Introducing Foil Drive Assist PLUS
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 15 ก.ย. 2024
- Everything of the Foil Drive Assist you have come to know and love PLUS a little bit more!
Want a little bit more thrust as a bigger rider?
Love the idea of longer run times or the ability to e-foil your existing gear?
The Assist PLUS is for you!
Shipping for the Assist PLUS is due to commence March 2022
Foil Drive Assist PLUS is available at www.foildrive.... and our growing number of stockists around the world.
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I'm 92kg atm and was out on my Plus today on a Naish Hover 110L Jet 2000 wing 450 stabilizer with plenty of power for efoiling.
Thanks for all your feedback Paul! Your feedback as a customer has really helped shape this product for the flat water e-foiling use case!
This is unreal guys! Great video.
Just ordered! I loved using my FoilDrive on my inland lake all of last year and I’m super stoked for this upgrade to land on my doorstep. Yew! 🤙
Stoked to hear it mate!
Great idea guys. Definitely outside the box.
Thanks mate!
Well done
I live in a place in Central Queensland with very small weak wind swell generated waves (usually about waist high occasionally bigger if its a ground swell from the NE) that break close to shore and want to get on the wave (prone foil) much earlier well before it starts to break, maybe 50 meters further out. I am just under 80kg. Do I need the plus or regular foil drive ?
Either is going to give you a massive boost to get up on foil faster. The Assist still provides around 6 times your human paddling strength, it just doesn't quite have the run time, thrust and features of the Assist PLUS. So really it comes down to budget and how much you want to paddle. Please also keep in mind both systems are designed for SUP's or larger Prone boards with decent volume. See Dominic Hosykns videos about small board with the Foil Drive. Basically you need to keep the box above the water level when your getting started for the wireless link to the controller to function. If you have further questions the Foil Dive Owners Group on Facebook is a great place for real world customer feedback and experience and feel free to email support@foildrive.com if you don't find the info you need on the group or our website.
-Ben
Does that mean you can use smaller front wings?
will the aluminum propeller be available as an upgrade for the standard Assist?
The alloy props were specifically designed for the PLUS. While the alloys will fit the current Assist, we have not completed testing on their performance on the water in real life. We have had a very early report from a customer/tester that they may have a bit less top end thrust than the Standard White props however this has not been varified by us yet.
On the PLUS where they were designed for, it is a noticible difference in top en thrust and effeciency smoothness. We will do a whole video talking about the alloy props on the PLUS. Surface driving (ie prop not fully underwater) the Alloys vs the Standard whites is a crazy difference!
@@foildrive A aluminium prop with more pitch for top end speed may be another good additional prop option.
Sounds awesome. Just ordered the assist plus . Just a ? . Do all those 5 improvements come with the new assist plus package. Thanks
Hows going? Arrived?
Awesome! I look forward to learning more. I hope that at some point you will do a video specifically focused on using these drives as an assist for wing foiling on flat water.
I did see Dominic Hoskyns' video, which was helpful. A little confused about how the hand controller works when winging... I wonder if the paddle mount works with the boom on the Duotone slick?
@@RikkHansen Hey mate,
yeah this is deffinatly something we are lacking on content for. To be compleatly honest our team and local crew here are all pretty keen on surf foiling or Down Winding so its hard to get footage!
The controller mount should be able to mount to a Duotone boom, we have also seen people use a length of electrical conduit or other tube that gets secured between two handles and then the controller mount on there.
Due to the many different types of wings and personal prefrence ect its hard to have a one size fits all solution for the wings like we do for a paddle which is very constant and really only one way to grab them!
Cheers BEn
@@foildrive Hi Ben, do you see an issues mounting the controller on a wing with soft handles (ie.e no bar)? Any DIY videos or pics you could point me to? thx
@@george2036 We have seen some crew just use duct tape or zip ties/straps to secure to soft handles. Alternatively just having the controller on a leach on your wrist works totally fine for me. You can hold the wing with a few fingers and the controller with the remainder and once your up and flying you can just drop the controller on the lanyard. Personally this is what i do with any type of handle. - Ben
@@george2036 Hi George, I'd suggest jumping on our facebook owners group and searching the key word Wing. There's a lot of different techniques that people are using on their wings with the controller, most opt to just hold it and once up letting it hang from your wrist. Others have made a poly pipe shim to go around their soft handle then use the paddle mount.
Amazing
What's the power of plus?
Awesome Stuff can't wait to buy it! does people do extra security to the box incase of wipeouts in the surf?
I wonder who will be the 1st to put the box inside the board !!
We have a few different install options - The most secure being our mounting Base Plate. This attaches using foot strap holes/screws, the box is then attaches to the plate and a strap over the top.
Something always has to give, as why we use the Dual Lock, in combination with the strap you'd be smooth sailing in most conditions!
We have multiple customers who have already custom made boards to recess the box, part of the bonus of our retro-fit design is being able to swap and change as little or as much as you like when it comes to the set up!
@@foildrive Awesome reply as always.
Thanks alot, looking forward to get one. 🎊👍😎
how much time or playing minutes the plus can do?
Hi Paul, it depends on numerous variables like rider weight, foil selection and how trigger happy you are. A rider of around 80kg on large wings can expect around 30-40 minutes
Nice rig. Is the battery chemistry Li-ion or LiFePO4?
Lithium-Ion
So can we add to existing system. Too excited to see if it’s in the video
Unfortunatly it is not practical nor economical to upgrade existing Assist systems to the new Assist PLUS as all of the electronics are different, box layout, battery capacity and voltage, chargers ect
@@foildrive Yes but it it possible to buy the battery/box/cable/motor and still use the old throttle and foil mount to save a bit of cost on an upgrade?
@@koonzietwo It's simply not economical for both parties to swap over parts, hence is something we do not offer or support.
How does the motor deal with salt water? It doesn’t look like a sealed system? How is Longevity?
Motor is fully sealed internally and ceramic bearings. We have motors both in house and with some of our early test riders that are 2 years old that are still looking and running fresh! The key with any marine equipment is propper cleaning and care after every use and when in storage.
So basically it became Efoil?
We believe it still sits in a class of its own when it comes to flat water foiling. A "traditional" e-foil is super heavy, super powerful and has long endurance. The Assist PLUS is still super light weight at only 3.7kg and is still a retro-fit kit for your existing gear.
Some riders may prefer 1.5hr run time and burning around at 50km/hr on an e-foil but for us we prefer light weight, nimble and using our exising surf, wing and DW gear on days there is not much happening or to practice pumping turning, teaching others ect.
For surfing, DW its just everything of the current Assist, just plus a little more!
Unlocking more fun things in different ways really!
@@foildrive I tried a Lift efoil. Heavy and long runtime. Kinda fun.
Light way more appealing.
I'm 65kg and I have a 75L , 5ft board.
How long does you battery last on flat water? (Roughly.)
In the vid you seem to be using bigger boards and paddles. How long can I ride with those?
I would use an efficient foil.
(I understand when on the wave no energy is used.)
@@lonoami I'm 65kg and i have deffinatly foiled around economically for over 50min with an AXIS BSC1120 and PNG 1150.
Paul at 95kg on the Axis HPS 1050 can get 30mins without thinking too much about foiling efficiently. We are going to try find time to do a one-shot video of longest possible run time for different weight riders.
Ben
The battery failed after less than a month. The whole kit is not usable now because the battery cannot charge.
Hey Geoffrey,
As explained in our ongoing email conversation, we are more than willing to support the product 100% and we are working with you to determine the cause of the issue so we can send you the correct replacement parts under warranty. You will be back in the water enjoying your gear as soon as practically possible. Ben
My eyes glazed when you used the nonsense word, functionality, instead of function🤫.
How can you manufacture during a Reset(Cull)☠ and supply chain collapse?