Full 3D Character Workflow Explained - Sculpting, Retopo & Textures
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- In this video tutorial, we cover all the steps from start to finish when it comes to making a CG character for film and games. We cover concept sculpting, retopology, uvs and texture painting in Substance Painter.
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I am watching from the future and.... you can paint across Udims in Substance Painter!!!! :D :D :D
what is Udims?
@@Neilien Udims are like layers for UV's, except they are next to each other instead of stacked.
usually, you are only able to texture within one UV block right? with Udims you can spread it over multiple blocks, which was always fine for separate meshes and materials but now you can smoothly paint from one Udim to the next in the viewport like some mad digital painting genie
Me too brada
In which version?
I am from even further in the future and Adobe has decided that users should be so complacent, so removed painting across UDIMs... also AI rules over the world, Elon Musk has gone bonkers and 99% of 3D artist only do furry stuff
I am from future.. currently war is going on and I am standing in front of russian soldiers..... I am asking them for shelter and food from them but they refuse.. but i know the closest bakery shop soo i asked one tank pilot to give me lift they gave me lift... And i arrived bakery shop i found some bread but it was dark and cripsy i don't know who baked it russian or Ukraine.... DAY 1 END....To be continue
Im from future and im standing infront a tech support scammer
Hi my teachers i just want to say i love you
I really appreciate how you guys talk about realistic approaches to the process in actual production. Thanks for sharing your knowledge with us. It's super helpful and appreciated.
My Monday are much better with every flipped normals video on my morning. Thank you for the job your are putting into.
#BackToTheGrass
This is the video I've been trying to find
I can look up how to do any individual part, I wan't to know the process.
Needed something like this. Cheers guys.
Thank you guys for all the work you put into these vids! Honestly you guys are the only solid source on TH-cam that answers all of these really specific questions for us beginners! Just bought a bunch of your premium tutorials, keep up the great work!
Helpful Exclusive Tutorials
How to Retop a Full Character
flippednormals.com/downloads/how-to-retopologize-a-full-character/
UV Mapping Characters
flippednormals.com/downloads/uv-mapping-characters-25-off/
Concept Sculpting for Film & Games
flippednormals.com/downloads/concept-sculpting-for-film-and-games/
I want to know the folder arrangement/organization system for big projects. Great video by the way.
17:15 retopo
that is the best intro i have ever seen, thank you.
Thank you Alexander!
Basically in the AAA industry, the usual workflow is you need these three expensive software just create this. Oof. Meanwhile you can do pretty much all of this in Blender alone. After seeing what Blender 2.8 can do im so annoyed I still have to stick with fuckin Maya just for work.
When you can manage a model with 100 udims with 8k maps for every material in Blender, we will talk about it
Ruok
Just because you do low end crap that doesn’t require top of the line software doesn’t mean the rest of us are at that low level too. Use your garbage and stfu.
@SkyAlps Blender lacking in so many aspects? In aspects of what? Lol... In terms of UVs, Retopo, nurbs and fur I find those are just as easy in both Maya 2018 and the Blender 2.8. In fact in Maya I use Yeti instead of Xgen for fur and hair. I use Vray instead of Arnold. I use Marvelous Designer to create realistic cloth and then import back to Maya. If wanna do some composite vfx, I have to open After Effects because Maya has no video tools. I wanna do some real-time renders in Maya? nope, gotta go to UnrealEngine4 or Marmoset. Meanwhile Blender has Eevee which is amazing if you wanna create your own 3D shortfilms. Maya in its core is not user friendly at all. Meanwhile in Blender I can do all of these things in one package - modelling, sculpting, texturing, simulation, rigging, animation, vfx and I can easily achieve photorealism if I want to. It's not a cult, you gotta look it up yourself. Blender 2.8 is currently way ahead of Maya 2018. Their animation and rigging tools are better than ever. Grease pencil and vector displacement are gonna be game changers. Normally we would hear about Maya 2019 by now, but theres none. Because they're trying to catch up with the rest. I was taught Maya back in Uni but it always felt limited, and I was right. Maya is the one that is lacking in so many things nowadays. Maya is only good for modelling and rigging now and not much else. So many people I know ditched Maya for Houdini to create simulation and fx. Maya's motion graphics tool - MASH is also pathetic compared to Cinema 4D and Blender. Not to mention the Maya community is fucking dead and its hard to find free tutorials.
stop being a shill please thanks
@@ruok3351 Yep, it'll take awhile or studios to trust a free software when Autodesk has been gouging people for so long and people are used to it.
Blender really isnt limited as much as some of the people in here have said, some things said are accurate, but I use it for characters and assets and only limitation I've found (besides the UDimm situation) is that Nvidia goes after people legally if they try to create plugins to do things like Nvidia Hairworks and other technologies. I'm guessing Autodesk is scared of Blender and pays Nvidia to not support free open source software.
Look up the Unreal forum post "Hairworks exporter for Blender", Blender can do everything you need for their special technology to work but they legally threatened the guy (even though theres nothing illegal about his plugin), luckily even though they did this someone mirrored his plugin and you can still get it.
"no no no, painter support udim!" Prophets in the video :D
Hi guys, could you potentially cover smaller details like texturing the eyes and teeth and switching between them and the main mesh on painter? It's just a small part of the process I'd like to understand better. Thanks.
It's just a separate subtool
Thank you so much for this series, it's so helpful and clear! The discussions are hilarious and it makes everything much less daunting!
Blender, all in one.
Jack of all trades, master of none
All the blender fanboys need to chill a bit , blender is ok , I mean it is a really cool package where you can do everything in an almost professional level for free but it just isn't industry standard for many reasons .
Is it common to mirror for example the hands on the uv map to save space and give the face for example more uv space? Im talking about game design.
First guy says something.
Second guy *literally repeats* what the first guy said in different words.
Repeat.
Incredible! This helps connect the dots to appreciate what people go through in the actual flow to bring out beautiful images on the big screen! It also gives a view into the characters' life cycle before it matures to act out in a scene!!!!
Thanks a lot! Really appreciate it Alkesh :)
love your content. great channel. typo in the thumbnail for this video: "Charcter". Thanks for all the amazing free content.
You guys are great to watch and hear. I bought 2 tutorials a couple days ago. I feel like I grasp more knowledge from you two then I did in school 🤦🏾♂️🤙🏾
Fantastic! That makes us very happy
3d full character workflow cinematic realstic pls is possible future step by step hair cloth probs all are realstic maya zbrush substance marvellous software used needs
Lol, GTX 980 Ti a high end Graphics Gaming Card. The times.
33:32
Actually wrap is out for zbrush, and the annual license is 50% off just today ! Go get it guys :D
Where is the wrap feature in zbrush? Is there a tutorial out?
Fantastic. Every video I get more inspired. My main goal is modeling/sculpting, but everything looks great to be done makes me want to inject knowledge with a syringe. A question, could one start the modeling in Maya/Max and then export to ZBrush?
Yes, absolutely!
You could say for example, model your base mesh in Maya and then export it as an OBJ into ZBrush so you can start sculpting on it. The reason many artists prefer to start with Zbrush is because it allows for a more organic creativity right at the start as the character is being designed - Then worry about the technicalities/retopo later.
Cheers! Great video guys. explaining whole process beautifully. At one point I'm lost though. You said and I know that Substance Painter doesn't support multiple UV maps on single model. That's why I always use a single UV map or multiple parts for single model. But in this video you guys create multiple UV maps and import it on Painter and Painter behaves like it's a single UV map. So is there an additional step I'm not aware of or what?
guys I love your videos, I have a question is really difficult to find a proper workflow for fur and hair, I mean you can find a lot of tutorials of how to make fur and Hair and that's not the real problem BUT there's almost no information about the proper placement in a production for fur and hair, for exmaple in maya if you make the fur in the hero character file, when you reference such character it looses the fur... the workflow I am doing right now is making the fur and hair in the render scene and export the ptex and groom information in case I need fur or hair in other render scenes, I find this wrong but is the only way I have found. thank you.
Hi,
at 17 minutes and 25 seconds you talk about a program. I can't understand the name. Please can you write it down.
Thanks for your help.
Gianni
Found you guys channel recently, love it btw and really enjoy listening to your podcasts when sculpting, etc. Thanks for all the advice and work you guys do!
Thanks a lot! Really appreciate it :)
But Dan, my client, especially those from Japan won't give me time to properly make one!
I'd love to take my time but they always give me work a month before shooting.
Great Video! So when you are doing a hero character for film, you paint the low poly retopo mesh? What if you do a high end detailed character like Godzilla, i think then its necessary to see how the displacement map deforms the mesh to paint all the little details, right?
Breaks links
Great video!
Anyone happen to have a reference to a cracked version of Substance Painter , broke @$$ student here :)
I don’t understand how you put together the high and low poly model…. How that whorks? Any help, thanks
I am looking forward to seeing this Painter tutorial... I still need to figure out how to view displacement maps.
36:11 that’s me face when I first see the light after a 12h game of thrones marathon
That was my face after season 8
I just spend the day retopologizing at work a sculpt I also did xD Displace and normals from zbrush work great so time for some substance painter!!! So kind of good timing x)
hello, why retopology and not just export the lowest subdivided model?
I find that most problems with instructions are that the person writing the process has a perfect understanding of a great process but presumes that this means they know how to "teach".
Cool! Thank you for tutorial ;) really professional!
Does zbrush support udim? I thought only mari supported it.
cool retopo is my nemesis
i um was not aware - i retoppod after I finished the final model but it worked out fine thankfully 😅
Thank you so much for this video. There is so much to learn here. 😄
holy shit half a fucking hour to explain something that takes 1min
If you delete history when re-topoing with quad draw it will fix the lag temporarily until you need to delete history again.
Why does the low poly need to be watertight please?
Good video,,
the world of 3d is fascinating, sorry for my english ,,, greetings
How many orcs does it take to pile up to get to production level as a 3d artist?
At least 31 orcs
@@FlippedNormals thought so too =D was afraid it would take 42 though
am I the only person who still doesn't understand what UDims are...
Udims are where you seperate your model into multiple textures.
th-cam.com/video/DmuHLe6MjEA/w-d-xo.html
Great video! Was wondering if you guys will ever do a grooming video for hair. Maybe an intro video to something like X-Gen
We will do exactly that! :) Very much on our list.
@@FlippedNormals I second this request. And teeth/mouth insides for animating would be fantastic
how do you subdivide the head separately from the body here?
I don't really understand much of the differences between painter and mari. What I got from it is that if painter added udim support and supported bigger maps, it would be pretty much interchangeable with mari, with the added benefit of having smart materials (which you can make yourself using substance designer) and some other features that make your life easier when texturing. Is that a good explanation or is this an oversimplification? I've wanted to try a film pipeline for some time because you can get much more detail and realism out of it, but I don't really get the difference to a gaming pipeline after the retopo and uv stage of things and I was afraid I couldn't get good results using painter for this kind of work.
Painter is only for texturing whereas Mari is a full 3d suite like Autodesk stuff, Blender, etc. I believe it also has PTEX which is a texturing that doesnt need uv's that Disney created to speed up character creation. Probably has some more stuff as well. I only have experience with Blender when it comes to 3d suites but I read into Mari a little.
just one question, if im working on hardsurface model with some smaller surface details , can the displacement project those details onto a low poly version accurately? or do i need to retopo those small details roughly?
What is the software guys are talking about at 17:22?
Bizarre how an app like Substance which is used in Prof work environment didn't had UDIM at that point?!? How did you do the texture paint in substance on this character since it had UDIM setup. Did you make separate materials for the body parts then?
OW nevermind, noticed later you made a custom UVlayout for it, all in one map. should have waited before questioning hahaha like always ;) quite bizarre how the environment lighting is also visible in the UV texture map. Isnt that distracting you when working? PS Painter is pixel based right, I noticed you can scale up resolution at any time. Doesnt that destroy quality and make it blurry since no data is there?
3 Years into the future Substance painter supports UDIMS, great video guys keep em coming.
The performance issue in maya is related to the history, script delete history and switch back to retopo tool and bob is your uncle . You can try to disable the history but I ran into some issues doing that.
So why not create a low poly properly topologized mesh in Maya first, then export that to Z brush for your base mesh and create the high detail work from there? Then you don't have to retopo. Yes/no?
Thats a great question! The reason is because its a lot easier to concept the model in ZBrush than in Maya. Unless youre going super low poly, its advised to do your concept sculpt in ZBrush.
Thank you guys this really clarified some things about character workflow, especially the retopo part.I just picked up your Vray Tutorial, but now I need to get these premium character tutorials so Merry Christmas. Oh please post the Substance Tutorial asap that is a much needed tool as they have us using Mudbox in class...death to Mudbox
For RETOPO, why can't we just use REMESH in Zbrush and then export anObj to MAYA for rigging?
I just did a REMESH and exported an .Obj of a head that I was doing for Zbrush practice and the precision of the loops was far better than anything I could do with QUADDRAW in MAYA. At last for now until I get better at LOOP definitions in MAYA QUADDRAW.
Great TH-cam channel!
Why arent there any major loops around the chest, hips, back, knees etc etc. I wonder why mainly the face and shoulders have these import loops but seem to be missing in other parts.
Like you said around @14:00 you block in major muscle groups. It seems to be missing those, is that because initially this character was not meant for rigging?
How detailed should the character be before you bring the retopo character into the substance painter? I ask because it looks pretty hi-res in painter in terms of the details. Btw, thank you for this helpful and informative tutorial.
Modern GPU's 8gig and above ram but still struggle even in substance, i have rx580 8g and on start up substance flashes me 'your gpu is shittt program wont work at its best' lol :D
It needs cuda cores
18:00 "No open holes" Men of class I see... lmfao
Thank you for another great video :) I'd be very interested to see how you guys go about detailing human characters! With Creatures you have so much creative freedom when working on details but humans (especially young people) have very smooth skin. I really struggle with that aspect once i am done getting the proportions and muscles right. I would love a video elaborating how to properly add pores, wrinkles, veines and the like.
hey.. can you share plz. that ui?
Hey, I noticed if you do it right, zremeshing at half a few times gives you clean topo.
Just a thought.
Question: Hope one of you gents have an answer: I want to sculpt, repoto, UV Map, Texture and pose my entire model within Zbrush. Is this even possible?? I see so many artist using multiple outlets with programs I don’t have. I just want to use one.
If you just want to use one you certainly can but you can't in zbrush, try blender or maya, I use blender so 10/10 would recommend
Austin Martin Thank You, Sir! I just downloaded Blender. I will most likely sculpt in Zbrush then export to Blender to finish. Any tips? I’ve been drawing for 30 years but 3D is a whole new beast and it’s overwhelming lol.
Hey, guys and FlippedNormals! ^^
I am a Zbrush "cowboy" with below average skills, my workflow is to sculpt in Zbrush > Zremesh it > Project and work on subdivisions + make UVs in Zbrush > Export low & high poly into Substance + texturing > back to Zbrush to transpose character > export posed low poly & render in 3dsMax.
Quick question, is there a way to eliminate or at least minimize texture stretching when transposing in zbrush? ^^
Guys, love you so much! Just switched from 2d to 3d and your videos are so fcking usefull. Big thanks to you!
Thank you so much Paul!
Painter is good for game art, but if you make characters for cinematics/movies then Painter sucs a little. You can't paint across UDIMs (I can't belive they still didn't fix it). You can't make good specular maps, because Painter makes specular maps similar to metalness maps. I was disappointed with Painter.
Amazing video. Ive been looking for a more structured workflow. Do you have any suggestions for a more cost effective alternative to sub paint?
Do the UVs get created BY the re-topology? And then you just have to arrange them?
nop, you create the uvs after retopology is done. and yeah after marking seams and unwrapping, you proceed with packing the UV islands.
Great videos guys! a question i have about the high poly, so you don't need to have things like the eyes, teeth, gums, tounge, maybe even eyesbrows modeled, those can be done in the lower poly. But in that case there wouldn't be any details that are tramsfered to them when baking right? just the rest of the body would have that?
Damn that monster is hungry.
is concept sculpting better than sketching/drawing vice versa? just wondering
Hello, new subscriber
Thank you so much guys! This video answered many questions for me. One thing I'm not sure about yet is breaking symmetry on the character - like when moving facial features around a bit and all that... Where would that step happen in the pipeline?
bros blender supports udims now
can we animate the projected mesh
Thank you for such an in depth process video. I'm always curious about pipelines, since it seems like everyone has their own variation of the same thing.
Do you have a text version of the workflow available? For example Concept sculpt > retopologise etc and whether to do high res or low res sculpt first?
Hey guys, i know that the eyes are on a different subtool on zbrush. Is it a separate export to other softwares? Then when we render, how do we join the body and eyes? Thanks!
hi, im from the future and you guys are so wrong -_- Substance painter does support udims and painting across udims. Oh and substance painter is now property of adobe. Double wrong in a row. SMH
This video is 3 fking years old
@@user-hl7pk7rg8h hence why I’m from the future. I time travel
In the future, Zbrush can do animation rigging like maya XD
I am so glad that you guys mentioned blender as a great tool for modelling and retopology!... I have learned a lot in this video especially the blocking of retopology!
Its really a fantastic tool!
Thanks for your help and i have to tell us, you are very nice people and very clear !! I hope you continue ever an ever.. Super Kanal !!!!
but, that part where they make the model a flat image ?? and the part where they add a purple image to the lights works on the model ??
Hi guys I follow you since long ago and appreciate a lot your tuts, I keep coming back to this one, so I’m actually kind of watching it from the future even though I watched it in the past ;) any update on substance / Udims pls?. Thnx so much in advance.
Watching this in 2020, the "5000 Pounds on a 24Gb GPU" made me laugh
Definitely from future here!
Can you do one on how to create characters for meta verse and if there are any differences in the approach?
maya has 0 performance issues when it comes to retopology, all you need to do is delete your history once in a while.....
Amazing content AGAIN🍻
I just wonder in movie industry, which 3d software is used in rigging, animation, grooming and vfx like fluid simulation and explosion? Are MAYA and HOUDINI advanced enough for doing those things?
They use exactly the tools you mentioned :) Maya and Houdini.
Modeling, rigging, animation, groom - Maya
FX and sim - Houdini
@@FlippedNormals Good to know. Thanks.😋
@@FlippedNormalsRelieved.🤣 Thank you for the help.
It would be nice digging deeper and learn how to deal with different parts of the face, like eyes or inside mouth. And maybe tips or advise dealing with blendshapes? They should be treated all as different objects cooked separatedly, but is there any proper way of not making the work many times for small changes?
Yes yes, cool story and all but can you get an .fbx out of blender and in to unreal4? XD. JK jk... sort of
Hello guys, nice tutorials all over your channel , i'm kinda new to it so , wow . I have a question that if you answer it will really save me from a stroke. What if you want to pose your game-ready character ? Is this something you do before the retopo process ( cuz i understand that this is going to be a pain in the ... in the afterwards process) , or is it something that you do after you have ended the symmetry - friendly whole process ( from modeling to texturing), by rigging it etc ? This is also a very time consuming process. I mean normally in a studio you would not do the pose , right ? It's only all about correct topo uvs and stuff , correct ? But if you want to show your work in a portfolio or something , I've seen that posing is an extra to have. So what is the correct - usual - less time consuming way to do it ? I haven't seen all your videos so i don't know if you have mention it anywhere, if so the link would also be appreciated. Cheers
why you can't use the low res from the base mesh you started working on, like in mudbox, is it cuz zbrush uses triangles? and does mudbox offer a better solution to this ? or is it just dead and this is a good thing lol