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Vertical GPU + TG actually viable? Let me know your thoughts.
4:30 - correction, 3-slot cards are not compatible since there are only 2 expansion slots. 2-slot cards are probably ideal here anyway to keep some distance against the panel.
will you be checking out the Barrowch Classical case from aliepress. A wooden and glass mini itx case.
I know this would be impossible, but seeing things that they have made before...
Silverstone 3-slot to 2-slot GPU adapter
How much clearance is under the top fans? I would like to place a slim Radiator/slim Fans on a custom Holder with a total height of 37mm there. Will that fit?
Hey mate, only thing you missed is horizontal + tg, some of us wouldn't mind seeing that.
Hi, Can this case accommodate an ATX PSU?
Can't wait for your custom water-cooled loop for this one.
Looking forward to it!!
Same! Might be building one myself but don't know which pump configuration to go for. Would definitely appreciate if different variations of pump configurations such as CPU pump or separate pump and reservoir and their performance impacts. (especially during the EK summer sale)
Same! A 40mm rad sounds amazing with some noctua fans. Pun intended.
Same here bud
Me too!
I'm actually impressed how well this case performed with vertical GPU and glass side panel - this might help bring SFF systems to the more mainstream market (which seems to be obsessed with tempered glass atm).
Tempered glass and rgb master race
You're right, just 4°C from vertical tg and vertical mesh.
But if we think about it, there are 7°C between vertical tg and horizontal mesh, that with modern gpu can easily lead to 200MHz less.
I really don't get how people can trade performance for aesthetic.
I was obsessed with tempered glass and RGB for awhile, but ever since I've switched over to SFF PC's, putting so much power into a small case like this is all I need now. RGB is way too expensive and sometimes detrimental to PC performance.
Id give up TG if it meant I didn't have to look at constant rainbow puke builds.
@@simoSLJ89 Because they are dumb
It would definitely be very interesting to see a full size airflow focused case (maybe the P400A or Meshify C?) thrown into these benchmarks to see just how much of a sacrifice you make going for a SFF build.
He has made one vid comparing ITX temps to mid tower temps, but I agree, it would be a nice addition to the charts
I have a P400A right now and want to get either this or the Lian Li tu150 for my next pc. Itx is just so cool, all the smaller itx cases are impossible to get in Canada unfortunately. The Dancase A4 is awesome
@@yamanmalik_ These are easily found in canada, same with the n1.
@@pumpkin1escobar nr200 isn't small. I meant dancase and the other ones. Ghost and the ncase . I'm probably going to make my first itx in a nr200 tho
*The Noctua U12A (158mm) FITS with Glass Panel* , Techtesters Review were able to Fit 212 Black (158.8mm) with glass panel, your problem was your Second fan is installed higher than the cooler itself by few mm because of your Ram Height (As seen in the Video), with Smaller height ram it will fir just fine
nice buddy. life saver. got the hyper 212 rgb black edition with the Tempered Glass so hopefully it fits!.
niiice, well spotted, will order a noctua U12A then :D
@@Robererion Did this actually fit? From what I saw from the TechTesters review, she even mentioned that it doesn't close which is pretty important for me.
@@drunkntigr does it fit??
@@Robererion does it fit?
What a treat to already have another video on the NR200. Keep them coming! If I had to make a request, it would be to briefly cover more info on which air coolers will fit. I was hoping the Fuma 2 would fit, but now not so sure, especially with the glass panel.
2:35 - Love the new dBA side panel in this graph.
As always, great video, definitely excited to see what you do for a custom loop. The visual polish of the loops you have done is matched only by the polish of your videos and the editing.
By far one of my favorite youtube content creators.
Man, you always put out such quality content. Very in-depth and very engaging, with nothing off-topic or unnecessary. Keep up the great work!
Really liked the way you explain things and how they are presented. Immediately subscribed. Great work!
I'm excited to see what you do next in this case, keep up the good work.
After having no stock for the longest time I finally was able to order my NR200P today from Newegg. Can't wait. Thank you for your reviews and love your builds.
Excellent comparison. Would love to see a similar style video of the H1 with/without the vented front panels people have been selling and with/without slim fans mounted to the back side !
Thank you for clearing up the U12A clearance! I kind of made a mess in the comment section going back and forth, but I'm super relieved to know it'll fit with the mesh side panel. I'm glad you're doing videos on this case, because it seems like only one other channel is. I fully plan on going for this when I upgrade to my 3900X with the NH-U12A (unless the new CPUs are released before then) and my EVGA 1080 Ti.
I'd really love a sound dampening, solid panel option for this case. It looks like if you channel air from the bottom to exhaust out of the top, then it wouldn't really hurt temps any more than a glass panel. And I don't want my PC to have its lights glowing at me.
I am looking forward to see you do a custom loop in this case! Since I saw this case and the possibilities it yields, I knew this will be my new case. I am planning to do a build later this year with this case. Just hope we in South Africa will be able to get this case!
This is a case I’m genuinely excited to get in my sticky hands. I’m glad I switched over to ITX recently because now I can easily move the parts into this case 🤓
Dude, the quality of your videos it's ... magnanimous. Thank you.
ps: I'd love to see more aliexpress cases (you know, because worldwide & always have stock) or something new like "how to design and build your case in home"
Well looks like I found my new media/gaming center living room setup! This is so perfect. Don't need the vertical/glass panel - but the size and the layout look fantastic - and that price...and the overall 'stealth' look (no logos) is so well done.
Great stuff man, thank you. I wonder if putting a GPU waterblock vertical will forfeit the possibility of top exhaust fans (looks that way on the CM website at least). And also if a regular thickness radiator with regular fans would fit below a horizontally mounted GPU waterblock (and if the air can even move around it)... I guess we will see it in tour watercooled build. I swear I wish they made this case juuust a little bit taller.
Just received mine today, very nice quality. Moving from a Define R6 to this little box...starting my custom loop!
Still waiting on the Dan Case C4 but this channel always keeps me foaming at the mouth for sff builds
That case is never going to release it seems. Years and years in the making.
Amped about the custom loop follow up in this case! Could you add a few sandwich layout cases (Ghost S1, Sliger SM5xx to name a few) in the CPU, GPU thermals comparisons as well? Cheers!
sm580 would be great!
I'm strongly considering this case for my next build. I don't think I'll do the vertical mount though, but rather the vented standard layout.
thanks for the update on the Noctua cooler man! Now I am positive I can just swap my system straight over to this case :)
Thanks for another great video on this case. I was in market for an ITX case which could take full fat 6800XT which is reaching ridiculous dimensions for AIB cards. I was looking at powercolor Red Devil or Sapphire Nitro+ and before coming across your video my only option was Silverstone RV01-E with some modifications and without case fans for GPU which would create thermal issues and defeats the purpose of high end gaming PC. While I love small ITX format, they all seem to max out at 2 slot card or you have to compromise CPU cooler, thats where this is a great ITX case for someone like myself looking for small factor without any compromises and future proof at the same time.
Great work as usual, Ali. Makes me want to get one when it reaches the Philippines.
Excited to see the hardline custom loop build! Got my popcorn ready.
Was playing around with my own NR200P and CM ML240L V2. I had it originally in the traditional side mount, but tested a bottom mount last weekend. It was clearly more audible in that configuration. Not super loud, but there was a noticeable hum coming from the pump. In its side mount, it's practically inaudible.
And a vertical GPU isn't really the most space-optimized layout anyway. You sacrifice a ton (no rear fan, no 3.5" HDD, potential interference with top fan, no dedicated pump/res for custom loop) just for having a better view of the GPU. That's the only real issue I have with the case. I hope CM expand further on this case with some sort of top-hat add-on that allows users to mount a rad up top. You only need a 2mm extra clearance to squeeze in a slim 20mm rad and slim 15mm fans. So if a top-hat added 5mm of extra clearance, it would be perfect. The plastic honeycomb design does feel strong enough to support the weight of that at least.
Nice. Still probably gonna roll with a k39 build, but its good to see more mainstream SFF stuff.
Heck, FSP and Silverstone are both releasing / have released black 500w flex atx PSUs with decent cables and acoustic performance
Seems like a two radiator custom loop could easily fit with a side + bottom rad layout and a tiny pump / CPU pump+wb combo :)
I would definitely do it for my next build :3
Cheers for the video.
Wonder if you've seen the metalfish s5. Finding it a very interesting ~13L mATX case from China.
I think Linus just built a system in that, no?
Oh haven't checked linus' video will take a look.
Okay, I've posted two comments that I've had to delete so far. Immediately after I comment you mention my exact query. I really should just watch til the end! Loving your coverage of the NR200!
great! I'm willing to see that custom loop in action
Definitely waiting for that custom hard-line loop!
I pre-ordered it. Hope your get a little kick back from it. Can't wait to see the cooling performance.
I was waiting for this video to see if this config was viable. Thanks!
Great work mate! Would love to see you use two rads for your custom loop video.
Great vid Ali - curious if you have seen or planned to do a quick review on ID Cooling's new IS47K low profile cooler?
Ali, have you thought about creating some kind of database for temperature and dBA results for all of the cases you test? I think it could be really cool to see all of your data in one place. It would also be super helpful for those shopping for a new case with specific needs in mind.
Curious to see how a NH-C14 would perform in this case? It seems to be the best air cooling solution in NCase M1 when running an all exhaust setup.
Your videos are among the best quality. Knowledge and elegance at a high level.
I can't wait to see how you do the custom loop in this thing. I may just switch out my nzxt h200 for the nr200p.
I'm impressed by the quality of your videos!
Did you check if the beQiet Dark Rock 4 fits in too? I know you said in your last NR200 video that it wouldn't fit, but i'm curious since its 1mm more in the height than the Noctua.
I wanted to go with the Noctua NH-U12A but while watching your video noticed that its really "visible" through the big holes in the side panel. I would prefer a clean
black look with the beQuiet.
Cheers!
really great channel certainly the best SFF know-how out there and great video quality.
I am floating maybe a silly idea which is to shrink my MATX rig with a VEGA64 LC (120mm rad) and Ryzen also watercooled with an IDcooling Frost flow AIO(240mm rad) into this great little case. But I am struggling to assess a robust "How and where placing the Rads?". was thinking about teh CPU rad at the bottom and the GPU rad at the top in pull config but afraid the latter will clash with either Motherboard or the PSU cage. I cant think about any Option that would work but if people here have recommendations, its much appreciated. thanks so much
Could you do a whole video on building in and hardware for the NR200p? Or even coolers and mounting options.
I'm looking forward to the best way to cool this case video.
I'm very curious on how you are going to do a hard line loop in this case, cannot wait for that video! I do wish though that there was an option to put the rad up top, the EK Phoenix serious is not suppose to be put on the bottom like that. I will have to go with the traditional set up to use those rads..
Hey OptimumTech, thanks for the reviews and builds. I was wondering if it's possible to configure a dual AIO in this case. 1 for the CPU and an NZXT G12 for example. Thanks again!
Congrats on 300k
I literally just built a monster 2080ti 3900x build, and I'm buying this case just so I don't have to worry about it still existing when I build my next computer. Love this case. So many options for such a small case!
CM really blew it out of the park with this case in terms of both performance AND price. Honestly I no longer see a reason to have to deal with the wait and cost of all the other super popular cases considering how great and cheap this case is.
This case has to be the new king in this segment.
Awesome video content and presentation. Thumbs up!!
great reviews. keep it up. i have a question after seeing other videos about rad orientation. putting the rad on the bottom of this case, would it cause air to enter the pump and eventually damaging the pump.
Can't wait to see the custom loop version about this!
Cant wait to see the custom loop, if it looks nice & performs im definitely getting one and upgrading from the NCASE M1.
UPGRADING from the NCASE M1?? :\
Been waiting for this video!
Damn I'm early! This case is going to be the go-to for a lot of people going for itx! Great to see it become more and more mainstream.
Super keen to see a custom CPU and GPU loop in this with rads top and bottom.
It's nice to hear an affordable sff case actually has good thermals considering the price premium on mitx boards.
Thank you very much. I realize this review is 'older', but this is the case I want. I was able to buy a RTX 3080 Ti FE at Best Buy yesterday (waited from 2AM - 7:30AM in the parking lot) and so now finally will build a new PC. I'll be using the mesh side. Thank you again for your time.
Congrats with the gpu bro. The case is amazing bro. I have a 3090 in it and temps are amazing.
that vertical gpu with hard line sounds cool, but what I really want to see is a dual radiator system like in the Ncase M1
Looking forward to the 280+240 full custom water cooling loop review!
For vertical mounting of a GPU, is the Noctua NH-L12S a viable option for CPU cooling with fans in the bottom and top of the case? Keep up the great videos!
Push pull possible on the bottom radiator placement? Or not enough clearance? Love the content as always mate!
Would LOVE to see you build a custom loop in this case!
I like the new charts format!
thanks man cant wait to see custom loop
Would be keen to see a review on the SGPC K55 which can be found on both AliExpress and taobao
When putting together the custom loop video, could you include results from the FormD T1 in the benchmarks for comparison? It would be nice to see FormD T1, NCase M1, Ghost S1, and the CM NR200/P in the same list.
Can you upload tutorials on how you make videos! Your videos are clean & crisp!
Great video! Which full build should I go for this case?
Its being released tommorow, so .. I really hope Optimum could highlight how big this thing actually is compared to most of the other SFF cases
If possible could you do an air cooler benchmark in this case? like the scythe fuma 2 or the mugen 5 and other small towers... pls... :)
Great review I have ever seen on cooler master case.
The Dark Rock TF might fit nicely, since it's shorter than the NH-U12A...
Really interested to see your custom loop for inspiration!
Wanted something a bit smaller than the Lian Li TU150, but cheaper than an NCase M1.
Your initial video on this case made me buy it immediately sothanks for being punctual and thorough. Keep it up, you're making the best reviews on TH-cam.
The only minor trade off I can see going with the NR200 over the TU150 is being limited to 153mm CPU cooler height whereas the TU150 will take anything. However, the better airflow might make going with a smaller CPU cooler a trade off. It's a shame how close the NR200 just misses being able to fit Fuma 2, Dark Rock 4, and the others. Not sure how many air coolers better than the U9S will fit in both mesh/window configurations.
@@ryanlemieux3323 yeah that's very true, however I did like the idea of running the vertical GPU, showing off the hardware. For this, the water cooler would be appropriate anyhoo, so no real loss for me there!
Thanks for the comment :)
@@kyleww95 Oh yes, you're golden if watercooling!
Would've loved to see a build with TG and gpu at bottom. Maybe it will block airflow too much, but I prefer that aesthetic, to the gpu fan look.
i just build an itx with the inwin A1 plus... so tempted to make another one witth this case!!!
I'm so attracted to this case! TY CM!
Already ordered mine! Love from Singapore!
Great video! How well do you think it will support mini-DTX motherboards? I have the Crosshair VIII Impact which uses the DIMM.2 for SSD's and therefore sticks out a bit. Do you think it will interfere with the GPU when using the vertical or normal mount?
Ohhh i'm gonan get that case for my next build! i'm not a fan of watercooler but that is just me
Love ya man, very valuable video!
SUper lookingforward to a custom loop in this case, will you also be water cooling the GPU?
Could I ask your opinion? I love what you're showing us with the NR200 line, but I love my Cougar QBX too. In your opinion, is the NR200/NR200P good enough to justify jumping from the QBX? My biggest concern with the QBX is compatibility. It doesn't fit my NH-C14S, and I had to sell my GTX 1070 Gaming X because I would've needed to take a hacksaw to the case to make anything much bigger than a reference height design fit, which is going to severely limit my next-gen card options.
This is the most versatile SFF case i've seen so far...
Its also on the bigger side of the chart tho (17/18L) if you need a really compact pc i would try to stick below ncase size. That being said if you don't mind the extra size this case rocks. It has insane airflow
@@Matpermad you right, but I personally will choose this case instead of DAN A4 or Ghost S1 since those cases require very specific cooling solutions, and upgrading parts in the future is also quite challenging as well. Furthermore, the NR200 is cheaper as well.
Cerberus X is more versatile and still under 20L.
that being said, I have a Cerberus X, and have ordered an NR200P for another one of my builds ;)
Hey! I recently bought this case mainly because of your first video on it. However, I am curious what the temps are with the dust filters (if you have done tests with them)? I noticed your tests are without.
Surely by running the vented panel you could run a full negative pressure setup very similar to the sliger SM580, which shiuld produce very impressive thermal results
Nice video. Nice case. 80 bucks is good vs 200 + bucks for premium case like m1 , mjonir or dan a4. Etc looking forward for water cooling video
Will literally swap my thermaltake core v1 as soon as it comes out.
A little out there question: could you fit a kraken 140mm aio to cool gpu with 280mm cooling the cpu?
This is amazing news, that vertical GPU setup is so choice!
Do you think when you make a hardline closed loop vid for this case, you could include steps on how to bleed the system with a bottom mount rad to ensure pump longevity?
Really interested in vertical mounted strix temperature since its closer to side panel but got decent heatsink/3fan compared to fe.
Could you use bifurcation to get one of the smallest SLI rigs? I'm thinking a mini workstation running a 3950x and a couple 2080 supers or something would be pretty awesome. Slightly better performance than your sliger threadripper micro atx build in an even smaller case would be awesome!
I hope you can put a dual rad setup in here like the ncame M1 video. Im aiming to do that build
This vertical layout should be insanely good with the RTX 3080. It'll look the part too.
Nice stuff bro I like this case. I'm very interested in the g12 nzxt mod. Can you maybe show how to fit into mini itx pc cases you got.
Seems like for full air cooled build a C14s or even Wraith Spire would be better for airflow. Top down would work in conjunction with the top fans exhausting.
It would be interesting to test CPU cooling configurations and clearances. With differents coolers and panels.
I want to see thermals results for the glass panel with two exhaust fans at the top, an Scythe Fuma 2 set to pull air in from the rear, and a 2.5 slot gpu at the bottom.
Will the glass help the top fans create enough negative pressure to help pull air in through the back and bottom?
Would it be better to go with a short gpu and keep the cpu fans front to back?
So many configurations to test.
I think vertical mount with metal vented side panel would be worth a look too. Not everyone is bothered about TG, vertical gpu with side cold air feed is an interesting idea