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- A New York appeals court reduced former President Trump's bond to $175 million in his civil fraud case. New York Times' Sue Craig, former Assistant Manhattan District Attorney Catherine Christian and MSNBC national correspondent Yasmin Vossoughian weigh in.
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'No reason why' appeals court reduced Trump bond to $175m: Sue Craig
#Trump #CivilFraud #Politics
So which judges did they have dirt on?
Engoron has plenry. So has that judge on the Fanni Willis case.
Probably all of those judges have greasy palms
That’s what I said. Dirt or photos?
Exactly
All of them. Not an honest judge anywhere. Least not when it comes to the federal government.
DOUBLE STANDARD JUSTICE IN USA. SAD!
No is not
I agree. What about cashless bail for Trump .... hmmmm
Sence the beginning of time
TRUMP 2024 BABY!!!!
You are truly a disgrace making such egregious accusations when MSNBC negligently refuses to provide info why.
So if I get fined by the court for 454 dollars, I can insult the judge and prosecutor daily, call them crooked, then get the fine reduced to 175 dollars?
+ death threats
Nailed it!
Not you. No
Even as a Trump hater, I can see how stupid that analogy is! Nothing has changed wrt the $454M award; just the amount that has to be put up in order to appeal it! The award hasn't changed - it's STILL $454M with around 100K interest accruing daily!
I don’t expect to see trump pay a dime of that bond, let alone the full amount the judgment is for. Calling the analogy stupid was rude and pointless infighting- the sentiment behind the analogy is the frustration that we’re all feeling due to seeing this criminally-motivated danger to the world continue to get away with everything that he’s done. Now isn’t an appropriate time to be namecalling people who are on your team- we need to be united in our collective defense against trump and the maga threat. Save your arguing for after we’ve got the right wing lunatics de-fanged.
Not all judges are corrupted, but clearly some are
Right? Imagine trying to give Hunter Biden immunity for the rest of his life after catching him committing multiple felonies and lying on his taxes
Corrupt when you don’t agree with decisions. Shameful.
Judge Engormoron is definitely corrupt.
Engoron is completely corrupt.
Too many judges are corrupt 🤯🤮
The corruption is staggering.
Welcome to NYC . This sheet has been going on for a century .
The rich get special treatment while not doing their fair share, no wonder why things are like this really, we're still emerging from very primitive times.
Cry more lib
On the left, yes. It’s all you know. The myriad of cases are all garbage with the exception of Trump university. And in that case, Justice would demand he repay only what is owed.
It sure is. Election interference at its best. Democrats will do anything to destroy democracy
There is a reason: The system is COMPLETELY CORRUPTED!
So James is corrupt too?
Agreed, no way Biden shouldn't be charged just because he has lost his mental abilities
I can assure you that banks love Trump.
They make millions off of his loans.
All of which he has paid back with interest.
So yah... not sure why you would think Trump can't get the bond money. It will be returned with interest once this witch hunt gets tossed anyways. Trump has brought millions in taxes and created hundreds of jobs for the state of New York.
And all the TDSers can cry big salty tears of orange man bad.
Sad really.
Yeah 1 Judge Erogdan that harasses Women in his Gym is DEFINITELY Corrupt 😆
Indeed, these charges are politically driven.
Why isn't a court required to explain the reduction as a matter of public record?
They did….in the opinion they a bond that was 125% of penalty was illegal under the 8th Amendment
Why they didn’t want to admit that the bond was excessive, and that should’ve been explained and it wasn’t
Try to explain the fine in the first place and the amount. Please show your math too. I am waiting.
They reduced it because there is no actual fraud, victim or crime.
@@willthethrill8661 Should be reduced to ZERO
Because they are all corrupt. This thug belongs in prison
True
The first judge That gave the 454 million was corrupt as well🫢
And so does Biden, so does Fauci, so does Cuomo, so do both of the Clintons. If they can all walk the streets freely everyday without any fear of incarceration, why shouldn’t he be able to? 🤨
The two-tiered justice system is on full display. Why should anyone respect the law when it's not distributed fairly? The clear answer is that you shouldn't.
Why isnt every other real estate investor going thru this? Hypocrite
Lol the hypocrisy, so the original ruling makes sense to you but the reduction is unfair 😂 typical MSNBC viewer.
Butt hurt lol
Two tiered system indeed:
Sam Bankman-Fried conned 1 million victims Bond: $250 million
Bernie Madoff conned 40K victims, Bond: $10 million
Donald Trump, no victims, Bond: Half a billion dollars
@@SpaceMen508 The thing that doesn't make sense is, WHY did the court reduce the amount needed for a bond?? What was the reason??
Rich people get a pass, poor people go to prison.
Seems to me anybody who goes against the status quo will become a target...Rich, black, poor, or yt....
And dumb watch msnbs for news
You need to spend some time reading the transcript of the case.
ITS CALL THE CONSTITUTION NUMB NUTS, THE 8TH AMENDMENT APPLIES TO ALL. IF YOU WANT EQUAL JUSTICE STOP VOTING THE WAY YOU DO
WORD!
Check all of the judges offshore and onshore accounts as well as their freezers.
the real question is.. Where is the real media?
You seem to find reality elusive. Maybe you're overthinking this.
Don't expect too much of the media, which are populated by humans like you and me.
People in general tend not to be very reliable.
(Jeremiah 17:9) 'The heart is deceitful beyond all else, and is desperately sick; who can understand it?'
(Psalm 146:3) 'Do not trust in princes, in mortal man, in whom there is no salvation.'
The judges are corrupt af
You sound like you might cry
By following the constitution? Please explain.
Only the ones that disagree with you though, huh?😅
@@sergeant_saltyHe's probably sad that rampant corruption is working to keep a treasonous wannabe dictator from facing consequences.
Youre right but it was the one that ruled in the first place, you know the old grey smiling fool for the cameras.
"No reason why?" It's called corruption and bribery.
How James and the corrupt Judge found "fraud" when every party involved said there wasnt?
Then Joey and his son should be answering!!
Maybe threats?
Corruption from James and the judge on this case. I agree
😂😂 tell me where an not an MSDNC fascist talking point either, actual facts. Like how the bank that Trump supposedly defrauded said he was a great client and paid everything on time and they hope he comes back for more business but sure he defrauded them 😂😂😂. You have to be willfully ignorant at this point but go ahead I'll wait for you to list some facts.
Which justices decided this? IMPEACH THEM.
Trump is notoriously anti paying his bills...bad move judge.
He is still having to pay millions! You’re just mad because they can’t break him and your boy Biden doesn’t stand a chance.
He paid back every bank he took the loans from. You do not know what you are talking about.
Anyone with a functioning brain knows that $465 million on a CIVIL CASE BOND is absolutely unprecedented and insane. When are people going to wake up to this blatant political media targeting?
Is that why he paid for his loan in full off early? That doesn't sound like someone who doesn't pay his loans!
@Physics072 I agree 👍 NOT only did he pay them all off, but he paid it back sooner than agreed.
Why do rich people get to play by different rules?
Anybody else would already be in jail, and the sheriff would be hauling away all their stuff. This sucks.
Fkn A right.
Are you on benefits, paid by Democrats? Bought and sold?
This is why you vote blue
Because our founders were rich people.
@@MrWannabeartist"Are you on benefits, paid by Democrats? Bought and sold?"
Are you on tax cuts? Grifted to you by GOPs? Bought and sold? Oh, wait, only billionaires get GOP tax cuts anymore. But you'll keep hoping your party will pull you out of that hole you built yourself into.
It must be nice being above the law and never being held accountable for anything.
It never should have been brought to court
The Lawyer Class of the Rich all know they can cheat!
Just face it they've been lying to you. Most things they say about Trump are twisted
Learned it at daddy’s knee and mentored by Roy Kohn whose mantra was, LIE! Keep lying!! Sound familiar?
No you cannot say that. What has Biden been found guilty of? @@Pinthetic
I’m sure all the brown and black peoples sitting in jail or all other people with high judgement fine for lesser offences are saying; no way bro
how could you say that when the whole case is ridiculous in the first place…. trump should be fined a total of 0 dollars for this. 175 million is 175 million too much
Exactly what was the crime and who were the victims?
Banks always come up with their own valuation of properties, and the bank in this case did that. Then the loan was paid back to the terms of the loan.
I'm at a loss for why there is any crime here. Other than you all, watch this sh1tty media company and falling into the diversion and division tactics at play.
I read and watch an equal amount from both sides and it is so obvious something much bigger is at play driving a HUGE division between Americans.
@@Braylenc123 Madoff
Of course. The 'system' is quite relentless in the way it spoils rich brats, despite all the huffing and puffing about laying down the law. What baffles me more, though, is the support which DT seems to enjoy among working-class folks.
What are they thinking?
But then again, it would be very foolish for so-called 'progressives' that all the humbler folks share their in-your-face cultural radicalism.
Aren't you relying a bit too much on cultural stereotypes? Everyone knows that America has an ongoing problem with racism. HOWEVER many people of color have done very well for themselves, by the grace of God.
Also many 'others' (by which I assume that you mean Caucasoid types of European descent) inhabit the lower rungs of the economic totem pole.
I have seen such facts at close range, having lived in diverse, multicultural environments on this continent for many, many years.
In 10 days if trump don't come with the $175 millions ; will he gets another 60% discount and how more days more to get the money?
Yes Ms, Craig it is frustrating because while I have to pay the speeding ticket I incurred BECAUSE THE CAMERA AND THE TIMER CAUGHT ME GOING THIRTY TWO IN A THIRTY ZONE *( meaning they have proof)* it just never seems to be true in the life of the Orange Man-Baby!
Trump said a week ago, he has 500M
A week later, Appellate court says, nah, its ok, just pay 32%.
trump was lying no billionaire has 500 mil in cash, having more than 6 months worth of expenses is a losers game and invest in cash generating assets.
The reason they reduced it was because the whole law suit is dumb and nobody was hurt from what he did lol😂 Plus I just realized, that almost 9 times the amount of money that Biden. Biden🤡 poor really poor compared to Trump 🗿
You know it’s true if you like it or not lol 😂🤣
ITS CALL THE CONSTITUTION NUMB NUTS, THE 8TH AMENDMENT APPLIES TO ALL. IF YOU WANT EQUAL JUSTICE STOP VOTING THE WAY YOU DO
@@PBbaseballvr Your hero has no money, no conscience, and no soul. Karma's a b*tch and she takes time.
Guess there really is a separate judgment fir the rich. 😢
Exactly.
Yeah,, Trumps swamp on work...
Always has been
@@petercumiskey2746 - explain. Trump didn't break the law! The appellate court will overturn the original decision and will probably refer indictments for the judge and the AG.
Why do u think Hunter Briben is still free
Reason? No laws were broken, no victim, rule of law wasn't followed.
I wander how much , he paid to get his bond reduced so much! Crooked judges!!!
Everyone who is sitting in jail awaiting their appeal cause they couldn't afford their bond should be demanding their 62% Teflon Don discount !! Rise up. Whats good for one is good for all!!!
Demented lib 😂
It was civil court ya dunce
Cry more lib
This is a civil case…
Your right what’s good for one is good for all so the whole thing should be dropped just like everyone else and what’s good for everyone except the Bidens , you keep preaching cause it will all change and the Bidens will be in jail
If he had to pay the 5 why didn't he have to pay the 175 TODAY?!?!?!?! Especially being it's next to nothing for him?!?!? An average hardworking American would have had EVERYTHING stripped from them the same day woth no grace.....smh....The world we live in.
He appealed. The law allows you to appeal the judgement and time.
We're not a dictatorship. We go through a process.
No one judge can just put a huge amount of penalty on you and you have no recourse. We are a system of laws.
NOT a one judge dictatorship.
We are a liberal country. A republic. Not Russia, or Cuba or Venezuela where they do this to people.
Like if it ever happened to you or me, we'd want appeals to see if the judgement was too harsh or unfair, etc. In whatever case we could be involved in.
It protects the people.
The fact that lawfare can be used against Trump is exactly why you should be outraged. They can impose astronomical legal fees to you too if you step out of line or have opposing political beliefs. The average person should be terrified.
I'm guessing you've never heard of the 8th Amendment, let alone the concept of due process? SMH... the world we live in.
The average man is not persecuted by the corrupt using fabricated allegations as much as Trump is when election campaigning to be president.
You sound like you might cry😢
They should throw out this ridiculous fares.
When a US court make a opinion decision without any explanation how they got to that opinion is when justice breaks down into anarchy.
They don't owe you an explanation
@@jimmyjames6487 They actually do. That's literally how our justice system works.
Like a decision to charge Trump $464M just to APPEAL?
Our Judicial System is bought and paid for. All judges should be elected and not appointed.
THEM JUDGES GOT PAID UNDER THE TABLE!!!°
There are people in jail right now for way less 😮
No there's not
Steal a trolley of food from a supermarket and you could be in trouble. Trump has lived high on the hog for 80 years or so, and is still given massive wriggle room.
He's going to JAIL, PERIOD. @@paulmcgaha1458
@@paulmcgaha1458 Yes there absolutely is considering Trump is quite literally the biggest threat to US democracy since the mid 1800s.
Way less than being a fine upstanding America loving patriot?
Someone is getting paid (off). The corruption in this country is equal to any if not worse.
OUTRAGEOUS AND DISGUSTING that tRumpo gets a break that NO ONE ELSE gets on appeal bond.
Yeah. All the others of us that gets half a billion usd fines need to pay up every cent. Sad.
It’s a nod that the appellant courts see how disproportionate and evidentially weak the original judgement was, very likely the whole case will be dismissed on appeal. In this event James and Engoron should be scrutinised, are they fit and proper people for the important positions they hold?
Have you ever been ordered to pay 454 million dollars? Which amendment protects a person from that? The eighth amendment protects against imposing excessive bail, excessive fines or cruel and unusual punishment. Thank the constitution for that
Who appraised his failed "truth" social so high that his shares are worth $3 billion? It sounds like more financial fraud to me. No way the entire company is worth this much, let alone his shares only. Where is the IRS?
What kind of expertise do you have in tech company valuations that you know it’s not worth $3 billion? Let me guess, you also think Mar A Lago is only worth $18 million right?
Nobody did an appraisal, that's just what the shares are trading for on the public market. I think the investors are crazy giving it that kind of valuation but it's their money to lose.
Agree, you can tell when frump is lying is lips r moving! He doesn’t have what he says - he is a fake millionaire 😂
The stock in the company that merged with Truth Social dropped by 14% upon the merger.
@@Georgieboy1776He knows more than you dum azzes that don't understand that Trump himself made that estimate of Mar a Lardo to avoid taxes. Also, it's zoned only as a club, not a residence which he is currently violating. Which lowers the value. So you're the id I ot. Not the commenter.
The double standard for regular people (not people on the take) is becoming glaringly obvious. They don’t even try to hide the grease on the palms anymore.😡
IT IS NOT A DOUBLE STANDARD THE "PEOPLE" SHOULD ARGUE IN COURT BETTER
ITS CALL THE CONSTITUTION NUMB NUTS, THE 8TH AMENDMENT APPLIES TO ALL. IF YOU WANT EQUAL JUSTICE STOP VOTING THE WAY YOU DO
Yeah democrats don’t even get charged and the whole system goes after Trump. Yes, the double standard is crazy- the system at work.
Yep,Biden crime family,are very bold! That’s why they’re being exposed!! Sloppy,sloppy!!!
The money the Biden family received for influence peddling
The total amount from Romania to the Biden family and their associates is over $3 million.
The total amount from China, specifically with CEFC and their related entities, to the Biden family and their associates is over $8 million.
The total amount from Ukraine to the Biden family and their associates is $6.5 million.
The total amount from Russia to the Biden family and their associates is $3.5 million. Isn’t that the double standard what about Biden’s time in court.
😂😂😂😂
How can one court over rule a judgement ???
What a joke. What corrupt justice. 😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣
Two tier system of justice. One for regular people who don’t have money, and then one for the rich and elite who can get whatever they want.
By Trump having a grossly overweighted bond he's getting whatever he wants?
This is true. You must get the money. Money is power. 💪🏽
@@BLOXKAFELLARECORDS But he is claiming DOES NOT have the money
💯
Regular people? you means slaves.
I am so sick and tired of the law bending all over the place for this freaking crook.
You can always move to Canada
joe bends the whole populous more and more everyday
@jimmyjames6487 lol good one. We hear that every year 😂 I'm trying to figure out what law was bent here in the first place which was referenced
OMG, you’re such a cry baby. Why don’t you cry some more you cry baby. They have accused this man of literally thousands of crimes, and he’s yet to be found guilty on one single charge. I take it you never heard the story “The boy that cried world?” How many times are you going to believe them until you realize you’ve been played like a fiddle? Get a clue dude.
What has he stolen?
175m "parking ticket" eh ? Makes me glad I don't drive 😁
How many of the appellate judges were appointed by his administration?? Wouldn't that appear to be an impropriety if they were, especially considering the ruling???
none. get you some education please.
@@timg2973 I agree, we need some education, we need to know who they are, who they are sleeping with, have they ever received money from a trump company, we need to know a lot of things about these people.
@@timg2973 Most of all we need to know why they made a special exception for the rabid orange raccoon, why they didn't treat him like everyone else.
@@timg2973 Most of all we need to know why they didn't treat the rabid orange raccoon like everyone else, why did they make an exception for him after all we are supposed to be equal under the law.
@@timg2973 Most of all, we need to know why he was treated different than everyone else, they must justify it legally or there could be legal consequences. We need to know what their legal findings were. We need to learn a lot about this. The appearance of impropriety is not allowed, and this definatly appears to be improper, just the appearance of impropriety can get judges removed from the bench and or sanctioned in other ways as it undermines the legal system and is detrimental to it's legitimacy. This is what it looks like when judges take a bribe, which is criminal, and actionable. That could explain why he doesn't pay his lawyers, if he is cutting out the middleman and paying the judges.
Time to clean house of these judges who are aiding this clown.
Proof of there is a different set of laws for the rich.
America, the land where you can rob people and banks blind and so long as you're successful at that you'll be just fine. I'm not a criminal but if I were I'd migrate to the States. Gangster's paradise.
I agree, time to remove all those Democrat appointed judges. If you had a brain you would realize what a gift the appeals court just gave to the Democrats.
Yes, I agree, get rid of Engoron.
@@eczuni-ix4ry Engoron stood up to a long-term criminal. The appeal board failed to uphold justice
Or at least the "claims-to-be-rich."
If a normal person couldn't pay a 5k bond, they'd be in jail or they take your assests. This is disgusting.
Sam Bankman-Fried conned 1 million victims
Bond: $250 million
Bernie Madoff conned 40K victims, Bond: $10 million
Donald Trump, no victims,
Bond: $500 million
@@ChromeLinedOriental they dont like facts. Dont waste your time. This is a leftoid channel.
This was not a criminal case, it was civil trial you do not go to jail on a civil case even if you never pay. @x2foreyou
Sickening, just sickening
No reason? Have you ever heard of judicial malfeasance?
The court bends over backwards for him and he STILL whines. Since he was supposed to be ready with the full amount TODAY, why give him any extra time at all? Ten days?
with a 60% discount...
Someone took a bribe .
Not a commie leftist judge who applied the 8th Amendment?
Trump will win his appeal, the average American (and many Democrats as well) do not like the lawfare they see, it is cheating
You have only made Trump stronger
Keep it up
....& a HUGE discount!
Cry harder
The woman with the glasses is the very definition of "Cat Lady" 😆
How disheartening. Our system is rotten to the core.
ANOTHER SHAMELESS EXAMPLE OF A BIAS COURT!!!!
The American injustice system has always been a joke
I'd say "no", they have good attorneys, but that's not true either.
That's what the majority of voters have been saying since 2020. Trump is president 2024 without doubt.
Nope,supreme court did their job perfectly!! They’re there to keep people like you all in line!!! Period!!🤡
Exactly
Reminder: The greatest threat our nation has faced in the last 150 years remains free to play golf, rather than in a prison cell where he belongs.
Our institutions have failed us.
trump isn't arguing he's innocent, he's arguing he has the right to be a criminal
you are very sic, get help
100%
I didn't know Joe played golf. He certainly is president (Be honest, he is just a puppet).
What about 911?
Does 175 million sound like a "Parking Ticket"
To a man who claims to have tens of billions of dollars, yes.
Who is bribing these judges????
Must be Putin!!!😂
Trump is unstoppable
Scriptures say the Antichrist will be for a time@@sergeant_salty
Trump, of course. It's cheaper than paying what he owes.
@@sergeant_salty Only up front cash was reduced. He literally lost the election bozo, he's gonna lose again.
@@diamondlion47 Right that's why you Dems are trying everything to remove him because he's losing Delusional they are in a panic because Trumps got the PEOPLE and the PEOPLE got the Power
Justice system?
Sickening & disgusting!!! No one else would get that much off.
Name one person that paid that much ever
It's only the bond. It's not the actual judgment.
Indeed!!!
I don't thank there's ever been anyone has crooked as trump befour.😂
Cry white liberal racist cry lol😅😂😂😂😂😂
Laws are made for poor people.
That's why you vot blue.
The money the Biden family received for influence peddling
The total amount from Romania to the Biden family and their associates is over $3 million.
The total amount from China, specifically with CEFC and their related entities, to the Biden family and their associates is over $8 million.
The total amount from Ukraine to the Biden family and their associates is $6.5 million.
The total amount from Russia to the Biden family and their associates is $3.5 million. Isn’t that the double standard what about Biden’s time in court.
@@belindahorne9127 Your ignorant hate is why you can't even spell the word "vote" - or see your mistake and edit the post. Crawl back under your rock, Karen.
@@belindahorne9127You literally just proved exactly as to why people vote “blue” rather than “red”. Those who vote “red”, lack any form of cognitive function or common sense.
Imagine not being able to spell “vote”…🥴
What law?
Kick it back up! The "merger" gives him "more than enough" to cover the original order! DO IT!!!
I don't know what is crazier, the justice system or Trump.
Democrats.
Shush, Igor. Nobody wants to hear from a Russian troll. @@pissedoffcanuck6557
Great point
You white liberal racist are
YOU
Outrageous. Tell me again that there's no two tier justice system in the US.
This makes the 2-tier system TRANSPARENT AS FLUNK. Like... if anyone ever had any doubts at all, this... THIS... puts 'em to rest once and for all. Never again could anyone claim otherwise. It's ironclad proof and immutable verification. Even if it were reversed, we'd all know that it was done to buy more time, get more corrupt conspirators in corrupt pockets, and to stick it HARDCORE to the entire world (not just U.S. citizens).
Hmmmm well lets see, he repaid the loan, with interest and no one LOST money. So you tell me how their was a crime committed. Valued Mar a Largo at 18 Million? Really? That's a CRIME in itself.
No crimes committed
Are you talking about the oligarchy? Because Trump isn't on the oligarchys pay roll. That's why they're going after him so hard. You must be thinking of Biden and the rest of the fascist warmongering DNC.
Yes, it is outrages. Just think how the normal citizen gets railroaded. If they can prosecute him for nothing, the regular guy does not have a chance.
He makes me sick !
Wondering why? The fix is in. That is why.
What legal basis could the appeals court have applied to lower the bond?? Why is it NO ONE else can use the "I can't afford that amount" defense????
Nobody else has ever been hit with a 400 million dollar bond.
Tell me you're brainwashed without telling me you're brainwashed
Anyone can use that defense
Maybe they read the 8th amendment
They can actually. Happens all the time.
He gets the bond reduced and then braggs how much money he has!!!! Why is he getting special treatment!!
Main reason they reduced it was because it was grossly excessive to begin with.
Because, Hunter Biden.
If you really can't see the reason you really are dumber than two red bricks!
Just say his getting Hunter treatment.
It's infuriating 🤬🤬🤬🤬
The woman with the Frankenstein hairdo looks so bitter and offended (by the ruling?). Priceless!
No reason? It's called justice & civil rights.
Proving once again justice is elusive in America.🤨
It's like capturing a handful of clouds .
Justice is optional, depending on wealth/influence
Reeees
Justice for one... NOT FOR ALL!!!
@@mandtgrant - Trump did nothing wrong. Tell me what he did! Do you even know? 😆 🤣
Why!? Trump has declared he has the money
What does how much money he has to do with you and I'll guess you were happy when he didn't
Because NY doesn’t want it going to the Supreme Court, as they will throw it out. How embarrassing for NY and how embarrassing for dems.
Apparently, the law is different for him.
Commi go home to China or get a GED and learn the 8th amendment in a civics course
@@jesse_- What? The SCOTUS wouldn't touch this.
More court corruption
Dirty money! 💰 thieves!!
I like Presidents who don't get court judgments of hundreds of millions of dollars against them.
for imaginary crimes. Shameful.
@@SydBaron Imaginary crimes that two of his lawyers have already pled guilty to. 😮😂😅
@@barrysaintthomas6267 It's just a dumb troll, don't bother..
@@barrysaintthomas6267But has President Trump himself plead guilty.
Answer: No.
because President Trump is innocent.
Rip you lost. TRUMP 2024
@@barrysaintthomas6267 Imaginary crimes re this latest garbage in New York.
Did the appeals justices take him out for hamburders after the ruling?
Nope, before!
They didn't even bring it to him in the interrogation room like the one they claim went through the drive thru.
This is what happens when you bring frivolous unheard of fines for taking out approved Bank loans
Yes he has the money to pay for them
Why???
That shows how terrible the courts are doing things that are disgusting
Because they didn't agree with you? Lol
@@ghostfifthright they knew how outrageous that amount was and they did something about it
Typical hypocrite Democrat just because you didn’t get your way. Keep that same energy with the Biden crime, family and the rest of the corporate Congress that work for you.
Are you referring to 💯 left wing New York court system??? 😂😂😂
@@ghostfifth Trump is winning! 3.5 billion worth on truth social alone lefty's are making Trump wealthier again! hahahaha.
Exactly the judges should be required to give an explanation WHY! As the current US Supreme Court has the lowest approval rating of all time and now the NY Appeals Court appears to enable this supposedly rich defendant who has shown nothing but contempt for the courts and claimed to have the money to pay the $454 million bond only leads people to question the courts motives. Are they legitimate?
Have you ever thought about why the founding fathers gave scotus lifetime appointments?
Pretty sure the decision was based on "cruel" or quite likely "unusual" fine... You know like the 8th amendment to our Constitution states. Sorry you weren't aware this was going to be the outcome. But MSM again gets everyone riled up to their narrative instead of actually reporting what was to be the likely outcome of the appeal.
No legitimate reason whatsoever
The question is why was he ordered to pay anything when there was no fraud?
@@micclayThey gave the justices life time appointments to protect then from partisan pressure and to serve during "good Behaviour". Using their position to enrich themselves by catering to partisan benefactors, aka Thomas and Alito, is why the founders also included the impeachment clause.
It shouldn’t have been that high in the first place
He's probably going to whine that even this amount is too high when the deadline comes.
Talk about a miscarriage of justice! I am sick of the American justice system bowing down for Trump. They should be ashamed of themselves! They must really like the idea of America becoming a dictatorship because they sure as heck are helping him evade any consequences for his lying and cheating .
Lol , or maybe you can simply realize that you have been lied to by MSM....
America is an experiment in democracy. Experiments fail.
WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA Yu people are Hypocrites.
same justice system in Canada, that allowed my psychopath brother to decimate our family. Disgraceful. He's another one that should not be allowed to be free in public. Drumpf should be in a cell, with a mask over his face like Hannibal Lecter and never allowed out again.
No it’s not a miscarriage of justice. It’s just how the process works.
Bullspit! Tragedy of justice
The communist Democrat
Keep crying😂😂
Justice prevailing against tyranny.
Not.
U big dummy
@@sergeant_salty It will be overturned. Another maggot judge
...utterly unbelievable ...totally let's down the people's expectations or treatment ...ordinary people don't get this treatment from the law :(
The appeals court reduced the corruptible ruling from the lower court!!
So if I commit blatant crimes in the future and refuse to pay I can get a 60% discount? Or does this discount only apply to politically powerful domestic terrorist?
What crimes were committed by Trump to justify 454 million dollar bond? Banks testified the agreed to the loans and was paid back in full plus interest…
💀💀🤣🤣🤣you just talking outta your azz huh CRYYYYYYY
@@Bam_Bam_Bam_BamIf you gotta ask then the answer isn’t for you, go look it up, fraud is fraud, so what the banks got THEIR money, they should be investigated too, NEW YORKERS didn’t get THEY cut though. But keep on thinking he’s innocent, just makes you look foolish and down for the Vaseline apparently.
@Bam_Bam_Bam_Bam your arguing with a bunch of brainwashed losers. Let them cry in their salty tiers.
@Bam_Bam_Bam_Bam that's completely incorrect, in fact, he hasn't paid nearly $287 million that's owed back to lenders
Judges need to be required to explain themselves.
175 is still way out of bounds and ridiculously high
Peanuts for a man who says he has many billions of dollars.
Here’s a reason: the previous amount was rubbish.
Except it wasn't 'rubbish'! This decision simply reflects how courts CAN be reasonable without compromising justice! Trump can now throw away more money getting a still massive Bond for n appeal that won't change the fundamental result!
Well that's proof then. There's no reason for Joe Average to pay a bond. None at all. Simply cite this case and, if courts are consistent, it'll be reduced to meaninglessness.
They won't give the same judgement.
Most states don't give themselves the power to sue individuals on behalf of a third party, NY is unique in that concept.
True, it sets a favorable precedent for the rest of us lowly serfs.
No bank in the state of NY wanted him prosecuted. Think about that. The only people going after him was the DA's office. If you think that makes sense then oh well.
Making that argument will most certainly yield you a larger financial burden than simply paying the bond that you would be required. That was the whole point about how ridiculous this was.
James needs to flip the script and appeal this verdict.
Copeland full of tears
💀💀🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣✋
She will lose and the judge will drop it further
Deranged Leticia James needs to go to jail😂😂😂
Look at all the racists and traitor worshippers triggered here
Maybe because the fine was unreasonable and un just. They are only taking out the political position.
Why!? Trump has declared he has the money!
CORUPT APPEALS COURT
indeed
yes but he has also declared he is not giving it to you, go get a job
@@chronosschironHow is the appeals court corrupt? What does the 8th Amendment say?
Because it’s the law, it’s the 8th amendment they don’t need to answer msnbc questions, they act stupid. You shouldn’t have to be forced to pay an astronomical fee to have right to appeal. Love when Dems have no legal brains when they want to
Justice doesn’t matter, it must be nice to be able to do whatever you want with no consequences. 😡
It really is.
Yep, see how the Clintons and Bidens got treated.
Like the biden crime family?
Seems the trick to get out of stuff Appeal, Appeal, Appeal.....
Can the people of NYC sue the State? Oh wait, they can. Grab your lawyers, people.
Would ANY other person with a history of breaking agreements, bad-faith, and committing fraud get such treatment after publically stating that they have the cash? What is wrong with these judges?
$$$$$$
He didn’t do shlt!!!
What agreement was broken? Provide one example where he defaulted on a loan and the bank took legal action.
Bought and paid for judges.
@@kanyeezy209 If you claim higher values for better loan treatment, by law you must (MUST) claim that same value for taxation. Trump showed high value for loans and then claimed low value for taxation. He owes the people in the counties where his properties are located for the difference in the property tax he would have paid at the higher value vs lower value x # of years + penalty and interest. It's been the law for more than 15 years (Maybe 24?). You don't get to claim something is worth 300Mil for loans and then tax at 18mil for property tax. That's cheating, not "good business".
This is now New York case law. I encourage every civil defendant before the New York appellate courts to cite it, repeatedly. There is now no reason why anyone should be required to post more than 35% of any judgement as bond to appeal. By bending to Trump, they tear holes in their own system, and there is every reason to take advantage of it.
Excellent point!
You stole my reply,,,lol. But it is accurate as this is an appellate court. This will be cited.😊😊😊
How did they come up with 454 million? Can someone direct or tell me how that was calculated.
Thank god the ADULTS stepped in!
Why don't you use some of your cash to pay your lawyers rather than ask the American people to pay it??
I love to pay for Trump just like demonrat like to pay for Potato Head
Dems are just so mad their lawfare didn't work. No one else would have been prosecuted over this because no laws were broken.
He would love to use his money on camp?, He has not spend a dollar of his own money.
Cult pay it all for you, even your lawer fee, what a looooossser
He didn't asked u so why complaining
This is a two-tiered justice system. Anyone else would have to pay the full amount. Right now I am ashamed to be an American.
You voted for Joe Biden that's embarrassing
Move out of the country and prove to us how ashamed you are.
@@AZTUC_520 psst - you have an orange ring around your mouth.
I have been ashamed/embarrassed of my fellow Americans since that big orange TURD started winning primaries.
I am not ashamed to be an American, I am ashamed as a retired attorney of our legal justice system, which has failed the majority of Americans time after time after time when it comes to crooks and traitors like Donald J. Trump.
Easy to predict!
At the end of all this, he’ll owe what he is about to put up in appeal. Nothing more, nothing less.
Trump didn't even have an argument. All he had was "This is unprecedented" and he STILL gets a free ride. This is predictable but pathetic.
It is not unprecedented. There has been many, many bonds posted larger than this, much larger in fact.
@@billsoderholm3125so obviously political persecution🎉🎉🎉🎉
Name one
This is unprecedented. Cite me another case where someone's bond is nearly half a billion dollars for a victimless crime.
He been playing with the justice system for years and this nothing new what I tell you go ask judge have They been to his party and they own him because some funny business is going on poeple know it my opinion
This is absolute BS. Courts don't reduce bond for any of us. The rest of us serve time if we can't afford bond. Rich guys don't have the same type of law the rest of us do. It's plain wrong.
You are really dumb he was not convicted of a crime, they could not put him in jail if he never paid anything.
There is a two tied justice system in our country. One for the rich, one for the rest of us.
Apparently you don’t need to really be rich….just claim to be for decades while you borrow borrow borrow!
But I thought he didn’t have the money? How can you live with yourself knowing that you’re a huge hypocrite? Its gotta be tough
Cry more lib
One for Hunter and Joe and Hillary, then there are the rest of us.
Yea, the poor stay in jail while they wait on all this to turn out. The rich don’t go to jail during appeals.
They lowered it because they would get exposed if he took it to the Supreme Court.
The whole case will be thrown out before it gets to SCOTUS.
Big money has sure been changing hands - no surprise here.