Why this $200 cinema camera is still popular 10 years later
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Nigel...your footage is exquisite 👌🏾 great video and even better I saw my face in the video 😅
You're one of the main reasons I picked this camera up again, thanks for all the great content on it!
@@NigelBarros you're welcome brother 🙏🏾🙏🏾
Definitely one of my favorite trends are people taking older cameras and using hacks, tricks, etc to shoot better video with them or bypass certain settings/unlock more settings. I know you talked about it before with old Panasonics I believe but would love to see more people doing this with other old cameras from all different brands
Yeah, I still have my C100 and would really love to know what else could be squeezed out of it
Speaking of, GoPro released much cheaper 2018 model action camera with cut down resolution, but someone discovered it has the same CPU and sensor as more expensive GoPro black series cameras and flashed black series firmware to unlock the same features black series has, including 4K.
@@FVBmovies Well now I have a new rabbit hole to go down lol
@@willmgs3903 Hold your horses, this was some time ago, but even wifi routers such as TP-LINK, Linksys or Asus etc. have 3rd party firmware (DD-WRT, Open-WRT, Tomatoe) which usually unlock new features, some are too cheap or locked down to reflash. I remember customizing Intel server CPUs, which were more powerful, to fit into completely different motherboard socket (LGA 771 -> LGA 775), courtesy of some Asian researcher. Customization brings so much value to device life itself and tinkering for curious.
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Eos M really inspired me to dive into the art of filmaking. I am a product photog and video editor for the past 3 years but when I was introduced to this cheap budget cinema cam, my passion for cinematography ignited and now I am using this cam for various event works. Thanks to ML and its community, forever grateful!
can this eos m use for wedding video?
@@yonifanhakim1296 there are so many risks when you use magic lantern for any specific event videography. For same day edit, I don't recommend it at all bc of mlv to editing software method. But for take home edit, it will be just fine. You just have to choose proper method inside ML to fit your needs.
So happy the eosM still gets so much love. Im really proud to be part of the EosM community
Masterpiece! Even the dang ad read was fantastic. I hope you're super proud of this one.
Oooooh yes, the good old eos m - on my channel you'll find even a wedding video I shot with this cam in RAW. I remember how worried I was because the camera wasn't reliable at all - but in the end it was fun and turned out great 😅
How did you do it 😮
@@LouisLuzuka thank you for asking - did you ever use an eos m with magic lantern? You have a choppy preview in almost black and white and with that you can get an idea of how your framing looks. Together with some experience and knowing how different focal lengths look like and how manual focus works, you record and hope for the best :D
I believe they unlocked a better preview for the high-res recording modes now. I've still got that camera on my shelf, but I haven't used it in a long time now. It will probably be easier now to get good results.
Feel free to ask further questions 😉
@@jonasboehringer I just don’t know how you can feel so confident without knowing the end results, I’d be too afraid in case I missed the shot. I recently got engaged and during the proposal I thought of filming it in magic lantern but then I realized what if I don’t get the shot because I’m not going to be behind the camera I will be hiding the camera so, I just filmed regular and got the footage but I always wondered what it would look like if i shot in raw
Thank you for your response. I can relate with that fear! ...and that's why I worked my path up to a more reliable and professional camera.
Make sure you do some testing before - and I probably wouldn't keep the camera unattended like in scenario you mentioned. Especially if it's my engagement or wedding 😄🙏
It's amazing the camera's potential to shoot raw in 2012, and Canon still has yet to release a mirrorless camera that can record raw internally. To me it makes me think that the tech and features are out there, but they are being throttled to protect profits.
it seems that you can read my mind :)
the only brand that gives free some specs is panasonic and thats cause they wanna be in the game .... but they also have their flaws
R5 and R5C can shoot raw
It's caused off of an patent by red just look it up "raw patent red" plenty of vids out there about that subject too
C200, C70, R5 and R5C all do internal RAW.
I’ve been watching your channel on and off for a few years and now I’m blown away by the creative style you discovered for yourself … I wasn’t expecting to come back to what almost looks like a short film… amazing work my dude. Almost crying watching a damn camera review…
I had the M1, thanks to your video from 8 years ago. I found the ML software to be super slow. Mind you, 8 years ago that version of ML was still pretty beta. Glad you are still shooting with it. I've been shooting with the pocket cinema 4K for the past 5 years but I do miss the simplicity and compactness of the M1. I hear the Sigma FP1 has a pretty niche user group as well.
Love using this camera. Thanks for making a great visual poem for it.
I love the capoeira shots at 1min 20 secs! I definitely want to check out "old" cameras more into 2024! Love your channel man!
This one is one of my favorite video's from you. Nice work Nigel! I own the GH3 because of you, and now this camera is on the wishlist too. Interesting! Your footage from this camera is really nice and spot on.
I appreciate that! I always love talking about older cameras that still kill it! I may make more videos about legendary older/cheap cameras
Shot some newborn films on this camera back in 2019! I think this is the best looking broll you’ve ever shot. Some of them were absolutely stunning. Also glad to see the Element in there!
I have one of these cameras but have had the hardest time getting a good grade out of it. Making a video about how to process the footage to get beautiful looking stuff like yours would be amazing! Great video
I bought a used eos-m years ago largely because of your original eos-m video. I didn't kit it out completely like you did but I did use it in conjunction with my 60D.
So good to see you back in the pacific northwest. I have the GH3 because of you. Thank you
Was always curious about this little camera! Beautiful coloring reveal on your partner with the coffee cup!
I've always enjoyed your videos, partly because of the information, and partly because of the warm and encouraging way you present that information. At the point in the video when you say "you can't get a better looking image than this", there's a person in the frame. It seems to me to be a very tender shout out.
Yup, that's my wife, she's always down to model for me and she looks good on camera haha
Wow, I have followed you for a while and always loved how you can take some budget gear and prove it can hold its own and that gear really does not matter if you just take the time to learn to use it, this was an awesome video, the mood, the way you conveyed your message, you should be proud and I am glad you keep pushing content out that feels good for what you do and not trying to hard to be what others do, this was a beautiful piece, informative and inspirational!!
It really has its own charm with the image. Good stuff
Great looking video. Well done! Also, a good review of the revitalized EOS M. I've toyed with the idea of getting one. Merry Christmas to you and your wife!
Thank you for this. It brought back so many memories... indeed - this was a beautiful camera.
I think a lot of us would LOVE more videos about this camera. How you expose and shoot, what lenses you use, how you export, edit and color grade to achieve the results you had...
I may make more videos on this camera in the future, but for now I kinda wanted to revisit it for nostalgias sake haha
@@NigelBarros Thanks! I dont know why but the images I see from this camera look more "filmlike" than other modern cameras
Zeek has all of that if you're wanting to get started
Dude I've never heard of this camera but that is CRAZY affordable. I'd probably want to get better at editing raw footage but this seems like the best deal out there. Awesome video yet again, Nigel!
There's a LOT of caveats but well worth it. You don't wanna take it on proper shoots without studying this camera under multiple conditions and knowing it inside out
Quality video as always dude
Shots actually are sick with this 🔥
It’s kind of silly to say, but I appreciate your revisiting the EOS M because it feels like a validation-I brought mine out of retirement a few months ago, installed ML Crop Mood and rigged it out to be B cam on a documentary project to my FX30. It has really impressed me with it quality and flexibility. To be able export from MLV app in Slog and grade alongside my Sony footage is really remarkable.
I feel that, I exported these 1080p raw files into 4k pores files from MLV app and uses S-log3 profile. Turned out better than I thought it could!
Terrific content man 🤘
Love the video Nigel! Also we love AUDIIO!! I got that lifetime subscription for both sound and music months ago and no regrets ever since!
Very good and inspiring video. All The best from Malmö, Sweden
Thanks Nigel for the great video. I loved seeing the Columbia River and the area around Cascade Locks again. It is one of the most beautiful places in the world.
Right? its my backyard essentially and I can't get enough of it!
I've followed you for some time, and this is one of my favorite videos you've ever made 😀
The same for me. Ive been following Nigel for some 2 years and this is one of his bestest👏🏻👏🏻
I appreciate that a lot, I want to start shifting my video format into more stuff like this
Fantastic images! Well done! I have a Canon 5dMk3 with Magiclantern but it ended up in my drawer and I now use the FX30. But I am thinking of getting out to shoot with it after I saw your video!
Dope video- really good looking footage
Love the cinematography man ❤
so good Nigel!
As I was watching this video I was wondering to myself why do lot of the locations look familiar to me? And then once I saw the amazing shot of the gorge I instantly knew why it all looked familiar. I’m glad to see there’s great content creators like you out here locally and capturing the PNW in its natural beauty. Cheers bro.
Great video, almost made me go buy one. thanx
Great content! Your video's are so chill and claiming, the coloring is really pleasant to look at. One question, what's the name of that cage? I have a Lumix G100 I want to rig up. Thnx!
I linked the rig i built out in the description, it probably won't fit the G100 though
I've always found this camera interesting, Nigel "budget" Barros another great video and reminder to just have fun with it.
So many great cameras that still record amazing footage years later. I did notice some purple fringing with the EOS M so only so much you can do with it in a professional setting. Great footage though. Thanks for the video!
Lovely man... such great quality and evocative imagery. You really bring out the best in this camera. If you don't mind me asking, what geographical location is that? Really makes me want to visit :)
What a beautiful short film man this was a great production!!
And I still love my EOS M100 but missed the boat on the EOS M
omggg the wittle smallrig cage is so cuuuuute!
Man those clips were awesome😮
Lovely! I thought you were going to the Blackmagic Cinema Camera though, that was a groundbreaking camera for its time. Love the EOS M, more for stills than anything else, paired with the EF-M primes
Element buddys! 4 years ago i had the 5dm3 and i was too confused about how to hack it with my first cam. But this footage is making me reconsider getting the 5d again.
I bought this camera on your recommendation seven years ago and I loved it! I need to dust it off and use it again.
That's crazy! yeah its come a long way since then!
The EOS M was my first camera. Loved that thing. Still kinda miss it. That 22mm prime was fantastic too
Hey Nigel, cool video. I don't watch a lot of TH-cam, but I have always found your approach refreshing and honest. That out the way, I've been shooting ML Raw on a 5D Mark iii since 2017, I've tried a few other cameras since, including the Sigma FP... which in some ways is the closest thing on the market to ML Raw, but I still think the 1080p raw from ML Raw beats it. With that said, I noticed in your video that you had your resolution set at 1740x936 (or something similar) and I was wondering... is that what the clips in your video were shot at? If so, did you upres the footage? Either way, it looks great and I love seeing people come around to ML Raw... for the money, no matter if it's an eos-m or the 5D3 King of ML Raw, there isn't a better image for the price point.
Loved my eos m and magic lantern when I was first starting out, such a great little camera shout out Ed and feral cat! Wasn’t expecting to see some local spots on this review hahaha
PNW is very photogenic 😁👍 Great shots. Thanks for spreading the word about this camera 📸✨
hey nigel love your videos! can I purchase the lut you are using?
Nice vid! I've had the canon t4i for several years now as my beginner in photography and videography. But in the past year or so magic lantern has massively opened up the value of it for me. Especially when I discovered crop mood like a month ago. Before crop mood I kind of didn't like using because of the workload for getting less than 1080p with baked in crop. But with crop mood, I can do so much more with it (my camera can handle 4.8k RAW at 12 bit color with specific crops/aspect ratios). Although the sensor is still an old aps-c dslr and so it isn't as good as the EOS M. Low light sucks on it. I can't trust it at or above 800 ISO because of all the denoise work I'll have to do in post on the MLV app later. I also have a Sony a6400 which picks up the slack for in lowlight tho. But now with crop mood, I hope to shoot more with the t4i to get better with colorgrading and doing some small narrative short films on it.
heres a little bit of advice for lowlight shooting on eos m for high isos(usable 3200iso). for one, use fast lenses and primes(obviously, the autofocus sucks), but more importantly, shoot higher res for low light(cleans up better with noise reduction than 1080p mode). in the mlv app, change the color space from rec 709 to arri wide gamut(you dont hsve to put it in arri log, but be sure its using arri wide gamut), next put vibrancy at 36, and use chroma denoise. DO NOT TOUCH THE LUMINANCE DENOISE, IT IS AWFUL. using chroma denoise will turn your color grain into what looks like film grain and it looks surprisingly good, only a very slight reduction is the red parts of your image. the most important part is to make sure you are using arri wide gamut, because using red 709 will smear your image while its a lot sharper and clearer to use arri wide
@@itsapinecone7280 Thanks! I do have some fast lenses (f1.4 and f2.8s) but that those tips on the chroma denoi9se and vibrancy is super helpful!
Wow nicely done Nigel I am very fan of Cannon Cameras
great video Nigel. I have almost bought this one quite a few times...maybe I actually will this time.
Great video! This proves that you don't need the latest of the latest camera/lens to create something nice.
Looks like the Pacific Northwest! Might have even see some shots on Cannon Beach/Astoria?
Never heard of this camera before. I'm diving into vlog and am looking for something affordable, I'd love to hear more about what lens to pair with it and what editing software is good/ I mean I guess capcut is good.
Very much like the colors on your video. Can you explain the process, some specific points?
My first ever real street photography camera. I’ve had about 5 or 6 of these over the years. I absolutely love it. Zeek played a massive part in why I kept buying them 😂 great video again Nigel 🙌🏼
Zeek is the GOAT and inspired so many to continue pushing EOS M.
@@getfmlr facts!
I'm start my journey of street photography with this little M too. It taught me a lot by having to do everything manually, maxing out the potential of this slow and very basic function camera to make a good output. If you can use this slow heck AF to take a great photo and play with ML, you can use literally any camera to do anything in the world.
You've had five or six? Do they keep on breaking?
@@DavidCowie2022 Prices have gone up significantly since people have made videos about the capabilities. So whenever someone sees one for cheap they just buy it. The files for magic lantern reside on the memory card so it's pretty hard to break it.
Thanks Nigel! Love these types of ideas, definitely interested in trying the camera. Reminds me of Magic Lantern on my Canon t2i in 2012 :-)
you made me buy this camera back in 2018, my first camera
I love this camera 😊 I'm still using it as my main camera on my channel, I paired it with m42 mount lenses 😊
I got this camera when it first came out not knowing what powers it had hidden within. I simply bought it because it was cheap and small. I still remember when Magic Lantern first came out and we could only shoot about a minute of 720p RAW at a time. It just keeps getting better with age
With the latest update to the Magic Lantern code this little camera has become a RAW beast packing cinematic qualities into its tiny form factor.
Was this all shot with the kit kens also? Ive had my EOS-M a few years now but never really tried to get into it. Now im more interested in film making I'll have lots of homework to do 😁. Would love to rig mine out similar. Shame a lot if the parts are unavailable in the UK.
Lovely little video 😊
Just one question; what if I just want to shoot video not in RAW? I don't have the time or inclination to do color grading etc etc.
Is this camera still worth getting? Thanks 😊
This camera is not for you if you are wanting a quick easy image straight out of camera, it is in fact the opposite
Hmmm....interesting!
Thanks for pointing this camera out. You certainly woke something up in me.
Just picked up the EOS-M with a kit lens, Nifty 50, EF adapter and a extra battery for $300 CAN! Your videos are awesome! And also I skate as well, nice try on that front blunt haha.
i really want to try this setup years ago till now, really curious about magic lantern, and i always like to mess around with my electronics lol
its not perfect but definitely miles better than it was back in the day. I'd recommend watching @Zeek's videos and videos from @IMCE to get up to date on it!
you can reduce some moire in da vinci just set spatial threshold - chroma: 14 , in motion effect tab )
Shout from Burning Earth Media also in OC! We noticed the paper mill down the hill from us in your review. 🤘
Getting into photography and cinematography, this might be my entry camera instead of the bmpcc
I have an EOS-M, never really used it. I have 5D, a 6D and a 70D. But I am a portrait photograhper. I had ML installed on a 7D (I do miss that camera). But now I bougth a microphone and a couple of small LED ligths. I think I will try ML out on the M. :)
price about to go up lol..just like justin phillips did with the sigma fp then he goes and sells it . I have never heard of this camera, images look great but I will say when a decent or good tool is used by someone skilled the results will shine. Great video man
Look up Zeek and that's all you need to watch about this camera.
Thanks Nigel, great video as always ❤ Could you please share your thoughts about GH5 and GH5S? I mean if you could pick up just one if them, what will you do?🙌
That may be a video for the future for sure, the GH just gets cheaper as time passes and its still so incredible!
The only camera i felt similar to this was the first blackmagic pocket cinema cameera
I learned so much from Zeek and I’ve never even used magic lantern, and my m3 can’t use it. He’s just so talented. I miss his stuff.
It's nice to find one of these videos and the auction prices actually matches the price in your title, usually it's 4-5x. Not sure if that's because I'm late to those videos, or they're bluffing lol
Hermosas imágenes, bellos recuerdos 😊
Hi. What is the model of this camera. Will be looking to get one. Thank you.
Which lens u have used in this video?
I noticed a lot of banding and artifacts with trees and some of the water shots, is that present in your raw edit?
You just sold me on exactly what I needed
700D user here.... Great video.
What’s the best quality setting with this camera in crop mood for unlimited recording ?
I really want to get into a full frame camera, likely the R8. But I'm holding onto my Canon M50 hoping that someone figures out how to put Magic Latern onto it.
Incredible!
Love it
Everyone complained about it when it came out. I got it super discounted with 2 lens, under half retail! I think its one of the best cameras I've ever had the f2 lens is amazing. I have since given it to my son who uses it regularly. I told him never sell it, I'll buy it back. so small, super easy to use, genuinely pocketable and beautiful looking. The lesson to learn here is, reviewers go through so many cameras they have to find faults, this ones main criticism was slow focus for a compact and as a result could not compete with the established compacts of the day, most if not all had smaller censors and its release price was very high in comparison, so understandable the reviewers weren't very nice about it.
There is no flat profile on Magic Lantern so I'm curious about what you did there.
what filters you use in this video?
Which lens u used here
Well, there goes 200 bucks. (actually 170 + adapter and lens, not a bad deal) Curious how this magic latern firmware will go, guess we'll see when it arrives.
Thanks for posting!
just curious whats up with the artifacts on the branches/edges? is this common
Awesome! Cult follower here 😅 It hasn't a super35 sensor but an APS-C sensor though (and using crop modes you get closer to MFT)
super 35 and APS-C are essentially the same thing. and yeah i didn't bother with the crop modes, everything I shot was 1080 which uses the full sensor
I have a canon M6. Would that camera work similar to the canon M, you talk about so fondly?
i just got my fx30 but i still love the color i get from my canon eos m.
I also had an eos m with magic lantern and in the end I had to sell it due to an annoying 1080 crop. I certainly didn't want to study too much magic lantern and I must have had some wrong settings