Oh man I remembered we had a huge argument with the stage people. The light for the stage is too bright and the glare is literally blinding us whenever we tried looking at the conductor or CM. I think they said it was for the soloists. Back and forth argument, and they fixed it by changing the angle. And on the day of the concert? They freaking returned it to the original position. I remember thinking there’s holy aura surrounding our conductor that day. Can’t even see his baton, he’s just glowing fabulously.
Just realized that the clip they put for Swan Lake was actually my mom dancing back in the days 😂. My mom made it in a Twoset video wohoo!! Edit : I confirmed with my mom, and it isn’t her :/, due to the partner she was with when she played the role. It almost fooled me with the side profile and the arms though. To respond to some of you that asked, my mom’s name is Muriel Valtat and she played Odette in 1998 with The Royal Ballet , if you’re interested in seeing footage (although there’s really not that much uploaded to TH-cam).
0:27 Did orchestra help develop your skills? 1:30 vacations 2:08 no. of performances per month/busiest month 3:13 do you audition every year? Does it decide your seatings? 3:47 Was your first time in orchestra stressful? 4:31 How many rehearsals per week? 5:04 does the competition stop you from making friends? 5:37 consequences of being late 6:16 Do all rehearsals happen with every performer? 6:47 does it become boring (in a bad way)? 7:30 do concertmasters take charge aside from the conductor? 8:03 how many takes does it take to do a recording? 8:48 who’s the most amazing musician you’ve played with? ❤️❤️❤️ 9:00 how pro orchestra differ from youth orchestra 10:21 different pay rates? 10:57 have you been called out for messing up? 11:55 dramatic conductor stories? 12:38 how do you “ascend” in chairs? 13:06 any work politics? (Let me know if I didn’t get everything right 😊)
I highly recommend joining in an orchestra. I feel that even playing in a high level youth orchestra has improved my playing a lot. As a woodwind player you have got a lot of solo passages and that's when you really want to sound good and start practicing more and more to achieve that. You also learn a lot and develop your own prefered sound quality from listening to other players, performing in concerts and working with soloists. And also it's a lot of fun.
@aucune idee lel😂 how did you know? Yes I am a flutist. I studied flute, but I also play the piano and cello. You really should play in an orchestra. Try to find a good one. 😘💕
aucune idee lel I am a flutist and I play as well in an high level youth orchestra and I gotta say that without I would have probably stopped playing the flute. The beginning is maybe a little bit difficult but it makes is much fun you’ll improve so so much. I can truly recommend :)
same I joined a high level youth orchestra and it's worlds better than school orchestra. like we've played Mahler 1, Rachmaninoff symphony 2, new world, ravel rapsodie espagnole etc compared to happy birthday. :| i literally quit school orchestra bc of this oml.
Percussion is the field goal kicker of the orchestra. Only comes out a few times during a 3 hour game but he better be perfect every time. Couldn’t pay me enough to count 98 bars of rest and the ensuing panic attack.
in my orchestra, our conductor grills the percussion section so badly, he tells them they'll never get another job if they play like that like dude I'm sitting there sweating like crazy onto my violin like I haven't just sightread most of the stuff we played.
“Are there any politics?” Yes. I once played in an orchestra that hired a new conductor. After two concerts, the new leader asked to audition everyone, but we were promised that our positions were 100% safe. The audition was ONLY for the conductor to assess the level of the players, and would be very short. Just a couple of excerpts from the last concert, and a bit of a solo work of your own choosing, no big deal. Happy, happy, joy, joy, just want to get to know ya. No one will be let go! You’re all safe with me. After the audition, several players were fired (not me, thankfully).
That's honestly sickening. Did the new conductor lose a lot of trust after that? I don't think I'd be able to trust a leader with such a blatant lack of integrity.
I just love how when the camera dies editor san just needs to basically animate all their motions and its even funnier because its just still frames of random photos of brett and eddy. photoshopped poorly. This is high quality content
*In a professional orchestra,* when a concert master makes a bowing change everyone gets it. You're always looking out for the front. If someone writes something in, what they write you make the change *Youth orchestra* "Stop! Hey guys, let's make this change on bar A-Z" *Everyone* : ANYONE HAZ A PEN OR PENCIL
As a former ballet dancer (was non pro though, but I'm sure anyone who danced in any corps de ballet can relate), I feel you guys. Especially during Nutcracker season. As corps though, we had to play multiple roles (party guest, snow AND flowers for nut!) in a ballet so we had the added difficulty of memorizing multiple dances and blockings plus keeping track of multiple castings. Fun 😆😰
Had to do 8 shows in 6 days. One day break, next ballet. I remember one Principal in Le Corsaire doing Ali both in the matinee and then again in the evening one day.
11:12 I just searched 'Dene Olding' and learned he's a distinguished violinist and concertmaster at SSO. Wow, to get picked by Dene to sub him as concertmaster must have been nerve-wracking and an honour.
@@aeoniaxx I'm guessing it's because of their "war" with Davie504.. If you don't know him, he's a bassist who hates people playing bass with a pick, even says that it's illegal hahaha
"Who's the most amazing musician you've ever played with?" Brett: Eddy Eddy: Brett Me: AFBAKTNRODIFGNEWK (edit: i kinda meant it in a friendship way but ok that works too)
I'm not even in professional orchestra, but my orchestra teacher at school always says "early is on time, on time is late, and late is unacceptable" lol
Shy doesn't necessarily mean you don't do embarrassing things in public, it can also just be about interacting with people. My sister and I are very different - when I initially meet someone new, I'm often pretty shy (it's a lot better now than it was five or ten years ago, but still noticeable) but I have no problem walking or cycling through the streets, singing loudly - I don't care what anyone thinks. My sister is the exact opposite. She isn't shy with new people at all but she can't bear it if I start singing on the street (even quietly) because she feels embarrassed and she would never in a million years do it herself. So, tl;dr: there are different ways of being shy
I love how brett said "we will answer your questions as honest as we possibly can" like brett was 70% certain they were gonna sugarcoat some shimmies 😂
As a young conductor myself, I am hopefull we will leave that old school model of the "yelling conductor" behind. You can know what you want, be asertive and get results without doing so, it just takes more personal work to reflect on how to best achieve that.
@@zamadeapio9 absolutely! conducting as a profession is also relatively new ( lets say only about 150 years vs instruments that have been around way longer). So in a way its constantly developing and I already see the trend moving towards a more thoughtfull approach to leadership.
@@elize2952 100%! I dont know of any musician that went into their carreers without the intent of enjoying and sharing their love of music ( we are certaintly not choosing it to become millionaires XD). So while there needs to be discipline and hard work, it has to come back to a love and need to share music with others.
I Fortunately I had the pleasure of meeting Brett and Eddy during one of their shows and let me say they are so nice! Practice 40 hours a day Ling Ling wannabes! And also are any other Australians watching as soon as this was uploaded which was 11pm.
I can't even relate since I'm not a musician but i just like the vibe of two people just talking about their professional experience and being chill about it It feels nice
I still think about that time I went to the Sydney opera house and saw Brett, but I didn’t know who he was at the time and I cry about it to this day. (Cuz this is a video about orchestra and I watched him perform)
I love it when Brett and Eddy share their experiences with us^^ Whether it's embarrassing or funny, I always finish their video with a smile on my face~
I will say, working with a professional orchestra, there tends to be FAR more maturity than with youth/college orchestras. That's something I greatly appreciated.
Second? Once I was 20 minutes late to a jazz band gig, because I couldn’t find the venue... I haven’t been called in since. 😂I LOVE these Q&A’s. Please do more! Update: darn it, I never get here on time!!
Theresa Chacon RIGHT!! Sadly tho, I was late to the performance. so when i got there I silently rushed to my seat on stage, (was playing Bari so it was easy) and then the white clouds of hair in the audience laughed at my appearance. It was sooooo saddd and I cringe just thinking about it!!! I WISH IT HAD BEEN A REHEARSAL INSTEAD. I got a good $10 out of it tho
Imeilda Alafa Baina Disri I think only these 2 weeks? I remember them uploading videos on Wednesday 2 weeks ago 😂😂 Maybe they’re busy on something else, just let them take their time
@@kaerusakana9151 yea you're right. they don't always have to be sooo busy. take some rest and recover. it'll make them happier, more focused and more productive
I want to have a career in music because it’s something I’m really passionate about, but my parents always tell me how scary it can be to actually find a stable job in the music industry, so I got pushed back in this little shell of constant doubt that I’ll become homeless if I try to have a career in music, but twoset gave me some more confidence about being able to start one, even if I did start playing viola a bit later than others. I’ve played piano for 6 years and viola for 3. I love playing both and I love how twoset was able to give me some confidence in wanting to actually have a life that’s mainly something I love, music.
just an audible soft "aw" when they named each other as the greatest musician they've played in orchestra with... i know Brett said everyone's a great musician but that was very sweet XD like Eddy taking a beat of consideration before saying Brett's name, and Brett not hesitating either, and no goofing about saying each other's names like it's an embarrassing thing too...
It's so cool to hear your experiences! Sometimes I wish I had started playing the violin earlier, so I could have been a professional musician :( Even though I started late (at 19) I'm still soooo glad I did it at all. I'm playing in an amateur orchestra and it's fun to compare your experiences in professional orchestras to my experience in an amateur one :D
This is a great video for someone outside of the music industry or not related to music. I love behind scene stories, and they are more interesting when told by you guys!
It would be great if TwoSet can do a video series where they review youth orchestras' performances from all around the world. Nice way to introduce small and aspiring communities consisting of the upcoming generation of orchestra musicians out there!
Story Time When I was in orchestra before corona hit, my conductor heard the basses mess up, and made us all play the part INDIVIDUALLY, and I was scared as FUCK. For all you non musicians, when you get called out in orchestra, it’s feels much worse than it sounds. One of my old conductors would always roast the violins and violas, and make them play separately....and I fell asleep. Another time the cello teacher in orchestra was singing the part, and the amount of pressure put on us to not laugh...when we went on break I was laughing my ASS off!!! 😂😂😂😂 Edit: ohmygoodnesslikes-
Oh my god I hate when that happens. I'm in a choir and even when I know my part my voice will always come out a little squeaky every time this happens lolol >> vocal equivalent of shaky bow
TooLittleInfo lol there are FOUR basses in my orchestra. FOUR!! Last year my other conductor told the basses to play forte, but then told us we were to loud. SHE ALWAYS TOLD US TO PLAY SOFTER!!! EVEN IN OUR SOLOS!!! But she was funny I miss her
Oh... Its happens too in a choir. Pointing out in the mids of many, then choir conductor told you to sing a specific part, and all of the people inside will hear you. Out of pitch or on correct pitch.I feel you😂😂😂
About the question at 10:22: In Germany strings and non-principal musicians get paid approximately the same. The concert master and the principal-strings (?I'm not certain what it's called) get paid a little extra. The principal wind instruments get even more, cause of the great responsibility they have to take... Then some orchestras pay you extra if your married, have children or/and live outside the city the orchestra is in. Also the orchestra pays you for your instruments repair and some orchstras even have the option of giving you a work-instrument. I don't now if that applys to every orchestra in Germany, but that's what I now
About being late: I had the chance to talk to a musician of the Vienna Philharmonic Orchestra about that exact thing. He told me the following: after the first time you'll be invited to a serious talk with the orchestra's management. After the second time there will again be a talk with management plus you have to pay a multiple of the amount of money you would have earned (for that rehearsal) as a punishment. After the third time you're out of the orchestra.
I have been binging twoset like anything since the last few weeks because I wanted to catch up on all the inside jokes and basic knowledge (not a musician lol) AND IT FEELS LIKE AN ACCOMPLISHMENT TO BE HERE WITHIN AN HOUR OF UPLOAD EEEEEEEEEEK
Non-musician gang here and this is actually interesting. I like learning about other people’s work that are 180 degrees different than mine. Thank you for sharing.
This was fantastic, thank you! I loved hearing all about life in a pro orchestra! Your videos always make my day and inspire my violin students too! :)
Literally been watching a bunch of your videos today and just as I finish the Classical Conspiracies one I find you uploaded a new one - excellent timing 👌
i played for a youth symphony for two years, and then i joined a professional orchestra when i was 13. WHAT A CHANGE! oh, and there can be a loooot of jealousy in an orchestra, too. but there are a lot of chill people. 😂
When they talked about being supportive and friendly in the Orchestra I really felt that. I may not play in a professional orchestra and don't have that much life experience yet but so far, I can confirm what dad told me when I was nervous about joining an orchestra rehearsal for the very first time: "Bad people are not musicians." I played in different orchestras/ensembles/duos and up to this day I can say that all the musicians I met are incredibly nice people without exception. Sure, some do have a little attitude but they still care, put effort in it and have a good heart.
I must disagree. The musicians in a professional orchestra have practiced that instrument (strings) from 4-6 yrs old every day of their life. As they grow up, they will practice 5-8 hrs per day to get to the level that they can win an audition to get in an orchestra. Spending time alone playing on a box of wood every day by themselves for all of their lives has an effect on many (if not most) of them. Quite a lot of them are very mal-adjusted socially.
I love you guys. I started playing Viola when I was 10. I gave up and picked up a bass at 13. I still play bass, but a drum kit is my main instrument. I can now play 4 instruments and I'm a vocalist. Hate me if you choose. At least I practice.
Just wanna say thank you both for making these videos- right now I'm in Uni and I'm definitely going through a dark time where I'm just not practicing at all and this keeps me inspired to play music.
I really want two set to review or react to Mozart in the Jungle, there is a fair bit of dramatization of course because it’s for the general audience, but I think it does a pretty good job of straddling reality and dramatization.
My guys, it’s literally 11:17 in vic, and I am meant to be asleep, because I have a mountain of work to do tomorrow, you cannot just dROP new content at this ungodly hour of night
Great video; I really enjoyed hearing about pro symphonies. I played violin (terribly) in youth orchestras and loved being part of it. Sold the violin for a plane ticket to graduate school, so living vicariously ever since.
Eddy: Usually it’s about 40 hours
Ling Ling: :O
Eddy: A week
Ling Ling: >:C
Lol nice one
>:C
>:C
th-cam.com/video/EmoZbQuAHoE/w-d-xo.html
honestly, the best commercial ever
>:C
We're glad the guy who was "very very very very shy" and the "didn't want friends" guy became "bffs 4eva"
You just sums up introvert XD
It's fate, yo XD
people die before "forever" ends
How can they be shy? They've done embarrassing things out in public for their YT vids
They're the perfect example of introvert getting adopted by An Extrovert (Or vice versa, for me anyways)
The orchestra is not a child’s playground, it’s a battlefield
that sounds like something a chinese drama protagonist would say
th-cam.com/video/EmoZbQuAHoE/w-d-xo.html
honestly, the best commercial ever
Violas, at some point.
I agree😂
Jeremy Christian it’s from this video ( 2:34 ): th-cam.com/video/mdMLhFUlOaE/w-d-xo.html
Oh man I remembered we had a huge argument with the stage people. The light for the stage is too bright and the glare is literally blinding us whenever we tried looking at the conductor or CM. I think they said it was for the soloists. Back and forth argument, and they fixed it by changing the angle. And on the day of the concert? They freaking returned it to the original position. I remember thinking there’s holy aura surrounding our conductor that day. Can’t even see his baton, he’s just glowing fabulously.
This is totally underrated !
F
They 100% returned it to the original position on purpose
Non musician here and i have to ask who are the concert masters??
@@confused7970 I'm not a musician either, but I think it's usually the lead violinist.
Times like these i wonder why i still watch them when I'm not a musician
me too
@@adityadhingra2924 b e c o m e one
If anything learn the otomatone because it takes like 5 seconds to figure out
They have personality. They are fun to watch.
Same here too
"I'm just here to play violin, leave me alone."
Brett is such a mood.
Just imagine yourself going to a professional orchestra as a 15 year old. You think you're so good. 20 minutes in and you see a 11 year old arrive.
As the soloist...
Then some finnish 8- yr old shows up as a guest conductor
i joined when i was 13. im 15 now... and still the youngest somehow. 😂😂😂
@@abbychism7991 it might be because for every year that you age, everyone else ages too( except for the Queen)
@@tuttiflooti this is not that the queen is not becoming older,that just yhe universe becomes younger for her
Ling Ling doesn't need to work for an orchestra.
Ling Ling is the orchestra.
well, Eddy was an orchestra once for Tchaikovsky violin concerto..imagine him being Ling Ling lol
@@hayleecaserta7258 It is too violant.
The orchestra works for LingLing
Wait Isnt that illegal
Haylee Caserta Oof trueee 😂😂
I’d pay to see a TwoSet orchestra
It’s called Tchaikovsky drop
3millions sub is on the way prepare for the Sibelius drop!
This guy's channel 👏
there's a lingling orchestra on reddit
Same here. Hope they can resume touring soon.
Who's the most amazing musician you've played with?
Brett: EDDY
Eddy: BRETT
Yaaassss BREDDY!! Friendship Goals!!
Best best friends on TH-cam
Why Breddy not Ett >:(
I want friendship like theirs...
Correction: Almost everybody needs a friendship like theirs
their friendship is so good.
I had to pause the video and AWWW out loud I honestly wasn’t expecting it but I ain’t gonna complain
Me fully knowing I will never be in a professional orchestra.
Also me: InTeResTiNg
ye
LING LING GRANGER I’m almost 18 my bday is tomorrow, so yeah I don’t 😭🤧🤧🤧
@@Ywtwer33334 happy birthday
Yazmin Belle thank you!
I WANT TO PLAY!! at least one huhu
Just realized that the clip they put for Swan Lake was actually my mom dancing back in the days 😂. My mom made it in a Twoset video wohoo!!
Edit : I confirmed with my mom, and it isn’t her :/, due to the partner she was with when she played the role. It almost fooled me with the side profile and the arms though. To respond to some of you that asked, my mom’s name is Muriel Valtat and she played Odette in 1998 with The Royal Ballet , if you’re interested in seeing footage (although there’s really not that much uploaded to TH-cam).
Wowie!
that's cool.
whoa!!!
Soo coooolllllllll
Really? Wow
0:27 Did orchestra help develop your skills?
1:30 vacations
2:08 no. of performances per month/busiest month
3:13 do you audition every year? Does it decide your seatings?
3:47 Was your first time in orchestra stressful?
4:31 How many rehearsals per week?
5:04 does the competition stop you from making friends?
5:37 consequences of being late
6:16 Do all rehearsals happen with every performer?
6:47 does it become boring (in a bad way)?
7:30 do concertmasters take charge aside from the conductor?
8:03 how many takes does it take to do a recording?
8:48 who’s the most amazing musician you’ve played with? ❤️❤️❤️
9:00 how pro orchestra differ from youth orchestra
10:21 different pay rates?
10:57 have you been called out for messing up?
11:55 dramatic conductor stories?
12:38 how do you “ascend” in chairs?
13:06 any work politics?
(Let me know if I didn’t get everything right 😊)
Cal Kestis tysm!!!
13:55 =D
Thanks.
Thank U
thx
I highly recommend joining in an orchestra. I feel that even playing in a high level youth orchestra has improved my playing a lot. As a woodwind player you have got a lot of solo passages and that's when you really want to sound good and start practicing more and more to achieve that. You also learn a lot and develop your own prefered sound quality from listening to other players, performing in concerts and working with soloists. And also it's a lot of fun.
@aucune idee lel😂 how did you know? Yes I am a flutist. I studied flute, but I also play the piano and cello. You really should play in an orchestra. Try to find a good one. 😘💕
aucune idee lel I am a flutist and I play as well in an high level youth orchestra and I gotta say that without I would have probably stopped playing the flute. The beginning is maybe a little bit difficult but it makes is much fun you’ll improve so so much. I can truly recommend :)
@@claremon6033 😘💕
@aucune idee lel 😂😂😂💕
same I joined a high level youth orchestra and it's worlds better than school orchestra. like we've played Mahler 1, Rachmaninoff symphony 2, new world, ravel rapsodie espagnole etc compared to happy birthday. :| i literally quit school orchestra bc of this oml.
Percussion is the field goal kicker of the orchestra. Only comes out a few times during a 3 hour game but he better be perfect every time. Couldn’t pay me enough to count 98 bars of rest and the ensuing panic attack.
in my orchestra, our conductor grills the percussion section so badly, he tells them they'll never get another job if they play like that like dude I'm sitting there sweating like crazy onto my violin like I haven't just sightread most of the stuff we played.
Right -- you count 358 bars and then play one triangle note (which is the most important note in the bar) -- you have to be dead on ALL THE TIME.
“Are there any politics?” Yes. I once played in an orchestra that hired a new conductor. After two concerts, the new leader asked to audition everyone, but we were promised that our positions were 100% safe. The audition was ONLY for the conductor to assess the level of the players, and would be very short. Just a couple of excerpts from the last concert, and a bit of a solo work of your own choosing, no big deal. Happy, happy, joy, joy, just want to get to know ya. No one will be let go! You’re all safe with me.
After the audition, several players were fired (not me, thankfully).
Lol they lied the SOBS I hate when people lie especially on jobs makes you lose all faith in them.
That was sick and deserved a lawsuit.
@@anadd6195 Yeah, but the cost of a lawsuit would have outweighed any potential reward.
Wtf. That sucks
That's honestly sickening. Did the new conductor lose a lot of trust after that? I don't think I'd be able to trust a leader with such a blatant lack of integrity.
“Why am I here?”
-Sun Tzu, The Art of War
Ah, a man of culture :)
@@notpresobama1553 Ah i see you're a man of culture as well
Is that a Technoblade reference
Or Dream idk
If practising is sure to result in victory then you must practice!
I just love how when the camera dies editor san just needs to basically animate all their motions and its even funnier because its just still frames of random photos of brett and eddy. photoshopped poorly. This is high quality content
*In a professional orchestra,* when a concert master makes a bowing change everyone gets it. You're always looking out for the front. If someone writes something in, what they write you make the change
*Youth orchestra*
"Stop! Hey guys, let's make this change on bar A-Z"
*Everyone* : ANYONE HAZ A PEN OR PENCIL
As a former ballet dancer (was non pro though, but I'm sure anyone who danced in any corps de ballet can relate), I feel you guys. Especially during Nutcracker season. As corps though, we had to play multiple roles (party guest, snow AND flowers for nut!) in a ballet so we had the added difficulty of memorizing multiple dances and blockings plus keeping track of multiple castings. Fun 😆😰
Had to do 8 shows in 6 days. One day break, next ballet. I remember one Principal in Le Corsaire doing Ali both in the matinee and then again in the evening one day.
Oof yea nutcracker season gives me ptsd...every time the music comes on I swear....
is nutcracker like the wonderwall of ballet?
@@marthlikinte5607 I think is like the Carmen of skating, or the Memory of Broadway, if that makes sense
*For NUT*
11:12 I just searched 'Dene Olding' and learned he's a distinguished violinist and concertmaster at SSO. Wow, to get picked by Dene to sub him as concertmaster must have been nerve-wracking and an honour.
Rustberry Brett is amazing. I may have read that he was also picked to sub Joshua Bell once, but not sure in what context.
@@heyytheree beat me LOL, I'm also in Singapore. But I have adjusted to SSO as Sydney Symphony whenever Twoset are talking about it.
@@heyytheree Here in the US we have two excellent pro BSO: Boston and Baltimore.
@@heyytheree Done and sorry!
Brett and eddy:40 hours a week
Twoset fan:wait, that's illegal
Why are you still here?
Go practice lah!
They may as well just play violin with a pick at this point.
@Just Sara, okay, but why? Just a little confused!😅
@@aeoniaxx I'm guessing it's because of their "war" with Davie504.. If you don't know him, he's a bassist who hates people playing bass with a pick, even says that it's illegal hahaha
@Priscilla JO, oh ok! Thank you!😁
Like your lah
The biggest question is: Does editor san also play an instrument?
cmiiw but I ever read editor-san wrote that editor-san plays cello but i couldn't recall which video T^T
Don’t know, but it seems editor San can sight read for violin at least
Sarah Azizah It’s Learning cello in one hour video
@@ajchandra7735 OMG right!! Thank you!
@aucune idee lel exactly what i was thinking
"Who's the most amazing musician you've ever played with?"
Brett: Eddy
Eddy: Brett
Me: AFBAKTNRODIFGNEWK
(edit: i kinda meant it in a friendship way but ok that works too)
🤣
i don't approve of that keysmash😂
Breddy
Is it just me or when I heard them say each other's names its was really weird because I'm not used to them saying each others names;;
this is so wholesome
I really love when they make serious videos like this, It's not just entertaining but educational as well 💖
I'm not even in professional orchestra, but my orchestra teacher at school always says "early is on time, on time is late, and late is unacceptable" lol
That's exactly what my dad says about every day life 😂
They say it in military too
Eddy: “I was very very very very very very shy”
But what about the Rite of Spring in public video?
All of the videos they've been uploaded on youtube tell otherwise, especially the lindsey stirling and rite of spring in public
Shy doesn't necessarily mean you don't do embarrassing things in public, it can also just be about interacting with people. My sister and I are very different - when I initially meet someone new, I'm often pretty shy (it's a lot better now than it was five or ten years ago, but still noticeable) but I have no problem walking or cycling through the streets, singing loudly - I don't care what anyone thinks. My sister is the exact opposite. She isn't shy with new people at all but she can't bear it if I start singing on the street (even quietly) because she feels embarrassed and she would never in a million years do it herself. So, tl;dr: there are different ways of being shy
I love it when a bit of Brett's Lofi is being played.
This video is so good. So much knowledge for those who are going to a professional orchestra
And so much knowledge for those of us that just want to understand what happens behind the scenes.
I love how brett said "we will answer your questions as honest as we possibly can"
like brett was 70% certain they were gonna sugarcoat some shimmies 😂
“I didn’t want friends.”
“I’m just here to play violin, leave me be!”
Brett is his own mood
As a young conductor myself, I am hopefull we will leave that old school model of the "yelling conductor" behind. You can know what you want, be asertive and get results without doing so, it just takes more personal work to reflect on how to best achieve that.
Yes! Do much of the status quo needs to be changed. I think that would encourage more people to join making and enjoying classical music.
Agreed :) it’s always good to have a balance between discipline and enjoying what you’re doing
@@zamadeapio9 absolutely! conducting as a profession is also relatively new ( lets say only about 150 years vs instruments that have been around way longer). So in a way its constantly developing and I already see the trend moving towards a more thoughtfull approach to leadership.
@@elize2952 100%! I dont know of any musician that went into their carreers without the intent of enjoying and sharing their love of music ( we are certaintly not choosing it to become millionaires XD). So while there needs to be discipline and hard work, it has to come back to a love and need to share music with others.
@@howimettheopera Wait, what? Orchestras didn't have conductors in the Baroque? Am music illiterate, pls explain
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Fortunately I had the pleasure of meeting Brett and Eddy during one of their shows and let me say they are so nice! Practice 40 hours a day Ling Ling wannabes! And also are any other Australians watching as soon as this was uploaded which was 11pm.
Im jealous
I can well imagine them being so nice. 😃
Yo being one of the dancers in ballets where we did two shows a day is just as hard I feel for the orchestra 👍
Hearing stories about their professional work is so fascinating for some reason. This is great!
I can't even relate since I'm not a musician but i just like the vibe of two people just talking about their professional experience and being chill about it
It feels nice
I still think about that time I went to the Sydney opera house and saw Brett, but I didn’t know who he was at the time and I cry about it to this day. (Cuz this is a video about orchestra and I watched him perform)
Question: did you have any pressure for the first time playing in the orchestra?
Eddy: *HOLD MY BEER*
*bubble tea 😋
I vote we hear some of these stories of conductors 'missing it', as Brett put it. You said there were so many instances. I'm intrigued...
I love it when Brett and Eddy share their experiences with us^^ Whether it's embarrassing or funny, I always finish their video with a smile on my face~
It was too adorable when brett and eddie chose each other for the most amazing musician that they've play with
"Who's the most amazing musician you've played with?"
Eddy: Brett
Brett: Eddy
✨Friendship✨
I will say, working with a professional orchestra, there tends to be FAR more maturity than with youth/college orchestras. That's something I greatly appreciated.
Who's the most amazing musician you've played with? (in orchestra)
Eddy: "Brett"
Brett: "Eddy"
Awwww
that was sooo cute ❤️😍
3:23 It will keep everyone sharp, and not flat...
Love u, TwoSet
Second?
Once I was 20 minutes late to a jazz band gig, because I couldn’t find the venue... I haven’t been called in since. 😂I LOVE these Q&A’s. Please do more!
Update: darn it, I never get here on time!!
Jazz band at my school only lasts for about 30 minutes after school so if that were me then there would be absolutely no point in going
Theresa Chacon RIGHT!! Sadly tho, I was late to the performance. so when i got there I silently rushed to my seat on stage, (was playing Bari so it was easy) and then the white clouds of hair in the audience laughed at my appearance. It was sooooo saddd and I cringe just thinking about it!!! I WISH IT HAD BEEN A REHEARSAL INSTEAD. I got a good $10 out of it tho
Eddy: I was very very very very very very very very shy
Me who can’t even talk to a cashier without being nervous: I feel you...
05:08
To be fair to yourself, talking to a cashier can be the weirdest thing ever. Sometimes you get a real human, then it's OK.
_days when we used to sightrea- uhh _*_*cough*_*_ p- practise all our parts, y-yeah_
And you realize Brett is the concertmaster
This video is proof that these guys have the right to roast people for bad playing.
2:06 just wondering if your TH-cam channel has day-offs at Monday and Tuesday because you are used to the orchestra schedule
ow wow i just realized
Imeilda Alafa Baina Disri When I watched it I immediately went like why is that so much like their video schedules 😂😂
@@kaerusakana9151 but recently they have day-offs from Monday to Wednesday☹
Imeilda Alafa Baina Disri I think only these 2 weeks? I remember them uploading videos on Wednesday 2 weeks ago 😂😂 Maybe they’re busy on something else, just let them take their time
@@kaerusakana9151 yea you're right. they don't always have to be sooo busy. take some rest and recover. it'll make them happier, more focused and more productive
Can we talk about how beautiful Eddy's new violin is
Petition to make part 2 of this Q&A
Never been in orchestra, but twoset has really made me want to try! 😄
Alt title: professional orchestra musicians experience flashbacks
question: 'who's the most amazing musician you've played with (in orchestra)?'
eddy: brett.
brett: yeahh eddyeveryone'sagreatmusician NEXT
I want to have a career in music because it’s something I’m really passionate about, but my parents always tell me how scary it can be to actually find a stable job in the music industry, so I got pushed back in this little shell of constant doubt that I’ll become homeless if I try to have a career in music, but twoset gave me some more confidence about being able to start one, even if I did start playing viola a bit later than others. I’ve played piano for 6 years and viola for 3. I love playing both and I love how twoset was able to give me some confidence in wanting to actually have a life that’s mainly something I love, music.
just an audible soft "aw" when they named each other as the greatest musician they've played in orchestra with... i know Brett said everyone's a great musician but that was very sweet XD like Eddy taking a beat of consideration before saying Brett's name, and Brett not hesitating either, and no goofing about saying each other's names like it's an embarrassing thing too...
It's so cool to hear your experiences! Sometimes I wish I had started playing the violin earlier, so I could have been a professional musician :(
Even though I started late (at 19) I'm still soooo glad I did it at all. I'm playing in an amateur orchestra and it's fun to compare your experiences in professional orchestras to my experience in an amateur one :D
Cool 😀
You guys should do a Q&A for playing in quartets.
This is a great video for someone outside of the music industry or not related to music. I love behind scene stories, and they are more interesting when told by you guys!
Honestly i could listen to you talking about this storys for hours...
Just started learning the violin! Thanks a lot guys for the motivation.
Nice keep up the work
It would be great if TwoSet can do a video series where they review youth orchestras' performances from all around the world. Nice way to introduce small and aspiring communities consisting of the upcoming generation of orchestra musicians out there!
“Coz we actually practice and do the music properly...”
Brett: *shuffles anxiously on the chair* laughs awkwardly
Orchestra story time would be dope
Story Time
When I was in orchestra before corona hit, my conductor heard the basses mess up, and made us all play the part INDIVIDUALLY, and I was scared as FUCK. For all you non musicians, when you get called out in orchestra, it’s feels much worse than it sounds. One of my old conductors would always roast the violins and violas, and make them play separately....and I fell asleep. Another time the cello teacher in orchestra was singing the part, and the amount of pressure put on us to not laugh...when we went on break I was laughing my ASS off!!! 😂😂😂😂
Edit: ohmygoodnesslikes-
Oh my god I hate when that happens. I'm in a choir and even when I know my part my voice will always come out a little squeaky every time this happens lolol >> vocal equivalent of shaky bow
TooLittleInfo lol there are FOUR basses in my orchestra. FOUR!! Last year my other conductor told the basses to play forte, but then told us we were to loud. SHE ALWAYS TOLD US TO PLAY SOFTER!!! EVEN IN OUR SOLOS!!! But she was funny I miss her
Oof
Cookie Comment ;-;
Oh... Its happens too in a choir. Pointing out in the mids of many, then choir conductor told you to sing a specific part, and all of the people inside will hear you. Out of pitch or on correct pitch.I feel you😂😂😂
About the question at 10:22:
In Germany strings and non-principal musicians get paid approximately the same. The concert master and the principal-strings (?I'm not certain what it's called) get paid a little extra. The principal wind instruments get even more, cause of the great responsibility they have to take... Then some orchestras pay you extra if your married, have children or/and live outside the city the orchestra is in. Also the orchestra pays you for your instruments repair and some orchstras even have the option of giving you a work-instrument. I don't now if that applys to every orchestra in Germany, but that's what I now
About being late: I had the chance to talk to a musician of the Vienna Philharmonic Orchestra about that exact thing. He told me the following: after the first time you'll be invited to a serious talk with the orchestra's management. After the second time there will again be a talk with management plus you have to pay a multiple of the amount of money you would have earned (for that rehearsal) as a punishment. After the third time you're out of the orchestra.
Do your "strikes" for being late reset after a certain amount of time? If so, after how long?
I watched Ballet performances before and I didn't know y'all orchestra musicians have it tough HAHAHA. Thank you for your hard work though!
For the first time in forever
Eddy: 40 hours a week
I have been binging twoset like anything since the last few weeks because I wanted to catch up on all the inside jokes and basic knowledge (not a musician lol) AND IT FEELS LIKE AN ACCOMPLISHMENT TO BE HERE WITHIN AN HOUR OF UPLOAD EEEEEEEEEEK
The flute in the GRILLED wind section ( 12:10 ) looks like a carbon instrument
Non-musician gang here and this is actually interesting. I like learning about other people’s work that are 180 degrees different than mine. Thank you for sharing.
8:56 FRIENDSHIP
This was fantastic, thank you! I loved hearing all about life in a pro orchestra! Your videos always make my day and inspire my violin students too! :)
I’m so early that Brett was still wearing braces
XDD
OSJSJSJS and eddy still had a mullet
th-cam.com/video/EmoZbQuAHoE/w-d-xo.html
honestly, the best commercial ever
Literally been watching a bunch of your videos today and just as I finish the Classical Conspiracies one I find you uploaded a new one - excellent timing 👌
8:48 they answered that so fast as if they wanted to skip it
As a violinist myself, that ballet part sure hit home... Love your work guys!
i played for a youth symphony for two years, and then i joined a professional orchestra when i was 13. WHAT A CHANGE! oh, and there can be a loooot of jealousy in an orchestra, too. but there are a lot of chill people. 😂
Sorry for being late, but how did you manage to get in?
How did you get in tho?
Here from future, March 2023. Congratulations for the achievement!
When they talked about being supportive and friendly in the Orchestra I really felt that.
I may not play in a professional orchestra and don't have that much life experience yet but so far, I can confirm what dad told me when I was nervous about joining an orchestra rehearsal for the very first time:
"Bad people are not musicians."
I played in different orchestras/ensembles/duos and up to this day I can say that all the musicians I met are incredibly nice people without exception. Sure, some do have a little attitude but they still care, put effort in it and have a good heart.
I must disagree. The musicians in a professional orchestra have practiced that instrument (strings) from 4-6 yrs old every day of their life. As they grow up, they will practice 5-8 hrs per day to get to the level that they can win an audition to get in an orchestra. Spending time alone playing on a box of wood every day by themselves for all of their lives has an effect on many (if not most) of them. Quite a lot of them are very mal-adjusted socially.
Cuties be enlightening us about working professionally in an orchestra. Truly love this wholesome content very much!
THEY ANSWERED MY QUESTION IM PEAKING OMGGGGG
My kids were SOOOO looking forward to seeing you guys... Hopefully next year is all good for your tour!
I love you guys. I started playing Viola when I was 10. I gave up and picked up a bass at 13. I still play bass, but a drum kit is my main instrument. I can now play 4 instruments and I'm a vocalist. Hate me if you choose. At least I practice.
I'm a bass player, but I don't slap. My experience started in classical music. I have nothing but love for twoset and all the LING LING wannabes.
Just wanna say thank you both for making these videos- right now I'm in Uni and I'm definitely going through a dark time where I'm just not practicing at all and this keeps me inspired to play music.
I really want two set to review or react to Mozart in the Jungle, there is a fair bit of dramatization of course because it’s for the general audience, but I think it does a pretty good job of straddling reality and dramatization.
I like it when battery's dead, editor-san putting some random thingies. AND MORE STORY TIME PLS.
*Literally* *every* *Twoset* *video*
No one:
Brett: please accent> the like button
Eddy: makes weird noises in the background
My heart goes out to orchestral musicians especially during ballet season. 💜
My guys, it’s literally 11:17 in vic, and I am meant to be asleep, because I have a mountain of work to do tomorrow, you cannot just dROP new content at this ungodly hour of night
Great video; I really enjoyed hearing about pro symphonies. I played violin (terribly) in youth orchestras and loved being part of it. Sold the violin for a plane ticket to graduate school, so living vicariously ever since.
Ahhh I bet half the questions after asked by asian kids who wanted to show their parents their stereotypes were wrong
Somehow I've always felt charm for orchestra musician's life. So I'm very enjoying this episode. Thanks :)
Brett + Eddy
= bffs 4eva
-Editor san
I have been binge watching twoset vids that I have missed, the first question they answered was from me AND IT TOOK ME 2 MONTHS TO SEE IT AHHHHH
I can totally relate to this as a Metal Guitarist!👍
Omg, Dutoit! I’m a Montrealer, and oh, the stories from the OSM... This was great! Please do more Q&As!
Hasn't he been under investigation for inappropriate behavior, to put it tactfully?
Helen Birch Goodness, that is terribly tactful way to say created and perpetuated an abusive work environment. 😂