Metal Drum VST Shootout - 1 drum beat vs. 8 Drum Plugins

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  • @SimonSkipper
    @SimonSkipper  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Check out my other reviews for drum VSTs!
    The best 9 free drum plugins: th-cam.com/video/Y6C_HTI5iiM/w-d-xo.html
    Red Pack Drums: th-cam.com/video/28ZhSfqNx1o/w-d-xo.html

  • @martinmcwatters3974
    @martinmcwatters3974 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +90

    For anyone wondering, Krimh Drums by Bogren Digital actually has a free version. It has no time limit, and it comes with some great drum sounds and MIDI packs.

    • @SimonSkipper
      @SimonSkipper  หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Check out my review here: th-cam.com/video/Y6C_HTI5iiM/w-d-xo.html

  • @sunnyschramm9650
    @sunnyschramm9650 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    gojira mixwave is my favorite. directly in the face an perfectly mixed already out of the box.

  • @ThorJeppesen
    @ThorJeppesen ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Great job! Loved this comparison. I have EZ2, Mario D, ML Drums... These type of comparison videos help a lot, for people to figure out if getting other drum libraries is going to be helpful or not. Thanks for making this awesome video. My favorite here was the Toontrack Death EZX. 🙌🏻🔥🥁

  • @chopshop777
    @chopshop777 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Death EZX and EZDrummer 3 the best for me. specially ez drummer 3 by a mile. thanks for the video very helpful. cheers.

  • @Returnality
    @Returnality ปีที่แล้ว +32

    Those Mix Wave Duplanter drums sound incredible! Way more crisp and full sounding than anything else here imo.

    • @SimonSkipper
      @SimonSkipper  ปีที่แล้ว +13

      I love the shells - I think they came out the best. I'm a little disappointed with the cymbals though, they always sounded thin when I have it in a mix - might be me though!

    • @audiomixing7582
      @audiomixing7582 ปีที่แล้ว

      I have that one, it might be my favorite drum sample pack ever! So easy to get working in a mix

    • @dougb3854
      @dougb3854 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@SimonSkipper Dont have many velocity layers

    • @Harrysound
      @Harrysound ปีที่แล้ว

      yeah I can kinda hear the lack of velocity. it's a big shame because it sounds really incredible. that sure might be the greatest sound ever. might be worth it just to get that to mix in to other libraries.@@dougb3854

    • @ChristianSandviknes
      @ChristianSandviknes 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@SimonSkipper I agree, the drums are amazing, but cymbals weren't

  • @Burbah
    @Burbah 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    I'm surprised to hear how well EZDrummer3 fools my ears. Sounds like an actual drummer.

  • @marcpeiron_studio
    @marcpeiron_studio 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    Clearly Death EZX is the best for me. Just adding some kick and snare samples from Gojira (like you do in the end) you have an incredible drum sound.

    • @SimonSkipper
      @SimonSkipper  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I agree. On one of my mixes ive used Death EZX and blended kick and snare from Gojira

  • @jtwidmer
    @jtwidmer 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Man, ML Drums is honestly really quite good. Not even just for the money but just good.

    • @jeanpitre5789
      @jeanpitre5789 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      It's even better with the add-ons. I have them all and it's my go-to even over SSD and EZD

    • @jtwidmer
      @jtwidmer 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@jeanpitre5789 I have the essentials add on. I’m thinking about doing Luxe for all the snares!

    • @Ludo_A
      @Ludo_A 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I agree. And their latest 'Dwell' library is outstanding.

  • @kirillstolerov6899
    @kirillstolerov6899 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    ML and EZ top! I also love cymbals and snare from Addictive Drums

  • @zax3
    @zax3 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Man bogren sounds so clear

  • @stiman1
    @stiman1 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    This is very eye opening. I've bought a lot of EZDrummer products, and the Death Metal kit is definitely one if the best. And yet, I go back and forth between the Death Metal EZX and the Mixwave part and it's just so good. I'm still constantly looking for better drum sounds by mixing and editing EZDrummer, but now I think that maybe they just don't have the punch that these other ones have right out of the box.
    If it wasn't for Kontakt, I would own some GGD and this MIxwave plugin.

  • @Somulo
    @Somulo 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    best video without bull thanks

    • @SimonSkipper
      @SimonSkipper  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Glad you liked it!

  • @kaboomproduct
    @kaboomproduct 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    i usually use perfect drums or ez drummer, but ngl I really like the sound of the kick and snare in gojira, although everything else in gojira sounds alright

  • @thecasiorobinson
    @thecasiorobinson 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Some cool additions could be GGD Modern & Massive or GGD P5 Matt Halpern Pack, and Perfect Drums by Naughty Seal Audio

    • @SimonSkipper
      @SimonSkipper  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      New video coming soon actually. Stay tuned

    • @thecasiorobinson
      @thecasiorobinson 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@SimonSkipper Damn okay! I'll stay tuned!

  • @CyrilVincentMusic
    @CyrilVincentMusic 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    You totally should try Get Good Drums kits : Invasion, Brutal, Metal, Architects, and more... I'm using VST drums since years (decades ?), and those are definitely my favorites.

    • @justin1603
      @justin1603 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yeah they are great
      But try out mixwave drums
      Ggd are great but compared to mixwavr....anothrr level ..

    • @Etchedinbone
      @Etchedinbone หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@justin1603 Mixwave sounds great for the most part but couple things I absolutely do not like is the velocity and cymbals. Mixwave velocity ranges are terrible. Very robotic IMO. And thats a deal breaker for me. GGD velocities are far better. The Mixwave Gojira cymbals sound terrible. But that kick and snare sounds great.

  • @KnapfordMaster98
    @KnapfordMaster98 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Not my type of music but the Mario Duplantier sounds nuts. Not wild about the cymbals though. Krimh Drums is pretty great, even the free kit goes a long way.

  • @mattvdh
    @mattvdh 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    very good demo

  • @JohnPaulGiancarlo
    @JohnPaulGiancarlo ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Thank you, great comparison video, to me mixwave and krim drums by brogen digital are the ones that sound better out of the box! Clearly any of these can sound great with proper compression, eq etc…

    • @SimonSkipper
      @SimonSkipper  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes, I consider both of those plugins ready to go in a mix.

  • @prod_adrian
    @prod_adrian 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Krimh and Death EZX were by far the most realistic!!
    You need an updated version with Drums Against Humanity (Inferno from Behemoth) by Ugritone :) (They have a sale right now, its only 20 bucks and amazing!!)

  • @buttery6228
    @buttery6228 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Gojira sounds sick

  • @silveirajr__9318
    @silveirajr__9318 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    1:05 parece muito o mike portnoy tocando, ainda mais nas viradas pqp

  • @combyjames
    @combyjames 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    idk... SSD5.5 sounded the most natural (imo) they're all usable.. MAN, how far these samples and humanizing has come ...

    • @Veridi
      @Veridi 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      The free version is probably the best free drum library we have today

  • @Sgem-j
    @Sgem-j 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    toontrack sounds just like real

  • @ImotekhtheStormlord-tx2it
    @ImotekhtheStormlord-tx2it 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    EZdrummer has so many good sounds...

  • @brickblock369
    @brickblock369 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    To be brutally honest, Modo Drum can be configured better than what this video has in order to give a hard metal feel, from what I have listened to in other demo videos.

    • @SimonSkipper
      @SimonSkipper  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yep, I think I accidently did them dirty by not opening a preset.

  • @conjureconquercreate909
    @conjureconquercreate909 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Toontracks all day everyday 🤘🔥🖤

    • @justin1603
      @justin1603 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Toonteack was my fav drum company and still is one of my fabs
      But mixwave released some amazong drum libaries .

  • @ghoulofsorg
    @ghoulofsorg ปีที่แล้ว +6

    krims or toontrack death is goated

  • @JaFoste_Studio
    @JaFoste_Studio ปีที่แล้ว +23

    Modo Drum has such great technology behind it...and it sounds terrible

    • @justaamateur6533
      @justaamateur6533 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Glad to know im not the only one thought those drums sounded kinda bad (especially for the price lol)

    • @CarloNassar
      @CarloNassar 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Have you tried mixing it with the multi-output option? You'll probably get a lot of opportunities that way.

    • @MaximusAdonicus
      @MaximusAdonicus 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@justaamateur6533 Well, for the price of free they sound "okay" for some genre I suppose, but the paid version has more sets (like the Metal one), which most likely sounds a lot better/more suitable.

    • @EdBMetal
      @EdBMetal 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      I have the paid version which unlocks the actual metal drumkits. I use a customized version of the Djentleman kit which sounds absolutely brutal and metal AF. The demonstrated and FREE studio kit is not all that suitable for metal at all imo, so not really a fair comparison when put against the paid metal kits from EZ Drummer etc.

    • @justin1603
      @justin1603 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yap...they sounx incredible bad...couldnt belive it vack then

  • @ELECTRICSCARS
    @ELECTRICSCARS 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Mix Wave 🙌

  • @monicabrown7640
    @monicabrown7640 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    how do those first drums sound so good...they are absolutely filthy. i mean the drums have muck and mud on them.

    • @SimonSkipper
      @SimonSkipper  ปีที่แล้ว +13

      I forgot to clean them before recording the video. Oops!

  • @kronbakenterprises
    @kronbakenterprises 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I actually like logic producer kits though it’s not among these .. the cymbals sound more natural to me..

  • @Strielok1988
    @Strielok1988 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The first preset sounds INCREDIBLE! Is it really not mixed, default "stock" sound?

    • @SimonSkipper
      @SimonSkipper  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Literally opening each plugin and the recorded

  • @justin1603
    @justin1603 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Mixwave have another concept
    But when it comes to great and modern soundin rock & metal drums they are the best sounding vst drums so far...
    And i love superiir drummer...
    But their latest release is amazing plus the mario, jay and also mike drums are simplx great.

  • @calvinlooi4500
    @calvinlooi4500 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Think you should have included Addictive Drums 2

    • @SimonSkipper
      @SimonSkipper  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Just made a new video of free plugins that has Addictive Drums 2

  • @RomanChugz
    @RomanChugz ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thank you so much for doing this! What's your favorite for the sound and also the general features?

    • @SimonSkipper
      @SimonSkipper  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I think EzDrumer Death EZX is my favourite but Borgren Krimh drums has the best features.

    • @RomanChugz
      @RomanChugz ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @SimonSkipper just out of curiosity, which features you like so much?

    • @SimonSkipper
      @SimonSkipper  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @flprmn9448 but...for songwriting then Toontrack is the best. The new tap 2 find and bandmate features are unparalleled. Also if you buy a few MIDI packs you are unstoppable!

  • @IntheDAW
    @IntheDAW ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I wonder if ezx death is the ez drummer version of the death and darkness library's death portion. Because it sounded amazing. The one after was horrible. And ssd 5 kinda sounded super fake

    • @neverender2308
      @neverender2308 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It’s the death part of D&D sdx. Dark Matter EZX is the darkness one.

    • @MaximusAdonicus
      @MaximusAdonicus 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      SSD basically has ZERO processing in it, which is why it sounds so bland. Wouldn't call it fake though, they aimed for a natural sounding set (like Modo). EZX etc. have a SHITTON of processing, they are basically mix ready, which is why they sound so great and punchy!

  • @charles-qc2fr
    @charles-qc2fr 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    They all sound good to me, although different kits nail things better than others like ghost notes, blast, rooms, cymbals, kick...if I were doing pro or semi pro I'd be cherry picking from different vsti's.

    • @SimonSkipper
      @SimonSkipper  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Check out the end where I select my favourites!

  • @davidvierabarreras
    @davidvierabarreras ปีที่แล้ว +2

    ML Drums is the best, but of course, you did the test with the FREE version... The paid version is more powerful, that for not talking about the cheap and excellent expansions! Death EZX and Khrimh Drums also sounds good, it depends...

  • @occultrock
    @occultrock 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    BFD3 is really good.

  • @DEADLINETV
    @DEADLINETV ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Clever combo of the two kits at the end! Well done!. But it's a strange comparison IMO, since EZD2 and 3 have great dedicated metal presets, yet you chose very generic presets (or left them at their default preset). For me SD3 Death and all those Mark Lewis presets are winners. That SDX is a great one!

    • @SimonSkipper
      @SimonSkipper  ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Thank you! Sorry not enough time to go through every preset. I felt opening on the default mode was fair.

    • @DEADLINETV
      @DEADLINETV ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@SimonSkipper Sure, I get that.

  • @jcalzada74
    @jcalzada74 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Manda II drums has been doing the job for me free

    • @SimonSkipper
      @SimonSkipper  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thanks for the tipoff!

    • @jcalzada74
      @jcalzada74 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@SimonSkipper MTPOWERdrumkit2

  • @kostas_mexis
    @kostas_mexis 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    How did you mix the drum kits together in the end??

    • @SimonSkipper
      @SimonSkipper  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I use FL studio and I pasted my MIDI score in all the piano rolls and removed what I didn't want.

    • @DigitalDistortedGuitars
      @DigitalDistortedGuitars 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Did you somehow put diffrent kits to one room?!? O.o woow how?!

  • @mattelder4269
    @mattelder4269 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Sounds great! What preset was used on krimh?

    • @SimonSkipper
      @SimonSkipper  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That was the default preset "El Natural". I really like the "Jens Mumblepants" preset too.

    • @mattelder4269
      @mattelder4269 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@SimonSkipper that sounds absolutely killer. My fav for sure

  • @jeanpitre5789
    @jeanpitre5789 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    It'd sound better if you didn't use the default settings for each plugin as plugins like ML drums dound incredible especially with the extended kit but the default settings sounds trash because its not supposed to conform to a genre but be in the middle of most genres for easy tinkering.

    • @SimonSkipper
      @SimonSkipper  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      My thought was to show what it sounds like as soon as you open it up. Some of the plugins are ready to go, which is great for beginners, and some need more sculpting, which is great for mixers.

    • @jeanpitre5789
      @jeanpitre5789 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @SimonSkipper I still don't think that's a great metric because what sounds good when you open it up is entirely dependent on the musical context. In the context of hard rock and metal the plug-ins designed specifically for those genres will sound good out the box because that's all they were designed for. For SOME of the plug-ins, like SSD5 and ML Drums., they are designed to be used in a multitude of genres, from rock to R&B and funk, even country. The super tight and compressed sound of metal drums is NOT what it sounds like out the box and that's not because it's a bad plug-in, but because their default settings doesn't assume a genre like some of the other plug-ins do.they have presets for those genres, which take a single click in the presets drop down list, which then showcase what they sound like in the context you are presenting, which is hard rock/metal.

    • @SimonSkipper
      @SimonSkipper  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@jeanpitre5789 🤷‍♂

    • @Eric-dd8bk
      @Eric-dd8bk 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​@@jeanpitre5789
      And therefore, showing how a plugin sounds right atta the gate with no processing is the best way to go about it, cuz if a drum plugin sounds heavily edited atta the gate, then it's easy to say they aren't meant to be versatile.
      Chill.

  • @brennencopeland840
    @brennencopeland840 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    How did you combine the samples in the last example? kits sound great!

    • @SimonSkipper
      @SimonSkipper  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Thanks. I just copied the MIDI on all the different tracks and then muted what I didn't want to hear.

  • @leongrinberg8758
    @leongrinberg8758 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    What about made of metal ezx? It's great too)

    • @SimonSkipper
      @SimonSkipper  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I think I was leaning on Toontrack too much already! Maybe I'll do a decicated EzDrummer video.

  • @bobrossthetruegodv2
    @bobrossthetruegodv2 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    What kind of software did u use to both make the midi, program it, do it with different vst's, and record it?

    • @SimonSkipper
      @SimonSkipper  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The MIDI is a combination of different Toontrack packs with some edits made by me.

  • @stiman1
    @stiman1 ปีที่แล้ว

    Picking default kits for EZD2 and EZD3 was silly. They literaly have presets called "Metal" and "prog" etc...

  • @jimsgarage4937
    @jimsgarage4937 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The Mario Duplantier is good but the toms feel dead. Death metal is the cleanest by far

    • @stevedendera
      @stevedendera 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Single floor as well so I feel like it makes me lose interest almost straight away. A shame as you're right, it does sound pretty good

    • @SimonSkipper
      @SimonSkipper  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I think with some extra EQ, compression and reverb you could fix that

  • @Harrysound
    @Harrysound 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Is there anything better than Mario’s snare

    • @SimonSkipper
      @SimonSkipper  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      *Chef's kiss*

  • @Henrychamber-r8w
    @Henrychamber-r8w 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I want to know which one is the best for use with a roland vad305 kit and a lot lot of them dont work well at all with digital drums

    • @SimonSkipper
      @SimonSkipper  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I found ezdrummer and krimh drums easiest for mapping MIDI. They come with a Roland preset, too. Hope that helps.

  • @GAXILLICBEATS
    @GAXILLICBEATS ปีที่แล้ว +5

    ModoDrum 💀💀💀

    • @SimonSkipper
      @SimonSkipper  29 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I think I did it dirty accidently. Check out my new video - it sounds much better!
      th-cam.com/video/Y6C_HTI5iiM/w-d-xo.html

  • @roybuis7646
    @roybuis7646 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Mario Duplantier sounds best to me

  • @MannyMo_
    @MannyMo_ 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Get good drums takes the crown

    • @SimonSkipper
      @SimonSkipper  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Wish I had the money to review them!

    • @MannyMo_
      @MannyMo_ 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@SimonSkipper I just uploaded a new single, and I used the GGD PV kit. I’d really appreciate you if you checked it out bro!

  • @MiguelAngelPerezRodriguez09
    @MiguelAngelPerezRodriguez09 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    i use metal machine and its perfect

    • @SimonSkipper
      @SimonSkipper  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I have that one too and love it! No ride edge though :(

  • @hbrmetal
    @hbrmetal 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    May God bless you who stopped at this comment and your whole family, may you prosper in all areas

  • @MattosVitorThrasher
    @MattosVitorThrasher 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    So glad i got this all cracked on my pc lol, who tf would pay 300$ on this

  • @LarryDavis-r7j
    @LarryDavis-r7j 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

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  • @ross_jones_music
    @ross_jones_music ปีที่แล้ว +5

    This is such a fallacious comparison.
    Some of these plugins have processing on them, some of them are completely raw, some of them are mix ready, some are ready to be implemented in a mix.
    Each of these plugins have their own pros and cons and none of the pros or cons are the way they sound, because they can all equally sound amazing.
    I also don't understand the choices of plugins. Who is going to use EZD2 these days? They don't even sell it anymore?
    Where is superior drummer 3 and get good drums? You know, the drum companies primarily focused on metal and rock?

    • @SimonSkipper
      @SimonSkipper  ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Hi, sorry you found the video fallacious. As I stated, I've opened the plugins in their default state so the watcher could decide how much extra processing is needed.
      Also, the truth is I ran out of money for plugins but wanted to reach 8 drum libraries. If you would like to see SSD3 and GGD drums then a $920AUD donation would cover it and I could make other video. A donation link is below! Cheers
      www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=XAZYAUWZK9J8Q

    • @tony_kun
      @tony_kun ปีที่แล้ว +3

      "Who is going to use EZD2 these days?"
      Toontrack sells the EzD2 core library as an expansion if you didn't know, and it still sounds very good

    • @ross_jones_music
      @ross_jones_music ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@tony_kun I didn't say it's not good, but you can either pay for the EZD2 library or spend your money on EZD3, which is significantly better sampled. And if not, they can go for the other 30+ expansions, all of which beat the core library easily.

    • @audiomixing7582
      @audiomixing7582 ปีที่แล้ว

      also they release EZdrummer 3 which a lot of people like for the Bandmate feature @@tony_kun

    • @audiomixing7582
      @audiomixing7582 ปีที่แล้ว

      there's actually quite a bit of merit to playing them all raw. People who are just getting into mixing or just want a quick decent sound for band demos want to know which kit has the best sound right out of the gate. @@ross_jones_music

  • @FwwPlayer
    @FwwPlayer 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    ez2 its so bad