isnt the honours degree basically an extra degree, though, instead of being a grades thing? he did that added one year honours degree in school. i think he mentions it in one of the videos (what it's really like studying music in university, i reckon) an honours degree for one year which he doesnt recommend lmao
Emerson yeah, but it's not the same as graduated with honours that they originally mean. just to clarify things. lmao brett is definitely, definitely talented. i love it when they drop little nuggets of info like this, slowly creating a picture of their younger years. i reckon brett didn't audition because he already knew his teacher through entering competitions as a kid, which shows he was good enough to join competitions and win. 🥰
@@owdy3973 to make both of you feel better, with regards to the ABRSM, post grade 8 Diploma 1--> equivalent to 1st year undergrad Diploma 2--> equivalent to final year undergrad Diploma 3--> equivalent to masters level
@@owdy3973 and also in the UK anyways music at uni is different than at conservatoire, for uni you normally need fairly good grades and at least grade 8 in your first study (although there are some places that you only need grade 7) Conservatoire is audition based
What did most of your friends end up doing after graduation? Brett: One became a TH-camr. (Laughs at Eddy) Editor-San: *SO DID U* Editor-San wants freedom from the basement!
Nah. Editor-san's freedom from Eddy's basement won't be worth it in this current situation. I agree that Editor-san must be kept locked so that we can watch twoset videos every night :v Jk. Editor-san, I love you no matter what, even though I don't even know your face ...
Might consider retaking my instrument after hearing this quote. When you've reached rock bottom, you can't go anywhere but either up or stay the same. Go for it!
No one is too old to start learning music, even aiming for being a professional musician. I've started playing violin after I graduated from uni (in a completely different field). After ten years now I play professionally in an orchestra. I really surprised my teacher when I told him I passed the audition. I always ask myself how far I can go as a violinist but instead of answering myself I opt for practicing and pushing myself to getting better. I know I've started quite late which become my disadvantage so I have to work harder. When I am in the orchestra where most people have music degrees and more experience than me (yeah play a lotttt better than me) I admit that it's stressful to keep up with them. But I will never give up. I'm lucky that my teacher understands my and always supports me. He always asks if I have any problems regarding the pieces I have to play so he can help me. I'm grateful for my friend who always patient with me and even teach me the part I'm struggling with without judging me. I know I might not be able to become a soloist, but I'll keep practicing. For you guys out there who still question yourself, I'd say go for it. Keeping (smartly) practicing. Find a good teacher. It's not easy just PRACTICE and watch Twoset to brighten up your day when you feel down. Good luck.
Thank you for sharing! Would you tell a bit your story, the sequence of pieces you've studied, how you practice... thank you in advance. If you don't have time, or don't want to, it's ok, of course. Good luck!
I really admire you because it is very hard to do what you do. You must be really talented, apart from your practising 40 hours a day. Not a lot of people will achieve that, professionally playing in an orchestra when you started that late. I certainly won't, because I started at 59 and that really is too late for a professional carreer, although I am practising passionately and that really pays of, also at my age. I am 62 now.
Its tricky.... i mean i think that the best thing you can do its to always be learning and perfecting your craft, if you dont have the opportunity or the circumnstances to get a degree there are still many other ways to gain knowledge (specially now with internet and technology, information its easier to get), cause at the end of the day there are soooo many factors in our society, that having a degree doesnt mean you'll have a «success», «finance» stability (if that makes sense) , its not a warranty. I went to music school, and i met the most talented people, the got their degree, some pursued their classical career as performers, teachers, etc, some decided to change their life path and stopped playing, some didnt get their degree to pursue a non-classical music career and they're thriving and happy, some graduated but had to work in different areas than music because they couldnt find a job position and they need to support themselves. Its all about being honest with yourself and do the best you can with what you' ve got. I hope my bit of experience helps you a little. :)
Ikr, ever since I started watching em I've always wondered how some of these conservatories work since my university has one and this is a nice quick video they made
I'm 17 and struggling with grade 5. Not even done the second piece and I've been on it for 2 years, and gradually forgetting the first piece because I can't bring myself to practice. Thanks a lot ABRSM, for destroying my love for piano. (Music is supposed to be my future job too by the way, yeah I can't wait to see how successful I'll be)
*For those of you interested in the answers from someone who goes to a public university for music and not a conservatory* Q: General classes and music classes? A: Yes you have to do both, you need a certain amount of gen ed classes to graduate Q: Perform in front of others as a non performance major? A: Yes, as far as I know most majors except for composition, still have to do a performance jury and usually you play in front of your studio as well. (Composition does their own thing tho) Q: What level of musician do you have to be to get into? A: It really does depend on the college. Some universities are less competitive and have a high acceptance rate but for example conservatories you need to be the best of the best. It also depends on the studio, for example at my school the flute studio only accepts a few people but the voice studio accepts almost everyone. Q: Did you always agree with your teacher? A: Personally, both me and my professor are trying to figure out the best way to teach me as time goes on. And if something didn't work (usually he would notice) or else I would say this doesn't help. So yes and no. Q: How many hours do you practice? A: Usually performance majors practice more, 3-5 hours. And education majors practice less, 1-3. It all kinda depends on what your goal is, are you trying to be the best musician on your instrument ever or are you just using the knowledge from your instrument to relate to whatever your focus is? Q: Audition process? A: Same thing that they say- the process also varies from school to school Q: Deal with comparing yourself to others? A: I struggled with this a lot my first year and it held me back. I've learn it works best to compare yourself not to others but to yourself...so record yourself every month and on the days that you're feeling down about your playing, play the recording from a year ago and hear how much improvement you've made. We're all on our own journey, people just start from different points. Q: Injuries during school? A: Personally no. But Ive known people who have to drop out because of carpal tunnel or TMJ and never being able to play again. If it hurts DO NOT keep pushing!!! It's not worth it. (The next two questions I would have said the same thing) Q: Networking during school? A: I cant say much for performance majors,but networking as an education is so important. College is a great time to attend conferences, workshops, anything you can find. Also your college most likely will have organizations you can join to make connections (music geek orgs, NAFME, arts associations etc). And just be a friendly person! The best way to get a music job is when your friend recommends you. Q: Was it competitive? A: Depends on the school and studio. Personally I was looking for a school that is more collaborative than competitive because I do not work well in competitive environments. Some people need that drive, others don't. Typically conservatories are very competitive tho. Q: What opportunities from college? A: Liked they said, performance opportunities but also lots of teaching opportunities- teaching lessons, band camps, my college holds a honor band for local schools so I taught for that. And lots of opportunities for professional development and networking. Q: Essential to have a music degree? A: Depends on the job. For performing, not necessarily but it definitely helps. For education, depends if you're just a side staff member (then no) or if you want to be fully employed (then yes). Q: How expensive is it? A: Just like any college, depends if you're out of state or in state. Great thing about music is their are lots of scholarship opportunities- talent based ones, sponsorships, grade based ones etc. Hope this helped anyone that was curious!
@@ITSMERlVER I'd say based on their last answer, they're from the U.S. As another American music college student, I'd say I'd agree with most, if not all, of these answers. For the audition process, I've had to audition for 2 different music colleges, though they're both in the same state, so maybe that's something to consider. Both required me to perform no less than a certain time-length depending on what major I'm looking into, as well as sight-reading.
When Two set posts a new video: Me: was doing homework Also me: WATCH THE VIDEO Brain: Homework Me: no My piano: PRACTICE Hand: To late clicked the video Brain: Noooo Piano: NOOOOO
I'm 22, I study violin since I was 12, but never took it seriously. I had some bad teachers that didn't gave me motivation, and I ended up hating the instrument. Now I am about to get a degree in astronomy. Two years ago I discovered this channel, and entered the music university last year. I promise I will do the best I can. Thank you guys.
brett : to be fair we're also playing at okay level, our playing was good enough eddy : it's not like we suck.. i mean we suck but we yea- brett : we didn't suck suck eddy : * proceed to suck his drink * i like how they're flexing but not flexing
I've been listening to this almost daily. I used to wonder what was the noise at the beginning of the second movement, then Twoset told the story of the shoulder rest drop 😂
For those who are interested, there is also a recording of him playing Tchaikovsky Violin Concerto with a Brisbane-based ensemble back in 2012. www.orchestracordaspiritus.com/page20.html
“To get into a really good college...” “There’s three options: you have to be either really good, really rich, or have really good connection.” OR YOU COULD BE LING LING
12:28 For those who don't know, Sibelius started playing the violin when he was 15!! It's never too late! So I compared myself to him. I am 14 and so I though it's too late to start but when I heard Sibelius started at 15 yrs I though I can start it that "late" too. 🤷🏻♀️
Hello, I'm a music educator and I started to play and learn music at 15 and later I graduated a Conservatory. It is not impossible! Good luck and work hard!
You can't be 14 years old and already think it's too late in your life to achieve something, that's mind bogglingly ridiculous. You have barely existed in this world at this point, it's like you just started lol.
you definitely do! 23 might seem late but you could definitely become a professional musician if you practice! just work hard and don’t give up ❤️ i know that seems super bland but it’s true
I already earned a non-music college degree before I entered conservatory. I was 27 then. The only pressure I had was to catch up with techniques which could have been in place had I studied formally at a younger age. Since I'm a voice major, I am pushed to my limits by my teacher to realize that I have to work harder and understand my body at a quicker pace so I can produce a decent tone that is at par with my age. Bottomline, if you wish to study any field and be good at it, treat it like your life depends on it, regardless of your age. It's a commitment. And sooner or later, you have to be good at it in order to sell yourself confidently because it's a competition out there. At the end of the day, network fails if people won't buy you. So, PRACTICE, PRACTICE, PRACTICE!!!
I’m 22 and getting back into the violin again. I’d love to join a community orchestra but sadly where I live those opportunities are only for k-12 and not adults
1:00 general studies music 1:40 performance opps 3:37 grade 4:15 teachers, understand 5:25 4/5 hrs 6:10 X stress practice 7:00 connections 😳 7:20 self esteem, let gooo 7:44 injuries; STRETCH 8:25 tests 9:30 friends, not business cards 10:48 competitiveness, good spirit, be ur best self 11:50 masterclasses 😲 12:10 degree 🔥 12:30 later studying professionally
Ok sometimes if i start practicing 1 song that's really technical or has high notes I die for the rest so it's just 1 hour of the crappiest trumpet playing you've ever heard :(
Angela Dominique but they were playing in orchestras before they did TH-cam. Idk how that would pan out because so many people get jaded in that life. I feel blessed that they’re doing TH-cam and letting more people know about classical music and inspiring young people who might also become great musicians one day.
I was 38 years old, when I started to play the sax... it's never to late to pursuit your dreams... 3 years into it, not at a professional level, I'm enjoying playing pieces from Rachmaninoff or Shostakovich. Greetings from Portugal
"Destroy your self-esteem, you have no more self-esteem, you just go for it... You're like, who the hell cares? Let's go." is legit the most motivational thing I have heard in my entire life and I'm thinking of making it my alarm ringtone.
Hey a college (not music) professor here: general education is important because it allows you to understand the world. If you have no background on things like history and humanities, it'd be hard to understand where the composers were coming from. If you don't have some foundations in humanities, it'd be hard to interpret the music. I remember one of your videos explaining how knowing that Tchaikovsky could not be openly gay makes interpreting his music much more intimate - that's what general education classes are supposed to teach. Not that you can't know this if you never had a gen ed class, but gen ed classes make these things more accessible.
This, however, belongs in high school. By the time one is an adult and enters conservatory/uni/varsity it might be a bonus but (hopefully) not required. One should have a basic understanding of the world at that stage.
@@AB-mz3yb I study Korean studies and we HAVE to do two semesters of extracurriculars (the points add up to two semesters, you can do them whenever you want), to earn more knowledge outside of our major. They recommend learning about the other East Asian countries because that would be helpful for us, but you can do whatever you want. I could literally do Indian studies for two semesters and then graduate in Korean studies with that. I also think that shouldn’t be compulsory though, I can go more in depth into something else on my own if I think it would benefit me, I’m a grown up and I came here to study Korean, not something else.
Outside of the US this is done in Highschool. Not university. The rest of the world finishes the US Highschool curriculum at 16, and then for two years we study the equivalent of US college “Gen Eds” until 18. This is why your degree programs are longer, and 4 years not 3.
@@thisismyname6715 It's do interesting(!) each country has their own system of education. In Canada, you graduate from high school...grade 12.....at 17/18 yrs. In grade 11-12, if you know the direction you'd like to go (medicine, music, languages, humanities, etc) and start taking a few courses to get you started on your way (and depending what your high school offers.) The typical student graduates from grade 12 (18 yrs) in June and goes straight into a 4 year undergrad
I started music college at an age that old school musicians may consider "late", I entered at 26. Now I've been playing the flute since I was 10 but for many reasons mostly social pressure and stupid stigmas to study a "real career" I was forced to study a finances degree, now I must admit that my early 20's were hellish and quite a darn waste of time if you ask me, I never stopped playing the flute though but I always had poor performance in finances despite me understanding the subjects faster but I always felt like I was wasting myself here and it was so painful because I consistently get a higher than average IQ in tests, around 135-140, yet I always had quite average grades, my interest was just not there at all despite how much I lied to myself, so I struggled quite a lot until I eventually blew up and decided that I was not going to be denied of my goal to be a professional musician. That being said, I started to look for good instrument teachers and I eventually met one of the best in my country and had a talk with him, after that he listened to my playing and he told me I had quite a lot of potential so he took me in and prepared me to enter one of the best music colleges in my country and... surprise surprise, I entered with the highest score of my generation in my instrument. Now after quite some time I also returned to finish my finances degree but I'm happy studying music and quite good progress. Now well.. we'll see what the future has in for me but now I think I have found a balance but I gotta say that I learnt that over years and years of continuous struggle and messing up stuff.
Always fun when I manned the university booth at school information days.... Them: "I want to study music...", Me: That's great, what AMEB/ABRSM grade are you? Them: "Ummm what are they?" Me: What instrument do you play? Them: "Oh I just sing/play guitar".... Me: uh huh, well you need grade 5 certificat and do an audition to be considered. Them: "Oh, I thought I would learn how to read notes and stuff" Me: 🤦♀️ I had this conversation so many times with slight variations that I almost cried tears of relief when a student answered "Oh I have grade 8 ABRSM and I play Clarinet".
To be honest, before watching Twoset, that's what I thought yall would do as well. Only recently do I know (and did a lil research on music unis in my own country to confirm what they said) that you need to be at quite a high level to study music in uni.
that's why Mendeley exists guys, otherwise referencing with APA style is gonna be real painful if you make a long research paper 😂 glad those academic-writing days have passed lol
Top tip: always practice in a room with bad acoustics or multiple different rooms because the acoustics in an audition etc may not be as good as your used to and it quickly becomes apparent if you haven’t got good acoustics covering bad tone etc.
“Competitiveness should be a spirit where you just want to be the best you can.” Thank you for pointing that out!! I hope music universities/colleges continue to encourage students with this mindset!
I am eleven years old and I am about to do the highest grade possible for violin. I’ve been preparing for about 2 months and I know, with Twoset existing, I have a high standard to live up too. I’ve been subscribed since I was eight. Twoset, you inspired me and thank you so much!
7:30 "destroy your self-esteem, you have no more slef-esteem, you just go for it" rather than trying to try to build up a self-esteem, just let go, have no self-esteem" "self-esteem is just is" "the ego is gone" and suddenly, twosetviolin start teaching The Tao. xD
I’m at a mid-sized state university in the US that has a music program specialized in education. Our department is small, and we’re mostly focused on band/wind instruments, percussion, and voice. Here are a few answers that are slightly different: • We have to perform for two workshops per semester: one a few weeks in, and one about halfway in • More serious solo performances are determined and separated by level. Level is determined by your performance at juries. The lower the level, the more time you have to prepare your pieces. • Juries are held twice a semester. • Halfway in, instrumentalists are tested on scales and etudes (also determined by level), and singers are to give a oral presentations to the other voice professors about their foreign language songs, including the translations and how the music conveys the message of the lyrics. • End of semester juries are performances for the faculty panel. You must perform at least two pieces of repertoire. You have three options: pass, fail, or promote. Everyone starts at level 1 after being accepted at auditions, and there are 4 levels. You can request promotion any time you’d like, but you need your teacher’s permission. The jury will deliberate on your performance when you’ve left the stage (you can’t hear what they say about you, but you can view their paper notes a few days later when they have been filed). The promotion to level 4 is an entire recital performance by yourself, and the preview counts as the jury. You must make level 3 to get an education degree, and level 4 for performance or jazz studies. (It’s really complicated idk) • You can audition during your first semester of freshman year, and there are two options: in the middle of the semester or at the end. You can also audition during your last year of high school (which I did and prefer bc it’s less to worry about). • Practicing is important. I’ve noticed at my school that the standard of productivity relates you your teacher’s expectations more heavily than anything else. I’m a clarinetist, and my teacher has very high standards, which means I’ve learned efficient practice techniques. I practice two hours a day most days, and on sundays I sometimes practice 4-8 hours. There are some studios notorious for low standards and lack of practice ethic (in my school it’s percussion and voice), and many of them take longer to promote or even graduate. Many people here get by on about 1 hour or less per day (which is really sad imo). • We’re a state college so we’re required to take general ed classes like English, basic math, sciences, and seminars. Almost none of them relate to music and I feel like my time is being wasted. • Auditions are low stakes. You need two contrasting pieces and memorized major scales. “Contrasting” is open for interpretation, and could include period/style or tempo and character. I played a slow and fast, one was classical and the other was romantic. • I’ve gotten great connections and multiple jobs through this program. I’m freelancing for different directors and groups, and have steady performances in the summer. I’ve also gotten education experience and jobs (which is my area). • I know a lot of people who didn’t take music seriously until later in high school. I also know people (including myself) who didn’t start on their main instrument until high school. I started on clarinet aged 16, and many of my friends have similar situations. Most of us had prior music experience, for example I already played saxophone and could read music/knew basic theory. A friend of mine was a chorus singer before taking up trumpet at 17 and it became his main (and he was very good). You can start later, but it really helps if you already have prior music knowledge. You can’t wake up one day and just decide to be a music major. It also takes a lot of work and determination. • being a music major has one of the craziest schedules and time commitments of any other major I’ve met. It is also (without exaggeration) one of the most rigorous majors I’ve observed. Because my college is a public college I’ve met many people of different majors who can party all weekend, never study, and take 4-5 classes per semester. Music majors are busy all day long with work, and we load what is essentially a 5 year program into 4 years, meaning we take upwards of 6-7 classes a semester. Just last year alone I performed with 6 different performing ensembles on top of my solo repertoire and academic classes. In order to be successful, you have to spend a lot of time on school stuff, and you have much less time for “fun stuff” (but I think school is kinda fun sometimes). • Concerto performances are rare. They’re only offered to seniors who go above and beyond in the work they put in in their practicing. We only feature concerto soloists once every few years, and they go to people who are the most regimented, hardest workers who learn repertoire proficiently and quickly. I’m the first concerto performer in 4 years, and I’m playing it at a concert in three days (yikes!) • in the US, state colleges are probably the easiest and most affordable way to get a music degree, especially if you’re only looking to teach and not become a professional performer. I still have student loans tho. • comparing yourself to others is a lot easier when you’re not used to the environment or when you’re insecure. The more time spent doing efficient practice methods and doing your absolute best as a player and performer, the less you’ll feel compelled to compare yourself to others. I’m not a technician, but instead of comparing my technical ability to other clarinetists, I simply work harder at it and purposely pick pieces that target technique over my strong suits like tone or phrasing.
hahaha wow i wish twosetviolin existed when i was in high school and piano was a bigger part of my life. i had so much performance anxiety and it was the main thing that made me drop my piano major in college. if i had two ppl telling me “JUST DO IT” and normalize performance anxiety like this, i feel like i wouldve gritted my teeth and just gone through with it. thank you twoset for being so transparent abt the music life!!
Coming from an incoming music education major, depending on the college/conservatory, you'll actually have required performances, or "recitals". You'll also be required to participate in an ensemble that correlates with your instrument (e.g. voice majors participate in choirs) for the vast majority of your time in music school, if not all of it. One music school I auditioned for prided itself in their belief that music education majors should be held to the same standards as music performance majors when it comes to musicianship. Long story short, yes, you will likely have performances even if you're not a performance major, but I guarantee taking every chance you get to perform (within reason of course) will be totally worth it.
I'm studying composition at music University, so I don't care that much about finding a practice room since i can do that at home, but what I spend most of the time doing, is annoying the crap out of ppl that study performance in different instruments, like oboe, violin, trombones, etc. I go cheking in different rooms and ask them if I can can come in and watch them practice, most times they just say no and I leave, but sometimes they let me come in, and with that I learn a lot about how those other instruments I don't play work, i even got already a couple guys that actually tell me in advance where and when they practice and what, so I go there and I even compose short solo pieces for them and try to include tecnics and stuff they are working on at the time, so we manage to both impove, i learn how to compose for those instruments and they get more practice on different things they need, they sometimes tell me to write them things outside their comfort zone to challenge themselves and I always try my best to deliever. I honestly am learning more from this than from my profesors, lol
I’m in the 2020 graduation and I just got accepted to Julliard University( #1 American music arts university) . I was so happy that I almost cooked myself. I will be a ling ling.
@@jn3090 I mean late reply but I know a few ppl in Juilliard who thought the spelling was “julliard” like the op up there, for a few years up until their junior year because the “I” isn’t enunciated at all in the word’s pronunciation lmao. It’s possible.
You're part of the classical music community now. That's best thing about Twoset they revolutionised the snobby and divisive culture associated with classical enthusiasts and made it welcome to all
@@lea2467 You realize it was a joke, right ? Eddy did spend some time in a wheelchair, but the bicycle part in that video was just him making fun of Ben Lee... 😄
It sounds like he didn't take care of himself, and got injured practicing too much without giving his body time to rest. Probably hurt his neck which is extremely scary to think.
This is one of the most serious I've seen Eddy and Brett (Brett and Eddy?) and I enjoyed hearing their heartfelt opinions and how genuine their experience with music school. Must be great guys to share a pint over :)
"There's no more self esteem. The ego is gone" maybe that's why you guys are one of the nicest people i know. I don't say it's good to have no self esteem because you guys are obv very good as musicians and as humans and worthy of all the love and you should never forget that but the big ego can destroy you and your true relationships with people pretty fast. It's good you guys had each other. Solid support system is everything
I came here to listen about professional classical musicians' experience (and for laughs & good vibes) but got a valuable life lesson: "Destroy your self-esteem. " Amazing! How have I never thought of it?! Love you guys! You're absolutely awesome!!
I'm not a musician.. But I had to do flute classes for the first 3 years like when I entered college ( 11 to 18 years). In the video they were like, they practiced 4 to 5 hours and I was like...... My class practiced literally before that particular class. We had to move to the music room for the class, but before that we were all practicing in a normal room... It was fun but nightmare... We were practicing different notes.... You get the thing...
Is it me or the chemistry of their friendship in this video just seems to come afloat so naturally? Like, they just seem so relaxed, comfortable and specially goofy
Yeah, why would an injury that stops him playing for 8 months mean he was in a wheelchair? Unless he injured his neck and and gave him leg weakness or something... I don’t want to pry in his private life, but as a nurse, I’m intrigued!... perhaps he fell off a bike and hurt his wrist, like Ben lee, but also broke his knee!
Time marker 2:00, words of wisdom are shared. "If you have a performance opportunity, I think you should take it. I know it's tricky, you get performance anxiety. But if you want to become a musician to perform, you can't skip that process. So you just do it while you can." - Brett Yang, 06JUN2020
Im so agree with brett's advice just let it go, do it yolo timeee, same with art school when you see so many people making good art and it makes your self esteem down its just idc anymore imma just do my best and submit those freaking project.
Juliard . In the book, 'Life Between the Keys", by The Five Browns. Chapter three talks about the rumors of razor blades between the keys, as well as the competitiveness at Juliard.
@@Bilytkid I don't think I believe the razor blade rumor. They would be sued into bankrupcy when they deliberately forced pianists into a possibility of hurting their precious fingers and ruining their possible careers. They can't take that risk.
@@ankavoskuilen1725 - the rumor was of other students doing it against their rivals, not the professors. But its rather confirmed, the students resorted to other dirty tactics to sabotage someones practice.
At university I was a music major for a little while, I think three semesters (I didn't go to a conservatory). While I enjoyed music very much, I learned there that the expectations of a professional musician weren't things I could physically or emotionally meet (I have scoliosis and horrible performance anxiety! - I was good enough to get into the program, but was always in pain). While I'm disappointed that I had to change my future goals, I'm glad that I learned my limitations at a place where other majors were easily available, and I found two that were much better for me! I guess the point I'm trying to make is that even if you love music and shoot for the moon and fall short, you can still love music and make a life for yourself. Being unable to be a professional performer doesn't lessen the value of your love for the art, and you can always still play for your own enjoyment on your own terms.
Choir, provides skill building sets such as sight reading, using music theory and ear training. Including, learning to listen to the other voices and blend with them, while blending into your section and singing in mixed sectionals. Singing in mixed sectionals really builds your listening and ear training skills, because even with a bass singing on one side and a baritone singing on the other. Including, an alto singing in the next section below you, you still have to be able to blend with everyone and with your section. When I entered a university school of music, years ago. I was required to be able to sing at a level, denoted for a freshman level.
Brett: ‘I winged all the exams’
Also Brett: **Graduated with honours**
Hannah I smell a prodigy. 😂💪🏼
Angela Dominique yesssss
isnt the honours degree basically an extra degree, though, instead of being a grades thing? he did that added one year honours degree in school. i think he mentions it in one of the videos (what it's really like studying music in university, i reckon) an honours degree for one year which he doesnt recommend lmao
kyaaa honours degrees are very competitive to get into though, so it is definitely an achievement over doing 'just' a bachelor degree
Emerson yeah, but it's not the same as graduated with honours that they originally mean. just to clarify things. lmao brett is definitely, definitely talented. i love it when they drop little nuggets of info like this, slowly creating a picture of their younger years. i reckon brett didn't audition because he already knew his teacher through entering competitions as a kid, which shows he was good enough to join competitions and win. 🥰
_"Destroy your self esteem, you just go for it... Who the hell cares?"_
We're TwoSetViolin and this is our MasterClass
this is actually a great quote
@@harrysvu it is
This was def my favorite part of this video
That's some deep Buddhist philosophy
B E S T 😂
title: Music College Graduates Answer Your Questions About Music School
me who has no intention of going to music school: *_interesting_*
Same bruh
Im already in uni and not in music maj 😂 but yea still watch anyway
@@jewelt5975 i can relate😂
Same here.
Me who cant play any instruments
“Interesting”
Twoset: When there were no rooms, we practiced outside
Me: cries in harpist
Cellist: cries in my-endpin-sank-into-the-dirt
Pianist: how should I even do that?
*smirks in vocalist
Cries in *piano*
@@vincentv4785 omg I feel you😂
"If you forget a semicolon, you lose 2 marks."
As a computer scientist, I feel ya there.
Oh I'm having flashbacks. OMFG.
*compiler intensifies*
Oh that hurts
Also more like you lose all the marks because it doesn't even compile
Oh nonono flashbacks
"we both did the equivalent of the highest grade when we were like 12" that subtle flex twoset I see you👀👀
My self-esteem was gone there
@@owdy3973 to make both of you feel better, with regards to the ABRSM, post grade 8
Diploma 1--> equivalent to 1st year undergrad
Diploma 2--> equivalent to final year undergrad
Diploma 3--> equivalent to masters level
That’s the equivalent of Liszt’s etudes or something isn’t it? Maybe I’m wrong can you helppp.
Edit: I mean at piano
@@owdy3973 and also in the UK anyways music at uni is different than at conservatoire, for uni you normally need fairly good grades and at least grade 8 in your first study (although there are some places that you only need grade 7)
Conservatoire is audition based
justanotherpiccplayer so for a general music university being able to play grade 8 pieces would be enough?
So crazy, that they did the highest grade in violin playing possible at the age of 13.
THEY were the real prodigies
IKR I’m 11 and In a symphonic orchestra...The disappointment 😖
I know! I started 6 months ago and I still suck 😭
Now we know they started young and they practiced, why am I feeling proud :')
Janardan Shivashankar that’s true, but hey - I hope you have fun learning the scales. What instrument do you play?
Tea Sokolovska I’m sure your doing great! I’m on my second year and I don’t think I could be any worse 😳
What did most of your friends end up doing after graduation?
Brett: One became a TH-camr. (Laughs at Eddy)
Editor-San: *SO DID U*
Editor-San wants freedom from the basement!
Nah. Editor-san's freedom from Eddy's basement won't be worth it in this current situation. I agree that Editor-san must be kept locked so that we can watch twoset videos every night :v
Jk. Editor-san, I love you no matter what, even though I don't even know your face ...
Ainun Najmah Ah, right! Editor-San must be kept in quarantine! 😂
We stand for quarantined editor san :v
We all love editor-san
Ummm cringe
“Destroy your self-esteem
You have no more self-esteem
You just go for it”
*- Brett Yang, 2020*
For real tho, this is actually helpful
Lmao budda who?
Might consider retaking my instrument after hearing this quote. When you've reached rock bottom, you can't go anywhere but either up or stay the same. Go for it!
I agree
I think this is the sign I'm looking for.
I'm throwing away my degree and switching careers. Hahahaha. 🙈
No jokes though they're actually spot on
No one is too old to start learning music, even aiming for being a professional musician. I've started playing violin after I graduated from uni (in a completely different field). After ten years now I play professionally in an orchestra. I really surprised my teacher when I told him I passed the audition. I always ask myself how far I can go as a violinist but instead of answering myself I opt for practicing and pushing myself to getting better. I know I've started quite late which become my disadvantage so I have to work harder. When I am in the orchestra where most people have music degrees and more experience than me (yeah play a lotttt better than me) I admit that it's stressful to keep up with them. But I will never give up. I'm lucky that my teacher understands my and always supports me. He always asks if I have any problems regarding the pieces I have to play so he can help me. I'm grateful for my friend who always patient with me and even teach me the part I'm struggling with without judging me.
I know I might not be able to become a soloist, but I'll keep practicing. For you guys out there who still question yourself, I'd say go for it. Keeping (smartly) practicing. Find a good teacher. It's not easy just PRACTICE and watch Twoset to brighten up your day when you feel down. Good luck.
These are great words of wisdom. Thank you.
Thank you so much for these words.
This is what I needed the most!
You have motivated me a lot!
Really, thank you so much. And keep up!
Thank you for sharing! Would you tell a bit your story, the sequence of pieces you've studied, how you practice... thank you in advance. If you don't have time, or don't want to, it's ok, of course. Good luck!
This is inspiring!
I really admire you because it is very hard to do what you do. You must be really talented, apart from your practising 40 hours a day.
Not a lot of people will achieve that, professionally playing in an orchestra when you started that late.
I certainly won't, because I started at 59 and that really is too late for a professional carreer, although I am practising passionately and that really pays of, also at my age. I am 62 now.
when twoset uploads every night in asia time zone,
*BRO MY HOMEWORK IS AT RISK*
So accurate😂
Me right now.
I almost went to sleep
It's like, the middle of the day here
@@kamilakowalczyk4878 where u at bro?
All jokes aside this is really important.
yeah, and i really wanted to know their answer to the question regarding the importance of a music degree on today's musical landscape
Its tricky.... i mean i think that the best thing you can do its to always be learning and perfecting your craft, if you dont have the opportunity or the circumnstances to get a degree there are still many other ways to gain knowledge (specially now with internet and technology, information its easier to get), cause at the end of the day there are soooo many factors in our society, that having a degree doesnt mean you'll have a «success», «finance» stability (if that makes sense) , its not a warranty. I went to music school, and i met the most talented people, the got their degree, some pursued their classical career as performers, teachers, etc, some decided to change their life path and stopped playing, some didnt get their degree to pursue a non-classical music career and they're thriving and happy, some graduated but had to work in different areas than music because they couldnt find a job position and they need to support themselves. Its all about being honest with yourself and do the best you can with what you' ve got. I hope my bit of experience helps you a little. :)
Ikr, ever since I started watching em I've always wondered how some of these conservatories work since my university has one and this is a nice quick video they made
Yes
Can you give me some tips? I’m going giving in to grade3 violin
3:34 “we both did the highest grade when we were like 12” (music exams)
*that’s a flex i stan*
I think I am attacked
I feel personally attacked by this but I'm so proud of them XD
I'm 17 and struggling with grade 5. Not even done the second piece and I've been on it for 2 years, and gradually forgetting the first piece because I can't bring myself to practice. Thanks a lot ABRSM, for destroying my love for piano. (Music is supposed to be my future job too by the way, yeah I can't wait to see how successful I'll be)
i'm 12 and i still play vivaldi spring ;-;
can anyone tell me what grade vivaldi spring is ?
twoset in this video: we wE WE WEE WEEE WEEEE WEEEEEE WEEEEEE
me, in tears: friendship goals
*For those of you interested in the answers from someone who goes to a public university for music and not a conservatory*
Q: General classes and music classes?
A: Yes you have to do both, you need a certain amount of gen ed classes to graduate
Q: Perform in front of others as a non performance major?
A: Yes, as far as I know most majors except for composition, still have to do a performance jury and usually you play in front of your studio as well. (Composition does their own thing tho)
Q: What level of musician do you have to be to get into?
A: It really does depend on the college. Some universities are less competitive and have a high acceptance rate but for example conservatories you need to be the best of the best. It also depends on the studio, for example at my school the flute studio only accepts a few people but the voice studio accepts almost everyone.
Q: Did you always agree with your teacher?
A: Personally, both me and my professor are trying to figure out the best way to teach me as time goes on. And if something didn't work (usually he would notice) or else I would say this doesn't help. So yes and no.
Q: How many hours do you practice?
A: Usually performance majors practice more, 3-5 hours. And education majors practice less, 1-3. It all kinda depends on what your goal is, are you trying to be the best musician on your instrument ever or are you just using the knowledge from your instrument to relate to whatever your focus is?
Q: Audition process?
A: Same thing that they say- the process also varies from school to school
Q: Deal with comparing yourself to others?
A: I struggled with this a lot my first year and it held me back. I've learn it works best to compare yourself not to others but to yourself...so record yourself every month and on the days that you're feeling down about your playing, play the recording from a year ago and hear how much improvement you've made. We're all on our own journey, people just start from different points.
Q: Injuries during school?
A: Personally no. But Ive known people who have to drop out because of carpal tunnel or TMJ and never being able to play again. If it hurts DO NOT keep pushing!!! It's not worth it.
(The next two questions I would have said the same thing)
Q: Networking during school?
A: I cant say much for performance majors,but networking as an education is so important. College is a great time to attend conferences, workshops, anything you can find. Also your college most likely will have organizations you can join to make connections (music geek orgs, NAFME, arts associations etc). And just be a friendly person! The best way to get a music job is when your friend recommends you.
Q: Was it competitive?
A: Depends on the school and studio. Personally I was looking for a school that is more collaborative than competitive because I do not work well in competitive environments. Some people need that drive, others don't. Typically conservatories are very competitive tho.
Q: What opportunities from college?
A: Liked they said, performance opportunities but also lots of teaching opportunities- teaching lessons, band camps, my college holds a honor band for local schools so I taught for that. And lots of opportunities for professional development and networking.
Q: Essential to have a music degree?
A: Depends on the job. For performing, not necessarily but it definitely helps. For education, depends if you're just a side staff member (then no) or if you want to be fully employed (then yes).
Q: How expensive is it?
A: Just like any college, depends if you're out of state or in state. Great thing about music is their are lots of scholarship opportunities- talent based ones, sponsorships, grade based ones etc.
Hope this helped anyone that was curious!
This comment is highly underrated.
What country are you from? That’ll help add context as well
Thanks!
Thanks for your effort to write this xd
@@ITSMERlVER I'd say based on their last answer, they're from the U.S. As another American music college student, I'd say I'd agree with most, if not all, of these answers.
For the audition process, I've had to audition for 2 different music colleges, though they're both in the same state, so maybe that's something to consider. Both required me to perform no less than a certain time-length depending on what major I'm looking into, as well as sight-reading.
"Destroy your self esteem and when you have no more self esteem you just go for it."
Such truth
I'm a psychology graduate, why am I even here lol
I dunno, try asking a psychologist :)
Dunno. I haven't started uni yet. I just watch the video to distract me from homework :v
I dunno, and hey, I'm a Maths graduate…😂🤦
Dunno. I'm a GP. I only play piano for fun.
Idk, i’m a law student. I question why i’m here too.
When Two set posts a new video:
Me: was doing homework
Also me: WATCH THE VIDEO
Brain: Homework
Me: no
My piano: PRACTICE
Hand: To late clicked the video
Brain: Noooo
Piano: NOOOOO
Same here...the struggle is real...btw piano gang 🤟
🤟
We join forces
Damnit stop being relatable 😭
I’m supposed to be doing my assignment
Eddie: "don't stress practice"
Me: *stress practiced 8-12 hours a day for 10 days straight to get an audition recording which still sucked*
I also just got to news that we're required to do recordings. Boi am I going to be not convinced with what im going to send them
You gained experience! ;)
@@AldonzaDellaCallabazza You are now level 10!
This was me going from a community college to university lol
I feel this WAYYYYY too hard.
I'm 22, I study violin since I was 12, but never took it seriously. I had some bad teachers that didn't gave me motivation, and I ended up hating the instrument. Now I am about to get a degree in astronomy. Two years ago I discovered this channel, and entered the music university last year. I promise I will do the best I can. Thank you guys.
That is absolutely awesome and inspiring.
Twoset: "Our playing was good enough. It's not like we suck."
**simple way to flex
Me: CRIES IN AGONY "AAARGH!"
*cries in viola*
brett : to be fair we're also playing at okay level, our playing was good enough
eddy : it's not like we suck.. i mean we suck but we yea-
brett : we didn't suck suck
eddy : * proceed to suck his drink *
i like how they're flexing but not flexing
They r just being way too humble about themselves :3
They're flexing humbly
“proceeded to suck his drink”
@@jeonghanhyungaegi1786 😂
I just suck suck
Just to remind everyone that twoset and reached 2.4 M!
Ling ling wannabes never forget unofficial promises
Yay! Can't wait for 3 MIL!!!
woahwoahwoahwoahwoahwoahwoahwoahwoahwoahwoahwoah omg I'm so excited I want them to be so proud of themselves when they reach 3 mil UwU
2 SET 40 HOURS
And they said they would call their fans on discord again. Mhm, SUREEEEEEE.
11:45 Eddy's solo at uni was Barber violin concerto, no wonder Brett chose it as the first piece to test Eddy's memory!
Dropping this link to full audio Eddy's Barber here:
soundcloud.com/eddy-chen-violin
Thanks to the folks who posted it in yesterday's vid's comments
omg this easter egg 😩💞
@@steemsprite7763 thank you omg
I've been listening to this almost daily. I used to wonder what was the noise at the beginning of the second movement, then Twoset told the story of the shoulder rest drop 😂
For those who are interested, there is also a recording of him playing Tchaikovsky Violin Concerto with a Brisbane-based ensemble back in 2012.
www.orchestracordaspiritus.com/page20.html
“To get into a really good college...”
“There’s three options: you have to be either really good, really rich, or have really good connection.”
OR YOU COULD BE LING LING
That’s really perfect. But I believe that’s under the category of really good.
Ooh. A 2set fan from India. Possibly.
@@hadeskay6091 me too from India
@ yesss
@Branford Families It’s a whole different level of “good” 😆
Eddy's hair is fabulous
All I can focus on in the recent videos were Eddy's wiggy bangs.
*wiggle wiggle*
Was just thinking about it! Specifically in today’s video, it’s so on point!!!
He just had a haircut days before:’(
@@pswww_cs :((((( I want his fluffy hair back
While Brett Is over here with his mushroom cut 😂😂😂😂
Eddy: I had to take months off from playing and I got into a wheelchair.
EDDY IS SECRETLY BEN LEE!!!
I wanna know what happened!!
lol 😂
@@antoinek7004 Maybe he had an accident while busking? Eddy seems like the type to do all sorts of crazy movements while performing
This is kinda irrelevant but I’m living for Eddy’s jacket
@@Cookie_CommentI liked Eddy's jacket too 😂😂
brett: we also played at an okay level
also brett: has an entire shrine dedicated to his accomplishments at his parents' house
Yuppp 😂
wow, new info that I don't know😂
Do you have a pic? I wanna see
@@myrac9492 same 😂
Nikkin Myra check out their old video where eddy bought brett viola for his birthday
12:28 For those who don't know, Sibelius started playing the violin when he was 15!! It's never too late! So I compared myself to him. I am 14 and so I though it's too late to start but when I heard Sibelius started at 15 yrs I though I can start it that "late" too. 🤷🏻♀️
arent you pregnant?
Hello, I'm a music educator and I started to play and learn music at 15 and later I graduated a Conservatory. It is not impossible! Good luck and work hard!
You can't be 14 years old and already think it's too late in your life to achieve something, that's mind bogglingly ridiculous. You have barely existed in this world at this point, it's like you just started lol.
@@julittok That's kinda true 🤷🏻♀️ I was gonna say more but not today. Couldn't explain 🤦🏻♀️
@@julittok It's a very common belief in the classical music community though
I love how twoset gets educational and still never forgets to roast. Yeah that's right go open them to the real world guys!!!!!! 😂
"Is 16 too late to start to study professionaly?"
"It's harder but is not impossible"
Me, who started at age 23: T-T I still have a chance!
Regina Lima same here
I started when I was 23 too
you definitely do! 23 might seem late but you could definitely become a professional musician if you practice! just work hard and don’t give up ❤️ i know that seems super bland but it’s true
Im 21 and started last year!
I already earned a non-music college degree before I entered conservatory. I was 27 then. The only pressure I had was to catch up with techniques which could have been in place had I studied formally at a younger age. Since I'm a voice major, I am pushed to my limits by my teacher to realize that I have to work harder and understand my body at a quicker pace so I can produce a decent tone that is at par with my age.
Bottomline, if you wish to study any field and be good at it, treat it like your life depends on it, regardless of your age. It's a commitment. And sooner or later, you have to be good at it in order to sell yourself confidently because it's a competition out there. At the end of the day, network fails if people won't buy you. So, PRACTICE, PRACTICE, PRACTICE!!!
I’m 22 and getting back into the violin again. I’d love to join a community orchestra but sadly where I live those opportunities are only for k-12 and not adults
"There are 3 options. Really good, really rich, or really good connection-"
Oh well it's always like that brett.... EVERYWHERE.
No one:
Nobody:
Brett and Eddy: We played the highest grade when we were like 12. And that level would get you into music uni no problem.
cries in level 6 at 12
@@paperheart7470 lol same :')
12 year olds destroy your self esteem
I have met people who are 13 and can play diplomatic pieces... So it's not impossible. They just have to be Ling Ling
@@Chockitkat yes
1:00 general studies music
1:40 performance opps
3:37 grade
4:15 teachers, understand
5:25 4/5 hrs 6:10 X stress practice
7:00 connections 😳
7:20 self esteem, let gooo
7:44 injuries; STRETCH
8:25 tests
9:30 friends, not business cards
10:48 competitiveness, good spirit, be ur best self
11:50 masterclasses 😲
12:10 degree 🔥
12:30 later studying professionally
“We practiced 4-5 hours a day.”
*Laughs in trumpet*
*Cries in less than 5 hours of practice a week*
Cries in 2 hours or less a day
@@rachelelfman2769 At least you can manage 2 hours.
*Laughs in clarinet.
Ok sometimes if i start practicing 1 song that's really technical or has high notes I die for the rest so it's just 1 hour of the crappiest trumpet playing you've ever heard :(
Eddy: ‘Where Ray Chen studied and that...’
Ray Chen: **goes to Curtis and Queensland Conservatory Griffith Uni (the one they went to)** CHECKMATE
I honestly still think that if Brett and Eddy didn't pursue TH-cam, they would've both been great soloists like Ray!
But they don’t seem to think that themselves...
@@angeladominique You have no idea how many talents remain unknown. There is a galaxy between Ray and two set
Angela Dominique but they were playing in orchestras before they did TH-cam. Idk how that would pan out because so many people get jaded in that life. I feel blessed that they’re doing TH-cam and letting more people know about classical music and inspiring young people who might also become great musicians one day.
@@fontaineabraham3674 that's very true
That "Hotpot reservation" got me XD
Yes why isn't anyone else talking about this 🤣🤣
@@sakuryanacc People are busy appraising Ling Ling who passed highest grade at 12...But they forget that IT IS HOTPOT power up Ling Ling.
I was 38 years old, when I started to play the sax... it's never to late to pursuit your dreams... 3 years into it, not at a professional level, I'm enjoying playing pieces from Rachmaninoff or Shostakovich. Greetings from Portugal
"Destroy your self-esteem, you have no more self-esteem, you just go for it... You're like, who the hell cares? Let's go." is legit the most motivational thing I have heard in my entire life and I'm thinking of making it my alarm ringtone.
Hey a college (not music) professor here: general education is important because it allows you to understand the world. If you have no background on things like history and humanities, it'd be hard to understand where the composers were coming from. If you don't have some foundations in humanities, it'd be hard to interpret the music. I remember one of your videos explaining how knowing that Tchaikovsky could not be openly gay makes interpreting his music much more intimate - that's what general education classes are supposed to teach. Not that you can't know this if you never had a gen ed class, but gen ed classes make these things more accessible.
Agreed. And Brett probably wouldn't mistake England for Italy or vice versa.
This, however, belongs in high school. By the time one is an adult and enters conservatory/uni/varsity it might be a bonus but (hopefully) not required. One should have a basic understanding of the world at that stage.
@@AB-mz3yb I study Korean studies and we HAVE to do two semesters of extracurriculars (the points add up to two semesters, you can do them whenever you want), to earn more knowledge outside of our major.
They recommend learning about the other East Asian countries because that would be helpful for us, but you can do whatever you want. I could literally do Indian studies for two semesters and then graduate in Korean studies with that.
I also think that shouldn’t be compulsory though, I can go more in depth into something else on my own if I think it would benefit me, I’m a grown up and I came here to study Korean, not something else.
Outside of the US this is done in Highschool. Not university. The rest of the world finishes the US Highschool curriculum at 16, and then for two years we study the equivalent of US college “Gen Eds” until 18. This is why your degree programs are longer, and 4 years not 3.
@@thisismyname6715 It's do interesting(!) each country has their own system of education. In Canada, you graduate from high school...grade 12.....at 17/18 yrs.
In grade 11-12, if you know the direction you'd like to go (medicine, music, languages, humanities, etc) and start taking a few courses to get you started on your way (and depending what your high school offers.) The typical student graduates from grade 12 (18 yrs) in June and goes straight into a 4 year undergrad
Brett: I actually never did an audition.
Eddy: *surprised pikachu face*
Nerdy TwoSet is back and I love it
Yesss
Meanwhile me, an art student: *crying in drawing kit budget*
Especially if it's traditional painting
Lime Art GOSH THIS IS SO TRUE.
This is also valid as an architecture student. even more, the 3d models materials and PRINTING budget wtf
Oh true!
As a physics student most of my budget is pens tbh 😂
I love this kind of episodes where they just talk and it feels like we're friends! Love u guys!
I started music college at an age that old school musicians may consider "late", I entered at 26. Now I've been playing the flute since I was 10 but for many reasons mostly social pressure and stupid stigmas to study a "real career" I was forced to study a finances degree, now I must admit that my early 20's were hellish and quite a darn waste of time if you ask me, I never stopped playing the flute though but I always had poor performance in finances despite me understanding the subjects faster but I always felt like I was wasting myself here and it was so painful because I consistently get a higher than average IQ in tests, around 135-140, yet I always had quite average grades, my interest was just not there at all despite how much I lied to myself, so I struggled quite a lot until I eventually blew up and decided that I was not going to be denied of my goal to be a professional musician. That being said, I started to look for good instrument teachers and I eventually met one of the best in my country and had a talk with him, after that he listened to my playing and he told me I had quite a lot of potential so he took me in and prepared me to enter one of the best music colleges in my country and... surprise surprise, I entered with the highest score of my generation in my instrument. Now after quite some time I also returned to finish my finances degree but I'm happy studying music and quite good progress. Now well.. we'll see what the future has in for me but now I think I have found a balance but I gotta say that I learnt that over years and years of continuous struggle and messing up stuff.
Always fun when I manned the university booth at school information days....
Them: "I want to study music...",
Me: That's great, what AMEB/ABRSM grade are you?
Them: "Ummm what are they?"
Me: What instrument do you play?
Them: "Oh I just sing/play guitar"....
Me: uh huh, well you need grade 5 certificat and do an audition to be considered.
Them: "Oh, I thought I would learn how to read notes and stuff"
Me: 🤦♀️
I had this conversation so many times with slight variations that I almost cried tears of relief when a student answered "Oh I have grade 8 ABRSM and I play Clarinet".
To make you feel better: I’m doing Level 9 CM (equivalent to grade 7 ABRSM) and I play piano
To be honest, before watching Twoset, that's what I thought yall would do as well. Only recently do I know (and did a lil research on music unis in my own country to confirm what they said) that you need to be at quite a high level to study music in uni.
Twoset: * complain about writing essays and APA reference style *
Me: * laughs in psychology and academia *
HAHAHAHA SAME
Psychology gang here
that's why Mendeley exists guys, otherwise referencing with APA style is gonna be real painful if you make a long research paper 😂 glad those academic-writing days have passed lol
APA is awesome. Screw Chicago and MLA.
Psychology gang here 😂 I’m forever thankful for citavi and other citation program
not to be dramatic or sth but i love these dudes a LOT. they make my quarantine better🤷🏻♀️
Hi army ❤️❤️
Can't say I love them but they have been giving a lot of laughs in these grim times.
I didn't find them til this year but as someone who works from home it give me entertainment.
just had to mention how eddy looks so good in flannel shirts hahah
Top tip: always practice in a room with bad acoustics or multiple different rooms because the acoustics in an audition etc may not be as good as your used to and it quickly becomes apparent if you haven’t got good acoustics covering bad tone etc.
Me:*loves music*
Friends:"why don't you study music?"
Me:"yeah, why don't I?"
My lack of talent:〜(꒪꒳꒪)〜"sup?"
Then go practice!
Then practice 40 hours a day.
Practice
They have found the answer to all of my struggles...have no self esteem
The only timeline that the musicians really have is:
*'PRACTICE 40 HOURS'*
*40 hours a day
@@muhammadarkanramadhan3799 nah bruh i just mean they need to practice no matter what time it is
“Competitiveness should be a spirit where you just want to be the best you can.” Thank you for pointing that out!! I hope music universities/colleges continue to encourage students with this mindset!
Ooooh those compulsory choir classes explain a lot.
WhErE iS mY wArM wAtEr wiTh HonEY and LemOn?
Music playing in the background: Brahms, Double Concerto in A minor, Op. 102
Played it in orchestra at University!
omg thank you!! i was looking through the comments to see if anybody mentioned the BG music
I am eleven years old and I am about to do the highest grade possible for violin. I’ve been preparing for about 2 months and I know, with Twoset existing, I have a high standard to live up too. I’ve been subscribed since I was eight. Twoset, you inspired me and thank you so much!
goodluck buddy!!
How to join a music school:
1)
*_H A V E C O N N E C T I O N S_*
Lol also
*B E R I C H*
@@sathyavarun4818 also
*Play an obscure instrument*
(*Laughs in harp*)
@@noaharpist *cries in percussionist*
@Noa Davies *cri in flute*
@@noaharpist *sad poor piano noises*
7:30 "destroy your self-esteem, you have no more slef-esteem, you just go for it"
rather than trying to try to build up a self-esteem, just let go, have no self-esteem"
"self-esteem is just is"
"the ego is gone"
and suddenly, twosetviolin start teaching The Tao. xD
12:37 that calms me a lot...
When you watch a TwoSet video instead of attending online class
*A sacrifice for a greater cause.*
Lol
8:48 "If you put the semicolon wrong you get two marks taken off."
Oh I feel you. Or if you press the spacebar twice.
i love the way eddy looked at brett at 11.15 🤍
get someone who'll look at u like that lol
I’m at a mid-sized state university in the US that has a music program specialized in education. Our department is small, and we’re mostly focused on band/wind instruments, percussion, and voice. Here are a few answers that are slightly different:
• We have to perform for two workshops per semester: one a few weeks in, and one about halfway in
• More serious solo performances are determined and separated by level. Level is determined by your performance at juries. The lower the level, the more time you have to prepare your pieces.
• Juries are held twice a semester.
• Halfway in, instrumentalists are tested on scales and etudes (also determined by level), and singers are to give a oral presentations to the other voice professors about their foreign language songs, including the translations and how the music conveys the message of the lyrics.
• End of semester juries are performances for the faculty panel. You must perform at least two pieces of repertoire. You have three options: pass, fail, or promote. Everyone starts at level 1 after being accepted at auditions, and there are 4 levels. You can request promotion any time you’d like, but you need your teacher’s permission. The jury will deliberate on your performance when you’ve left the stage (you can’t hear what they say about you, but you can view their paper notes a few days later when they have been filed). The promotion to level 4 is an entire recital performance by yourself, and the preview counts as the jury. You must make level 3 to get an education degree, and level 4 for performance or jazz studies. (It’s really complicated idk)
• You can audition during your first semester of freshman year, and there are two options: in the middle of the semester or at the end. You can also audition during your last year of high school (which I did and prefer bc it’s less to worry about).
• Practicing is important. I’ve noticed at my school that the standard of productivity relates you your teacher’s expectations more heavily than anything else. I’m a clarinetist, and my teacher has very high standards, which means I’ve learned efficient practice techniques. I practice two hours a day most days, and on sundays I sometimes practice 4-8 hours. There are some studios notorious for low standards and lack of practice ethic (in my school it’s percussion and voice), and many of them take longer to promote or even graduate. Many people here get by on about 1 hour or less per day (which is really sad imo).
• We’re a state college so we’re required to take general ed classes like English, basic math, sciences, and seminars. Almost none of them relate to music and I feel like my time is being wasted.
• Auditions are low stakes. You need two contrasting pieces and memorized major scales. “Contrasting” is open for interpretation, and could include period/style or tempo and character. I played a slow and fast, one was classical and the other was romantic.
• I’ve gotten great connections and multiple jobs through this program. I’m freelancing for different directors and groups, and have steady performances in the summer. I’ve also gotten education experience and jobs (which is my area).
• I know a lot of people who didn’t take music seriously until later in high school. I also know people (including myself) who didn’t start on their main instrument until high school. I started on clarinet aged 16, and many of my friends have similar situations. Most of us had prior music experience, for example I already played saxophone and could read music/knew basic theory. A friend of mine was a chorus singer before taking up trumpet at 17 and it became his main (and he was very good). You can start later, but it really helps if you already have prior music knowledge. You can’t wake up one day and just decide to be a music major. It also takes a lot of work and determination.
• being a music major has one of the craziest schedules and time commitments of any other major I’ve met. It is also (without exaggeration) one of the most rigorous majors I’ve observed. Because my college is a public college I’ve met many people of different majors who can party all weekend, never study, and take 4-5 classes per semester. Music majors are busy all day long with work, and we load what is essentially a 5 year program into 4 years, meaning we take upwards of 6-7 classes a semester. Just last year alone I performed with 6 different performing ensembles on top of my solo repertoire and academic classes. In order to be successful, you have to spend a lot of time on school stuff, and you have much less time for “fun stuff” (but I think school is kinda fun sometimes).
• Concerto performances are rare. They’re only offered to seniors who go above and beyond in the work they put in in their practicing. We only feature concerto soloists once every few years, and they go to people who are the most regimented, hardest workers who learn repertoire proficiently and quickly. I’m the first concerto performer in 4 years, and I’m playing it at a concert in three days (yikes!)
• in the US, state colleges are probably the easiest and most affordable way to get a music degree, especially if you’re only looking to teach and not become a professional performer. I still have student loans tho.
• comparing yourself to others is a lot easier when you’re not used to the environment or when you’re insecure. The more time spent doing efficient practice methods and doing your absolute best as a player and performer, the less you’ll feel compelled to compare yourself to others. I’m not a technician, but instead of comparing my technical ability to other clarinetists, I simply work harder at it and purposely pick pieces that target technique over my strong suits like tone or phrasing.
hahaha wow i wish twosetviolin existed when i was in high school and piano was a bigger part of my life. i had so much performance anxiety and it was the main thing that made me drop my piano major in college. if i had two ppl telling me “JUST DO IT” and normalize performance anxiety like this, i feel like i wouldve gritted my teeth and just gone through with it. thank you twoset for being so transparent abt the music life!!
Coming from an incoming music education major, depending on the college/conservatory, you'll actually have required performances, or "recitals". You'll also be required to participate in an ensemble that correlates with your instrument (e.g. voice majors participate in choirs) for the vast majority of your time in music school, if not all of it. One music school I auditioned for prided itself in their belief that music education majors should be held to the same standards as music performance majors when it comes to musicianship.
Long story short, yes, you will likely have performances even if you're not a performance major, but I guarantee taking every chance you get to perform (within reason of course) will be totally worth it.
I’m so happy they’re giving help for aspiring musicians. It’s a nice change of pace to their usual videos.
Video idea: sight read a piece with the composer's original hand writing (this is the second time I'm writing this idea)
I am constantly in love with Brett's idc, fuck it attitude (7:30)! I feel like he and Eddy are real down to earth guys 👍
Twoset is the true form of practice hard, flex hard and I'm so motivated😂😂😂
I'm studying composition at music University, so I don't care that much about finding a practice room since i can do that at home, but what I spend most of the time doing, is annoying the crap out of ppl that study performance in different instruments, like oboe, violin, trombones, etc. I go cheking in different rooms and ask them if I can can come in and watch them practice, most times they just say no and I leave, but sometimes they let me come in, and with that I learn a lot about how those other instruments I don't play work, i even got already a couple guys that actually tell me in advance where and when they practice and what, so I go there and I even compose short solo pieces for them and try to include tecnics and stuff they are working on at the time, so we manage to both impove, i learn how to compose for those instruments and they get more practice on different things they need, they sometimes tell me to write them things outside their comfort zone to challenge themselves and I always try my best to deliever. I honestly am learning more from this than from my profesors, lol
as an upcoming senior in high school, holy crap i needed this
I’m in the 2020 graduation and I just got accepted to Julliard University( #1 American music arts university) . I was so happy that I almost cooked myself. I will be a ling ling.
Damn, that's so cool. Good luck!!
Omg so cool congrats
You sure about that? If you really were among the 5.6% to get accepted ... one would think you'd know how to spell the school's name ...
@@jn3090 I mean late reply but I know a few ppl in Juilliard who thought the spelling was “julliard” like the op up there, for a few years up until their junior year because the “I” isn’t enunciated at all in the word’s pronunciation lmao. It’s possible.
@@jn3090 ah yes, an inconsequential typo that makes you doubt their entire academic career. really...? humans make mistakes.
They said “pay off our student loans” whilst smiling and laughing
But you could hear the trauma underneath...
Am i the only one who dont play any instrument but really enjoy watching twoset. Early gang here🤚
late gang here TT
You're part of the classical music community now. That's best thing about Twoset they revolutionised the snobby and divisive culture associated with classical enthusiasts and made it welcome to all
You're not the only who doesn't play any instrument. I watch them because they're entertaining.
No instrument here ha ha
It's-a-ME! I have a few friends who play instruments and from my observations I've come to the conclusion that playing an instrument is hell on Earth.
Answer to most questions: *Well It depends...*
ik eddy said he won't talk about it but i'm really so curious about how he got himself in a wheelchair
He fell down from a bicycle. It was mentioned in the Drawing Our Lives video
@@lea2467
You realize it was a joke, right ? Eddy did spend some time in a wheelchair, but the bicycle part in that video was just him making fun of Ben Lee... 😄
It sounds like he didn't take care of himself, and got injured practicing too much without giving his body time to rest. Probably hurt his neck which is extremely scary to think.
You can have the answer in their new mental health video
This is one of the most serious I've seen Eddy and Brett (Brett and Eddy?) and I enjoyed hearing their heartfelt opinions and how genuine their experience with music school. Must be great guys to share a pint over :)
"There's no more self esteem. The ego is gone" maybe that's why you guys are one of the nicest people i know. I don't say it's good to have no self esteem because you guys are obv very good as musicians and as humans and worthy of all the love and you should never forget that but the big ego can destroy you and your true relationships with people pretty fast. It's good you guys had each other. Solid support system is everything
I came here to listen about professional classical musicians' experience (and for laughs & good vibes) but got a valuable life lesson: "Destroy your self-esteem. "
Amazing! How have I never thought of it?!
Love you guys! You're absolutely awesome!!
I'm not a musician.. But I had to do flute classes for the first 3 years like when I entered college ( 11 to 18 years). In the video they were like, they practiced 4 to 5 hours and I was like...... My class practiced literally before that particular class. We had to move to the music room for the class, but before that we were all practicing in a normal room... It was fun but nightmare... We were practicing different notes.... You get the thing...
Nah I won’t attend music school after this
@Yanjun Sun to be a doctor
HAHAHHA DUDE
MaKe FaMiLy PrOuD
Is it me or the chemistry of their friendship in this video just seems to come afloat so naturally? Like, they just seem so relaxed, comfortable and specially goofy
It honestly warms my heart that they keep on looking to each other as they answer, like they need the other's approval at all times
theyre so cute, i feel like i’m getting advice from my older brothers 🥺🥺🥺
7:48 now i'm curious about that injury...
Yeahhhhhhh
Yeah, why would an injury that stops him playing for 8 months mean he was in a wheelchair? Unless he injured his neck and and gave him leg weakness or something... I don’t want to pry in his private life, but as a nurse, I’m intrigued!... perhaps he fell off a bike and hurt his wrist, like Ben lee, but also broke his knee!
maybe he has something like a car accident or was hit by one
from my point of a distracted person I could tell that it's pretty common
I felt really bad. But glad it was long time ago and everything's fine now
I really like when you share some background of your experiences at music school, wouldn't mind it became a regular thing in your vids.
How to overcome low self-esteem, have no self-esteem! Where has this info been all my life! XD
Time marker 2:00, words of wisdom are shared.
"If you have a performance opportunity, I think you should take it. I know it's tricky, you get performance anxiety. But if you want to become a musician to perform, you can't skip that process. So you just do it while you can." - Brett Yang, 06JUN2020
Im so agree with brett's advice just let it go, do it yolo timeee, same with art school when you see so many people making good art and it makes your self esteem down its just idc anymore imma just do my best and submit those freaking project.
1:25
twoset a few videos ago: BUBBLE TEA THAT'S WHAT WE'RE MISSING
eddy rn:
Haha i love your username
Awww I missed this kind of vids 🥺
*the early content of this video*
brett ; does all the explanation
eddy ;
*SIPS ON BUBBLE TEA*
12:26 Eddy u killed me with that "if you wanna"
Me: wakes up, sees twoset notification
"Ah I'll watch it later"
*Video is about Music School*
Me: MUST WATCH NOW
oh hey
The advise you guys are giving are relatable with all fields of study, I think. Thank youuu.
Eddy:Someone even snuck a blade into a piano....
Agent 47: wtf dude
Juliard . In the book, 'Life Between the Keys", by The Five Browns. Chapter three talks about the rumors of razor blades between the keys, as well as the competitiveness at Juliard.
@@Bilytkid I don't think I believe the razor blade rumor. They would be sued into bankrupcy when they deliberately forced pianists into a possibility of hurting their precious fingers and ruining their possible careers.
They can't take that risk.
@@ankavoskuilen1725 - the rumor was of other students doing it against their rivals, not the professors. But its rather confirmed, the students resorted to other dirty tactics to sabotage someones practice.
Intro Music: Prokofiev "Classical" Symphony No. 1, 4th mvt
Music starting at 0:24 : Brahms Double Concerto for Violin and Cello, 1st mvt
At university I was a music major for a little while, I think three semesters (I didn't go to a conservatory). While I enjoyed music very much, I learned there that the expectations of a professional musician weren't things I could physically or emotionally meet (I have scoliosis and horrible performance anxiety! - I was good enough to get into the program, but was always in pain). While I'm disappointed that I had to change my future goals, I'm glad that I learned my limitations at a place where other majors were easily available, and I found two that were much better for me! I guess the point I'm trying to make is that even if you love music and shoot for the moon and fall short, you can still love music and make a life for yourself. Being unable to be a professional performer doesn't lessen the value of your love for the art, and you can always still play for your own enjoyment on your own terms.
Choir, provides skill building sets such as sight reading, using music theory and ear training. Including, learning to listen to the other voices and blend with them, while blending into your section and singing in mixed sectionals. Singing in mixed sectionals really builds your listening and ear training skills, because even with a bass singing on one side and a baritone singing on the other. Including, an alto singing in the next section below you, you still have to be able to blend with everyone and with your section. When I entered a university school of music, years ago. I was required to be able to sing at a level, denoted for a freshman level.