Check my channel for some EOS M 2.5K RAW videos. They are just tests, made in a hurry and shot hand held, but you get the idea, what this lovely little camera is capable to achieve. BTW, thanks for giving good instructions, how to set the camera for 2.5K recording. It's been asked from me countless times, but I never got time to make a video of it.
By default if you hold the shutter button halfway while in 2.5k recording mode, you'll get a low framerate full preview of what you're actually recording. No need for guesswork when framing your shots.
After the video ended I checked your subs and expected like 200000+ subs. But 10000. This channel deserves so much more, the lighting, production design, editing is top notch mate. While these things don't always seem important, because after all it's just an informatic video, it's just so much nicer to look at.
Geezus man....why do you not have more subscribers, you're easily on par with several of the million+ subs. keep up the great...amazing work. This is awesome.
Still no response? Poor guy, it must have blew up on him while he was trying to work on it. No man could defeat him, only a camera upgrade could... R.I.P Marshall arts guy
Thank You! I haven't tried 2.5k or RAW on mine yet (ordered a new SD Card after watching this video.) but have had decent results using the 3X Movie Crop mode with both the Canon EF-M 22 f/2 stm and a 35mm F1.6 C-Mount lens, Cinestyle color profile, and shooting handheld with a powered gimbal. The C-Mount lens is a soft manual focus prime that has some pretty strong distortions at the edge of the frames but with the 3X crop you end up not capturing the most distorted parts anyway.
Thanks for the video. You got me very curious and I took the plunge. I got an EOS M to see what that camera can do with Magic Lantern and learn more about video at the same time. Your channel is a great place to start.
Great production quality, very personable and easy to listen to, and interesting subject matter! Subscribed! Can't wait for more, I'm interested in trying this out myself!
I think that you are right about the crop. I own two EOS-Ms, have Magic Lantern but never tried RAW. It does produce very good video without the need for RAW. I know that some people would think that quite heretical but I'm not sure that RAW is worth that much hassle. I own several adapters for vintage lenses for the EOS-M. I also have a focal reducer for M42 so I can use old Soviet glass like the Mir 1B and Helios 44 as if I were shooting full frame. That all said, the video is the best I've seen showing how to actually try RAW on the EOS-M.
Great video, thanks! Had been able to put my hands on this camera but haven't tried the RAW function yet. Just a quick question - does 3,33x crop adds up to 1,6 crop of camera itself or it is 3,33x crop in full frame equivalent?
That’s a great question! I haven’t done any scientific tests on it. I can’t say for sure but I believe it’s 3.33x from full frame. Don’t quote me on that but that’s what I think.
Great video!!! Now that I know firmware hacks exist there is some real fun to be had with older cameras. I can only imagine the experimenting you had to go through to get this working. Would love to more videos of taking older cameras and tweaking with firmware hacks.
@@garrettsammons would be amazing you've inspired me to head down a rabbit hole on old cameras. I think for "artsy" and budget productions it could be amazing.
I might have to do that! I picked up an old cctv “16mm film” lens and it shoots quite differently from the EOS lens. Could be a fun “final chapter” video.
Awesome video man I'm glad I stumbled across this. I'm a blackmagic pocket 4k user and I've been having some audio issues with it and this looks like something that could quench my hunger lol. Thanks again for the video.
@@garrettsammons Actually, they changed the firmware base. The M's after the original are based on Powershot firmware rather than EOS. CHDK which modifies Powershot firmware similar to Magic Lantern(they are actually the original hackers) has firmware for the M3 that does a lot of the same stuff as Magic Lantern. chdk.setepontos.com/index.php?topic=12542.490
My ML menu's are different to yours. When I go to turn on the stuff you show at 4:35 I have a lot more options there and I do NOT have the last one you turned on: sd_uhs I do have an option you don't seem to have which is mlv_rec (described as "Records 14-bit RAW video). I am using Nightly build 2018 July 03 EOSM202
Great pair of videos for the EOS M. Just bought one a month ago and loving it. Still have to mod my 10-18mm which I accidentally screw loose so I could use it with my viltrox speedbooster. Thanks for the great insight.
Just found your channel! Great production value and awesome content. I have an ML EOS M and now I wanna start making shit as you’ve explained the 2.5k raw modules which no other channel has done as of yet. Subbed 👌🏻
Fire intro for the EOS M , Canon might as well sponsor a makingmovies video lol First 5 seconds GOLD , Nice shots with the camera , When that lens comes in that you ordered will we see more footage?
Hey Garret, I've really been enjoying your recent vids. I have a question. Do you own the blackmagic design video assist? or a ninja or shogun? I wonder what would happen if we hook up the eos m to these recorders...
Agreed... Just- one thing... To mistake megabyte for megabit and vice versa, is a huge mistake, to such an extent that it doesn't feel like it's a mistake... My honest opinion. No judging.
@zizzy I'd like to see your reaction when you get paid 1/8th of what you are supposed to. "Everyone makes mistakes... I have a sandwich instead of a days pay, no biggie!" :D I'd even pay for seeing your reaction if accountant retorts your claim to get paid in full by that "cannot believe you are nitpicking on this!!!"
Hi! Thanks for the video! Could you be more specific about the color correction/grading for the test shots? And could you provide a link to some of your original footage to fiddle with? :D
Making Movies Thanks for a fast answer! :) I am starving to see if the colors were that good right from the camera or you dialed in the look yourself in post!
Amazing shots! Thank you for such a clear tutorial and sharing the actual ML build! I do have one question. I am using the same SD card and followed it to the letter. Everything matches your tutorial until I get to 7:44. Under "RAW video" mine remains at "ON, 0x0" just like yours shows at 7:38. How does this setting change?
@@garrettsammons Thank you for the reply. I have tried several times and at some point it almost looked like there was some progress since the "RAW video" setting changed although not with the same values as yours but to "ON, 1736x976 4.83x. The script stops and a message about "Black 1/5: mean too different" is displayed. The "mv1080p_12bit_iso100_24fps" script does work (with this script the setting "RAW video" is "ON, 1736x584 1.61x"), but with both "5x_2.5k_10bit..." I get an error when running them. Anyway, I will keep on trying. Thanks again for your help :-)
Magic Lantern is such a huge advantage Canon has over all the other companies.. All of them should actually open up their firmware to at least some kind of scripting. No reason not to, just put a disclaimer in that it will void your warranty.
I really like this channel and your story. Its pretty crazy where life takes you. I watched the full res clip. I was wondering what shots you took with the vintage vivitar lens? Any photos I can check out ? I really want to get into vintage lenses. I think this will be my first mirrorless I play with.
None of the clips in that sequences were shot with the vintage lens. I've been playing with it more though and am really liking the look. I may do a follow-up with that lens to show what a vintage vibe looks like.
How sharp is the footage compare to some of the newer canon aspc camera (70d, 80d, m5-6, m50). I looked at Vimeo footage you posted and it looked pretty sharp. I have always found the default eos-m footage super mushy.
It’s honestly surprisingly good. I think cropping in on the sensor is the key. Fewer pixels at a truer resolution. That said, I think if you used better glass (L-series with a speed booster) you’d get even better images. This little kit lens is good, but not incredible.
Making Movies, The “movie crop” mode in ML gives better results than standard video too. I have used a few lenses on the eos-m, and good glass does make a big difference. The nifty fifty on the m is pretty nice too, as a cheap lens that gives good results. New sub, looking forward to your future videos.
SD-UHS.MO is not in my magic lantern menu... I can set everything else but not that and I cannot figure out how to get 2.5 k RAW on my EOS M by following your instructions because of the lack of this... I noticed you were opening up the 2018 July 3rd magic lantern but yours was different then mine at the end of the file name it said 1080p... are you using a special version I can’t seem to find? I would appreciate any help you could throw my way... thanks
I am actually planning to order a couple of these for a movie I am making this coming summer. We figured for the price with the hack, it's a great deal for a nice look as well! Thank you for the video, it helped us decide!
Not all RAW records in 12bit. And this sensor only is capable of handling just over 8bit. So the 10bit just gives you everything this sensor has to offer. RAW native cameras will give you more options for sure.
I don't know if magic lantern has updated its download but I cant find any crop in my modules and my scrips look nothing like in the video. Instead of saying things for 2.5k it has a calculater. I can get 14bit raw but have yet to find any thing that helps with the resolution it's self. Any help would be appreciated
Hi Sam. Yah, the current version of ML won’t have any of these settings. I put a download link in the description for the version you’ll need to make it work. Glad you like the video!
This is the critical question! The link to his particular download seems never have been actually published. He has indicated the link is IN the video's "description" -- it is not. The link in the video description is NOT the valid one. You are correct, it has a bunch of games.
Hello, I was wondering if the EOS M could shoot continuous at 1080p at a 4x3(1436 x 1080) aspect ratio? I am planning on shooting a short film this summer and want to get better quality video than what my Fuji xt1 can get. I have a Kowa 2x anamorphic that I plan on using so I'd like to shoot at 4x3 so that I get a 2.4 aspect ratio after the stretch. My main concern is that the EOS M has a limited record time at anything deeper than 10 bit at that ratio but I can not find specific information about it and I would like to know for curtain before pulling the trigger on buying one. Thank you.
Hi William, I’m unsure about 4:3. It’s been awhile since I’ve looked at this little camera. There may be someone lurking in the comments with the answer you’re looking for.
Hi! The format directly out of this camera is magic lantern raw, which no NLE can read. I put up a video on how to transcode the footage to make it into a readable format here: th-cam.com/video/UYboGulOi0g/w-d-xo.html
Wow amazing video, thanks a lot! I have a question, is the 2.5k the only mode that crops, for example I see two other modes on the scripts menu called “mv1080p_12bit...”, do they use the full sensor or do they crop as well? Edit: Basically, can you shoot uncropped with this camera and still get some decent codecs? :)
I haven’t played with the new iterations of ML for this camera, but as far as this build goes it cannot shoot in 60fps. They went for resolution of frame rates for some reason.
Really interested in getting one (to go along with my A7 III for a different look/feel) Do you have any more test footage or feedback? It’s been 2 months now, would love to get some feedback / new tests.
I haven’t shot anything else with it yet. I’ve mainly been using it as an overhead camera (which is why I bought it). I think I’m going to play with the raw more over the holiday though.
@@garrettsammons I think some of them just don't accept ML. I have tried this build, I download builds from Zeek, who is amazing with this camera, but mine has never worked correctly
I have the t2i with magic lantern, but got it just for a built in intervalometer. After this video I looked through the menus and saw that it does enable 14-bit raw video up to 3.5k, but I don't think my card is fast enough. I got a 90 MB/s extreme plus sandisk and it only allows 640. I mainly want unlimited recording with it if I can.
Yah I don’t think those cards are fast enough. The 95MB/s Pros work nicely for this little guy. No idea how they’d perform on the t2i, but I’d guess that it would get you closer to what you’re looking for.
Got the faster card and tried it out. Did not work. Tested the speeds in the camera and it was only 20 MB/s read and write for both different cards, but the newer one preformed faster when I ran tests on the computer. So what I'm thinking is since the t2i came out in 2010 it's only able to do the read and write of 20 MB/s while the Canon M came out in 2015 allowing it to be faster. I just thought I could achieve the better settings since it's in the menu, but the menu might just carry across all of the ML cameras to make it easier on them. Failed experiment. Might try the Canon M some time in the future.
Having a few problems with this so far. Under RAW video in the movie section, it reads 1736x584 and won't let me go any higher, saying that anything higher is not possible in current movie mode. Also, when trying to playback footage, it seems to go through each frame and stopping before the end, then freezing so I can't watch back my footage. Sorry I'm quite a novice so could be something quite simple but I can't seem to find a resolution. Also what MLV converting software is best to use for windows 10?
Yah, I’ve noticed playback doesn’t work well. This is most likely due to the processor not being able to keep up with transcoding and playing back high resolution clips simultaneously. I usually eject my card and playback on my laptop anyways so I can see exactly what I captured. In regards to your resolution issue, several folks in the comments said that doing multiple restarts of the camera resolved their issue. Maybe give that a try. Because this is an unsupported hack, it can get pretty screwy. Here’s a link to what app I use to transcode and how I export the footage: th-cam.com/video/UYboGulOi0g/w-d-xo.html
Nope! The reason it works, is the sensor is a much higher resolution than video needs. So, it’s 2.5k native, meaning it’s only using the center part of the frame it needs. It helps with processing power, but it creates a terrible crop in the process.
Thank you for this awesome tutorial! I have been following along but some of the options you had turned on dont seem to be included in my version of magic lantern. as of today I installed the latest build but some of the modules you had seem to be missing on my camera
Did you download the version in the video description? It isn’t the latest version of the nightly build because they have since removed some of the features 😬
Making Movies Oh!!! that explains so much now , I totally downloaded the lastest build but now I get it! let me try that out and ill get back. Thank you for the reply mate
Making Movies: yeah, funny that... I had a version from February, which didn't include those options. So I went and downloaded one of the older nightlies (the last few had a failing test in the CI, so I picked the latest one before that), and lo and behold, still the same options. ;) What I'm missing: * The option to overclock the SD * The ability to go any higher than 1728*692 (probably related) * Every single script you turned on I do have an option mlv_rec though, which you seem to lack. Also, under Raw Video, I have a second entry: Raw Video (MLV)
And for those wondering: yes, after loading the ML version linked in the description, those entries appear. Guess they must've taken these options out for a reason though.
Hey do you get autofocus on your GH5??? I'm using literally an identical lens setup to you, save for a blackmagic pocket 4K body and cant figure it out
I’m not sure about the autofocus function on the BMPCC4K. The menu structure is entirely different from Panasonic, even though they share the same sensor. Sorry 😐
Much appreciated on the video. However I can't seem to access the scripts on the ML menu(it just does not show up). In fact I only have about 10 tabs that show up on my ML menu where you seem to have 12 tabs; I have no Scripts, and the star and triangle tabs aren't there for me either. I also can't access sd_uhs on the modules. Is there something i'm missing? Your help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks😀
I did now. Thanks for the assist😀 Now if I can get my RAW to go from 0×0 to the 2520×1080 that you have. My FPS is at an even 24, and the Rolling Shutter is at 22.4. Do I need to change my aspect ratio? It's set at 16:9.
Ok; I got my exact fps to be 23.976; my rolling shutter however is 22.3; RAW video is at 1736×976 at a crop of 4.83x(aspect ratio 16:9); not sure how to set that crop at 3.33x.
I don’t know the exact steps off the top of my head but a quick google search should land you in the right direction. I believe you load the firmware via EOS Utility but I haven’t done it on this camera so I don’t actually know.
Yah, unfortunately you’ll need to downgrade the firmware before you can load ML in. I don’t know off the top of my head how it’s done but I do know there are tutorials online about how to do it.
@@garrettsammons Cheers mate, have worked it out (somehow lol), now a question to you: Have you started filming in raw only to have ML code running over your screen while trying to film?
Do you need high storage to install the ML update? I have an 8gb card as I only got it recently and the download doesn't work, my firmware is currently 2.0.3. - the latest.
@@AltCine Sadly not, I got a couple of batteries and 16+32GB SD cards though (not the type for video, but a nice touch). Most 1st gen Ms seem to go for that kind of price on eBay UK. I'm thinking of getting the Viltrox AF speedbooster when it comes out, as I have a few EF lenses.
Where did you get the "sd_uhs.mo" module? I have downloaded what seems to be the same file, but instead of the eight modules you have, Ii got 18 in total, but no "sd_uhs.mo". Any Idea what the difference is?
Great video, I'm getting one soon and was wondering how cropped it would be if I used a small 25mm lens on it, would it be too cropped or would it be useable do u recon, Thanks, :-D
With the 3.33x crop, you’re 25mm would behave somewhere around an 83mm lens. Something that is still completely useable, but by no means a wide/angle lens.
very impressive! Need more subs! Question. how does the camera handle with over heating. I'm looking at this just for a bit of fun. maybe give myself a challenge and see if I can record a short film on a proper budget. I know other mirrorless cameras over heat and was wondering how it did with prolonged shooting.
Thank you Garret for this Video ... very usefull. But sorry, the Link to the EOS M Magic Lantern download doesn't work anymore. Du you have another Link?? bruno
I picked up an original EOS-M about a year ago and have been rocking it with Magic Lantern ever since. It's pretty solid, But I also have been using a 70D and wow. That's so much faster. Not saying the EOS-M isn't one of the perfect learning cameras but it is slow to do just about everything.
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What would you shoot with this tiny camera?
I would shoot the hit movie "Steel," staring Shaquille o Neal. If you haven't seen it I would highly recommend it.
Check my channel for some EOS M 2.5K RAW videos. They are just tests, made in a hurry and shot hand held, but you get the idea, what this lovely little camera is capable to achieve. BTW, thanks for giving good instructions, how to set the camera for 2.5K recording. It's been asked from me countless times, but I never got time to make a video of it.
Forgot to mention, that you get to see the correct framing by pressing shutter release half way.
Really?! That’s super helpful! Thanks. I’ll definitely check out your test footage 🙏
im gonna try shooting a cross country documentary !
By default if you hold the shutter button halfway while in 2.5k recording mode, you'll get a low framerate full preview of what you're actually recording. No need for guesswork when framing your shots.
This is great news! I didn’t know that was a feature but that helps a ton. Thanks! 🙏
If you do that the settings restore and you have to change them back?
@@garrettsammons what settings will you recommend for someone who would want to shot a feature film with this.
After the video ended I checked your subs and expected like 200000+ subs. But 10000. This channel deserves so much more, the lighting, production design, editing is top notch mate. While these things don't always seem important, because after all it's just an informatic video, it's just so much nicer to look at.
Thanks so much!!!
Beautiful intro for that EOS M!!
Geezus man....why do you not have more subscribers, you're easily on par with several of the million+ subs. keep up the great...amazing work. This is awesome.
I love your transitions and editing.
Appreciate the love man!
I already own this camera. I'm going to grab Magic Lantern and see what happens. Wish me luck!
i love magic lantern. totally different camera after that
Did it work?
Yes, we want to know if this worked for you
Still no response?
Poor guy, it must have blew up on him while he was trying to work on it. No man could defeat him, only a camera upgrade could...
R.I.P Marshall arts guy
I got a feeling this channel is going to be big 👌🏾
Appreciate that Colin! Stick around. We’re not stopping any time soon 😉
Always cool to see classic EOS M updates for ML and video settings! 👏👍
damn the quality! this channel is severely underrated
I still own that eos m camera for many years now. still works fine with me.
Thank You!
I haven't tried 2.5k or RAW on mine yet (ordered a new SD Card after watching this video.) but have had decent results using the 3X Movie Crop mode with both the Canon EF-M 22 f/2 stm and a 35mm F1.6 C-Mount lens, Cinestyle color profile, and shooting handheld with a powered gimbal. The C-Mount lens is a soft manual focus prime that has some pretty strong distortions at the edge of the frames but with the 3X crop you end up not capturing the most distorted parts anyway.
Thanks for the video. You got me very curious and I took the plunge. I got an EOS M to see what that camera can do with Magic Lantern and learn more about video at the same time. Your channel is a great place to start.
Great production quality, very personable and easy to listen to, and interesting subject matter! Subscribed!
Can't wait for more, I'm interested in trying this out myself!
Thanks for the love David!
Interesting. The crop makes it a dealbreaker for me, but very neat! I wish Magic Lantern was available for the 6D Mark II T_T
I love the 6D Mark II! Solid camera all around.
They're working on it. If you have a 6Dmk2 you should go volunteer for testing at least, if not for actually writing the code.
I think that you are right about the crop. I own two EOS-Ms, have Magic Lantern but never tried RAW. It does produce very good video without the need for RAW. I know that some people would think that quite heretical but I'm not sure that RAW is worth that much hassle. I own several adapters for vintage lenses for the EOS-M. I also have a focal reducer for M42 so I can use old Soviet glass like the Mir 1B and Helios 44 as if I were shooting full frame. That all said, the video is the best I've seen showing how to actually try RAW on the EOS-M.
just get a speedbooster ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
@@PassportToPimlico Have you tried this with the Viltrox EF-EOS M2? Hoping to get it working with the Sigma 18-35/1.8 with AF.
Nice color grade. Keep up the videos!
Finally someone who takes his time and gives great tutorial about magic lantern.
Thanks man!
Man, i love this. I love seeing and hearing about some epic hacks to bring the lower cost cameras into the mega stats range. Thank you for sharing!
Glad to help man! I try to keep an ear to the ground on gear. More cool stuff coming shortly!
well... i'm on board, dude. i'll be here ready for you to share!
Much love! 🙏
i bought one but the latest version of ml of july dosen't appear to have all the features. what setting do you use for 2.5k 14bit?
There's a download link in the description that has the version you need. They pulled the 2.5k RAW hack from the more recent updates.
Bro, you have one of the crispiest video lighting setup of all time! That colour contrast
Appreciate the love man! I am obsessed with mixed lighting (daylight and tungsten together). It just gives such cool looking looks 🤙
Great video, thanks! Had been able to put my hands on this camera but haven't tried the RAW function yet.
Just a quick question - does 3,33x crop adds up to 1,6 crop of camera itself or it is 3,33x crop in full frame equivalent?
That’s a great question! I haven’t done any scientific tests on it. I can’t say for sure but I believe it’s 3.33x from full frame. Don’t quote me on that but that’s what I think.
@@garrettsammons Thanks for reply! Keep up good work :)
@@garrettsammons You are correct, it's from full frame.
Great video!!! Now that I know firmware hacks exist there is some real fun to be had with older cameras.
I can only imagine the experimenting you had to go through to get this working.
Would love to more videos of taking older cameras and tweaking with firmware hacks.
I may just have to do a series on it!
@@garrettsammons would be amazing you've inspired me to head down a rabbit hole on old cameras.
I think for "artsy" and budget productions it could be amazing.
you are really an incredible editor and your channel it's on par with million subs channeles quility wise, i mean it
Appreciate that Frank! Much love 🙏
Very cool man! Would love to see a third in the series! Maybe a bit more shooting with the camera with bts shots
I might have to do that! I picked up an old cctv “16mm film” lens and it shoots quite differently from the EOS lens. Could be a fun “final chapter” video.
Making Movies awesome can’t wait to see it. It’ll be awesome
Awesome video man I'm glad I stumbled across this. I'm a blackmagic pocket 4k user and I've been having some audio issues with it and this looks like something that could quench my hunger lol. Thanks again for the video.
Great video!!! Will this work on the M50 as well, or is this specific to the one you have?
Unfortunately this is the only model this works on. They changed chips after this and ML hasn’t cracked the newer ones yet.
Ok. Guess we should have seen that coming. 😛
@@garrettsammons Actually, they changed the firmware base. The M's after the original are based on Powershot firmware rather than EOS. CHDK which modifies Powershot firmware similar to Magic Lantern(they are actually the original hackers) has firmware for the M3 that does a lot of the same stuff as Magic Lantern. chdk.setepontos.com/index.php?topic=12542.490
Thanks Cinto! I knew there was a reason. I thought it was a digic 5 vs 6 issue but I’m glad you cleared it up 🙏
Not yet. It's in the works.
song name in the video part when shooting in 4k
Fantastic work, Garrett! Much appreciated; I own one and love this little beast. Excellent footage and editing, bro! ☮️
Were you able to download a build that is stable like his one?
My ML menu's are different to yours. When I go to turn on the stuff you show at 4:35 I have a lot more options there and I do NOT have the last one you turned on: sd_uhs
I do have an option you don't seem to have which is mlv_rec (described as "Records 14-bit RAW video).
I am using Nightly build 2018 July 03 EOSM202
same
Make sure to download directly from the description link. Their site doesn’t currently host this build.
Garrett Sammons makes sense. Thanks a lot for the response!
I've been using that build for months and it does not have the necessary Scripts. Do you have them?
Great pair of videos for the EOS M. Just bought one a month ago and loving it. Still have to mod my 10-18mm which I accidentally screw loose so I could use it with my viltrox speedbooster. Thanks for the great insight.
Just found your channel! Great production value and awesome content. I have an ML EOS M and now I wanna start making shit as you’ve explained the 2.5k raw modules which no other channel has done as of yet. Subbed 👌🏻
Much love 🙏
Fire intro for the EOS M , Canon might as well sponsor a makingmovies video lol First 5 seconds GOLD , Nice shots with the camera , When that lens comes in that you ordered will we see more footage?
I don’t think Canon would like me promoting Magic Lantern 😂 And yah, the vintage lens is in and I’ll post more of what I shoot with that shortly.
Making Movies lmao no no not that part 😂😂😂 they just gone have you talk about a camera & make another sick intro & yeah we need that footage
@@garrettsammons Nice. Been looking forward to a followup with the lens and some more clips and pics.
Can you do tutorial on eos m 4.5k too?
in 3:45 your firmware lens is 2.0.0, how to update this version
thanks
Hey Garret, I've really been enjoying your recent vids. I have a question. Do you own the blackmagic design video assist? or a ninja or shogun? I wonder what would happen if we hook up the eos m to these recorders...
I do have external video recorders. Unfortunately, the HDMI out on the EOS-M is atrocious and wouldn't make for a clean HD signal.
@@garrettsammons Damn that's a bummer. well nvm thx for letting me know
my ML copy for the 100d doesn't have the sd_uhs module, how to get it?
thought you might be in detroit based on a few shots (without any tell tell signs), then i noticed some signs. great job on the video.
Detroit here, bro. ☮️ Peace
What camera you use for shot yourself and this video? looks great
I use the GH5s as my main TH-cam camera. Thanks!
Please do adhere to the distinction between megabits and megabytes. It's a factor of eight.
Thanks for pointing that out. Another viewer also mentioned it. Slip of tongue unfortunately. 😬
It happens. No biggie! I’ll do better next time.
Agreed... Just- one thing... To mistake megabyte for megabit and vice versa, is a huge mistake, to such an extent that it doesn't feel like it's a mistake... My honest opinion. No judging.
@zizzy I'd like to see your reaction when you get paid 1/8th of what you are supposed to. "Everyone makes mistakes... I have a sandwich instead of a days pay, no biggie!"
:D
I'd even pay for seeing your reaction if accountant retorts your claim to get paid in full by that "cannot believe you are nitpicking on this!!!"
Hi! Thanks for the video!
Could you be more specific about the color correction/grading for the test shots?
And could you provide a link to some of your original footage to fiddle with? :D
Oh that’s a great idea! I’ll have to upload some tomorrow. Thanks 🙏
Making Movies Thanks for a fast answer! :) I am starving to see if the colors were that good right from the camera or you dialed in the look yourself in post!
Honestly, I didn’t do much in terms color on this. It’s pretty solid color rendering straight out of the camera.
@@garrettsammons so then I am waiting desperately for your footage to play with myself then ^.^
@@garrettsammons hey man! Just wanted to remind you about the source footage :)
Amazing shots! Thank you for such a clear tutorial and sharing the actual ML build! I do have one question. I am using the same SD card and followed it to the letter. Everything matches your tutorial until I get to 7:44. Under "RAW video" mine remains at "ON, 0x0" just like yours shows at 7:38. How does this setting change?
When that happens to me (which is occasionally does) I simply restart the camera. Most of the time that does it for me.
@@garrettsammons Thank you for the reply. I have tried several times and at some point it almost looked like there was some progress since the "RAW video" setting changed although not with the same values as yours but to "ON, 1736x976 4.83x. The script stops and a message about "Black 1/5: mean too different" is displayed.
The "mv1080p_12bit_iso100_24fps" script does work (with this script the setting "RAW video" is "ON, 1736x584 1.61x"), but with both "5x_2.5k_10bit..." I get an error when running them. Anyway, I will keep on trying. Thanks again for your help :-)
Magic Lantern is such a huge advantage Canon has over all the other companies.. All of them should actually open up their firmware to at least some kind of scripting. No reason not to, just put a disclaimer in that it will void your warranty.
I really like this channel and your story. Its pretty crazy where life takes you. I watched the full res clip. I was wondering what shots you took with the vintage vivitar lens? Any photos I can check out ? I really want to get into vintage lenses. I think this will be my first mirrorless I play with.
None of the clips in that sequences were shot with the vintage lens. I've been playing with it more though and am really liking the look. I may do a follow-up with that lens to show what a vintage vibe looks like.
Wow great video
I don't have the camera, but now I understand how the camera with ml work
It was a great tutorial, how I can get C-LOG picture profile ? I see on your camera was CLOG
Thanks! 🙏 I use James Miller’s C-Log 3. He has a C-Log picture profile bundle I love. sellfy.com/p/ul1t/
use cinestyle picture profile
Would u say the bmpcc is better than this setup?
Definitely! They aren’t even close. The only thing that makes this camera interesting is the price point.
40 sec into the video. you can already notice how much experience this guy has with videomaking. wow.
I have the Canon 250D, and I'm wondering if I can use it?
This quality for that price? I will get it as a b-cam or for situations where I could lose my main camera.
I have all the same settings but as soon as i try to record it'll stop and say" movie recoring has stopped automagically"
That usually means the card you’re using isn’t fast enough to record that level of data.
How sharp is the footage compare to some of the newer canon aspc camera (70d, 80d, m5-6, m50). I looked at Vimeo footage you posted and it looked pretty sharp. I have always found the default eos-m footage super mushy.
It’s honestly surprisingly good. I think cropping in on the sensor is the key. Fewer pixels at a truer resolution. That said, I think if you used better glass (L-series with a speed booster) you’d get even better images. This little kit lens is good, but not incredible.
Making Movies, The “movie crop” mode in ML gives better results than standard video too. I have used a few lenses on the eos-m, and good glass does make a big difference. The nifty fifty on the m is pretty nice too, as a cheap lens that gives good results. New sub, looking forward to your future videos.
Amazing Video!!! Will this work on the Canon M100??
No, only orginal M is full supported now
Very informative video! Thinking about picking one of these up as a B cam.
Do you know if the HDMI-out puts out a 1080p image?
It definitely doesn’t. It’s a pretty terrible signal out from HDMI and it isn’t a clean signal either.
@@garrettsammons Gotcha. Thanks for the reply!
Nice. The link to your specific build is down. I tried another build of 2.0.2 and the menus are different.
Did you ever get a reply with an actual link?
Nice video !
I ordered one with Meike adapter for 90 euros cost included.
How long can you film with your current magic lantern settings on 64 gb?
I haven’t pushed the record limit in any tests yet. I think the longest record time I ran was two minutesish.
@@garrettsammons I am thinking to get 128 gb card for it.
Thnx
SD-UHS.MO is not in my magic lantern menu... I can set everything else but not that and I cannot figure out how to get 2.5 k RAW on my EOS M by following your instructions because of the lack of this... I noticed you were opening up the 2018 July 3rd magic lantern but yours was different then mine at the end of the file name it said 1080p... are you using a special version I can’t seem to find? I would appreciate any help you could throw my way... thanks
Hi Tyler! Use the download link in the video description. It’ll give you everything you’re looking for!
I am actually planning to order a couple of these for a movie I am making this coming summer. We figured for the price with the hack, it's a great deal for a nice look as well! Thank you for the video, it helped us decide!
Glad to help man!
@@garrettsammons ive come across a few problems. it wont let me record being one :/
Is the camera on the right firmware?
@@garrettsammons Yeah, it was literally an exact replica pretty much of yours. I may try to reinstall the factory firmware and retry
Let me knows how it goes!
Hey Garett, I was curious actually about the camera and lens you used to make this video ? Amazing grade and image quality so nice.
Isn't raw recording 12BIT?
Not all RAW records in 12bit. And this sensor only is capable of handling just over 8bit. So the 10bit just gives you everything this sensor has to offer. RAW native cameras will give you more options for sure.
It can record 14 bit raw as well
I don't know if magic lantern has updated its download but I cant find any crop in my modules and my scrips look nothing like in the video. Instead of saying things for 2.5k it has a calculater. I can get 14bit raw but have yet to find any thing that helps with the resolution it's self. Any help would be appreciated
Hi Sam. Yah, the current version of ML won’t have any of these settings. I put a download link in the description for the version you’ll need to make it work. Glad you like the video!
This is the critical question! The link to his particular download seems never have been actually published. He has indicated the link is IN the video's "description" -- it is not. The link in the video description is NOT the valid one. You are correct, it has a bunch of games.
Hello, I was wondering if the EOS M could shoot continuous at 1080p at a 4x3(1436 x 1080) aspect ratio? I am planning on shooting a short film this summer and want to get better quality video than what my Fuji xt1 can get. I have a Kowa 2x anamorphic that I plan on using so I'd like to shoot at 4x3 so that I get a 2.4 aspect ratio after the stretch. My main concern is that the EOS M has a limited record time at anything deeper than 10 bit at that ratio but I can not find specific information about it and I would like to know for curtain before pulling the trigger on buying one. Thank you.
Hi William, I’m unsure about 4:3. It’s been awhile since I’ve looked at this little camera. There may be someone lurking in the comments with the answer you’re looking for.
Good video what format is raw video when you edit it and can any video editing software read that format?
Hi! The format directly out of this camera is magic lantern raw, which no NLE can read. I put up a video on how to transcode the footage to make it into a readable format here: th-cam.com/video/UYboGulOi0g/w-d-xo.html
Wow amazing video, thanks a lot! I have a question, is the 2.5k the only mode that crops, for example I see two other modes on the scripts menu called “mv1080p_12bit...”, do they use the full sensor or do they crop as well? Edit: Basically, can you shoot uncropped with this camera and still get some decent codecs? :)
I believe so! I haven’t played with the other raw settings but that is my understanding. Thanks for the love!
Love magic lantern and how it doesn't look like what I have installed on my eos M.
Great video! Can it record 1080p 60 fps? Thanks!
I haven’t played with the new iterations of ML for this camera, but as far as this build goes it cannot shoot in 60fps. They went for resolution of frame rates for some reason.
Really interested in getting one (to go along with my A7 III for a different look/feel)
Do you have any more test footage or feedback? It’s been 2 months now, would love to get some feedback / new tests.
I haven’t shot anything else with it yet. I’ve mainly been using it as an overhead camera (which is why I bought it). I think I’m going to play with the raw more over the holiday though.
thanks for the effort and the sharing. i look forward to your future vids. thumbs up.
Much love! 🙏
I can never get it to work. Shooting using Sandisk extreme 170mb it says. The footage is randonly pink, but I recorded for over 5 minutes.
Oh weird! Pink for 1 frame or throughout the duration of the shot? I’ve never come across that issue.
@@garrettsammons Half of the bottom screen was pink for the duration
I wonder if you fully uninstall and re-install ML, it’ll correct itself?
@@garrettsammons I think some of them just don't accept ML. I have tried this build, I download builds from Zeek, who is amazing with this camera, but mine has never worked correctly
Great video. My M has firmware 2.0.3. Should I downgrade? Because I didn't see a version for that update on the ML site
Yah, unfortunately I don’t think they’ve hacked that firmware version so you’ll need to downgrade first.
I have the t2i with magic lantern, but got it just for a built in intervalometer. After this video I looked through the menus and saw that it does enable 14-bit raw video up to 3.5k, but I don't think my card is fast enough. I got a 90 MB/s extreme plus sandisk and it only allows 640. I mainly want unlimited recording with it if I can.
Yah I don’t think those cards are fast enough. The 95MB/s Pros work nicely for this little guy. No idea how they’d perform on the t2i, but I’d guess that it would get you closer to what you’re looking for.
@@garrettsammons I'm tempted to get the SanDisk Extreme Pro 300 MB/s and try it.
If you do, let me know how it works!
@@garrettsammons Yeah I was looking at the prices and might try the 95 MB/s first.
Got the faster card and tried it out. Did not work. Tested the speeds in the camera and it was only 20 MB/s read and write for both different cards, but the newer one preformed faster when I ran tests on the computer.
So what I'm thinking is since the t2i came out in 2010 it's only able to do the read and write of 20 MB/s while the Canon M came out in 2015 allowing it to be faster.
I just thought I could achieve the better settings since it's in the menu, but the menu might just carry across all of the ML cameras to make it easier on them.
Failed experiment.
Might try the Canon M some time in the future.
Having a few problems with this so far. Under RAW video in the movie section, it reads 1736x584 and won't let me go any higher, saying that anything higher is not possible in current movie mode. Also, when trying to playback footage, it seems to go through each frame and stopping before the end, then freezing so I can't watch back my footage. Sorry I'm quite a novice so could be something quite simple but I can't seem to find a resolution. Also what MLV converting software is best to use for windows 10?
Yah, I’ve noticed playback doesn’t work well. This is most likely due to the processor not being able to keep up with transcoding and playing back high resolution clips simultaneously. I usually eject my card and playback on my laptop anyways so I can see exactly what I captured. In regards to your resolution issue, several folks in the comments said that doing multiple restarts of the camera resolved their issue. Maybe give that a try. Because this is an unsupported hack, it can get pretty screwy. Here’s a link to what app I use to transcode and how I export the footage: th-cam.com/video/UYboGulOi0g/w-d-xo.html
Making Movies brill! I’ll try that! thanks so much for your help! Love the videos!
you can get a .71x speedbooster from viltrox which will definitely help with the crop
I really wanna install magic lantern onto my 90d but I am really nervous incase something goes wrong
That's the risky part about Magic Lantern.
aren't you sacrificing a lot of optical resolution given that you get 2K from such a small part of the sensor?
Nope! The reason it works, is the sensor is a much higher resolution than video needs. So, it’s 2.5k native, meaning it’s only using the center part of the frame it needs. It helps with processing power, but it creates a terrible crop in the process.
Hi! is it possible to answer on that you shoot this video? setup.
I mean body\lens\light.
Amazon links
Yah! I think I’ll do a whole video on it. For now, check out the link to my Kit in the description. It has links to everything I use to shoot.
I wonder if this would work for the 650d also. They are essentially the same thing under the hood.
Thank you for this awesome tutorial! I have been following along but some of the options you had turned on dont seem to be included in my version of magic lantern. as of today I installed the latest build but some of the modules you had seem to be missing on my camera
Did you download the version in the video description? It isn’t the latest version of the nightly build because they have since removed some of the features 😬
Making Movies Oh!!! that explains so much now , I totally downloaded the lastest build but now I get it! let me try that out and ill get back. Thank you for the reply mate
Making Movies: yeah, funny that... I had a version from February, which didn't include those options. So I went and downloaded one of the older nightlies (the last few had a failing test in the CI, so I picked the latest one before that), and lo and behold, still the same options. ;)
What I'm missing:
* The option to overclock the SD
* The ability to go any higher than 1728*692 (probably related)
* Every single script you turned on
I do have an option mlv_rec though, which you seem to lack. Also, under Raw Video, I have a second entry: Raw Video (MLV)
Did you download from the direct link in the description? The version I have isn’t on the official nightly build list.
And for those wondering: yes, after loading the ML version linked in the description, those entries appear.
Guess they must've taken these options out for a reason though.
Great video. I found other people that spent more time with great lenses for this camera and results are beyond stunning
Hey do you get autofocus on your GH5??? I'm using literally an identical lens setup to you, save for a blackmagic pocket 4K body and cant figure it out
I’m not sure about the autofocus function on the BMPCC4K. The menu structure is entirely different from Panasonic, even though they share the same sensor. Sorry 😐
Much appreciated on the video. However I can't seem to access the scripts on the ML menu(it just does not show up). In fact I only have about 10 tabs that show up on my ML menu where you seem to have 12 tabs; I have no Scripts, and the star and triangle tabs aren't there for me either. I also can't access sd_uhs on the modules. Is there something i'm missing? Your help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks😀
Did you download ML from the link in my bio? If you get the current ML nightly build, it won’t have the necessary modules and scripts to run this.
I did now. Thanks for the assist😀 Now if I can get my RAW to go from 0×0 to the 2520×1080 that you have. My FPS is at an even 24, and the Rolling Shutter is at 22.4. Do I need to change my aspect ratio? It's set at 16:9.
A few others mentioned restarting the camera several times to fix that issue. It isn’t a problem I’ve come across myself.
I'll keep you posted. Once again thank you very much😀
Ok; I got my exact fps to be 23.976; my rolling shutter however is 22.3; RAW video is at 1736×976 at a crop of 4.83x(aspect ratio 16:9); not sure how to set that crop at 3.33x.
dang, such great video and so few views!
I wonder if this camera would be handy for shooting reviews... A bit doubtful due to this crop ratio...
Thanks for the love! Yah, I think this would be limited to shooting cinematic pieces.
@@garrettsammons thank you! Looking forward to seeing your new videos :)
Really well explained! Thanks
Awesome video! Is it possible to increase the fps with the Magic Lantern applied? Or can you only increase the resolution?
I wish! To my knowledge, they only played with resolution and your frame rates are limited up to 30p
Hello, I have Canon eos m firmware v2.0.3, how can I downgrade to install ML ?
I don’t know the exact steps off the top of my head but a quick google search should land you in the right direction. I believe you load the firmware via EOS Utility but I haven’t done it on this camera so I don’t actually know.
did you do on eos m2, @ zeek youtube channel m2 has better dynamic range and low light with this same ML installed.
If I'm not mistaken, the M2 uses a newer Digic chip. If that's the case, this hack wouldn't work on that.
can this be used for livestreaming without a shutoff or overlays?
No, the hdmi output is really low-res.
Hi Mate, wondering what one does when they have the firmware version above 2.2. I have 2.2.3? Doesn't seem to take?
Yah, unfortunately you’ll need to downgrade the firmware before you can load ML in. I don’t know off the top of my head how it’s done but I do know there are tutorials online about how to do it.
@@garrettsammons Thanks Man. btw I like your video, and the footage looks good too!
Thanks so much! 🙏
@@garrettsammons Cheers mate, have worked it out (somehow lol), now a question to you: Have you started filming in raw only to have ML code running over your screen while trying to film?
That, my friend, is something I’ve never run across... did you load the scripts in addition to the modules?
Do you need high storage to install the ML update? I have an 8gb card as I only got it recently and the download doesn't work, my firmware is currently 2.0.3. - the latest.
You need to downgrade the firmware in your EOS-M as ML doesn’t work with that version of Canon Firmware. I go over that in the video.
Making Movies I mean Jesus a response to my question that fast deserves a subscriber - cheers mate!
Just bought one for £70, can't wait to play around with it!
Awesome!!! Send me a link to what you shoot. I’m so excited to see what people do with this little thing.
Thats real cheap. Did you get a lens with that?
@@AltCine Sadly not, I got a couple of batteries and 16+32GB SD cards though (not the type for video, but a nice touch). Most 1st gen Ms seem to go for that kind of price on eBay UK.
I'm thinking of getting the Viltrox AF speedbooster when it comes out, as I have a few EF lenses.
Where did you get the "sd_uhs.mo" module? I have downloaded what seems to be the same file, but instead of the eight modules you have, Ii got 18 in total, but no "sd_uhs.mo".
Any Idea what the difference is?
Check the download link in the video description. It’s the only place I know that has it.
Hello! Is any differences between eos m and m2? Thanks!
The M2 is not compatible with this hack due to the chip inside the camera being different.
Only 10 bit?
Great video, I'm getting one soon and was wondering how cropped it would be if I used a small 25mm lens on it, would it be too cropped or would it be useable do u recon,
Thanks, :-D
With the 3.33x crop, you’re 25mm would behave somewhere around an 83mm lens. Something that is still completely useable, but by no means a wide/angle lens.
Any chance to get a realtime preview ?
very impressive! Need more subs! Question. how does the camera handle with over heating. I'm looking at this just for a bit of fun. maybe give myself a challenge and see if I can record a short film on a proper budget. I know other mirrorless cameras over heat and was wondering how it did with prolonged shooting.
So you record at 2.5k then upscale or not? or maby downscale to 1080? if i will upload it to youtube for example?
I’d downscale to get killer 1080p. I don’t think it’s strong enough to upscale and hold its image well.
Thank you Garret for this Video ... very usefull. But sorry, the Link to the EOS M Magic Lantern download doesn't work anymore. Du you have another Link?? bruno
Did you ever get an answer?
Hi mate, thanks for the great video. What clog picture profile do you have there?
James Miller makes a Canon C-Log 3 profile he sells through Deluts. It’s amazing!
I picked up an original EOS-M about a year ago and have been rocking it with Magic Lantern ever since. It's pretty solid, But I also have been using a 70D and wow. That's so much faster. Not saying the EOS-M isn't one of the perfect learning cameras but it is slow to do just about everything.
You’re 100% right
So If i want a 35mm i need something about a 10mm lens?
Basically, yes. It's a wild amount of crop.