That's actually a very clever way for Bungie to get the monitor to look at you. Think of it this way, they have it as a very basic "kill player on sight" behavior. By giving it a weapon, but one with no projectile, the monitor can look at players. It would require basically no extra work for them to code and provides a simple fix. Clever software engineering, 100%
Feel like just a basic lookat script would be even simpler, but guessing they just yoinked whatever code they'd already developed for turrets to do the same basic thing so they wouldn't have to make any unique code used for only one asset.
@@monody The point is the basic AI targeting stuff is already written so to do that, they would have to reinvent the wheel. Copy Pasta - Code Writing 101. Seriously though, reusing assets and tested code can save you hours or days, of writing new stuff that effectively does the same thing, albeit through different methods.
They also probably were going to do a full blown sneak section. It's essentially a camera with a turret, which explains why why they just took it out and left the bare bones of it for atheistic reasons.
Absolutely. Pop some of those Forerunner energy cells on the walls of the monitor's chamber, and on the monitor itself, like a boss fight. But also place all weapons in its line of sight
@@Chuck_Norris_ I'd say this is the case for any game that haven't had any new content for years and have TH-camrs dependant on content from said game. A lot of TH-cam channels actually die with said game the channel is focused on when the game stagnates or loses popularity. That is why it is always important if a TH-camr wants to be successful, they need to branch out and do other kinds of content too. Sticking with a single game that made you popular is also going to be your downfall in the future if you do not branch out. No game lasts forever, no matter how groundbreaking or amazing it is. Either the game loses popularity or the fanbase "grows away" from it over years or decades.
Exactly what I was thinking lol. This reminds me of when Dark Souls TH-camrs find interesting things within the game & lore (like Zullie The Witch & VaatiVidya), and a handful of other creators post pretty much the same videos while they USUALLY give the proper credit to the "finders" of the content.
You can also get a lot of modded custom games from the fileshare of trustysn00ze these modded gametypes only require the gametype and sometimes the map variant from file share, and they work on Xbox as well
makes me wonder if there was some planned easter egg, or something more to this map than originally intended an it was just cut. imagine if you shot at it, and the monitor decided to vaporize you or something lol
seeing all this hidden stuff in the older halo games makes you wonder, what other old games have creepy things hidden within them that people haven't found yet
This was really cool to watch! Though, question: would it be possible to make a customs game mode that uses the lethal monitor? Maybe have it be like Duck Hunt, where one person enters into the monitor and has to kill the other infected.
A mode where you can get infected would be enough for me. Come on ODST firefight update 🤞they already got flood but no infecting players and zooming in after respawning to see your ODST snapping his neck being infected
That’s actually quite an idea. But if cold storage is a place to contain the flood forms that the forerunner’s most likely kept around for humanity to study after their reclamation of the mantle as the precursors intended, then wouldn’t that so called monitor actually be hooked to a machine that channels immense energy into the monitor’s beam to cleanse the location of a flood outbreak? Your Duck Hunt Infection idea would then be deemed historic in the sense of Halo lore
Rather ironic when you take into account the map's lore, aside from that though it's probably remnant debugging code to test how animations and such work, it's very cool regardless however and I didn't even notice it there to begin with so that's even cooler.
Would it be possible for this to be in other maps, or expand the original map? I can think of so many good custom games with this, imagine a cops and robbers type game where this is a camera
See now I'm wondering if that was originally planned for a game type where the Monitor would slide back and forth along the ceiling track, targeting players in a "defensive" mode (the players are contaminating the experiment site with their fight) and then half way through the match the Flood break out of containment, and suddenly you're fighting WITH the Monitor to contain the outbreak until the match ends. All the while it's still RvB fighting st the same time. You could choose to fight the rival team and possibly doom everyone, or fight against the Flood and pull a win.
That sounds awesome. I sometimes wonder how bad of graphics I could put up with in a game as long as controls and gameplay were good. Lot of pretty games now but I haven't had fun like I used to in years.
I feel like I saw this video months ago but it was Generalkidd who went through the aspects of the Monitor, including being a vehicle and having a weapon.
This reminds me of the Halo 3 multiplayer (and beta) vidoc where Bungie had plans (and were scrapt) to integrate AI turrets on maps like High Ground that help the defending team defend the base from the other team.
I wonder if the security cameras in The Pit function the same way, and that they, like the monitor, are trying to kill you but have a null projectile that prevents them from doing so.
Generalkidd already explained this years ago. Plus, i even knew about the monitor looking at you. It was a pain in the ass trying to hide and it just gives you away to the enemies.
This reminds me of how bungie did Nokris in Destiny 2 season arrivals. During that season there was an activity where the character Nokris would talk to you, and it turns out he was actually there, just way outside the bounds of the map.
I knew about the vehicle, but not the weapon or its intent. You're right. That already creepy map just shot up 30 creep points. I always wondered if there was a secret way to break the glass and this unending horde of flood just pours in killing everyone. The thought it could happen scared me
Ohhh, daaaaaaaaamn do I miss the HELL outta Halo 3! This really seems like a cut feature that they didn't have the time to fully develop or implement. I'd really love to hear the original idea behind this.
I would love to see some mod that kills you upon contact with the light and play a game of flashlight tag essentially with that thing with some objective underneath.
This is clearly not a vehicle, but the way the devs got the monitor to look at the player. There is most likely an enemy inside of it, which is operating the monitor as a turret, which makes it turn towards players. This saves a lot of work for the devs, and makes a lot of sense when you think about it.
Imagine a gamemode where one player is this big monitor and the others are attempting to kill said monitor. The big monitor would have some manner of cannon and the player inside would be tasked with eliminating all of the attacking players, while said attackers look for power-weapons to defeat the monitor. Big fun.
The reason it fires a blank weapon at the player is because there is an AI in the vehicle, and by giving it a weapon, it can simply be given full awareness of PCs in the environment, and told to 'shoot' them. Creating a cheap method for the monitor to track the player. 2/10, want my time back.
creepy fact: all forerunner monitors are partly ancient humans soul and body. Initially they remember their past life but over time their new processor and inorganic body make them lose their memories of their past life.
Too bad we only get to see this giant version of a monitor here besides the Helljumper comic. Guessing the forunners make these to particularly manage facilities but at a cheaper cost due to their size possibly. Wonder if they can float besides just being stuck on the ceiling.
My guess, is that bungie gave this monitor a projectile-less weapon because the ai won't target or follow anything unless it's shooting something at someone.
I wish they could've made it slide along that rail track in the ceiling. It seems like that was intended. With it being a vehicle and all, do you think you could look into enabling or jury rigging that to work?
This is the reality where Wheatley test Spartans
Why did this make me want a portal halo mod
@@ChocoDonutzz1657 lmao the cores and the monitors are quite similar in appearance
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That's actually a very clever way for Bungie to get the monitor to look at you. Think of it this way, they have it as a very basic "kill player on sight" behavior. By giving it a weapon, but one with no projectile, the monitor can look at players. It would require basically no extra work for them to code and provides a simple fix. Clever software engineering, 100%
Feel like just a basic lookat script would be even simpler, but guessing they just yoinked whatever code they'd already developed for turrets to do the same basic thing so they wouldn't have to make any unique code used for only one asset.
@@monody The point is the basic AI targeting stuff is already written so to do that, they would have to reinvent the wheel. Copy Pasta - Code Writing 101. Seriously though, reusing assets and tested code can save you hours or days, of writing new stuff that effectively does the same thing, albeit through different methods.
@@joeb6750 So the point you felt the need to say to me, was the exact point I made?
this is exactly what i was gonna take a guess at its purpose. it makes sense though.
They also probably were going to do a full blown sneak section. It's essentially a camera with a turret, which explains why why they just took it out and left the bare bones of it for atheistic reasons.
Guilty Spark did alot of damage with his laser just imagine him even larger, the damage he could do would be insane.
Oh god
Ghosts of Onyx told what millions of sentinels making up a shield world can do to a covenant fleet in seconds
Death Star time
I feel like there is a possibility for a interesting gamemode there with the monitor shooting a beam
Absolutely. Pop some of those Forerunner energy cells on the walls of the monitor's chamber, and on the monitor itself, like a boss fight. But also place all weapons in its line of sight
The gamemode is "Who can camp Invis Room the longest".
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Red light grean light lol
"Never heard of the secret vehicle" *me who watches generalkid* : ahem
90% of halo youtubers are like this, one finds something all other's follow as there has been a massive content drought they all get desperate.
Same 😂
It’s nice to see this is the most liked comment
@@Chuck_Norris_ I'd say this is the case for any game that haven't had any new content for years and have TH-camrs dependant on content from said game. A lot of TH-cam channels actually die with said game the channel is focused on when the game stagnates or loses popularity. That is why it is always important if a TH-camr wants to be successful, they need to branch out and do other kinds of content too. Sticking with a single game that made you popular is also going to be your downfall in the future if you do not branch out. No game lasts forever, no matter how groundbreaking or amazing it is. Either the game loses popularity or the fanbase "grows away" from it over years or decades.
Exactly what I was thinking lol. This reminds me of when Dark Souls TH-camrs find interesting things within the game & lore (like Zullie The Witch & VaatiVidya), and a handful of other creators post pretty much the same videos while they USUALLY give the proper credit to the "finders" of the content.
“Trying to kill you at all times, but it can’t” sums up cat ownership pretty nicely
Theres a mod on Halo Reach where you can play as a Forge Monitor and increase your size we could recreate that for custom games.
You can also get a lot of modded custom games from the fileshare of trustysn00ze these modded gametypes only require the gametype and sometimes the map variant from file share, and they work on Xbox as well
@@Atrocityyyz for people who don't have PC...
@@josephcasper3392 You can sometimes play modded maps on Xbox
@@arcturus4317 cool
"I took the monitor integrated defender weapon and converted it into a beam"
Monitor: "Oh, why hello there spartan. *DELETE* "
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makes me wonder if there was some planned easter egg, or something more to this map than originally intended an it was just cut. imagine if you shot at it, and the monitor decided to vaporize you or something lol
Now I'm imagining that S I L E N C E Spider Laser Beam Meme.
seeing all this hidden stuff in the older halo games makes you wonder, what other old games have creepy things hidden within them that people haven't found yet
Would love a survival game where you have to escape the monitor beam through some kinda duck hunt maze
This was really cool to watch! Though, question: would it be possible to make a customs game mode that uses the lethal monitor?
Maybe have it be like Duck Hunt, where one person enters into the monitor and has to kill the other infected.
A mode where you can get infected would be enough for me. Come on ODST firefight update 🤞they already got flood but no infecting players and zooming in after respawning to see your ODST snapping his neck being infected
That’s actually quite an idea.
But if cold storage is a place to contain the flood forms that the forerunner’s most likely kept around for humanity to study after their reclamation of the mantle as the precursors intended, then wouldn’t that so called monitor actually be hooked to a machine that channels immense energy into the monitor’s beam to cleanse the location of a flood outbreak?
Your Duck Hunt Infection idea would then be deemed historic in the sense of Halo lore
3:26 good to know you are still using my ODST sound pack
Ok here’s an idea: general heed proved that enforcers are vehicles that have an ai in them. Can you flip the ai out?
Maybe, but I don't think you'd be able to use it in normal, unmodified gameplay because the driver seat is most likely disabled for players.
Rather ironic when you take into account the map's lore, aside from that though it's probably remnant debugging code to test how animations and such work, it's very cool regardless however and I didn't even notice it there to begin with so that's even cooler.
No it’s probably just the easiest way to have a creepy set piece object look at players, it’s not some debug thing, this is a center piece of the map
pretty sure it needs a weapon to be able to keep "aiming" or looking at you. it's probably just there for that
its given a weapon with no progectiles
The monitor would make an interesting gamemode
I know right.
Would it be possible for this to be in other maps, or expand the original map? I can think of so many good custom games with this, imagine a cops and robbers type game where this is a camera
When we get proper Halo 3 mod tools, we're adding this to the cut guardian level just for fun.
*Ahem*, uh, AFTER we make a suitable map
See now I'm wondering if that was originally planned for a game type where the Monitor would slide back and forth along the ceiling track, targeting players in a "defensive" mode (the players are contaminating the experiment site with their fight) and then half way through the match the Flood break out of containment, and suddenly you're fighting WITH the Monitor to contain the outbreak until the match ends. All the while it's still RvB fighting st the same time. You could choose to fight the rival team and possibly doom everyone, or fight against the Flood and pull a win.
That sounds awesome. I sometimes wonder how bad of graphics I could put up with in a game as long as controls and gameplay were good. Lot of pretty games now but I haven't had fun like I used to in years.
@@Jimmyknapp2 halo 3 looks better than infinite
While that sounds interesting, the thing with the monitor weapon is just a cleaver way to get the monitor to look at the player.
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With a little tweaking, you could make some interesting game modes revolving around this.
RejectedShotgun becomes GeneralHedd v2, got it
I like the "How it's made" intro
I feel like I saw this video months ago but it was Generalkidd who went through the aspects of the Monitor, including being a vehicle and having a weapon.
Imagine a modded game mode where the monitors light swaps from a passive blue mode to a hostile red mode
You're never alone here.
This reminds me of the Halo 3 multiplayer (and beta) vidoc where Bungie had plans (and were scrapt) to integrate AI turrets on maps like High Ground that help the defending team defend the base from the other team.
That'd be neat
I assume this was scrapped because they couldn't make it fair
This with the modifications would make a very cool gametype for this map i'd think.
The bigass tinker bell
It would be interesting if the monitor did turn red on occasions and this is when he becomes hostile with a fully usable laser
If you sit in a lobby long enough, you *won't* be alone, because now we have the custom game browser.
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I wonder if the security cameras in The Pit function the same way, and that they, like the monitor, are trying to kill you but have a null projectile that prevents them from doing so.
Generalkidd already explained this years ago. Plus, i even knew about the monitor looking at you. It was a pain in the ass trying to hide and it just gives you away to the enemies.
This reminds me of how bungie did Nokris in Destiny 2 season arrivals. During that season there was an activity where the character Nokris would talk to you, and it turns out he was actually there, just way outside the bounds of the map.
Pre Destiny Bungies philosophy-“Did you make it work? If no turn it into a car.”
“I am not a thing. My name is Leonard Church… and you will fear my LASER FACE!”
I love seeing videos like this, cant wait for more
Imagine if like you could faintly hear the monitor saying “Command D.B system override command failed”
Imagine the missed opportunity for an episode that used this in RvB or other fan made machinimas or whatever the proper term is.
I knew about the vehicle, but not the weapon or its intent. You're right. That already creepy map just shot up 30 creep points. I always wondered if there was a secret way to break the glass and this unending horde of flood just pours in killing everyone. The thought it could happen scared me
Yeah, a few years ago, Generalkidd showed this in part of a video about hidden vehicles in Halo 3.
I knew about the monitor being a vehicle, but I didn’t know it had a weapon.
ye i already knew this bec generalkidd made a vid about it and it wasrly scary
That monitor vehicle thing would be great for machinima making.
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infection game time one human rest infected and the monitor has an overpowered beam
So that explains how they did that scene with Wash and the Director "Well Hello Agent Washington"
Whats even creepier is that the monitor is moving without anybody "driving" it.
I like these kinds of videos, they are very interesting :)
The only reason I recognized the silhouette is the fact that GenerlKidd made a video about this a while back the monitor eye vehicle thing
Ohhh, daaaaaaaaamn do I miss the HELL outta Halo 3! This really seems like a cut feature that they didn't have the time to fully develop or implement. I'd really love to hear the original idea behind this.
I love this guys voice he also. Sounds like.. Binging With Babish ;)
It wants to kill you but can't, it can only glare and think angry thoughts
I would love to see some mod that kills you upon contact with the light and play a game of flashlight tag essentially with that thing with some objective underneath.
This could be used to prevent spawn camping, like in Unreal Tournament where they put plasma turrets to defend the spawn
This seems like the beginnings of a very interesting machinima short.
This is clearly not a vehicle, but the way the devs got the monitor to look at the player. There is most likely an enemy inside of it, which is operating the monitor as a turret, which makes it turn towards players. This saves a lot of work for the devs, and makes a lot of sense when you think about it.
*Laughs in General Kidd.*
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Imagine a gamemode where one player is this big monitor and the others are attempting to kill said monitor.
The big monitor would have some manner of cannon and the player inside would be tasked with eliminating all of the attacking players, while said attackers look for power-weapons to defeat the monitor. Big fun.
Back in the day I knew there was something special about that. I tried messing with it so many times.
Generalkid or whatever his name is covered this a long time ago
Very interesting indeed !
I knew about this sense 2010 I remember reading about it on a forum and trying to glitch up to it in forge mode
I’m pretty sure I went to see this after seeing it in RvB
Same
Never knew this, blew my mind!!
That's so cool, I wish they would have left this in. It would have made the map so much more chaotic
I honestly thought it was something I’ve never seen before, but it’s something generalheed already went over a while ago lol
Scarier than the ghost of lockout? Lets hear it
The monitor can deal no damage, only glare and think angry thoughts.
Designers' mad methods are always interesting.
I learned about it from General Heed :)
Waiting for the day InfernoPlus sees this and decides to make a new cursed Warthog
The reason it fires a blank weapon at the player is because there is an AI in the vehicle, and by giving it a weapon, it can simply be given full awareness of PCs in the environment, and told to 'shoot' them. Creating a cheap method for the monitor to track the player.
2/10, want my time back.
Is that kinda what he said tho, albeit unnecessarily wordy and annoyingly
Reminds me of wheatly in the second half of portal 2
So it's basically like a security camera. That or a sentry gun if changed to fire actual projectiles
This would have been cool for a red light green light mini game to be fair
creepy fact: all forerunner monitors are partly ancient humans soul and body. Initially they remember their past life but over time their new processor and inorganic body make them lose their memories of their past life.
I just found your channel this shet is cool xD set to let me know if u make more
Huh that is a little bit creepy, but cool at the same time
@RejectedShotgun ...So what is driving it normally?
23 seconds in, im calling it, its the monitor
i think the monitor's just happy to see us :)
You should do a deathmatch with a few players with the beam enabled and see how match turns out. :P
Too bad we only get to see this giant version of a monitor here besides the Helljumper comic. Guessing the forunners make these to particularly manage facilities but at a cheaper cost due to their size possibly. Wonder if they can float besides just being stuck on the ceiling.
i knew the monitor was a vehicle that you can't drive unless you mod it but i didn't know it had a weapon
I remember this generalkidd video
Your first creepypasta. The Monitor
I feel like it's original purpose was to stop you from getting that Killamanjaro.
I'd be tempted to mod it so that it has randomised voice lines from the Fallout New Vegas: Old World Blues toaster
My guess, is that bungie gave this monitor a projectile-less weapon because the ai won't target or follow anything unless it's shooting something at someone.
If someone could make a mod that makes it only shoot a laser very rarely then you can turn this into a pretty good horror map
If 343 added this monitor in 2 variants for Halo 3 forge, That will be fun.
Someone needs to make a custom game out of the weaponized monitor
I'm not usually this easily disturbed, but this does bother me.
But, that does possibly open up a few new interesting game modes for custom games. :3
That's so cool dude.
I wish they could've made it slide along that rail track in the ceiling. It seems like that was intended. With it being a vehicle and all, do you think you could look into enabling or jury rigging that to work?