History of the 7mm Remington Magnum - The Real Gunsmith
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- Randy gives us the real history of the 7mm Remington Magnum as developed by Les Bowman in the 1960's in Northwest Wyoming.
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I live in Ohio. My name is Charles. I have a 45-70 HR handy rifle. Is this a good gun for deer ,Elk,bear or any other big game in the USA. I don't know the maximum range of this round. I don't think i would take over a 200 yard shot on any big game past that. I just don't practice any further and don't want wounded critters running around. I have watched several of your videos and your very wise and respectful. I hope you reply to me. Thanks ,Charles
@@charlesbowman8125 are you related to Les Bowman? As to the 45-70 with a 400 grain bullet you should be fine out to 200 yrds
@@darrellblanchard2362 as far as i know I'm not related. Thanks for the reply.
Randy, I have been watching and loving your video's. Most recently the 7mm Rem Mag history. I reload and always see the COAL but never see anything about Ogive from load data. I have been told from several loaders that the bullet length can vary and you get more accurate and consistent loads when loading to a specific ogive. Being that you have been doing this for so long and what you say makes sooo much sense to me on so many subjects I thought I would pose these questions for your response. What I have been doing is using a Hornady precision overall length gauge. What I measure from the OAL gauge is the Ogive when I reach the rifling lands. Then start with loads using Ogive 10thousandths off the COAL and decrease in .040 increments. ie:-10, -50, -90, -130. Find the most accurate seating depth. Then perform a ladder test at that seating depth. Then make final seating depth adjustments for accuracy. Am I going about this correctly? Am I taking the best approach? Your comments would be greatly appreciated and not taken lightly. Sincerely, Erik
@@charlesbowman8125 out of a handicap rifle personally I'd say 45-70 will fill nearly anything native to north America but with that rifle I wouldn't pull the trigger on anything past 150yds
I was born in 63. A month after I was born my father bought a 7mm Mag. My grandfather bought one the next year. When I started hunting I chose the 7mm Mag and have been using it for over 40 years. My brother shoots a 7mm Mag. One of my nephews shoots a 7mm Mag. I don't know how many big game animals my family has taken with this round but it is in the hundreds. It does what I need a cartridge to do.
another way of putting it ,is a 7 rem mag hits like a 30-06,,,shoot flat like a 25-06,,,,,and out penetrates either,,,,, so its a damn good cartridge,,,,,
Master gunsmith, conscientious hunter and historian. Pretty damn good resume.
I love the 7mm rem mag, thank you for this real history behind it! This made my day
Just picked up a Winchester Extreme Weather SS in 7mm Rem mag. Far more versatility in reloading than I realized. Great round and totally agree as to the range you suggested as maximum. In reality a LOT can go wrong within 400 yards as well. I much prefer being in close. So many seem to think they are snipers instead of hunters.
People forget that a 500 yard shot means dragging game at least 500 yards back.
Amen to that
Too right, I prefer less than 100!
Very good point
Try dragging a deer back three miles. Best cardio workout you'll ever get for free!
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 true.
Watched this video several times. I enjoy it.
I inherited a ruger m77 mk1(tang safety) in 7mm RM from my grandfather as my first rifle(it was a pretty large rifle for a 10 year old, but I learned a lot about fundamentals and recoil bracing from it). I'm now 20, have 2 AR's, a couple shotguns, and a rem 700 precision build, to this day that m77 is my favorite rifle. not only because of the deer I've killed with it, but because I can go through my mom's photo albums and see that it was my grandfather's favorite rifle as well. thank you for making this video, it was very cool to see the history of the developement of the round, and helps me understand why it is such an effective round, because it was designed by experience, not science or philosophy.
Long ago, I knew a gunsmith-gun shop owner in Tyler Texas named Bob Reynolds. About the same time as these events were transpiring, he built himself one of these rifles. According to Bob and his brother, the rifle was so spectacularly accurate, he wouldn't even blue the gun, leaving it in the "white". Also, according to him, he showed the rifle to his Remington rep. Not long afterwards Remington came out with the 700 in 7mm Mag. Obviously, being unaware of the events narrated here, Bob felt that he should have received some credit for the cartridge. Statistics being what they are, he probably wasn't alone. When I was a kid, I loved to read articles by Les Bowman in the gun/hunting publications of the era.
I enjoy hearing your personal gun experiences and wisdom.
Thanks for the call this morning Robert M! I enjoyed visiting with you and I know Randy will, too. We appreciate your comments and support. We look forward to working with you!
Cathy
When I bought my Remington model 700 BDL in 7mm mag I was thinking about elk hunting. Love the gun, was a great choice.
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It hasn't been very long since I found your channel. You Sir are a true treasure of the Old Knowledge. Most of what you talk about I learned back 30+ years ago when I took a home study Gunsmithing course. I never wanted to get into the business. Guns where just a big part of my family and I wanted to be able to not understand more about them but be able to take care of them better than the average shooter. It's amazing how much of this old knowledge is not being passed down in current courses. Thank you for sharing your experience with the younger generations.
It's ALL about being ethically humane when hunting. Thank you for that reminder and perspective.
I couldn’t agree more but a 7mm has plenty energy left when out past 500 yards. It all depends who is behind the rifle! Is this person capable of making that shot? Do they have enough since to know what it takes to make that shot? This goes to say with any person at 50 yards as well. I ran across a guy that was hunting at the same lodge as I once and he had missed a whitetail deer. I asked is it sighted in? He said I had it bore sighted! Lol
This is what I think for what it is worth. I think 7mm is probably one of the best rounds out now that you can hunt deer with or even Elk. To me I have more faith in 7mm than any other. But I will say for 150 yards or less I do like my 45/70.
I was in the AF in 1977 when my first sgt. sold me a 7 mag. I'd just gotta my orders for AK. I had no idea what it was except that it was an Interarms Whitworth with only about 10 rounds shot thru it. Custom montecarlo stock and a beautiful gun.
After returning to my home in Wisconsin after my enlistment, I used it on every hunt for white tails, muleys out west and even coyotes.
My youngest son always hunted with me back in the day. He named the gun "Jerry Lee, the killa" He called it that because he could recognize the sound of my mag and whenever he went to find me after I shot, there was always a dead deer.
Just a short story of many stories I have about my "Jerry Lee" over 4 decades of hunting with it. Thanks so much for your informative video.
i think i love the history of cartridges as much as tinkering with and shooting them (in the past). you can't get any better than this for interesting and useful info--thanks again...
Love the video! I feel a lot of education coming my way watching your channel
Thanks!
I have the 7 mm Remington it was my grandfathers he got the rifle when they first came out in 1962 I believe. It has the wide trigger and the blued stainless steel barrel! I shoot it till this day!
7mm rem Mag was my first high powered rifle well over 50 years ago. still one on my all time favorites. thank you VERY much for the history! I remember reading Les Bowman all those years ago.. thanks for that reminder as well
Amazing piece of history. Thanks for sharing.
The 7mm is my favorite overall rifle. Thank you for the education!
I am a huge believer in the 7mm Rem Mag. I’ve been hunting with one since I was a kid. I also have a 300 wby and a 338 win mag and I have never felt that I needed more than the 7mm provides for moose or elk. It shoots flat, doesn’t burn the throats out of the barrel like some of the barrel burners out there. It’s not too hard on brass and with a 154gn load with IMR4831 pushing it I am well under a MOA and can drop anything I plug with it. 243/308, 7mm Rem Mag and a 338 win Mag covers everything imaginable in North am era and the 7mm will do it all without giving up much to the others
Looks like I made the right choice , I chose arem 700 270 over 30-06 , nice flat line with a comfortable recoil , great deer and even elk rifle ... wanted a larger longer distance for larger hunting such as moose/elk , was considering a 300 , came across a Sako 7mm rem mag in closet condition for almost half its cost so I got it, same reasoning , flatter line/ comfortable recoil ...Was questioning how it would do for moose but from your comment I should be good to go .... as far as long distance I dont see me hunting much further than 400 , maybe 500 yds , heck , I dont want to walk that far lmao.... Ive also got a browning 6.5 creedmoore and a 308 gunsight scout and the ever so worthy Marlin 3030 (1969) so im should be covered for all !!!
The 160-162 grain bullets bring out the best of everything the 7mm Rem Mag has to offer.
Stumbled upon your channel this morning looking for some wisdom about 7mm Rem Mag, a cartridge I want to get into shooting and reloading. .243 Win has been a fun journey but I want to step up to some longer ranges and taking large game like Elk and Moose. Great video, thanks for posting!
I love the 7mm rem mag it is by far my favorite thanks for the video and the interesting facts !
I swapped a winchester model 70 270 for a 7 mm mag left hand bolt . Its a sweei looking obendorf mauser .I did the swap in 1980 ,still got it
I really like learning, from such an experienced and reliable source. Thank you, and God bless.
Thanks and God bless you and yours, too.
You sir are a treasure, thank you for sharing your knowledge and experiences!
Men like this are walking encyclopedias and tons upon tons of information and knowledge, if we do not listen and learn from what men like this have got to say, when they pass on this knowledge with go with them. I have watched and have loved everyone of his videos, can not seem to get enough.
Thank you for the video, brings back memories of my younger years and my father who passed a great rifle on to me. I grew up shooting the .276 Dubiel which was and still is a fine shooter (used reformed.275 H&H brass). It was my first and only rifle for 15 years. Many elk, deer, antelope, and coyotes fell to this rifle. I often wondered why, for years, that some version of the 7MM was not chambered as a factory round. Was happy to see Remington bring out their version of the caliber.
I have never taken elk, but the way you articulated the scenario made perfect sense. Great story as well!
Great podcast on the 7mm rem mag. Really good information. Thanks for sharing this.
The 7 Rem mag is probably my favourite all around hunting cartridge. Thanks for a great story and history lesson.
Such a pleasure to find your channel. Truly a sage for the new age...
In today's world of 1200 meter steel ringers there is very little emphasis on proper hunting ethics. It was a joy the hear your history lesson...
I just got my first one today! Thank you for the incredible history!
The 7mm Rem Mag is a fantastic cartridge. Its my favorite do it all rifle. I also like the 300 win mag, 300 Weatherby mag, 338 win mag, and the 375 h&h mag. All are fantastic calibers.
Sir this was a fascinating story it really was. It's how we often bring new cartridges to market and who better than a mountain elk hunter and gunsmith? And very much respect to you about closing the Gap and getting in there and improving your vantage point. Respecting game is not just about the animal, it's about fellow respect also and making sure we have these game animals for a 1000 years. You and your fellow guides depending that and we depend on you! Thank you for your outspokenness!
Thank you for sharing your great wisdom. Here in Australia, I like the W.270 ... I had a Sako Finbear set up with the varmint barrel and a custom stock. Speer 100gr and 130 BTHP were my favorite.
I set up a 7mm Remington mag for a friend many years back. Without accurate ballistics, just bench resting on the range, I sensed that the 7mm seemed about 20% up on the W.270 as far as groups at distance. I really liked it.
Here in Oz we don't have the big game that is found elsewhere on the planet, however, a lot of our small game is taken in the >300yd range.
In summer, the extreme heat haze often makes it impossible to even make out the target properly at 200yds, .... forget 500yds!
Thank you for your very honest 400yd call out. It's very refreshing to read real facts, especially on TH-cam.
Thank you for posting, and I wish you good health.
Barry M. Australia.
I just found your videos thank you for all of your knowledge.
Welcome Gilbert! Thanks for the compliment. Enjoy our channel. We'll be taking a break next week, but stay tuned, we hope to post once a week as the new year starts.
Really enjoyed your video...thank you for your time Sir. -Scott in Idaho
awesome someone is here to tell the story. great info
Thanks for sharing your knowledge of the 7Remmie. I've taken a number of deer with this caliber over the years and the deer always dropped where they were standing!
I've never hunted elk but would accept this round as a go-to round for the 400-500yd distance you mentioned. Thanks again for your history of the 7RemMag!
Great video. I'm also a 7mm mag fan. Been shooting and hand loading it for years.
Great Video Sir. I've been a 7mm Rem Mag owner for since I bought my first rifle at the age of 12 (w/ a little help from my dad to sign the paperwork obviously) and I've never had the need to purchase anything else. I still use it today 38 yrs later and have taken many wonderful elk and deer with it. It is such a wonderful caliber that I bought my son a 7mm-08 for his 12th birthday and he enjoys is also. I enjoy your videos for it reminds me of the times when I would sit and listen to the stories my grandfather and uncles would talk about because I've learned so much just listening to their wisdom. Please keep up the good work putting these videos out because we can all learn something new.
I’ve just ordered the Mauser m18 in 7mm rem mag I’m very excited!!! Great video.
SUBSCRIBED! I could listen to this guy talk guns all day.
Great video on the history of the 7mm Magnum. Keep up the great work.
The 7mm Remington Mag has been my favorite cartridge for most of my life.
Getting older now and no longer like the recoil and heavier weight of most rifles chambered for it
But I will probably still use it every now and then until I'm done.
Sir, you seem wise and well storied. This is the fist video of yours I have seen, but rest assured I will be watching more. Thank you for your time.
Good morning Randy. Great video, excellent information! Love my Remington’s. My main rifle is a Rem. Model 7 in .308. Started out of coarse, .303 British, way back in early 1960’s. Then moved up to Rem. 788in .308. , shoot a .300 win mag Rem 700 , just bought this fall for moose hunting! No kills yet. Bell& Carson tactical stock, mill dot night Force scope. But my main story, I just bought a used Remington 700 BDL in , get this !!!!! 7 MM Mag. From a elderly widow. Be here on Wednesday!! So excited. Will make a very good all around rifle. Antelope , mule deer down here in southern plains Saskatchewan. Thanks so much for your knowledge & info!! Short true story time! Long time ago my friend using a Rem 700 in 7 mm mag , was asking a RCMP member , that hunted with us a while back. He had been transferred way. Up to the Yukon. My friend asked him one time if he could come up and hunt the big Kodiak ? Bear. With him. He said sure, are ya still using that 7mm , he said yes! The Mountie asked him , still got that front site on said rifle, my friend said yes. Then you better take it off. Friend said why. Mountie said , cause if you just wound that big Kodiak bear, then he’s a gonna shove it up your butt!!! If and when we find ya, if your still alive, it will be easier to pull out , with that front site off!!!! Oh funny, funny humour, from Northern Saskatchewan! Thought you’d get a chuckle or to, keep up the good videos of excellent years of professional knowledge, and down to earth COMMON SENSE. Have a great day. God Bless America. Tks. From Joe Bush.
Thank you for the information. Blessings to you and your family.
Thanks and blessings to you and yours! He IS risen!
Great video on 7mmMag history. I like videos where personal witness to history is an element.
Great infomation.
Had a friend in the seventies using 7mm, but I stand by my .270 I have never hunted elk. But you are right, with proper skills I've shot everything under 250 yes as you said.
Thanks
I always consider myself a student and watching your video was more educational than the last 20 video's I have seen on the 7mm rifle cartridge. Thank you.
Thank you Sir!
I've always valued ol'timers stories. Thank you sir.
The Real Gunsmith thank you for taking the time to tell the story of the 7MM Remington Magnum. Owning my Weatherby Vanguard for 20 years now I always though the 150 Gr Core-Lokt was the original bullet weight produced by Remington in 1962 along with the Model 700. So tell me when and how did the 140,150,175 Gr Core-Lokt's come about ? Thank you again for the education on Remington's Big 7
Awesome video a wealth of knowledge I’m hooked
This channel is a gem.
Thank you for sharing that amazing educational video
Thanks Randy for doing this video.The 7MM Rem Mag was my first heavy rifle. Back in about 1970 I bought a used Remington 700 BDL with a Weaver 3X9 scope,I don't even know what I paid for it at the time.The best rifle I have ever owned for large North American Game. Semper Fi !!!
What a story. Thanks for sharing
Thanks! Les Bowman has been such a HUGE factor in who Randy is, that the story had to be told.
Just took a nice 11 point buck with this cartridge two days ago on opening day. 175 grain Nosler Partition bullet handloaded on top of 61 grains of IMR 4350. Hot stuff, drops them quickly.
xringarcher1440 My pet load for my 700 bdl in 7 mag is 63 grs of imr 4350 with a 175 gr sierra gameking.Pure poison on deer and elk.
Thank you for telling the true story of this great cartridge 👍Greetings from Denmark
Tak for watching from Denmark!!
Thanks for sharing your story sir I’m from northern Ontario Canada use the my 7mm rem Mag for hunting moose every year it shoots straight best rife out there hands down thanks again for sharing this story
Myles Tompkins you must be the only one in your area without a 300 win mag
Thanks for sharing your videos and keep them coming please.
Went to buy a rifle to hunt in Wyoming many moons ago at a local gun shop. The guy said don't sell to many rifles in illinois being a shotgun only state but I might have one you might like. It was a Ruger #1 7mm rem mag. What a shooter. Love the videos.
I can tell you love both the 7mm Rem. Mag. and the story behind it. It’s hard to beat the 7mm. Ammo is cheaper than 300 win mag., has less wind drift and better trajectory than .300 win. mag. after 500 yards. I will never go with another caliber. It is a win all on any game at any size in North America. Thank you for the story.
Have a 7 mm mag in a BSA rifle it's a beautiful gun but has a 22 inch barrel and it's loud great gun if you don't mind muzzle blast!
@@valkyries-mi2sx Actually not.
@@20cameron1 I dont know if you know it, but the higher calibre physically can have highter BC's, more powder also always means more range. The 7mm needs a higher twist and has less cross section for the gases to push. You are 100% wrong its physics its that simple.
@@valkyries-mi2sx All depends on who’s loading and weather. Doing a lot of digging into ballistics is why I chose 7mm Rem Mag. Obviously the 300 flies faster and hits harder but drops faster after 500 yards.
@@valkyries-mi2sx Even comparing Nosler or Barnes, I found the 7mm flies flatter and has higher BC. When you boil it down we’re comparing charts. Real live tests in different weather conditions, different elevations, different distances will vary.
Thank you for telling this story sir.
My 13th birthday was in December and my grandpa gave me a Ruger 7mm Remington Magnum. Grandpa said he’s had it for a long time even since b4 I was even born!
Anyways dad helped me get a Vortex Viper scope for it. I have been shooting long range with it now for five months and it’s so fun and addicting! Even got two classmates into long range shooting. So far I’ve been able to hit 3 out 10 shots at 1,000 meters
But I’m getting better
Just came across your TH-cam channel. Hope to see you on patreon. Have never shot anything but the big seven in Northern and Southern Arizona. Found it suitable for anything including big elk. Penetrates deep through muscle and bone. Finest cartridge ever or big game in my neck of the woods. Thank you sir love Channel
Thank you Sir!
Welcome and thanks for watching and commenting!
Thanks for sharing your knowledge and wisdom
I love old school outdoor adventure stories from Old Timers!
I've got another dern good video to save on an American classic round. Thank you Mr. Randy.
Sir, you are very knowledgeable and correct with your information. I have hunted many years using the 7 MM Remington Magnum with high success in taking big game. It has the best ballistic coefficient and sectional density of any calibers cased in the belted 458. I also reload using Nosler 160 grain partition. I do like also your Atlas Craftsman 12” Commercial lathe in the back round which I also have. Live long and of good courage.
Thank you. Ive owned the 7mm Rem. mag calibur since i was 17. I bought a Rem 700 bdl. Im now 51 years old. Very interesting story. Ga.
Just bought my Father in laws 700 bdl 7mm mag. Nice shooter, haven't put too much ammo through it.
I tip my hat to you sir. Outstanding story and I'm glad I gained this knowledge. I've hunted with my Ruger M77 Mk2 7mm Rem Mag since I was 16 (20 years now). It was a gift from my father and grandfather. I've harvested many white tailed deer and hogs with it over the years. A fine, fine rifle cartridge and my personal favorite. I love hearing it sing out in a calm, quiet forest.
My grandfather bought a Ruger m77 in 1973 brand new he shot a 6x6 bull elk with it my dads shot deer with it and now it’s mine it’s still in perfect condition and of course it’s chambered in 7mm rem mag
I have the same. It's as good as I can manage. I think mine is around 25yrs old. I had trigger work done to make it a little crisper and lighter. Plus added a custom muzzle brake. Shoots similar to a 0.270 now. Really like it.
I've got a M77 Mark 2 7mm mag with the green laminate and stainless steel. I love this rifle, haven't seen any deer worth shooting with it yet but ever since I free floated and jb bedded it I got a 5/8" group at 90 yards, because that was as far as I could shoot.
My 2 go to guns for hunting are my 7mm mag in the browning BARm ugh grandfather gave me then my custom built 35 Remington on the browning blr platform,with a 26" octagon barrel,never in my 34 years of hunting have I shot a deer or hog that didn't fall in its tracks,in my opinion the 7mm is the absolute best cartridge ever designed and the recoil is nothing. I have a couple 270s and the recoil on them is a beast,great video thanks for sharing
I own more 7mms than any other rifle. They have always performed on EVERY big game animal I’ve ever taken. I did know it was a necked down .338 only because I own a .338 and could tell that’s what it was, but didn’t know the origin. Thanks again! Awesome...as is your knowledge. I’d love to sit at the bench with you for an afternoon.
Thank you for this historical insight.
thank you for sharing your wisdom
Awesome to know the history of the 7mm rem mag.
The 7 rem MAG is my favorite cartridge by far it can take down anything in north America and a lot of animals in Africa its truly is the perfect cartridge!!!
The great thing about it is the selection of bullets to play with the only other caliber would be a 308 but ballistics are so much better on the 284 than anything else for the recoil the 7 mm wins everyday and i
Matthew Lyness 7 mm Weatherby Magnum even better !
@@jimtruscott5670 Because ammo costs more? Is far less available? Recoils harder? For 200fps more potential velocity? Far fewer choices of rifles to pick from?
Ван Гвардия It’s mainly that I like to spend more money on cartridges.
Puertecitos68 If you have toothpicks for bones.
Fred Huntington’s shop and the original rcbs factory are just down the road from me that’s so cool to hear that he had a part in making the 7 mag
New subscriber here. I really like your videos, Randy, as well as your advice on long range 'hunting'. Thank you!
Thanks Dingle Fritz!
Thank you for the video. My Grandfather gave me his that he bought brand new in 1968 it's a Remington 700 BDL it's the straightest shooting tack driving gun I've ever owned. I had a 300 Weatherby mag and sold it cause ammo was to expensive and I never could get it to shoot dead on. I love my 7 mag plus it was my Grandfather's and I thought the world of him so it will always be in the family.
Outstanding interview this has to be one of the best caliber interviews iv seen I never heard about 160gr needing 1800 at 500 yrds for elk I remember reading articles from less back in maybe 80s I like were you said 400 with 160 in your opinion was far enough.
Great story, and good advice!
Thank you for sharing great knowledge
Thanks Randy for this video as it was pretty interesting. I shoot an M70 7Mag with a Berger 168gr VLD & looking at different bullets, maybe Barnes or Nosler Partition even though the Berger has done fine with well placed shots. I'm a big guy & not recoil sensitive. My next hunting rifle will be 300WM or bigger. I've taken elk from 50 to 500 yards & want to hunt moose eventually.
Just finishing up your Bullet Technology video. Going to try the Barnes bullets.
Thank You Very Much. Very informative.
You're 100% correct Randy. Too many of these "would be's" try taking game at extreme ranges. Why??? Worked with a guy that had a son who built a 338/378. He had a special spot across a canyon in Idaho he shot elk from...730 yards and even he said he wouldn't stretch any beyond that distance...even with that horse of a rifle.
Thanks for the history lesson.
I'd have to agree! The 7 Rem mag is a fine cartridge for elk inside 400 yards! I hunt mainly back east in VA I do occasionally hunt in Montana. I wanted a rifle that works great on whitetails as well as elk. Oddly enough here in SW VA we have elk. The skill set for most hunters is 300 yards and in. Learning to shoot long range past 300 or 400 yards takes practice. I don't think anyone should even attempt it without training and practice. The 7 Rem mag is capable of delivering heavy bullets with high bc out to a mile. It's great for steal. I've hunted on farms where I've made 600 yard shots at deer. I've only done that twice and with success. I was in the Army as a squad designated marksman. I felt confident to take those shots. The hardest part was getting used to hard hitting and flat shooting cartridges and recoil. Knowledge of your ballistics is a must as well as knowledge of what's going on in your environment that day. You have to know how to use those variables. The 7 Rem mag's capabilities are greater than what a majority of people are capable of.
A 7mag with good bullets is a very capable 600 yard elk rifle
That was said very well
@@maxair5970 Yea it will work if everything goes right. For 600 yards at elk there are much better choices available. If recoil is a problem and 7mm is your max I would consider getting closer
This is one of those titles that drew my attention and at the same time I was unsure if I would like it. This video has so much good information and history that I was surprised at how much I really liked it. Randy's delivery of the facts and story are like combining Eistein and Mark Twain. And his straight forward talk is refreshing to say the least. Maybe do more videos about other calibers, 270 winchester or the Weatherby magnums. Maybe a video about how military rifles and calibers became good civilian combinations. Anyways, keep up the good work. There are a lot of people enjoying your videos and your decades of knowledge.
My dads sister was a hippie in the 1960s and she bought her boyfriend a brand new 7mm Remington Mag 700 BDL but they were both druggies so he pawned it and my Grandpa went and paid $150 to get it back. In 1987 I was 17 and was hunting with an old 7mm mauser that wasnt very accurate so my Grandfather gave me the 7 mag well me being young and dumb and broke I thought those 7mm mauser shells were for the 7 mag also so I put one in the barrel and pulled the trigger and nothing happened well 5 shells later i threw the whole box in the river thinking they were all duds so i was disappointed and continued to hunt with the 7mm mauser and use the other box of shells i sighted it in with and a few days later my best friend's dad John asked me how that 7 mag shot so i told him all the shells were duds and at the bottom of the river so he asked to see the gun and if i had anymore shells. Well he about whipped my ass with a belt for being so stupid and said I was lucky the gun didn't blow up in my face. John was in the military and I was probably closer to him than my real dad and he taught me a lot about hunting, fishing the birds and the bees haha. Since then I have killed quite a few deer with that gun and a couple small trees along with a few coyotes. That old gun is a tack driver still today, I can consistently group in a 2 inch circle at 300 meters. Thanks for the true history of the 7mm magnum.
I agree the 7mm Rem Mag is a great cartridge and have a Sako chambered for it . I bought mine for a proposed Colorado elk hunt. The hunt naver came to be but I've shot it a fair bit with lighter bullets as a varmiter and found it - and the Sako - more than accurate enough even with 140 gr. Noslers . Its certainly stout enough with enough leg to take just about anything on North America at reasonable hunting ranges with the proper bullet . I know I can punch through 3/4" mild steel plate at 100 yds with a 170 gr. solid .
So, 1294 ft/lbs of energy at 1000 yards (almoat 3x's a 45acp at point blank range) isn't sufficient energy to humanely drop an elk? I humbly disagree, sir. The limitations of the shooter, should not limit the cartridge.
This round is good well past 500yards. I shoot consistently at 1k with my 700sps, of course you need good glass at that distance but the round is very capable of taking elk one ridge away
Thank you so much sir for all the info!! I’m currently struggling with choosing a cartridge and rifle for long range shooting and for elk hunting. Here in Arizona I my have to make a 500+ yard shot. I’ve been stuck between the .308 Winchester, 7mm Magnum, and .300 Winchester Magnum. I’ve always been drawn to the 7mm Magnum so I believe thanks to you I’ve made the decision in the cartridge. Now I have to figure out the rifle. Lol. Oh joy. Thank you again sir and God Bless! I’m now a subscriber!
My choice would be the .300 Win. with a 180-190 gr bullets of Nosler or Barnes bullets. Good Shooting.
Great video.
Due to the home confinement of this period, I decided to review the long passed epasodes form you tube here... I particularly enjoy the subject matter of hunting in the western region of the states where I live. I too am a fan of Jack O'Conner from way back when! Being a spokane kid I too followed into the footsteps of the .270 win... Some 5 decade later I'm still empressed with it's caliber and legs for ranges that many other calibers fall away at distances often taken by the hunters out here. I'm a fan of the 7mm range of cartridges but still going to be shooting the .270 win until I can no longer get into the field. I'm just too set in my ways and I'm fine with that.
Thank you for a great history on the 7mm!
Amazing! - Thank you Sir 🙌🏻