I attended a mastering session for two singles of mine - and I learned so much in that session, I want to say it was equal to what have learned in my entire career ... Very inspiring guy.
This man's has been the mastering engineer for most of the soundtrack of my youth. From pop to gangster rap, Grundman makes it sound sooooooo good! Thank you Bernie for making my music more musical. And for these tips. Sounds like Jam and Lewis took a page from your book, too.
Such a great video. As a MWTM paid subscriber I really wish you guys would do another one with Bernie. His wisdom seems boundless and his passion is infectious! He really made me re-evaluate my own attitudes towards gear and the process. Pleeeease get him on again MWTM.
I spent an hour with Bernie recently and he talked the whole time- Incredible information from a truly magical guy. He would rather be mastering than doing anything else and it shows in his work.
Great video, I love the detail he goes into for Analog vs Digital, it's always great to have someone with such insane knowledge explain the pros and cons of something, don't think I've ever watched a video on this channel and not learned something I could apply to my own music.
Now there is a difference between Digital and digital according to some it does not sound DSD like PCM. and 24 bit does not sound like 16 bit. not to mention extreme DXD sampled at 352.8 kHz 🧐
@@drainer_333 i just like to pick on millenials... and in this particular case, due to technology alot of millenials dont even have the right concepts of what "mastering" is... to many ppl i hear say that they mix and master their songs..basically they mean they put a rediculous amount of plugins on their tracks and they master by putting a limiter on the master... just even the concept of having a second ear is not there.
I really like experienced people and I'm sure Bernie can spot very small details in sound that many of us struggle to hear. Mostly because experience tells you what to listen for. But I'm thinking, If he didn't KNOW that there was a digital EQ used, would he still be able to spot it as he claims, because it has a “sound.” Not trying to be smart, just curious but somewhat sceptical that he can. There's many well known sound engineers that claim they can hear analogue gear and digital gear and hearing the “Neve sound” and the “API sound” etc. Maybe they can. But wouldn't it be just so interesting to try this out? I'm pretty confident that it would be difficult to find any volunteers though. Love to see me proven wrong.
I find just passing a signal through SOME pieces of hardware has a very distinctive characteristic, like a manley massive passive or an orban eq. People have set up variations of these types of things in various fb groups and here on you tube. It's a bit like knowing the sound of a particular guitar amp, only so much more subtle. You should give acustica audio a try if you are unaware of them. Immediate notice for me about 10yrs ago from a developer using the same tech. a freebie, R2R tape plugin cdsoundmaster.com
@@davidsteadman1613 I've heard someone say "Michael Brauer" is top at that, and really knows and understands what audio he wants going through what hardware for that "character" it adds... even if he's barely affecting the signal. It's just for the CHARACTER!
Has anybody ever defined what it actually means to call an EQ „ musical“ ? We had that discussion forever back in the days of Midas vs. Yamaha in Live Sound.
Not that i've heard, but Rupert Neve said in his interwiev that he made his works with a great spirit as being guided... I wont go there, but i struggle with software synths and i try kitchen sink on them too..only bass is musical. Golden ratio, fibonacci, fractals, dark matter, ether.. is your answer, but it gets deeper than that, quantum actually. Your nose is working on quantum principles..but it is not in the school books. I went there quickly, to sum it up, i am looking foward to using analog equipment!
It's just a marketing term to get people to buy analog gear. You can literary clone any EQ curve you want with modern eqs like FabFilter and iZotope. Musicial = Broad Q e.g. 3 octaves.
I’m such a huge fan of Bernie. Just wished he did the last round of the Michael Jackson rereleases. Maybe Sony didn’t want to ship the old tapes around.
But aren't there artifacts in the sound of Dynamic Compression? . especially when raising the lowest volume. so that on the weak and loud sounds tones sound the next equally loud. in the worst case, sound cuts the peaks at the 0 line. an example someone is playing real acoustic drums. if you use strong dynamic compression, this drum will sound more like it sounded slow and tough. in relation to recording the drum kit without compression or listening to it live
Of course there are. Everything you do produces artifacts. Sometimes they are unwanted and sometimes they are wanted for artistic reasons. The only trick is to differentiate between what's good and what isn't. Most people will mess up recordings with an analog EQ just as easily as with a digital one. The same is true for compressors and any other effect processing system. At the end of the day all of this is nonsense. Some artists can produce a beautiful painting with a spray can and others need a hundred different oil and acrylic tubes. Most people can't produce anything of lasting value no matter the tools.
he obviously meant it to use a digital one as the main mastering eq to shape the spectrum, he clearly said that they might've to use it once in a while for surgical eqing and obviously digital can only give that... don't try to pick words and prove yourself, respect the person he's more than ~80, we know how jealous you are of his signal path.
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I attended a mastering session for two singles of mine - and I learned so much in that session, I want to say it was equal to what have learned in my entire career ... Very inspiring guy.
One of the greatest. Thank you Mr Bernie Grundman, we love and appreciate you.
Note°"Make sure you get more than you're losing"
This man's has been the mastering engineer for most of the soundtrack of my youth. From pop to gangster rap, Grundman makes it sound sooooooo good!
Thank you Bernie for making my music more musical. And for these tips. Sounds like Jam and Lewis took a page from your book, too.
I would like to hear the original track before it mastered to hear the difference
Such a great video. As a MWTM paid subscriber I really wish you guys would do another one with Bernie. His wisdom seems boundless and his passion is infectious! He really made me re-evaluate my own attitudes towards gear and the process. Pleeeease get him on again MWTM.
The Boss of Mastering! More of this please!! Thanks!
If his ears are working well enough at his age to do this kind of work, I am inspired and excited :)
At his age i think he can tell the sound is good or bad using his eyes and ears
I spent an hour with Bernie recently and he talked the whole time- Incredible information from a truly magical guy. He would rather be mastering than doing anything else and it shows in his work.
One of the best. I've seen his name on a lot of records.
Great video, I love the detail he goes into for Analog vs Digital, it's always great to have someone with such insane knowledge explain the pros and cons of something, don't think I've ever watched a video on this channel and not learned something I could apply to my own music.
Now there is a difference between Digital and digital according to some it does not sound DSD like PCM. and 24 bit does not sound like 16 bit. not to mention extreme DXD sampled at 352.8 kHz 🧐
Coming up in my era….this guy was THE MAN when it came to good sound….he’s responsible for why I drove around and listened to Dr. Dre all those years.
Bernie Grundman has great ears !
The master of hype free results. 💫
THE Master Masterer.
all millenials need to listen to this man.. he knows mastering..
@@drainer_333 i just like to pick on millenials... and in this particular case, due to technology alot of millenials dont even have the right concepts of what "mastering" is... to many ppl i hear say that they mix and master their songs..basically they mean they put a rediculous amount of plugins on their tracks and they master by putting a limiter on the master... just even the concept of having a second ear is not there.
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Preeeeeeeeach!
This was fascinating and a great watch.
I really like experienced people and I'm sure Bernie can spot very small details in sound that many of us struggle to hear. Mostly because experience tells you what to listen for.
But I'm thinking, If he didn't KNOW that there was a digital EQ used, would he still be able to spot it as he claims, because it has a “sound.”
Not trying to be smart, just curious but somewhat sceptical that he can.
There's many well known sound engineers that claim they can hear analogue gear and digital gear and hearing the “Neve sound” and the “API sound” etc. Maybe they can. But wouldn't it be just so interesting to try this out? I'm pretty confident that it would be difficult to find any volunteers though. Love to see me proven wrong.
I find just passing a signal through SOME pieces of hardware has a very distinctive characteristic, like a manley massive passive or an orban eq. People have set up variations of these types of things in various fb groups and here on you tube. It's a bit like knowing the sound of a particular guitar amp, only so much more subtle. You should give acustica audio a try if you are unaware of them. Immediate notice for me about 10yrs ago from a developer using the same tech. a freebie, R2R tape plugin cdsoundmaster.com
@@davidsteadman1613 I've heard someone say "Michael Brauer" is top at that, and really knows and understands what audio he wants going through what hardware for that "character" it adds... even if he's barely affecting the signal. It's just for the CHARACTER!
If you're listening to vinyl...it'll be a great record if his name is on it.
Preeeeeeeeach!
Refreshing to hear someone speak highly of analog equalizers, i felt l was the only one left
The problem isn't analog or digital. The problem are people who are approaching this with a tribal mindset rather than with science.
Living Legend in Audio right here💯
Also a bullshitter on this one.
Has anybody ever defined what it actually means to call an EQ „ musical“ ? We had that discussion forever back in the days of Midas vs. Yamaha in Live Sound.
I've never really giving it much thought. But in this moment, I'm thinking it's about the Q curve shape and the devices sonics being imparted.
Not that i've heard, but Rupert Neve said in his interwiev that he made his works with a great spirit as being guided...
I wont go there, but i struggle with software synths and i try kitchen sink on them too..only bass is musical.
Golden ratio, fibonacci, fractals, dark matter, ether.. is your answer, but it gets deeper than that, quantum actually. Your nose is working on quantum principles..but it is not in the school books.
I went there quickly, to sum it up, i am looking foward to using analog equipment!
Probably a combination of pleasing harmonic distortion and wide Q.
It's just a marketing term to get people to buy analog gear. You can literary clone any EQ curve you want with modern eqs like FabFilter and iZotope. Musicial = Broad Q e.g. 3 octaves.
A "technical" sounding EQ i the opposite, something, that doesn't support the music.
I’m such a huge fan of Bernie. Just wished he did the last round of the Michael Jackson rereleases. Maybe Sony didn’t want to ship the old tapes around.
Pretty much, mix with your ears, and use what works for your track.
And buy the Neve preamp
If this man teaches you audio I feel like your mixing nothing but platinum albums. He knows his shiznit!
10 years of school in 7:30
only if you didn't pay attention. This was just 101
Bernie Rules!!!
Spectrasonics V610 is super fast.
thank u
We don’t use digital eqs but I’m not saying we don’t use them
Still I'd rather have him mastering, than you
I wonder if he would like the Brainworx Neve plug in?
But aren't there artifacts in the sound of Dynamic Compression? . especially when raising the lowest volume. so that on the weak and loud sounds tones sound the next equally loud. in the worst case, sound cuts the peaks at the 0 line. an example someone is playing real acoustic drums. if you use strong dynamic compression, this drum will sound more like it sounded slow and tough. in relation to recording the drum kit without compression or listening to it live
Do you question Bernie?
Of course there are. Everything you do produces artifacts. Sometimes they are unwanted and sometimes they are wanted for artistic reasons. The only trick is to differentiate between what's good and what isn't. Most people will mess up recordings with an analog EQ just as easily as with a digital one. The same is true for compressors and any other effect processing system. At the end of the day all of this is nonsense. Some artists can produce a beautiful painting with a spray can and others need a hundred different oil and acrylic tubes. Most people can't produce anything of lasting value no matter the tools.
bernie : " we dont use digital eq"
also bernie: "i'm not saying we don't use digital eq, but"
he obviously meant it to use a digital one as the main mastering eq to shape the spectrum, he clearly said that they might've to use it once in a while for surgical eqing and obviously digital can only give that... don't try to pick words and prove yourself, respect the person he's more than ~80, we know how jealous you are of his signal path.
Lol. I heard the same thing and I had to go back and make sure it was just a bad edit.
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woody allen ?
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11 people are incorrect
probably apple users who using airpods for listening music
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