When Was ROHAN Formed & Who Was Its First KING? | The Origins of the ROHIRRIM! | Middle-Earth Lore

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  • @simoncss1
    @simoncss1 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    Theoden’s rally cry on the Pelennor Fields in Peter Jackson’s film, was among the top few favorite speeches/moments in the entire.
    “Ride now! Ride! …Ride for ruin & the world’s ending! …Forth Eorlingas!”
    That heroism never fails to make my eyes water… I’d ride to Death with the good King

    • @neilgoldsmith482
      @neilgoldsmith482 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      A sore day. A red day.

    • @CommunityFan
      @CommunityFan ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@neilgoldsmith482 it's a sword day, but yus, it's epic

    • @Brandon-a-writer
      @Brandon-a-writer ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@CommunityFan That speech is enough to make me run through a damn wall

  • @grossepointemichigan
    @grossepointemichigan ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Thank you for featuring one of my paintings, The Red Arrow, in this video. It was a nice surprise to see it!

  • @HerrRoehrich
    @HerrRoehrich ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I wish you had taken the time to elaborate on the Oath of Eorl a bit. It's not just any ol' oath, but one taken on the secret tomb of Elendil, calling Eru Illuvatar himself as witness, something that had not been done since the Last Alliance was formed thousands of years earlier, making the oath basically unbreakable. The story of Cirion Eorl in Unfinished Tales is awesome.

    • @deanzaZZR
      @deanzaZZR ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Truly an epic moment in the history of the 3rd age and lovely for a variety of reasons. I love the Eorl gives his oath first in Rohirric and then in the Common Tongue.

  • @Jayjay-qe6um
    @Jayjay-qe6um ปีที่แล้ว +15

    "And beyond the Sea of Rhun and the far fields of the South, the thunder of the cavalry of the Mark was heard, and the White Horse upon Green floated in many winds until Eomer grew old" -- pg. 438, the Appendix A of The Return of the King

  • @lordofthehouseofstormcrows8615
    @lordofthehouseofstormcrows8615 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Keep up the great work Mellon! I love Rohan! They're fierce! I love when Eomer gets rude with Aragorn and Co. Then Aragorn flashes the cold steel, and Eomer apologizes for tripping. Brohirrim for life!
    "ECTHELION!"

  • @Bearded_Elf
    @Bearded_Elf ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Have to give a slightly biased shout-out to the 3rd & longest reigning King of Rohan, Aldor the Old (reigned 75 years, died at 101 years)
    My grandfather was named Aldor so although Theodan, Eorl, and Helm are deservedly lauded I humbly submit Aldor as # 4

  • @Mobzter95
    @Mobzter95 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Okay now it makes sense when Theoden mention Eorlingas!

  • @Legionnaire_625
    @Legionnaire_625 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Eorl the Young. Well now I know where the Eorlingas come from. Anyhow, phenomenal and very informative, further justifying my love for Rohan and the Rohirrim. As for which line of kings I find the greatest........I have to say either Theoden or Eorl. Theoden due to him rallying his armies to aid Gondor in the Pelennor Fields in the War of the Ring and his resistance against Saruman's armies at Helm's Deep. Eorl for having created the Rohirrim as we know them and the alliance between them and Gondor

  • @markusfourie4466
    @markusfourie4466 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The idea of Saruman using his Power of the Voice for scamming people for $200 is hilarious.

  • @ΣπυροςΠαπαδοπουλος-λ9χ
    @ΣπυροςΠαπαδοπουλος-λ9χ ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice and informative viideo man, bravo!

  • @ivarcollison5965
    @ivarcollison5965 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The 1st must be the first. He formed the oath, the horse lords, the kingdom.
    He laid the foundations of what we read in the third age.

  • @SunnyLovetts
    @SunnyLovetts ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Epic content!!!

  • @varyar77
    @varyar77 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great video, as always.

  • @stevendepauw3742
    @stevendepauw3742 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    There is a very nice part in LOTRO where you read about the history of the pre rohirrim :)

  • @johnhill-zy5xn
    @johnhill-zy5xn ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Could we get a video about the Wild men of Dunland?

    • @TheBrokenSword
      @TheBrokenSword  ปีที่แล้ว +6

      It’s on the list! 😁

    • @bradylewis9698
      @bradylewis9698 ปีที่แล้ว

      I second this! Haven't seen many videos about them on any other channels

  • @aaronboyce6743
    @aaronboyce6743 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Look forward to Mondays and Thursday for video drops.
    Would love to see a few more lives if possible.
    My personal best videos are the what ifs.

    • @TheBrokenSword
      @TheBrokenSword  ปีที่แล้ว

      We would love to do more lives, but sadly our internet in our area has gotten so bad at the moment it’s not been possible :( hopefully it can get fixed before too long!

  • @mightymulatto3000
    @mightymulatto3000 ปีที่แล้ว

    That incogni plug was epic. This clears up a lot.

  • @marjoe32
    @marjoe32 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for the content yall never miss.

  • @annaroselarsen4218
    @annaroselarsen4218 ปีที่แล้ว

    U guys never disappoint !

  • @ianheins650
    @ianheins650 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice work dude

  • @nathaniellong4281
    @nathaniellong4281 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wasn't there a story about when Eol and his troops were moving south, there was fear that as they went past Dol Guldur, they would be attacked and destroyed? But as they moved south, a fog surrounded and moved along with them, concealing them from all possible outside observers, but they themselves could still see through the fog, and never got lost while they were in the fog, though they also knew they were surrounded by fog? As for where the fog came from, the description of it does not sound very natural, so there have been theories, like maybe Galadriel made the fog, since while passing by Dol Guldur they were also passing by Lothlorien.

  • @SunnyLovetts
    @SunnyLovetts ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Still waiting for a lore channel to cover the Old Forest 😃

  • @agentspaniel4428
    @agentspaniel4428 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Imagine combining the Anglo-Saxons with the Tartars

    • @srinjoyroychoudhury7034
      @srinjoyroychoudhury7034 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Actually it's more like Nordic, Anglo-Saxon and Sarmatian culture which actually happened in the history of Britain.

    • @ahriskof1
      @ahriskof1 ปีที่แล้ว

      You mean tatars?

    • @agentspaniel4428
      @agentspaniel4428 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ahriskof1 I heard it both ways

    • @denizen9998
      @denizen9998 ปีที่แล้ว

      Served best with cod.

  • @charlesbarnes6912
    @charlesbarnes6912 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I know this is off subject but I've always wondered this question and your followers are tops! What happens to beautiful Rivendell after all the Elves sail off?

    • @TheBrokenSword
      @TheBrokenSword  ปีที่แล้ว +4

      It is said that by the time Aragorn died it had been abandoned :(

    • @Mp-bu7zx
      @Mp-bu7zx ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@TheBrokenSword i had a pretty good monday, but after knowing this i feel kinda depressed😅

    • @mordechai-
      @mordechai- ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@TheBrokenSword No, Lothlorien was abandoned and grew dark, but Rivendell was never abandoned completely, though Elrond and other great elves left.

  • @toddfeather5760
    @toddfeather5760 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think eorl the Young is joint third with helm hammerhand as Éomer second and theoden first

  • @michaelkenny6496
    @michaelkenny6496 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Between Helm Hammerhand and Fram, i cant pick whos the cooler Rohirrim.

  • @ShagShaggio
    @ShagShaggio ปีที่แล้ว

    Azog Sent Me Here
    Cheers

  • @leonardofaber5823
    @leonardofaber5823 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    And to think that, with the union of Faramir and Éowyn, two Númenórëan bloodlines would unite

  • @sabrinadelgado8108
    @sabrinadelgado8108 ปีที่แล้ว

    10:10 you mean like… hehe… Anduril?

  • @neilgoldsmith482
    @neilgoldsmith482 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Theoden was the greatest. Helm Hammerhand is a close 2nd along with Aeol

  • @Huskytabby
    @Huskytabby ปีที่แล้ว

    What-if video idea for you to do:
    What if Gandalf never fell at the Bridge of Khazad-dum and continued with the fellowship to Lothlorien and on forward?

  • @vikingodin1986
    @vikingodin1986 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Salted pork...now its a deal

  • @comesahorseman
    @comesahorseman ปีที่แล้ว

    👍👍

  • @lordcline217
    @lordcline217 ปีที่แล้ว

    "Azog sent me "

  • @deanzaZZR
    @deanzaZZR ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "Maybe not the smartest of the bunch". BOOOO! There are many forms of wisdom. Book learning is only one example. 😉

  • @morgoth173
    @morgoth173 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Video 220

  • @ingmigueleduardo7
    @ingmigueleduardo7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Rohan is easily pointing at Scythian culture of Ukraine, which were an iron age ("third age" in Tolkien work) people and basically have all features of that glorious people from the Ukrainian steppes. When Tolkien says that Rohan (Scythians) descended from middle earth people of the north, we can presume that he was referring to real world "Eastern Hunter Gatherers" or "Sintashta culture" peoples of eastern and north of Europe, which would be the name current archeology and science identifies those ancient peoples who lived there and were ancestral to iron age (third age of Tolkien world) Scythians of Ukraine

    • @benjaminhardesty2106
      @benjaminhardesty2106 ปีที่แล้ว

      NIce! Source? Cause he NEVER mentions Scythian culture as an inspiration..... Rohan is modeled after the Anglo Saxons... Anglo Saxons with horses. Not Scythian Ukrainians

    • @ingmigueleduardo7
      @ingmigueleduardo7 ปีที่แล้ว

      But now is confirmed that anglosaxons are foreign people not related to real European races (male haplogroups R1a, R1b and female haplogroups U and its variants). Anglosaxons were a multicultural group of peoples that came or better said invade from Asia to Europe and intermarried with Europeans, so they are not from the European stock.
      Anglosaxon male haplogroup is I1 (the Viking race, so to speak, which were not Europeans as recent archaeogenetic studies have demonstrated that Vikings were a multicultural group of peoples of various ethnicities of male and female haplogroup lines mingled with north European lines, surely by force).
      Further more, anglosaxons didn't have a horse culture like Tolkien showed with Rohans in his work. In real world anglosaxons never started a horse culture because they didn't live in a steppe area like Scythians lived (Ukraine and the hungarian steppe), so they only limited to ride horses in the post iron age period (some 1.500 years ago) in a vague manner as many other cultural groups of peoples in central Europe already did in that period.
      The only comparable culture in real world we can attach with the horse ride style of living of Rohans is by sure the Scythians, which had male haplogroup R1a, and as Tolkien said, they were related in racial stock terms but not akin or belonging to the same tribe as Gondorians (who were west Europeans of haplogroup R1b in real world).
      As in the real world is, Scythians are racially related but are not the same tribe compared to west Europeans because Scythians have haplogroup R1a, meanwhile west Europeans have haplogroup R1b, both are different tribes so to speak. We can make this comparation more clear by citing real world ancient cultures of "Corded Ware peoples" (R1a) who were ancestors of Scythians, Slavs of Eastern Europe and "Bell Beaker peoples" (R1b) which were ancestors of west European celts, germans, etc. Both belong to the same European race but are different tribes because they have different haplogroups (male lines).
      We have a last but not least aspect that can confirm that Scythians comply with all the requirements in real life to be the Rohan culture in Tolkien work is their phenotype or physical characteristics: tall average people, all are blondes, blue eyes and extremely warlike as Scythians were in the past and as Ukrainians, their modern descendants, currently are in present...

    • @benjaminhardesty2106
      @benjaminhardesty2106 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ingmigueleduardo7 "Further more, anglosaxons didn't have a horse culture like Tolkien showed with Rohans in his work. In real world anglosaxons never started a horse culture because they didn't live in a steppe"
      YeAh, thats why TOLKIEN said they were Anglo Saxons BUT with horses TOLKIEN said that, not some asshole named Miguel on the internet... Thats cool that you know a lot about the Scythians... not relevant, but cool!

    • @ingmigueleduardo7
      @ingmigueleduardo7 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@benjaminhardesty2106 Anglosaxons were witch invaders of Britain. They were an evil group of parasites. If we can compare they with something in the work of Tolkien, they will better fit the Ringwraiths or Nazgul...

    • @benjaminhardesty2106
      @benjaminhardesty2106 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ingmigueleduardo7 tell me you know nothing about Tolkien, without telling me you know nothing about Tolkien… lmao

  • @baronmunchausen1180
    @baronmunchausen1180 ปีที่แล้ว

    So much ad