Check my channel for some EOS M 2.5K RAW videos. They are just tests, made in a hurry and shot hand held, but you get the idea, what this lovely little camera is capable to achieve. BTW, thanks for giving good instructions, how to set the camera for 2.5K recording. It's been asked from me countless times, but I never got time to make a video of it.
By default if you hold the shutter button halfway while in 2.5k recording mode, you'll get a low framerate full preview of what you're actually recording. No need for guesswork when framing your shots.
After the video ended I checked your subs and expected like 200000+ subs. But 10000. This channel deserves so much more, the lighting, production design, editing is top notch mate. While these things don't always seem important, because after all it's just an informatic video, it's just so much nicer to look at.
Thank You! I haven't tried 2.5k or RAW on mine yet (ordered a new SD Card after watching this video.) but have had decent results using the 3X Movie Crop mode with both the Canon EF-M 22 f/2 stm and a 35mm F1.6 C-Mount lens, Cinestyle color profile, and shooting handheld with a powered gimbal. The C-Mount lens is a soft manual focus prime that has some pretty strong distortions at the edge of the frames but with the 3X crop you end up not capturing the most distorted parts anyway.
Geezus man....why do you not have more subscribers, you're easily on par with several of the million+ subs. keep up the great...amazing work. This is awesome.
Thanks for the video. You got me very curious and I took the plunge. I got an EOS M to see what that camera can do with Magic Lantern and learn more about video at the same time. Your channel is a great place to start.
Great production quality, very personable and easy to listen to, and interesting subject matter! Subscribed! Can't wait for more, I'm interested in trying this out myself!
I think that you are right about the crop. I own two EOS-Ms, have Magic Lantern but never tried RAW. It does produce very good video without the need for RAW. I know that some people would think that quite heretical but I'm not sure that RAW is worth that much hassle. I own several adapters for vintage lenses for the EOS-M. I also have a focal reducer for M42 so I can use old Soviet glass like the Mir 1B and Helios 44 as if I were shooting full frame. That all said, the video is the best I've seen showing how to actually try RAW on the EOS-M.
Great video, thanks! Had been able to put my hands on this camera but haven't tried the RAW function yet. Just a quick question - does 3,33x crop adds up to 1,6 crop of camera itself or it is 3,33x crop in full frame equivalent?
That’s a great question! I haven’t done any scientific tests on it. I can’t say for sure but I believe it’s 3.33x from full frame. Don’t quote me on that but that’s what I think.
Awesome video man I'm glad I stumbled across this. I'm a blackmagic pocket 4k user and I've been having some audio issues with it and this looks like something that could quench my hunger lol. Thanks again for the video.
Just found your channel! Great production value and awesome content. I have an ML EOS M and now I wanna start making shit as you’ve explained the 2.5k raw modules which no other channel has done as of yet. Subbed 👌🏻
Still no response? Poor guy, it must have blew up on him while he was trying to work on it. No man could defeat him, only a camera upgrade could... R.I.P Marshall arts guy
Great pair of videos for the EOS M. Just bought one a month ago and loving it. Still have to mod my 10-18mm which I accidentally screw loose so I could use it with my viltrox speedbooster. Thanks for the great insight.
I might have to do that! I picked up an old cctv “16mm film” lens and it shoots quite differently from the EOS lens. Could be a fun “final chapter” video.
Wow amazing video, thanks a lot! I have a question, is the 2.5k the only mode that crops, for example I see two other modes on the scripts menu called “mv1080p_12bit...”, do they use the full sensor or do they crop as well? Edit: Basically, can you shoot uncropped with this camera and still get some decent codecs? :)
@@garrettsammons Actually, they changed the firmware base. The M's after the original are based on Powershot firmware rather than EOS. CHDK which modifies Powershot firmware similar to Magic Lantern(they are actually the original hackers) has firmware for the M3 that does a lot of the same stuff as Magic Lantern. chdk.setepontos.com/index.php?topic=12542.490
Hey Garret, I've really been enjoying your recent vids. I have a question. Do you own the blackmagic design video assist? or a ninja or shogun? I wonder what would happen if we hook up the eos m to these recorders...
Fire intro for the EOS M , Canon might as well sponsor a makingmovies video lol First 5 seconds GOLD , Nice shots with the camera , When that lens comes in that you ordered will we see more footage?
Great video!!! Now that I know firmware hacks exist there is some real fun to be had with older cameras. I can only imagine the experimenting you had to go through to get this working. Would love to more videos of taking older cameras and tweaking with firmware hacks.
@@garrettsammons would be amazing you've inspired me to head down a rabbit hole on old cameras. I think for "artsy" and budget productions it could be amazing.
How sharp is the footage compare to some of the newer canon aspc camera (70d, 80d, m5-6, m50). I looked at Vimeo footage you posted and it looked pretty sharp. I have always found the default eos-m footage super mushy.
It’s honestly surprisingly good. I think cropping in on the sensor is the key. Fewer pixels at a truer resolution. That said, I think if you used better glass (L-series with a speed booster) you’d get even better images. This little kit lens is good, but not incredible.
Making Movies, The “movie crop” mode in ML gives better results than standard video too. I have used a few lenses on the eos-m, and good glass does make a big difference. The nifty fifty on the m is pretty nice too, as a cheap lens that gives good results. New sub, looking forward to your future videos.
very impressive! Need more subs! Question. how does the camera handle with over heating. I'm looking at this just for a bit of fun. maybe give myself a challenge and see if I can record a short film on a proper budget. I know other mirrorless cameras over heat and was wondering how it did with prolonged shooting.
I really like this channel and your story. Its pretty crazy where life takes you. I watched the full res clip. I was wondering what shots you took with the vintage vivitar lens? Any photos I can check out ? I really want to get into vintage lenses. I think this will be my first mirrorless I play with.
None of the clips in that sequences were shot with the vintage lens. I've been playing with it more though and am really liking the look. I may do a follow-up with that lens to show what a vintage vibe looks like.
I haven’t pushed the limit. I think the longest I ever recorded was 2 minutes, but that’s just because of how long I wanted the shot to be, not any limitation.
Magic Lantern is such a huge advantage Canon has over all the other companies.. All of them should actually open up their firmware to at least some kind of scripting. No reason not to, just put a disclaimer in that it will void your warranty.
Amazing shots! Thank you for such a clear tutorial and sharing the actual ML build! I do have one question. I am using the same SD card and followed it to the letter. Everything matches your tutorial until I get to 7:44. Under "RAW video" mine remains at "ON, 0x0" just like yours shows at 7:38. How does this setting change?
@@garrettsammons Thank you for the reply. I have tried several times and at some point it almost looked like there was some progress since the "RAW video" setting changed although not with the same values as yours but to "ON, 1736x976 4.83x. The script stops and a message about "Black 1/5: mean too different" is displayed. The "mv1080p_12bit_iso100_24fps" script does work (with this script the setting "RAW video" is "ON, 1736x584 1.61x"), but with both "5x_2.5k_10bit..." I get an error when running them. Anyway, I will keep on trying. Thanks again for your help :-)
I don’t know if you’ll see this but you REAAAAAAALLLY should try this with the original 6D. Full frame removes the crop and you can make a proper rig with that camera 👀
Very interesting review, I'm thinking about getting this lil fella myself soon and your review makes me wonder how much can a speed booster improove the crop factor
Hi! The format directly out of this camera is magic lantern raw, which no NLE can read. I put up a video on how to transcode the footage to make it into a readable format here: th-cam.com/video/UYboGulOi0g/w-d-xo.html
Hello, I was wondering if the EOS M could shoot continuous at 1080p at a 4x3(1436 x 1080) aspect ratio? I am planning on shooting a short film this summer and want to get better quality video than what my Fuji xt1 can get. I have a Kowa 2x anamorphic that I plan on using so I'd like to shoot at 4x3 so that I get a 2.4 aspect ratio after the stretch. My main concern is that the EOS M has a limited record time at anything deeper than 10 bit at that ratio but I can not find specific information about it and I would like to know for curtain before pulling the trigger on buying one. Thank you.
Hi William, I’m unsure about 4:3. It’s been awhile since I’ve looked at this little camera. There may be someone lurking in the comments with the answer you’re looking for.
Hi! Thanks for the video! Could you be more specific about the color correction/grading for the test shots? And could you provide a link to some of your original footage to fiddle with? :D
Making Movies Thanks for a fast answer! :) I am starving to see if the colors were that good right from the camera or you dialed in the look yourself in post!
Hi, just found your 2 videos regarding the EOS M, I’m going through the same process as you, bought the camera and lens cheap £125 here in the UK, and loaded Magic Lantern, having a few issues but seem to be going in the right direction. Question, are you bothered about recording sound? As soon as you change the FPS it disables the sound recording, or have you found a work around. Also having exposure issues when the FPS is changed, purple zebra zones appear on any white surface and are recorded on the video. I usually use LUMIX G80 for video, which as you know does everything well, so why are we messing around with this old redundant camera which is difficult to set up? Seems to be a bit of a cult following and set up at the moment and I have to say that the video I have shot so far has a certain something, just not sure what it is yet.
I think the only thing that makes the EOS M interesting is shooting 2.5k RAW. The script makes it easy to consistently load the proper settings. That said, I’ve never played with Fran rates outside of 23.976. I don’t think it’ll handle well dealing with higher frame rates in RAW. As far as the dynamic range goes, I just trust the waveforms. I wouldn’t think it could be trustworthy by eye. I haven’t played with the G80 but I wouldn’t use the EOS M as a primary shooter. It’s too funky of a workflow to make sense.
I am actually planning to order a couple of these for a movie I am making this coming summer. We figured for the price with the hack, it's a great deal for a nice look as well! Thank you for the video, it helped us decide!
Thanks a lot, I've been trying to find how to use that hack, but seems it was just missing from the ML version I've found. Worked perfect with yours and image looks amazing!
Great video, I'm getting one soon and was wondering how cropped it would be if I used a small 25mm lens on it, would it be too cropped or would it be useable do u recon, Thanks, :-D
With the 3.33x crop, you’re 25mm would behave somewhere around an 83mm lens. Something that is still completely useable, but by no means a wide/angle lens.
I haven’t played with the new iterations of ML for this camera, but as far as this build goes it cannot shoot in 60fps. They went for resolution of frame rates for some reason.
that was a great tutorial, just brought this camera ( unrelated to the video ) and i was wondering about magic lantern. it's good to know that if/when i out grow the camera i can potentially mod it and get a whole new lease of life from it. :)
I picked up an original EOS-M about a year ago and have been rocking it with Magic Lantern ever since. It's pretty solid, But I also have been using a 70D and wow. That's so much faster. Not saying the EOS-M isn't one of the perfect learning cameras but it is slow to do just about everything.
I've been CANON from before the xl1 and xl2 cams ----- but for once I am thinking of buying something else, what do you think of the new black magic pocket cinema 4k? yes, i know, each camera is meant for depending the kind of project one is filming, but the footage that I've been seeing from the pocket cinema 4k for the price range is CRAZY!!!
It looks super promising! Same sensor as the GH5s and I’m loving what that little camera does. I need to get my hands on it before I can give it a proper thumbs up though. Black Magic cameras haven’t impressed me in the past with the exception of the Ursa Mini Pro 4.6k. For studio work, that camera is awesome.
Really interested in getting one (to go along with my A7 III for a different look/feel) Do you have any more test footage or feedback? It’s been 2 months now, would love to get some feedback / new tests.
I haven’t shot anything else with it yet. I’ve mainly been using it as an overhead camera (which is why I bought it). I think I’m going to play with the raw more over the holiday though.
Thank you for an amazing guide and stunning footage that made me touch this camera again! I was able to shoot 2.5k as you described but once I run 1080 script (both ISO 100 and 800) the footage seems to be broken - only a half of frame is displayed and nothing below horizontal line. Have you tried these mods and maybe be there were additional tweaks? Thanks in advance!
Checked out the full resolution. Colors look great, but nothing looks sharp. Are you using vintage lenses? Looked like one or 2 of the clips were shot through a window, so I'll excuse those. Anyway, great edits.
You’re absolutely right! One of the complaints about this camera when it came out (as a photo camera) was it wasn’t very sharp. All the footage I shot was with that kit lens. Again, if you had better glass it would help. I just don’t think it would compare to a native high resolution RAW camera in any way.
I'm really considering getting one of these based on your video here. One piece of information I can't seem to find anywhere though is how well do those CCTV lenses work in the x3.33 crop mode? Do you have any insight on this?
@@Altcine Sadly not, I got a couple of batteries and 16+32GB SD cards though (not the type for video, but a nice touch). Most 1st gen Ms seem to go for that kind of price on eBay UK. I'm thinking of getting the Viltrox AF speedbooster when it comes out, as I have a few EF lenses.
Scipt name was ISO100. Is there any ISO limit for this function? And also, very important, what is your workflow for this RAW files. How to handle it, and isn't it horrible experience. Also what is the widest lens for this EOS-M system?
Great questions! The script auto sets your ISO to 100 but you can use whatever ISO level you’d like. I have found that 800 is the absolute highest I’d take it, as you start to get that digital noise that makes the footage less usable. My post workflow for the RAW files is an app for Mac called MLV App. I’m not sure if it’s also supported on PC or not but it’s a super light-weight, transcoding software that allows you to export MLV files into any format/codec you’d like. The EOS M has an APS-C sensor, so with the right adapter, you can put as wide a lens as you’d want to on it. I’m going to explore this a little more because the 3.33x crop is so serious!
Native lenses has the 22mm which is the equivalent of 35mm on a full frame. When the EOS-M went out of production, before the new ones came in, dealers panicked and I got two 22mm lenses from China for £50 each, new.
Hey do you get autofocus on your GH5??? I'm using literally an identical lens setup to you, save for a blackmagic pocket 4K body and cant figure it out
I’m not sure about the autofocus function on the BMPCC4K. The menu structure is entirely different from Panasonic, even though they share the same sensor. Sorry 😐
Hi. New to your channel, as a EOS M owner I an intrigued by this hack. Have you tried putting any other lenses on it? My biggest issue with the EOS M is battery life but other than that its pretty nifty. I'm definitely going to give it a go, thanks for providing files.
Great video! I've been shooting some 2.5k raw video with this camera, but the image shaking was severe, I tried to stabilize it in Premiere but not very satisfied... Got any advice?
Yah this little dude is super lightweight and has no IBIS. I’d always recommend locking it down or putting it on some sort of stabilization rig: gimbal, flycam, slider, etc. if you want to move it around.
I’m not sure off the top of my head... I do know each camera is a little different with the ML hacks. So you may need to check out their website to see the specs for each camera.
Mate this is crazy! If I knew this was possible ealier, I should have bought this camera rather than buying a Canon Eos M50. I wanted to know if you think it's possible to shoot RAW on a Canon m50 or any other canon camera? Thank you.
Thank you Garret for this Video ... very usefull. But sorry, the Link to the EOS M Magic Lantern download doesn't work anymore. Du you have another Link?? bruno
SD-UHS.MO is not in my magic lantern menu... I can set everything else but not that and I cannot figure out how to get 2.5 k RAW on my EOS M by following your instructions because of the lack of this... I noticed you were opening up the 2018 July 3rd magic lantern but yours was different then mine at the end of the file name it said 1080p... are you using a special version I can’t seem to find? I would appreciate any help you could throw my way... thanks
![Canon EOS M Best EASY Settings for RAW VIDEO on my Favourite M-CAM [2020] | 1080+2.5K Magic Lantern](/img/n.gif)
What would you shoot with this tiny camera?
I would shoot the hit movie "Steel," staring Shaquille o Neal. If you haven't seen it I would highly recommend it.
Check my channel for some EOS M 2.5K RAW videos. They are just tests, made in a hurry and shot hand held, but you get the idea, what this lovely little camera is capable to achieve. BTW, thanks for giving good instructions, how to set the camera for 2.5K recording. It's been asked from me countless times, but I never got time to make a video of it.
Forgot to mention, that you get to see the correct framing by pressing shutter release half way.
Really?! That’s super helpful! Thanks. I’ll definitely check out your test footage 🙏
im gonna try shooting a cross country documentary !
By default if you hold the shutter button halfway while in 2.5k recording mode, you'll get a low framerate full preview of what you're actually recording. No need for guesswork when framing your shots.
This is great news! I didn’t know that was a feature but that helps a ton. Thanks! 🙏
If you do that the settings restore and you have to change them back?
@@garrettsammons what settings will you recommend for someone who would want to shot a feature film with this.
Always cool to see classic EOS M updates for ML and video settings! 👏👍
After the video ended I checked your subs and expected like 200000+ subs. But 10000. This channel deserves so much more, the lighting, production design, editing is top notch mate. While these things don't always seem important, because after all it's just an informatic video, it's just so much nicer to look at.
Thanks so much!!!
Thank You!
I haven't tried 2.5k or RAW on mine yet (ordered a new SD Card after watching this video.) but have had decent results using the 3X Movie Crop mode with both the Canon EF-M 22 f/2 stm and a 35mm F1.6 C-Mount lens, Cinestyle color profile, and shooting handheld with a powered gimbal. The C-Mount lens is a soft manual focus prime that has some pretty strong distortions at the edge of the frames but with the 3X crop you end up not capturing the most distorted parts anyway.
Geezus man....why do you not have more subscribers, you're easily on par with several of the million+ subs. keep up the great...amazing work. This is awesome.
I still own that eos m camera for many years now. still works fine with me.
Thanks for the video. You got me very curious and I took the plunge. I got an EOS M to see what that camera can do with Magic Lantern and learn more about video at the same time. Your channel is a great place to start.
Beautiful intro for that EOS M!!
Great production quality, very personable and easy to listen to, and interesting subject matter! Subscribed!
Can't wait for more, I'm interested in trying this out myself!
Thanks for the love David!
I love your transitions and editing.
Appreciate the love man!
Interesting. The crop makes it a dealbreaker for me, but very neat! I wish Magic Lantern was available for the 6D Mark II T_T
I love the 6D Mark II! Solid camera all around.
They're working on it. If you have a 6Dmk2 you should go volunteer for testing at least, if not for actually writing the code.
I think that you are right about the crop. I own two EOS-Ms, have Magic Lantern but never tried RAW. It does produce very good video without the need for RAW. I know that some people would think that quite heretical but I'm not sure that RAW is worth that much hassle. I own several adapters for vintage lenses for the EOS-M. I also have a focal reducer for M42 so I can use old Soviet glass like the Mir 1B and Helios 44 as if I were shooting full frame. That all said, the video is the best I've seen showing how to actually try RAW on the EOS-M.
just get a speedbooster ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
@@PassportToPimlico Have you tried this with the Viltrox EF-EOS M2? Hoping to get it working with the Sigma 18-35/1.8 with AF.
Man, i love this. I love seeing and hearing about some epic hacks to bring the lower cost cameras into the mega stats range. Thank you for sharing!
Glad to help man! I try to keep an ear to the ground on gear. More cool stuff coming shortly!
well... i'm on board, dude. i'll be here ready for you to share!
Much love! 🙏
damn the quality! this channel is severely underrated
Great video, thanks! Had been able to put my hands on this camera but haven't tried the RAW function yet.
Just a quick question - does 3,33x crop adds up to 1,6 crop of camera itself or it is 3,33x crop in full frame equivalent?
That’s a great question! I haven’t done any scientific tests on it. I can’t say for sure but I believe it’s 3.33x from full frame. Don’t quote me on that but that’s what I think.
@@garrettsammons Thanks for reply! Keep up good work :)
@@garrettsammons You are correct, it's from full frame.
Awesome video man I'm glad I stumbled across this. I'm a blackmagic pocket 4k user and I've been having some audio issues with it and this looks like something that could quench my hunger lol. Thanks again for the video.
Just found your channel! Great production value and awesome content. I have an ML EOS M and now I wanna start making shit as you’ve explained the 2.5k raw modules which no other channel has done as of yet. Subbed 👌🏻
Much love 🙏
I already own this camera. I'm going to grab Magic Lantern and see what happens. Wish me luck!
i love magic lantern. totally different camera after that
Did it work?
Yes, we want to know if this worked for you
Still no response?
Poor guy, it must have blew up on him while he was trying to work on it. No man could defeat him, only a camera upgrade could...
R.I.P Marshall arts guy
Great pair of videos for the EOS M. Just bought one a month ago and loving it. Still have to mod my 10-18mm which I accidentally screw loose so I could use it with my viltrox speedbooster. Thanks for the great insight.
Very cool man! Would love to see a third in the series! Maybe a bit more shooting with the camera with bts shots
I might have to do that! I picked up an old cctv “16mm film” lens and it shoots quite differently from the EOS lens. Could be a fun “final chapter” video.
Making Movies awesome can’t wait to see it. It’ll be awesome
I got a feeling this channel is going to be big 👌🏾
Appreciate that Colin! Stick around. We’re not stopping any time soon 😉
Wow amazing video, thanks a lot! I have a question, is the 2.5k the only mode that crops, for example I see two other modes on the scripts menu called “mv1080p_12bit...”, do they use the full sensor or do they crop as well? Edit: Basically, can you shoot uncropped with this camera and still get some decent codecs? :)
I believe so! I haven’t played with the other raw settings but that is my understanding. Thanks for the love!
Fantastic work, Garrett! Much appreciated; I own one and love this little beast. Excellent footage and editing, bro! ☮️
Were you able to download a build that is stable like his one?
Finally someone who takes his time and gives great tutorial about magic lantern.
Thanks man!
Bro, you have one of the crispiest video lighting setup of all time! That colour contrast
Appreciate the love man! I am obsessed with mixed lighting (daylight and tungsten together). It just gives such cool looking looks 🤙
Great video!!! Will this work on the M50 as well, or is this specific to the one you have?
Unfortunately this is the only model this works on. They changed chips after this and ML hasn’t cracked the newer ones yet.
Ok. Guess we should have seen that coming. 😛
@@garrettsammons Actually, they changed the firmware base. The M's after the original are based on Powershot firmware rather than EOS. CHDK which modifies Powershot firmware similar to Magic Lantern(they are actually the original hackers) has firmware for the M3 that does a lot of the same stuff as Magic Lantern. chdk.setepontos.com/index.php?topic=12542.490
Thanks Cinto! I knew there was a reason. I thought it was a digic 5 vs 6 issue but I’m glad you cleared it up 🙏
Not yet. It's in the works.
Hey Garret, I've really been enjoying your recent vids. I have a question. Do you own the blackmagic design video assist? or a ninja or shogun? I wonder what would happen if we hook up the eos m to these recorders...
I do have external video recorders. Unfortunately, the HDMI out on the EOS-M is atrocious and wouldn't make for a clean HD signal.
@@garrettsammons Damn that's a bummer. well nvm thx for letting me know
Fire intro for the EOS M , Canon might as well sponsor a makingmovies video lol First 5 seconds GOLD , Nice shots with the camera , When that lens comes in that you ordered will we see more footage?
I don’t think Canon would like me promoting Magic Lantern 😂 And yah, the vintage lens is in and I’ll post more of what I shoot with that shortly.
Making Movies lmao no no not that part 😂😂😂 they just gone have you talk about a camera & make another sick intro & yeah we need that footage
@@garrettsammons Nice. Been looking forward to a followup with the lens and some more clips and pics.
Great video!!! Now that I know firmware hacks exist there is some real fun to be had with older cameras.
I can only imagine the experimenting you had to go through to get this working.
Would love to more videos of taking older cameras and tweaking with firmware hacks.
I may just have to do a series on it!
@@garrettsammons would be amazing you've inspired me to head down a rabbit hole on old cameras.
I think for "artsy" and budget productions it could be amazing.
Nice color grade. Keep up the videos!
How sharp is the footage compare to some of the newer canon aspc camera (70d, 80d, m5-6, m50). I looked at Vimeo footage you posted and it looked pretty sharp. I have always found the default eos-m footage super mushy.
It’s honestly surprisingly good. I think cropping in on the sensor is the key. Fewer pixels at a truer resolution. That said, I think if you used better glass (L-series with a speed booster) you’d get even better images. This little kit lens is good, but not incredible.
Making Movies, The “movie crop” mode in ML gives better results than standard video too. I have used a few lenses on the eos-m, and good glass does make a big difference. The nifty fifty on the m is pretty nice too, as a cheap lens that gives good results. New sub, looking forward to your future videos.
Awesome video! Is it possible to increase the fps with the Magic Lantern applied? Or can you only increase the resolution?
I wish! To my knowledge, they only played with resolution and your frame rates are limited up to 30p
very impressive! Need more subs! Question. how does the camera handle with over heating. I'm looking at this just for a bit of fun. maybe give myself a challenge and see if I can record a short film on a proper budget. I know other mirrorless cameras over heat and was wondering how it did with prolonged shooting.
you are really an incredible editor and your channel it's on par with million subs channeles quility wise, i mean it
Appreciate that Frank! Much love 🙏
i bought one but the latest version of ml of july dosen't appear to have all the features. what setting do you use for 2.5k 14bit?
There's a download link in the description that has the version you need. They pulled the 2.5k RAW hack from the more recent updates.
I really like this channel and your story. Its pretty crazy where life takes you. I watched the full res clip. I was wondering what shots you took with the vintage vivitar lens? Any photos I can check out ? I really want to get into vintage lenses. I think this will be my first mirrorless I play with.
None of the clips in that sequences were shot with the vintage lens. I've been playing with it more though and am really liking the look. I may do a follow-up with that lens to show what a vintage vibe looks like.
So how do you frame your shot without an external monitor? If that crop zooms in. And Why Crop? Why not use the whole sensor?
Hey! Thanks for such an informative video. Question: how long is the recording time when you use 2.5k RAW?
I haven’t pushed the limit. I think the longest I ever recorded was 2 minutes, but that’s just because of how long I wanted the shot to be, not any limitation.
@@garrettsammons Hi, thank you for the info! TH-cam never sent me the notification that you had, but I appreciate you getting back to me so fast.
Magic Lantern is such a huge advantage Canon has over all the other companies.. All of them should actually open up their firmware to at least some kind of scripting. No reason not to, just put a disclaimer in that it will void your warranty.
Hey Garett, I was curious actually about the camera and lens you used to make this video ? Amazing grade and image quality so nice.
Nice video !
I ordered one with Meike adapter for 90 euros cost included.
How long can you film with your current magic lantern settings on 64 gb?
I haven’t pushed the record limit in any tests yet. I think the longest record time I ran was two minutesish.
@@garrettsammons I am thinking to get 128 gb card for it.
Thnx
I have this camera and shoot RAW 1080 using magic lantern. I've got Pentax auto 110 manual lenses for it. I love it as a little portable shooter.
Amazing shots! Thank you for such a clear tutorial and sharing the actual ML build! I do have one question. I am using the same SD card and followed it to the letter. Everything matches your tutorial until I get to 7:44. Under "RAW video" mine remains at "ON, 0x0" just like yours shows at 7:38. How does this setting change?
When that happens to me (which is occasionally does) I simply restart the camera. Most of the time that does it for me.
@@garrettsammons Thank you for the reply. I have tried several times and at some point it almost looked like there was some progress since the "RAW video" setting changed although not with the same values as yours but to "ON, 1736x976 4.83x. The script stops and a message about "Black 1/5: mean too different" is displayed.
The "mv1080p_12bit_iso100_24fps" script does work (with this script the setting "RAW video" is "ON, 1736x584 1.61x"), but with both "5x_2.5k_10bit..." I get an error when running them. Anyway, I will keep on trying. Thanks again for your help :-)
Great video. My M has firmware 2.0.3. Should I downgrade? Because I didn't see a version for that update on the ML site
Yah, unfortunately I don’t think they’ve hacked that firmware version so you’ll need to downgrade first.
Wow great video
I don't have the camera, but now I understand how the camera with ml work
What camera you use for shot yourself and this video? looks great
I use the GH5s as my main TH-cam camera. Thanks!
I don’t know if you’ll see this but you REAAAAAAALLLY should try this with the original 6D. Full frame removes the crop and you can make a proper rig with that camera 👀
Magic lantern is amazing on all these canon cameras! What’s the 6D go for these days?
Making Movies I just picked one up for 600USD a few days ago
40 sec into the video. you can already notice how much experience this guy has with videomaking. wow.
Very interesting review, I'm thinking about getting this lil fella myself soon and your review makes me wonder how much can a speed booster improove the crop factor
thought you might be in detroit based on a few shots (without any tell tell signs), then i noticed some signs. great job on the video.
Detroit here, bro. ☮️ Peace
Very informative video! Thinking about picking one of these up as a B cam.
Do you know if the HDMI-out puts out a 1080p image?
It definitely doesn’t. It’s a pretty terrible signal out from HDMI and it isn’t a clean signal either.
@@garrettsammons Gotcha. Thanks for the reply!
Good video what format is raw video when you edit it and can any video editing software read that format?
Hi! The format directly out of this camera is magic lantern raw, which no NLE can read. I put up a video on how to transcode the footage to make it into a readable format here: th-cam.com/video/UYboGulOi0g/w-d-xo.html
Hello, I was wondering if the EOS M could shoot continuous at 1080p at a 4x3(1436 x 1080) aspect ratio? I am planning on shooting a short film this summer and want to get better quality video than what my Fuji xt1 can get. I have a Kowa 2x anamorphic that I plan on using so I'd like to shoot at 4x3 so that I get a 2.4 aspect ratio after the stretch. My main concern is that the EOS M has a limited record time at anything deeper than 10 bit at that ratio but I can not find specific information about it and I would like to know for curtain before pulling the trigger on buying one. Thank you.
Hi William, I’m unsure about 4:3. It’s been awhile since I’ve looked at this little camera. There may be someone lurking in the comments with the answer you’re looking for.
This quality for that price? I will get it as a b-cam or for situations where I could lose my main camera.
Amazing Video!!! Will this work on the Canon M100??
No, only orginal M is full supported now
I have the Canon 250D, and I'm wondering if I can use it?
Hi! Thanks for the video!
Could you be more specific about the color correction/grading for the test shots?
And could you provide a link to some of your original footage to fiddle with? :D
Oh that’s a great idea! I’ll have to upload some tomorrow. Thanks 🙏
Making Movies Thanks for a fast answer! :) I am starving to see if the colors were that good right from the camera or you dialed in the look yourself in post!
Honestly, I didn’t do much in terms color on this. It’s pretty solid color rendering straight out of the camera.
@@garrettsammons so then I am waiting desperately for your footage to play with myself then ^.^
@@garrettsammons hey man! Just wanted to remind you about the source footage :)
Really well explained! Thanks
thanks for the effort and the sharing. i look forward to your future vids. thumbs up.
Much love! 🙏
Hi, just found your 2 videos regarding the EOS M, I’m going through the same process as you, bought the camera and lens cheap £125 here in the UK, and loaded Magic Lantern, having a few issues but seem to be going in the right direction. Question, are you bothered about recording sound? As soon as you change the FPS it disables the sound recording, or have you found a work around. Also having exposure issues when the FPS is changed, purple zebra zones appear on any white surface and are recorded on the video.
I usually use LUMIX G80 for video, which as you know does everything well, so why are we messing around with this old redundant camera which is difficult to set up? Seems to be a bit of a cult following and set up at the moment and I have to say that the video I have shot so far has a certain something, just not sure what it is yet.
I think the only thing that makes the EOS M interesting is shooting 2.5k RAW. The script makes it easy to consistently load the proper settings. That said, I’ve never played with Fran rates outside of 23.976. I don’t think it’ll handle well dealing with higher frame rates in RAW. As far as the dynamic range goes, I just trust the waveforms. I wouldn’t think it could be trustworthy by eye.
I haven’t played with the G80 but I wouldn’t use the EOS M as a primary shooter. It’s too funky of a workflow to make sense.
Hmm. The first setting to the left is MLV Sound.
I am actually planning to order a couple of these for a movie I am making this coming summer. We figured for the price with the hack, it's a great deal for a nice look as well! Thank you for the video, it helped us decide!
Glad to help man!
@@garrettsammons ive come across a few problems. it wont let me record being one :/
Is the camera on the right firmware?
@@garrettsammons Yeah, it was literally an exact replica pretty much of yours. I may try to reinstall the factory firmware and retry
Let me knows how it goes!
you can get a .71x speedbooster from viltrox which will definitely help with the crop
Great video. I found other people that spent more time with great lenses for this camera and results are beyond stunning
Thanks a lot, I've been trying to find how to use that hack, but seems it was just missing from the ML version I've found. Worked perfect with yours and image looks amazing!
Appreciate it man! Thanks 🙏
Great video, I'm getting one soon and was wondering how cropped it would be if I used a small 25mm lens on it, would it be too cropped or would it be useable do u recon,
Thanks, :-D
With the 3.33x crop, you’re 25mm would behave somewhere around an 83mm lens. Something that is still completely useable, but by no means a wide/angle lens.
Great video! Can it record 1080p 60 fps? Thanks!
I haven’t played with the new iterations of ML for this camera, but as far as this build goes it cannot shoot in 60fps. They went for resolution of frame rates for some reason.
that was a great tutorial, just brought this camera ( unrelated to the video ) and i was wondering about magic lantern.
it's good to know that if/when i out grow the camera i can potentially mod it and get a whole new lease of life from it. :)
I picked up an original EOS-M about a year ago and have been rocking it with Magic Lantern ever since. It's pretty solid, But I also have been using a 70D and wow. That's so much faster. Not saying the EOS-M isn't one of the perfect learning cameras but it is slow to do just about everything.
You’re 100% right
I've been CANON from before the xl1 and xl2 cams ----- but for once I am thinking of buying something else, what do you think of the new black magic pocket cinema 4k? yes, i know, each camera is meant for depending the kind of project one is filming, but the footage that I've been seeing from the pocket cinema 4k for the price range is CRAZY!!!
It looks super promising! Same sensor as the GH5s and I’m loving what that little camera does. I need to get my hands on it before I can give it a proper thumbs up though. Black Magic cameras haven’t impressed me in the past with the exception of the Ursa Mini Pro 4.6k. For studio work, that camera is awesome.
Really interested in getting one (to go along with my A7 III for a different look/feel)
Do you have any more test footage or feedback? It’s been 2 months now, would love to get some feedback / new tests.
I haven’t shot anything else with it yet. I’ve mainly been using it as an overhead camera (which is why I bought it). I think I’m going to play with the raw more over the holiday though.
Thank you for an amazing guide and stunning footage that made me touch this camera again! I was able to shoot 2.5k as you described but once I run 1080 script (both ISO 100 and 800) the footage seems to be broken - only a half of frame is displayed and nothing below horizontal line. Have you tried these mods and maybe be there were additional tweaks? Thanks in advance!
I haven’t played with the 1080 mod at all but if it were me, I’d try uninstalling and reinstalling ML to see if that fixes it.
@@garrettsammons Thanks for the answer!
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Would u say the bmpcc is better than this setup?
Definitely! They aren’t even close. The only thing that makes this camera interesting is the price point.
I wonder if this would work for the 650d also. They are essentially the same thing under the hood.
Checked out the full resolution. Colors look great, but nothing looks sharp. Are you using vintage lenses? Looked like one or 2 of the clips were shot through a window, so I'll excuse those. Anyway, great edits.
You’re absolutely right! One of the complaints about this camera when it came out (as a photo camera) was it wasn’t very sharp. All the footage I shot was with that kit lens. Again, if you had better glass it would help. I just don’t think it would compare to a native high resolution RAW camera in any way.
@@garrettsammons Good info. Thanks!
Love magic lantern and how it doesn't look like what I have installed on my eos M.
I'm really considering getting one of these based on your video here. One piece of information I can't seem to find anywhere though is how well do those CCTV lenses work in the x3.33 crop mode? Do you have any insight on this?
Nice. The link to your specific build is down. I tried another build of 2.0.2 and the menus are different.
Did you ever get a reply with an actual link?
can this be used for livestreaming without a shutoff or overlays?
No, the hdmi output is really low-res.
Just bought one for £70, can't wait to play around with it!
Awesome!!! Send me a link to what you shoot. I’m so excited to see what people do with this little thing.
Thats real cheap. Did you get a lens with that?
@@Altcine Sadly not, I got a couple of batteries and 16+32GB SD cards though (not the type for video, but a nice touch). Most 1st gen Ms seem to go for that kind of price on eBay UK.
I'm thinking of getting the Viltrox AF speedbooster when it comes out, as I have a few EF lenses.
Scipt name was ISO100. Is there any ISO limit for this function? And also, very important, what is your workflow for this RAW files. How to handle it, and isn't it horrible experience. Also what is the widest lens for this EOS-M system?
Great questions! The script auto sets your ISO to 100 but you can use whatever ISO level you’d like. I have found that 800 is the absolute highest I’d take it, as you start to get that digital noise that makes the footage less usable.
My post workflow for the RAW files is an app for Mac called MLV App. I’m not sure if it’s also supported on PC or not but it’s a super light-weight, transcoding software that allows you to export MLV files into any format/codec you’d like.
The EOS M has an APS-C sensor, so with the right adapter, you can put as wide a lens as you’d want to on it. I’m going to explore this a little more because the 3.33x crop is so serious!
Native lenses has the 22mm which is the equivalent of 35mm on a full frame. When the EOS-M went out of production, before the new ones came in, dealers panicked and I got two 22mm lenses from China for £50 each, new.
Hello! Is any differences between eos m and m2? Thanks!
The M2 is not compatible with this hack due to the chip inside the camera being different.
Hi! is it possible to answer on that you shoot this video? setup.
I mean body\lens\light.
Amazon links
Yah! I think I’ll do a whole video on it. For now, check out the link to my Kit in the description. It has links to everything I use to shoot.
Hey do you get autofocus on your GH5??? I'm using literally an identical lens setup to you, save for a blackmagic pocket 4K body and cant figure it out
I’m not sure about the autofocus function on the BMPCC4K. The menu structure is entirely different from Panasonic, even though they share the same sensor. Sorry 😐
So you record at 2.5k then upscale or not? or maby downscale to 1080? if i will upload it to youtube for example?
I’d downscale to get killer 1080p. I don’t think it’s strong enough to upscale and hold its image well.
Hi. New to your channel, as a EOS M owner I an intrigued by this hack. Have you tried putting any other lenses on it? My biggest issue with the EOS M is battery life but other than that its pretty nifty. I'm definitely going to give it a go, thanks for providing files.
Welcome to the channel! Yah I picked up an old CCTV lens that I’ve been playing with. It give it a really interesting vintage vibe.
@@garrettsammons What one did you end up getting?
I went with a C-Mount Navitar Macro 1.8 Zoom (12.5-75mm). It’s a fun lens!
Hi mate, thanks for the great video. What clog picture profile do you have there?
James Miller makes a Canon C-Log 3 profile he sells through Deluts. It’s amazing!
Thank you very much for such a helpful video! I really like the way you talk, I’m from Russia but I understand every single word that you say.
Thanks Leo! Glad to help 🙏
Thanks for this video.
Great video! I've been shooting some 2.5k raw video with this camera, but the image shaking was severe, I tried to stabilize it in Premiere but not very satisfied... Got any advice?
Yah this little dude is super lightweight and has no IBIS. I’d always recommend locking it down or putting it on some sort of stabilization rig: gimbal, flycam, slider, etc. if you want to move it around.
@@garrettsammons OK. Thanks for your tips.
Great video! Does ML allow more than 29min video files to be recorded?
I’m not sure off the top of my head... I do know each camera is a little different with the ML hacks. So you may need to check out their website to see the specs for each camera.
@@garrettsammons Did it work with Canon M? Can you record continiously?
In RAW I didn’t try to record over 30 minutes, but if you’re recording in MP4 I know it does.
@@garrettsammons Thank you!! 😀
Mate this is crazy! If I knew this was possible ealier, I should have bought this camera rather than buying a Canon Eos M50. I wanted to know if you think it's possible to shoot RAW on a Canon m50 or any other canon camera?
Thank you.
The M50 won’t work because it has a new chip. There are a ton of canon cameras it supports, just check the magic lantern website.
Making Movies Great to hear man! This means you’re seriously doing a great job. I subscribed instantly
Thank you
Would love to see an update video
Thank you Garret for this Video ... very usefull. But sorry, the Link to the EOS M Magic Lantern download doesn't work anymore. Du you have another Link?? bruno
Did you ever get an answer?
my ML copy for the 100d doesn't have the sd_uhs module, how to get it?
It was a great tutorial, how I can get C-LOG picture profile ? I see on your camera was CLOG
Thanks! 🙏 I use James Miller’s C-Log 3. He has a C-Log picture profile bundle I love. sellfy.com/p/ul1t/
use cinestyle picture profile
SD-UHS.MO is not in my magic lantern menu... I can set everything else but not that and I cannot figure out how to get 2.5 k RAW on my EOS M by following your instructions because of the lack of this... I noticed you were opening up the 2018 July 3rd magic lantern but yours was different then mine at the end of the file name it said 1080p... are you using a special version I can’t seem to find? I would appreciate any help you could throw my way... thanks
Hi Tyler! Use the download link in the video description. It’ll give you everything you’re looking for!
dang, such great video and so few views!
I wonder if this camera would be handy for shooting reviews... A bit doubtful due to this crop ratio...
Thanks for the love! Yah, I think this would be limited to shooting cinematic pieces.
@@garrettsammons thank you! Looking forward to seeing your new videos :)
very informative video!!
can you do this to any camera from M series?
My understanding is, no. It has something to do with the chip they used in the original M vs the subsequent models.