I Ranked All Brave Arsenal Weapons in Destiny 2 (Using Democracy)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 19 มิ.ย. 2024
- Today I am going to take ALL of the Destiny 2 Into the Light God Rolls and Rank them in an OBJECTIVELY CORRECT tier list using the power of Democracy.
TIME STAMPS
00:00 - Unique Rating System
00:17 - Edge Transit
02:16 - Blast Furnace
04:24 - Forbearance
05:31 - Mountain Top
06:39 - Elsie's Rifle
07:35 - Hammer Head
08:47 - Hung Jury
09:41 - Midnight Coup
11:13 - Succession
12:11 - Recluse
14:36 - Luna's Howl
17:02 - Falling Guillotine
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You literally cant disagree. Im sorry
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Tbf most of these placements are pretty accurate overall.
I disagree.
So little time
So many rolls needed
Vault is overflowing
Ahhhhhh
I will disagree
So for hung jury. Rewind rounds and explosive payload pretty much gives you infinite ammo. You dont lose any. Since explosive payload counts as two shots. You get a full mag back when you get empty.
Bro is allergic to reloading a scout lol, if I may, scouts are garbage my friend, this is an intervention
@@mattinater_ eh? I'm just stating that the role is definitely fine to use. Jury isn't that bad of a gun if you want a primary and want to use. Frees up a exotic slot
@@mattinater_ hopefully one day bungie will create PvE content that is long distance oriented
hung jury is the best scout
I was just talking to my fireteam about this yesterday, how Hung Jury Brave and Transfiguration are the only weapons in D2 that can get infinite explosive ammunition. Rewind/Payload are great synergistic perks that I hope finds its way to more weapons.
It is a shame scouts are on the weak side, but they are still worth using in high end content.
Anyone who says scouts are weak or garbage are just bad at using them. :)
People not knowing how much energy the new Forbearance can generate is wild to me, Demo/Pugilist, Demo/Wellspring and for who don't have it, the classic roll still exists, don't forget that with the new origin trait, it is the best utility wave frame in the game by far.
I agree and I’m tired of acting like it ain’t
@@arjunbaweja7755😂
The only problem I have is that not only do I have a Forbearance already, but Souldrinker is an amazing origin trait
@@Halo916_ It's a bit overrated imo but still one of of the best origin traits
@@jackalexande I agree on low tier content (never even really noticed it), but after using it in Onslaught, it did a lot of helping. I think the new one would be better for low end, with Old being good for high end
Succession’s discord snapshot roll not being more recognized as like a peak pvp sniper roll is crazy to me. Pre nerf snapshot ads speed and infinite ammo with good aim.
If you’re good at clicking heads post-primary kill, definitely. Most people. Most people also don’t use anything other than shotguns. Lol
Firefly/OFA on Midnight Coup fucks in Onslaught. You pretty much have OFA up all the time. Also don't sleep on discord/snap Succession in PvP
Discord on any special weapon is op as hell if done correctly. Probably one of the best kill streak perks for pvp.
Yeah it’s a great roll. I’m more for payload one for all but that is a great roll
@@arjunbaweja7755I’m with you I got both rolls and like the explosive and OFA better
Just cant see how edge transit isnt S tier when its the highest DPS heavy in the game.
You want Basically highest DPS? Edge has it. You want good ammo economy? Edge has it. You want ad clear? Edge has it.
No idea how Edge isn't S tier
Whats the best roll for dps with edge transit?
@@telephones3 Envious Assassin/Bait and switch, and spikes mines if you can get the perfect godroll
I got the envious bns spike but with a blast radius mw 😭
@@tobintobintobin any weapon with bait and switch is an immediate no-go. Having to swap weapons that often just to be most efficient is an absolutely annoying way to play the game.
That's the tierest list that has ever tierd list!
Seriously that's the content I sub for, thank you XD
One for all is "alright"???!!!! Heresy.
I mean. I don't think it can be reactivated during it's duration right? I think that alone makes it weaker.
@theremnants6807 It's so easy to activate though. Literally shoot three enemies. And if it's matched with kinetic tremors, you potentially only need to shoot one enemy in a crowd.
@@ashtonsalow7356well payload not tremors but yes
@arjunbaweja7755 i meant what i said. I didn't say shoot one bullet, I said one enemy. Explosive payload does as well.
@@ashtonsalow7356 They have brainrot
Best primary weapons from the brave arsenal are: lunas howl and the strangers rifle
The best special ammo weapons from the brave arsenal are: mountaintop and forbearance
The best heavy ammo weapons from the brave arsenal are: hammerhead and edge transit.
how is strangers rifle better than blast furnace, the only way is that it has no competition for energy pulses
@@Kait07_ because since it's a pve and pvp tier list stranger's rifle wins. It has really good pvp perks like headseeker and has access to all the void elemental perks too for max ad clear and void subclass verbs.
Blast furnace is really amazing however there's nothing crazy for pve build crafting potential.
@@theremnants6807 ok but if you're using a pulse in pve you are getting booted either way, pve shouldn't even come to consideration. and blast furnace has headseeker too...
@@Kait07_blast furnace ain’t too special in pvp or pve, but Elsies IS special in pvp. I have used it so much ever since getting the god roll and it’s just that good
@@Kait07_ Blast furnace is outclassed by Disparity in pvp anyway.
Sweet Liberty I do love a quality Democracy tier list.
Headseeker kill clip on blast furnace is insane
or rampage fr
While I HATE that Hung Jury was brought back when we could already get it, I do think it's actually A tier in PvE at least,
1. Kinetic Tremors damage IS boosted by perks
2. Precision instrument is 25%(30% Enhanced)
3. Both activate/max out on 6 shots
It's big boy health bar damage is gonna be damn good for chunky bois.
Falling Guillotine, Frenzy + Bait, NOT Vorpal, losing a whole 5% of damage smh
Forbearance is hella overrated, though the Brave version is nice with the Origin Trait + Demo + Wellspring = LOTS of regen so I can agree with S-tier.
Frenzy has to activate, Vorpal is already activated
@@damazsta sure but frenzy takes like what? 10 seconds of being shot at to activate? it's basically always active
I get that people didn’t like Hung Jury coming back but it does represent D1 in a really good way. I told my friends who quit D2 early on about the weapons coming back and they all went “HUNG JURY??” And lit up with excitement. Sure it’s not exciting to us who play this game constantly but it definitely has a place in the Brave Arsenal for all the D1 vets who are returning for Final Shape
I have one Jury in vault with Kinetic Tremors and One for All and I will be keeping it just in case we get some kind of scout/primary buff
Should have been martyr's retribution instead of forbearance imo. The original wave frame
I agree with that falling guillotine ranking. Thank you for bringing an iron fist to this messy democratic ranking system. As always our charismatic leader makes a correct choice with 100% of the vote.
hate to break it to you, falling guillotine's dps and total reserves damage is outdone by bequest and lament. in terms of utility, it only really brings repulsor brace, so it's also beat by slammer with cold steel (stasis synergy and champ stun) :3
@@xanthacanthus it isn't? falling guillotine ranks higher than both of those in aztecross' latest video
"It's average, not small!" commentary was great😁
I got on D2 for the first time in probably 2 months yesterday and unlocked all off the Brave weapons in one day. I honestly don’t know if that should make me happy or upset because they were reasonably easy to get but it did take a couple hours to do. Granted I did hop on after all of the quests were obtainable which is the only reason I was even able to complete them all in one day. Overall I like where Bungie is going with this and the lord of the weapons is also very good and intriguing.
Can't wait to see this beauty
I don't think there are any bad brave weapons, some are just better than others.
I'd argue Forbearance is bad due to not being different enough from the base one the same main roll will be used of ambitious assassin and chain reaction and the adept version being able to use adapt mods and a better original origin trait.
loved helping in the beginning
I don’t have the particular shiny but hammerhead has shiny interaction as well… envious up to 200 shots, then swap to rampage
I'm not mad at guillotine's ranking, I'm mad that you left it upside down! Also chat is straight wrong about edge transit and hammerhead. S-tier weapons for their archetypes.
Yea if you consider archetypes that yea that makes sense
@@damazsta Edge Transit is the highest DPS and most ammo efficient heavy in the game right now.
For edge transit in particular. If you roll both cascade and envious assassin you can hit swap before a damage phase. You want bait and switch but that’s an astronomical roll.
As a current owner of a shiny falling guillotine with an eager edge swap off option, I can confirm that it is choice.
People are way off on blast furnace. B teir? Seriously?
It's a pvp and pve tier list. It very mid in pve and very good in pvp. Not amazing at everything.
What rating would you give it? I think it's good but has already been done. Those who don't have other pulse ruffles can pick this up. If you're being honest, brave weapons from onslaught, and the new pantheon activity raid weapons are here for new players to get great weapons and get into the game.
@@ExtraordinaryFate I don't know many people that use legendary pulses in high end pve anyway. Pulses are just weak especially kinetic pulses. It's not bad but I wouldn't be using it inside a raid.
@@theremnants6807 this.
@@ExtraordinaryFate No subclass 3.0 synergy, not a high DPS archetype, poor performance at close range, kinetic means it can't deal with shields well. The kinetic damage bump is nice, but you do sacrifice some stuff for it. While it's not unusable, it is very mid in PvE, and there are many other weapons you should consider using before this one comes to mind. It's a stand-out in PvP though, definitely does a good Rev Zero impression with the right perks, and can even exceed Rev Zero in some areas.
Totally agree on the falling guillotine. Mine has frenzy or vorpal in the third and surrounded and eager edge in the fourth. That is an S tier weapon. I personally would have rated some of the weapons that don’t have too much new to offer versus their old counterparts a lot lower. Obviously the new forbearance is S tier but we already had craftable S tier forbearance. Is the new one really worth grinding for if you already have the old crafted roll? Probably not.
Got a edge transit with chain reaction ans destabilizing rounds lol its fun
I'm a Warlock main who loves Hung Jury so much the vanity plate on my sparrow is WLHUNG
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I nearly agree haha the problem with falling guilotine is the ammo economy it burns ammo far too quickly to get max dps, your better off using a faster swinging sword light attack only for good dps and much better ammo economy. Especially on hunter the gold tusk beats it easily. It depends on the situation and your heavy generator I suppose, it’s good but I’d say A for a sword and chasing the perfect shiny would be nearly impossible. The blast furnace could be an A too a head seeker kill clip roll would clap in the crucible especially 6’s and it has good range but yeah it is a 4 burst I get it, Elsie’s is S tier in its archetype good range great stability great aim assist great handling. In its archetype it’s the best and I love the messenger but Elsie’s is easier to get and better with the right roll and you don’t have to slap on counterbalance. Don’t believe me get my roll and try it arrow head brake ricochet keep away headseeker stability mw if you prefer go for range mw, the stats are fantastic and you can enhance them in the final shape, also the pve roll is great in its archetype and that’s what we’re voting on right otherwise some of the other weapons would be lower on the list if it was overall with all the weapon in the primary, special, heavy bracket. Great vid though.
Is Kenetic tremors and explosive payload together pretty much pointless on midnight coup?
The Falling Guillotine is my favorite sword of all time, and the brave reprisal is amazing, with MULTIPLE damage perks in *both* columns. hands down, it will wreak havoc if we end up in sword meta again.
A couple things have to get nerfed and vortex swords have to get buffed for it to be good for dps. Double damage perk is unfortunately just a novelty over relentless strikes
I know Hung Jury is an iconic weapon, but yeah, didn't need it again.
Would it be controversial to say I'd have loved a buffed Nameless Midnight?
I just had a lot of fun at the start of D2 with that static Explosive Payload perk
Missed opportunity for Reginald and Archibald doing a tier list. 🥺
Some newere players dont realize there is 2 types of content. Chilling on couch content, and chilling hard on couch content. One can make any gun feel great and the other one needs some solid perk rolls in order to feel content (GMs /Day 1). Nobody is bringing firefly into a GM without a solid damage perk to go with it. Just an example.
Exactly 🤮 I was cleaning my vault and I realized I use like 30-40 weapons out of all 500+ weapons in vault Bungie needs to do something about this
I’m curious to see the cut brave weapons are cause there was a much bigger list bungie narrowed down to what we have.
Most of these are good for new players to pick up and hope into dungeons, raids, etc
Mainly what the threw out and kept hung jury like if there was other sunset weapons like dust rock or other older raid weapons why keep the reissued scout rifle over sunset stuff.
There’s the whole unsunset the sunsetting yea but I think we should’ve gotten 1 of each weapon type like instead of hung jury do a shotgun and instead of forbearance do a glaive
Apparently 21% Delirium was one of them, my disappointment knows no bounds.
@@Welverinreally so we could get a gambit weapon without playing gambit? Bungie come on these ain’t good picks
Switch recluse and blast furnace and that’s a good list
i recently got a blast furnace with kinetic tremors and firefly, and i have to admit: while this combo is kinda meh on midnight coup, it actually feels really nice on blast furnace, simply because of two things: it procs a lot faster, and the mag is way larger, meaning that you don't have to reload right after it procs.
this makes it fantastic against champions and most other big enemies, meanwhile firefly makes it a great ad-clearing weapon. so not only you have nice and consistent single-target damage, but you also have an excellent AOE damage, it may not be top tier, but i'd be lying if i said it's not a solid choice.
mind you, this is coming from someone who HATES pulse rifles in general for PvE, no matter the perk or archetypes, i just hate them. and yet, i kinda dig blast furnace.
Shiny edge transit is indeed much better than the regular one. Getting cascade AND envious with bait n switch is crazy op.
I have a hung jury with firefly and explosive payload it’s pretty good honestly
Go with KT+EP
Idk why, but DSR with MoA on Recluse feels amazing for crucible.
Nah Hammerhead is S tier. The others I dont mind, besides putting Hung Jury in D tier haha
Lol hung jury and midnight coup are my go to in pvp right now and getting streaks
People hate on it too much between it being a scout and being reissued so much. Both of which things I don’t personally see as that big of issues
Hammerhead destabilizing rounds onslaught or killing tally with a extra rounds instead of more damage to majors or minors gets the mag on 75 or 73 respectively and wipes out everything.
Hammerhead is so good with gyrofalcons it’s probably one of if not the best weapon to use with that exotic. It synergies with that exotic in every way
@imrunningoutofnames2413 I run it with it but it's honestly not necessary with the right setup. It does help ease of use and the buff will continuously proc as you keep going invisible and just keep laying on the trigger.
Been loving Luna's howl since rain of fire doesn't activate mag howl and have a full mag for more stacks
Yes I’m mad at you, but just because it made me laugh. This video was great, thank you and God bless you
Deconstruction+Envious lets you fire thirty+ grenades without reloading or needing reserve mods.
Cannot believe they passed up ChromaRush for DungJury… (just came up with that)
I'd agree with this list. Though I'd probably put mountaintop in S tier due to it being pretty great in PvE and it's rocket jump avlbility. Can skip or get into parts you normally can't. Recluse is definitely mid to me, I think Funnelweb totally spoiled that void smg spot for me. Fallen Guillotine is nasty, I got vorpal, BnS and it is GROSS
Pour one out for my boy Chroma Rush. Somehow it lost to Hung Jury of all things in Bungie’s insider popularity poll.
Have a nice day @all c:
Can you still farm these weapons ?
Choosing frenzy over one for all for furnace is insane
Falling Guillotine: "Am I a joke to you?"
Explosive payload and kinetic tremors for midnight and hung jury are god tier roles
I’m a big fan of kinetic tremors
Love to see it
So little time
So many rolls needed
Vault is overflowing
Ahhhhhh
The only, and I mean only S-tier weapons are coup and edge transit. Forbearance is great, but at this point considering the incoming chain reaction nerf, its not going to replace indebted kindness.
Midnight Coup is ass. I don't even know why it is that high. There are quite a few MUCH better hand cannons.
@@williameldridge9382 in the kinetic slot? No, not really. The only comp is fatebringer with no origin trait and coup can get the same roll with enhanced perks. Not to mention the multiple other rolls that can fit any playstyle.
I don't think I disagree with Falling Guillotine being an S tier. Aztecross did a damage test with it and it's the best sword for dps, beating Slammer
slammer was never even good?
People used slammer for a bit faster eagers edge. Not for damage.
THE BAD PIGGIES MUSIC 😭😭😭
Really no clue why, but thd moment i heard "vorpal, bait and switch" i immidistely went to think that someone still thinks vorpal does 15% on heavy weapons (which it doesn't)
Hung Zury - KT + EP best legendary scout in game
Sir… never change your avatar, it makes me happy inside seeing it.
Mesome was having too much fun wayching chat fight.
How does luna's howl make it into S, I am worried about some people
Ngl, I sigh audibly when someone brings pvp into consideration when talking about the value of a gun.
Why
@@franckize because edge transit is factually THE BEST gl in the game, but gls are dogohshit in PVP so it drops from S to A apparently? Just rate them per mode ie a pve and PVP rating.
@@Alckee6904 yeah trying to rate between both was dumb, if pvp or pve can drag down a rating, then how is forbearance in s? Practically useless for pvp, but it still gets S tier. But that doesn’t apply for other weapons?
@@quixotic_mind Im not saying they’re right, but having the reputation of a “must have weapon” WILL clear any doubt of putting it in A tier or below. Thats literally what happened too
@@Alckee6904 true! But most people in pvp barely look at the roll perks of their GL (if they play GL)
Edge transit is peak damage🤣
if you're gonna use a sword, use falling guillotine.... unless you're a stronghold/lament chad titan
I'm convinced the people in chat don't have these weapons 💀 MT with Recombo is a 1 tap machine
Edge Transit not in S makes no sense. The best GL in the game 😭
did Mesome get ToM from Pantheon yet?
Deconstruct sticky and cascade on edge. Your getting near infinite heavy on the edge
How can you make a tier list when the weapon just came out
Yeah its literally the best sword. I should farm it
Edge transit is a S++ tier for boss dps
holy shit TDT VTuber
The people who clown on sword DPS are the same people who don’t have a day 1 Crota emblem.
you can tell the number of new players by the fact that blast furnace is b tier instead of a
I feel Luna's is going to be the most sought after hand cannon
Definitely for pvp. Having benefits of 2 handcannon types is just too good to pass on.
Most should be in D cause most have been out classed, and they had there wow factors been gutted! Plus they couldn't add a sidearm or a bow?
Edge of transit is 100% S tier, everything else I don't have problems
dude really said one for all is "alright"
I was there =)
Recluse doesn't deserve anyyything higher than B tier in PvE. At this point if a weapon doesn't have double damage perks, or an equally powerful utility perk like envious assassin on heavy weapons, then there are just better options.
8:10 why would you use Envious on a Machine gun? That’s literally your ad clear weapon
I wonder the same thing every tome someone brings it up.
Simple. For killing tally. If you reload you lose the buff and envious makes that less likely
@@theremnants6807 but then you’d have to use another weapon enough to actually get enough ammo to make that worth it? And at that point, just use The Deep Stone Machine gun with reconstruction
@@theremnants6807 I have a feeling you don’t understand how envious assassin works.
I got a hammerhead with rewind/ killing tally ☺️
hung jury box breathing no distraction. its A any other roll F. this coming from a hung jury PvP main
15:12 incandescent is just “alright” for pve stuff?
I think it’s good you let your audience vote decide this tier list. You would’ve been roasted.
Midnight coup is the shit
S tier for sure
Tell me you don’t play PvE without telling me you don’t play PvE
11:23 huh? Succession has literally the best stats of any legendary aggressive in the game?
tbh I think hung jury doesn't deserve as many iterations as it does. we needed redrix's broadsword instead of hung jury
Evryone comparing Luna's to other weapons are leaving out the two most like it: Hawkmoon and Ace if Spades. I normally don't like comparing exotics to legendaries but Mag Howl in PvE is just a WAY WAY WAY worse version of Hawkmoon's perk.
Kinda would have rather at least one weapon of each type instead of 2 handcanons and 2 pluses, and 2 Gls
Falling Guillotine being the best dps sword with double damage perks is a straight up lie unfortunately... bequest will still do better every time... and if you can't proc surrounded, lament beats out every other sword
Edit: forgot to add, I still agree that once enhanced it's the best sword for general gameplay along with the Slammer (vortex eager edge goes brr)
midnight is easily s tier, so is blast, so is mountain top
I cannot respect haters who puts hung jury in anything below A tier. It is one of the best legendary scouts in the game in both PVP an PVE. You may not like scouts or the fact that hung jury has been around for a while, but if you are going to use a scout, it is top tier and now it has all the new updated perks.
PVP is a non-consideration, honestly. In PVE? Pulse's and Scouts struggle pretty bad. There are much better scouts, though.
@@williameldridge9382 Why PVP is non consideration and what are the better scouts in PVE? I want to know because I have em all, what am I missing in legendary weapons?
Saw edge in A. Instantly realized chat is stupid.
How is edge transit not in s tier
Recluse gets absolutely outclassed by Funnelweb, lmao
Edge transit is the best dps tho
I'd argue the best weapons to chase here are probably the ones with two or more distinct godrolls like Forbearance and Falling Guillotine due to shinies having the potential for a 4/4 roll in columns 3 & 4, or even a 7/7 godroll.
“Best DPS Sword with Vorpal + BnS”
Not even close - Vorpal is 5% damage increase on heavy weapons, and BnS is a terrible perk for swords since it requires you to stop using the sword every 10 seconds. Frenzy + Whirlwind Blade does what you were thinking you were doing. Frenzy is 15% damage increase that activates if you are in combat for more than 10 seconds, even if it’s stowed. Whirlwind Blade gives you 30% increase damage for using your sword.
10% on heavies genius