've only seen the theatrical versions and have not seen the extended versions before, I'd like your opinions on how those extra scenes make it better or worse.
If you've never seen them: the theatrical version is okay for "The Fellowship of the Ring" but I must insist on the extended versions for "The Two Towers" and "The Return of the King" because I have seen many reactors ask questions about "what's going on?" in a reaction, looked for the answers in their comments, and found many spoilers from well meaning super-fans. With the extended versions, most of those common questions get answered.
Also it's TOTALLY acceptable to break up each movie into 2 or 3 parts. Where ever you think is best.
You absolutely will need tissues for the end of the last movie Return of the King for one reason of another.
You're going to get a HUGE amount of lore and filming insight into the making of movies, story, characters, and world in your comments. It is GREAT fun and a deeeeeep rabbit hole.
Thankyou Pip.
Knowing how consuming it was for me to watch the Harry Potter series, I know I will need to schedule LOTR movies in pretty severely.
I'll probably watch them one day but I know it'll be a colossal stretch both time wise and interest wise, it's not a genre I find myself seeking out unless I had the channel
The first Harry potter movie came the same time with this. Disney didn't have a chance sadly.
Oh I had a big crush on him as a kid
Treasure Planet was adapted from a book called Treasure Island written in 1882 by a Scotsman, the name of Robert Stevenson, lending to the age of exploration thematics. An amazing coming of age tale and a splendid addition to the corpus of British story, art and culture which, though rarely acknowledged as such, has provided those willing to listen - sometimes even those who won't - with immeasurable soulstenance, not a real word, but it should be. The themes explored within were certainly of their time, yet also transcendent of, describing the human drive for adventure, relation and self-discovery which is why it lended so well to adaptation, space being an easy and just as deadly substitute for the open ocean. It's likely the case that European sailors read this very story to their eventual sons inspiring them to chart their own destiny in a new far away and dangerous land with slim to no odds of survival let alone safety, although the age was rapidly drawing to an end as the story was penned. I watched this movie as a child and loved the classically British archetypal personalities expressed by the characters therein, and that they retained their original expressions from the source material, something rarely seen by modern adaptations by and for those deracinated from their cultural continuety. Dr. Doppler a man of science, John Silver, titleless yet aspires to riches, Mr. Arrow being a straight shooter, only the Captain was given a different character profile although the change was done well embodying a charming upperclasswoman ethos rather than a brooding, semi-sullen man carrying the weight a lifetime of hard often isolating voyage. Some of his character rubbed off as the inspiration for parts of Jim character, for example its the Captain rather than Jim who negotiates with silver in the book after the mutiny. Every half decade I like to go back and watch this film, to serve as a kind of unchanging benchmark to help me reflect on how I and the country around me is changing, the latter far more quickly.
Please enjoy The Princess Bride., if you have not seen it before.
INCONCEIVABLE!!
Entendí la referencia a Mrs. Bucket 😅
A cyborg is half robot
New brewstew episode out ma brotha!
i see that u love this movie.
Tldr. U dont want to get a sequel. Simply because they will never get even close to half of quality that this move have. And it would probably made bad look on this movie which i dont want to happen. Gatekeeping is bad but not at this case
Not enough movies nowadays actually showcase the importance of a father figure or mentor for young men. With how most of the West has governments that, through law, pretty much encourages divorce, the amount of kids growing up without a father is through the roof. Women nowadays are practically rewarded for breaking the contract of marriage, so yeah. Generations of kids ruined as a result.
Good to know Norwegian women know a creep when they see one.
The father in the book Treasure Island (of which this is a remake) died. The mother here was trying to make it as a widow.
I remember seeing the trailers for this as a kid and not thinking much of it, but then I heard it was based on the classic Treasure Island, which I was a fan of, so had to see it and quite loved it.
Have you ever seen Firefly great space cowboy series
Speaking of space cowboy, he should see Cowboy Bebop too (the original anime, not the live-action remake)