Tech Bros Invented Trains And It Broke Me
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I have diagnosed our entire civilization with Compulsive Efficiency Disorder. It's a side effect of the perverse incentives of capitalism. Techbros always thinking about 'How can we make it sleeker, smoother, smaller, cheaper (for us, not the poors)." which always adds up to "How can we make it dumber?".
Adam, Why Tünde?! WHHHHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY?!
If I had a dollar for every time a tech bro invented a less efficient train, I would have enough money to start my own less efficient train project
Like where's the rest of the train bruh
You didn't hear the part where they were going to integrate "blockchain technology" 😂
Every single time I've ever heard blockchain technology in industry or area of expertise in it doesn't ever belong in
You hit the nail on the head. These techbros cannot fathom sharing the same oxygen with the poors.
@@bananafoneablewhat does blockchain even mean in that context?
@@ad_astra5 Star trek techno babble at this point.
To truly anger Adam, the trains should go 550 kph on existing tracks, be fully automated, and mine bitcoin simultaneously.
brilliant!
And use Gas for fees.
Honestly autonomous trains could be very doable.
You cannot forget the full high power LED array wrap, so that the pod can look like the sphere form las vegas
A train that uses waste heat from Bitcoin mining to run it's boiler.
Honestly, "a pod carrying a few dozen people going 550 km/h that doesn't have to deal with curves, towns, or traffic" is just a plane.
At least aircraft can carry more people than this bs XD
-I'm so scared of flying in planes!
-Yeah, I get you, same with me and trains.
-What's so scary about those?
-Well can YOU imagine a flying train?
A plane has to deal with a lot of traffic of its own kind.
@@oida10000Yes, but at least it doesn't have to comply with the topology of the terrain and tracks. Also, it uses a great property of our atmosphere that is getting thinner the higher we go, instead of using an artificial vacuum near the ground.
That is a slow plane. Commercial planes cruise at over 500MPH. Though if you meant knots, that is a speedy plane at almost mach 1, in the transonic envelope. Airliners stay just below transonic as it increases drag.
So, it holds about 20 people, each one needs its own driver, and they want to use existing infrastructure. This is a bus. They want to make buses, but on rails.
A bus can hold at least 100 people so nope
@@kralexprofill4571
Not the one you ride on.
@@kralexprofill4571 that depends on bus, those white shitcans that replace proper buses have around 20 people capability
bus that can transform and ride rail is real, but not at 500kph
A worse bus, most double deckers can fit 50+
as an American I would like to refute the claim that our mass passenger train system is a joke. jokes are funny and the system is just sad
Thanks gor being honest about it. As someone living in switzerland I was shocked when I learned about the state of US public transport. I always assumed that while the US is a car country there'd at least be a decent amount of long distance trains considering how often you see them building tracks in westerns or some subways and trams in cities but the later seems to have been widely demolished and the former neglected.
@@LukasJampenIf you enjoyed having that assumption wrecked not unlike an unmonitored train, you're in luck, because there are many more ways to be surprised by disappointment ready to go
Boom!
Funny is what happens to other people
Amtrak was so bad that the state of New Jersey built their own fully functional train system running lines into Philadelphia and NYC. NJTransit is actually fairly decent because the NJ government understands the importance of having a viable train system to move people around in the densest state in the country. I’m sure by European standards it’s not great, but it is fairly reliable with ok service.
Tech bros don't want scalable rail infrastructure, they want private jets on the ground.
...So cars?
@@thatmspaintgirl Specifically Limos
@@thatmspaintgirl no no... because cars have to queue
@thatmspaintgirl specifically limos that don't have to deal with all that peasant "traffic" and "poor people" and can travel at private jet speeds
@@natanoj16 not if they are driven by AI, that has traffic awareness
I realized some time ago that essentially all these ideas can be boiled down to:
*Low latency, low bandwidth.*
In other words, "Let's invent a FASTER form of transportation, for FEWER people."
Which makes sense when you're a billionaire. Why care about the plebs?
Reminds me of the old computing adage: Never underestimate the bandwidth of a station wagon full of tapes speeding down the highway.
A 100Mbit/s network connection has a latency of tens of milliseconds going across a state. The car full of tapes might have one of ten hours going the same distance. Still going to beat the network connection if you're sending enough data. Rough estimate puts it at about 450GB if we don't count copying time at either end. If we assume it adds three hours either end, then bump the figure up to 720GB. It's very common for researchers to get their data via HDOA - hard drives on aeroplanes. It's just much faster for someone to take a multi-terabyte hard drive in carry-on luggage on an international flight than to send 10TB of data over the Internet.
Tech-bros are people who like technology but haven't learned this lesson.
The crossover I didn't know I needed!
@@Roxor128 I worked at a company that analysed Yahoo's logs back last century. They would send us a hard drive every day....
Yup, they don't care about moving lots of people quickly and efficiently, they care about being able to get where they're going faster so all of their solutions are high-speed low-capacity.
I just invented a new future way of transportation while reading your comment that is both low latency and high bandwith.
You know how there are moving sidewalks on the airports. How about we make those go 500kmh!! I know. I know. It is a brilliant idea but i won't patent it so that techbro startups can figure out the details.
I love how quickly the trains accelerate and decelerate in the animations, like they can somehow circumvent physics and not have passengers flung around if they actually accelerate that fast.
Well, you won't have unhappy passengers if they're all turned into a paste by the end of the ride.
Clearly the interior is filled with a quick solidifying foam on departure so the passengers will be safely preserved.
@@MystMagus that will be expensive af for poor folk
just design the seats like a rollercoaster
casually pulling 20gs in a train sounds fun
Good luck going 550 km/h on Polish tracks. The first turn will make that thing into a fucking projectile. A railgun, if you will.
Now I'm seeing every time a train derails as a failed railgun.
Damn it will take weeks to get that picture out of my brain!
If its only for 20 people they can equip them with ejection seats in case it gets airborne after a sharp turn?
do this on the us west coast and your projectile will crash in the water
Someone should write a HFY story about defeating the alien invasion with railguns that are just derailed tech bro train pods
The worst part about this, is that there is a company in Japan that has tried to make maglev actually work for commuter trains, and while it has a functional prototype capable of 500+km/h, it has been in development for decades, is billions over budget, and is only planned between 3 of most populated cities in the country, one of which being Tokyo, the currently single most populated city on the planet.
They want to do all that in a fraction of the time, for a fraction of the cost, without dedicated rail, and cram in AI. It is a fucking grift and should be treated as such.
@@michamatczak2134 ???
@@michamatczak2134 yeah Tokyo is mount ebott from undertale
@@toonymoony16 It's a metropolitan area, but if you count those, then Guangzhou is "the biggest populated city on the planet".
@@michamatczak2134 Tokyo is a city. As is Shibuja, Shinjuku, Akihabara und so on. The 21 wards of Tokyo metropolitan area.
@@michamatczak2134 That's like saying New York isn't a city because a state.
soon they will blame "harsh EU regulations" for their idea not being treated seriously
Harsh EU realities, more like.
"Did you know there's 400 million people here that need moving?!"
"What do you mean, there's towns around the train tracks?!"
@@MrHodoAstartes I'll do you one better
"What do you mean you found Roman ruins while excavating the field for the extra track?"
Decels in the commission just don't get what everybody having to buy new windows would do for GDP!
@@Daniel-yy3ty if someone put them in the ground, they can't be that important.
And that's my defence for copper -theft- urban mining.
Let them. That is when you look at them and ignore them.
All animals lead to crab. All transport leads to trains.
there's nothing on land as powerful as a train
that is SO TRUE
Carcinogation is highly overblown, it has only been observed in different species of lobster
Trainigation on the other hand is totally real. You can't get more efficient than coupling cars together on dedicated low-friction rails
@@TheRoboKittyi will evolve into a crab to prove you wrong
@@awildhampter8570 i will too!
"How do you solve the problem of not having enough drivers?"
Tech bros, in the corner, starting to vibrate with excitement, frothing at the mouth with their hands raised: "AI!"
While I see self-driving trains happen before self-driving cars, we're still a long time away from either.
can we get a self driving bicycle, please? Or self driving shopping cart? Or maybe a baby stroller.
@@omikron6218Lmao. Nice pfp btw, made me chuckle.
@@HappyBeezerStudios Trains, yes. But some metros are already fully self driving. With trains you still have a bunch of variables that aren't there in metro systems. E.g. Trees on the tracks, someone on the rails, etc... The metro in Copenhagen, Denmark, for example doesn't have a driver. It's really interesting to see
too bad tech bro's got nothing to do with economics.
there have been self-driving metros for decades now.
so why have they not spread further out if this is such a great and amazing solution?
the answer is cost-effectiveness. it's cheaper to hire train drivers than develop, equip and maintain what is needed for fully autonomous trains.
not to mention the massive scale doing this nation if not even continentwide, the safety reassurance for passengers (surveys show the majority of humans prefer a human in control of trains going 300 kmph) as well as "what happens if something happens in the middle of nowhere with 1000's of humans if no staff is around able to somehow get the train running again if the tech fails? which. admittedly, it fails a whole lot of times, seeing how in the name of capitalism we cheap out wherever we can. lol. i daresay capitalism is its own enemy in matters of automation and ai and tech bros lol)
This is why every engineer and scientist I’ve spoken to hates techbros: they want to claim membership in the scientific community but they’re incapable of even doing so much as a literature review
If they had that much patience, they wouldn't have become CXOs.
Tech Bros are what an Idea Guy grows up into if he doesn’t stop sniffing his own farts
@@SONICKING700 Lol, Tech bros are literally the "snake oil" of oversatured doses of normies and geeks, but just less knowledgeable of physics and mathematics. Mostly, just an average redditor.
Reading is not for tech bros
what about Chief Scientists Like Ilya Susktever and Geoffrey Hinton? They are famous scientists and “tech bros”
"At our company, we heard people avoid reinventing the wheel, and we asked why? That's where we decided to take that risk, to dare to dream, to create a future where every wheel is not just reinvented, but reimagined with premium, bespoke materials. We didn't stop there; we added unnecessary features and quadrupled the price. Because why settle for ordinary when you can have extravagantly pointless?" - An idiot with too much money
For a moment, I thought that was an actual quote from Cave Johnson in the game Portal 2.
An actual quote: "They say great science is built on the shoulders of giants. Not here. At Aperture, we do all our science from scratch. No hand holding."
And the new wheel is triangular
@@rcevey2 its an actual quote from @berenedain8427
@@rcevey2 For a moment I thought this was writed like Senator Amstrong Monologue.
@@rcevey2 to be equated to the legendary Cave Johnson? I'm honoured, he always has such inspiring quotes:
"Science isn't about WHY. It's about WHY NOT. Why is so much of our science dangerous? Why not marry safe science if you love it so much. In fact, why not invent a special safety door that won't hit you on the butt on the way out, because you are fired."
"That's not a rail service, that's a traveling exhibition" bruh, that was brutal lmao
Thing: *exists*
Tech bro: what if I made that thing worse and paid myself a huge fucking salary to do it?
AI
Tech Bro to investors: I’m going to use your money to keep costs down so consumers think all this fancy tech is keeping stuff cheap, kill the market for our competitors and gain a monopoly over the industry, then we 4x the original market price to pay you back.
Consumers: How much for an Uber and AirB&B??? How do you find taxis and hotels again?
... while it excludes poor people, at the same time...!!!
And make it a pod of some sort.
Why are Techbros so averse to making things scalable and mass-transit suitable? Is it blatant ignorance of the actual requirements of modern day public transport? Or is it arrogance and a dislike for the lower classes?
Less efficient=more pods=more units=more money. It's all about money.
Yes
*Yes.*
Small sleek pods look better in renders to rich investors so they get more money
Yes.
In 2077, Tech Bros will discover this incredible innovation called the Ox and Cart.
And in 4305, they'll discover the Hammer and Chisel!
Imagine you could buy groceries, cover them in dirt and they will grow under sunlight and produce more of their kind, which in turn can be also covered in dirt... It is an infinite food glitch. We will solve world hunger by expanding this tech in rural Africa!
Cartpunk 2077
It's Bio-Robotics! Nature-inspired transportation!
It's a novel and innovative idea.
The ox is fueled entirely by biodegradable and sustainable materials, and it has intelligent steering and driving capabilities, so no worries about it not working on anything but the rockiest of roads.
The cart is made from renewable materials, with a modular "Plank" design, which means all parts are easily interchangeable, and easy to repair. For the discerning client who worries about splinters or the axle failing, there will be a subscription service to repair any damage on travels with ease. Only £300 per month.
This has always been my complaint with people talking about automatic cars.
"Imagine how nice it would be to sit back and relax in your own private space and read a book on your way to work!"
Yeah... literally a train dude. Literally a train.
What car dependency does to a society
to be honest in a car it can be just you and only you
in a train you still need to be mindful of the people around you
@@pancakedev6 It turns out we live in a society and we must come face to face with other human beings if we want something that works well for society.
@@pancakedev6 Well then there is Uber. or a taxi. Or first class/second class train or plane
1. Privacy
2.last mile connectivity
How tf is it the same?!
Anyone who ever travelled by public transit knows the terrible feeling when you wait at a crowded stop and instead of a long vehicle a short one arrives.
I was once on a two car train that was normally a full four car. Not hard to imagine what an awful journey it was.
and it's the first one after a 12 hours strike
usually a Pacer
Yeah hate that. You’re standing there waiting looking around and see 50-60 people standing on the ledge waiting and then just two carts arrive you hear the growing of every person on that ledge. You hope that many of the people waiting are actually waiting for another train. And then you have to guess where the damn train is going to break and rush there to even get in.
That shit happened so many times when I took the train to school.
I hated it that’s why later I switched to driving per car cause it was faster more reliable and less stressful.
@@Manie230 been there. And then you have to tell people to move over, not sit on the stairs and fuck first class if theres nobody inside and its the only way to get everybody aboard.
The biggest joke here is that they propose modifying entire rail lines while being from Poland
where famously 10 years after purchase of Pendolino trains there still isn't a single fragment of track allowing them to go at their design speed
Czech Railways bought 7 Pendolino trains with a top speed of 230 kph, certified them for only 200 kph because there was no hope of them running faster and (a nice coincidence) on this exact day our rail operator has started 200 kph on a new section of track testing with one of the Pendolinos to see if it can go into regular service. First trainset was delivered in 2003 and regular operation of Czech Pendolinos started in 2005...
@@pavelsovicka5292 in Poland they have top speed of 250 kph and are that's what they're certified for but so far there's only one small section that allows them to go 200 kph, anywhere else they go maximum of 160,. They are running since 2014, purchased in 2011 and at first they wanted to buy ones in '97
I'm not sure this is entirely true, but still the purchase of Pendolino was such as stupid, image driven decision. Many of Polish major cities aren't services by Pendolino, because for example the newly renovated train station doesn't have the right platforms to be able to receive the Pendolino, thus this city is skipped from the schedule. The other fantastic decision was to renew the Berlin-Warsaw line for the Euro 2012, which took 2-4 years of delays, substitute buses etc. They finished the renovation and just 2 years later realised: wait! we haven't adjusted this line for the Pendolino! It can't drive here at full speed, nor can it fit on the platforms of the cities it would be going through (Poznan, the city halfway between Warsaw and Berlin would be a great example as it took 10 years since the purchase of Pendolino to add it to the net) even though having the high speed rail connection to the capital of the neighbouring country that is also our biggest economical partner should be a no brainer. So they renewed the freshly renewed Berlin-Warsaw line again
At least it can tilt
@@pavelsovicka5292 There are multiple sections of tracks in Czech allowing that speed construction wise (F.e. Brno-Breclav - track 251 and 252) but not legal-wise. Some trains do travel at over-speed-limit there, it is based on-request and all crossings have to be closed (removing remaining 2 with level crossing is extremely challenging because of nimby).
The ones where it is also legally possible are circular test tracks.
Of course we're still far behind French who had 574kph TGV running almost 2 decades back on their standard high-speed track. It, though, was locked down for test as single train required a lot of power and it had bigger wheels - both changes are possible to do within much smaller budget than these dumb solutions like hyperloop or mag-train (you still need those tracks though - expensive, but definitely possible and investment will pay back when trains are preferred over cars (which means significantly cheaper and faster ... sadly they're neither in Czech)).
A person from the Czech Republic here. My father drives trains. Just so you know, we are trying to get better at not crashing stuff (its a sort of a recent epidemic, we didnt do that very often a few years back). The crash you shown was caused by the installation of the ETCS - not becasue it would be bad or anything, but because some clown decided that during a reconstruction of part of the track we would uninstall MIREL (our control system), let the track run for about half a year without anything and then as the reconstruction would finish wed turn on the ETCS on that track. And then the RegioJet driver decided to ignore a stop signal, so here we are. Yay.
didn't you also buy trains that are locked down on a software-level to be basically un-maintainable?
i think CCC did a jailbreak of one of your trains so you would be able to repair it?
or something?
Besides that, i like the czech train services. good price, nice trains (but i'm rarely in CR)
@@derda1304 No, that was NEWAG in Poland.
Classic Regiojet being a shitty, poorly managed mess of a company.
@@arianberndt1889 sorry, you all look the same to me 🤣
(sorry)
@arianberndt1889 do they have anything to do with Pesa? We got Pesa Links running on some local networks here in Brandenburg, and these things cause so many damn problems.....
It's really hilarious how the train seems to be the crab in the world of transportation
"Sir, we've got results from the AI we dedicated to designing a new, efficient method of transporting massive amounts of cargo and people across destinatjons..."
"Alright, let me see... multiple containers, all connected to and moved by a center piece with an engine over dedicated infrasttructure...wha- that's just a train! Run the similation again"
Ah yes, trainification
In the animal world, everything turns to crab, in the transportation world, everything turns to train.
you forget that the pod is clearly built with a pointy bit on the end, so when you go 550 and slam into the passenger train in front of you you will simply tunnel through it, only killing their pedestrians instead of yours. it's like when they advertised the cybertruck as the car that will kill the other car's passengers in a crash instead of yours
Just put rails on the pod. Then when it slams into a passenger train, the passenger train will just catch the pod's rails and will go up and over while the pod speeds on under it. With a sloped back the passenger train will be set back down automatically onto the tracks and alls good.
Which is funny because the Cybertruck lacks a proper crumple zone to absorb crash impacts. So likely your Cybertruck will survive with hardly a scratch and your skull will be smashed into pieces.
@@jasonslade6259 but the Kia Picanto I slammed into has more repairs needed so even if I have no skull that's a strategic Tesla victory
@@wyn9693 Besides, if you're a Cybertruck user, you don't have anything important inside the skull anyway.
yeah i don't trust the cybertruck further than i can throw it
I am not an engineer but I was a safety investigator for a long time. The first thing I thought of was Santiago de Compostela. That is an extremely deadly derailment caused by a conductor taking a 50 km/h corner at something like 120 km/h. You can't just slap high-speed cars on a track made for a completely different speed. They just flip.
I don't think anyone was suggesting the train MUST travel at 550km/h the entire time, presumably it too can slow down for corners.
On top of that trains take a long ass time to stop. I work in a rail yard and even carrying a few cars loaded to bear can make you slide for quite a few feet while only going 5 mph/ 8 kph. A car loaded to bear going 500 KPH? You’d be lucky if it stops within 3 miles of where they hit the brakes.
No, you don't understand! Our sophiaticated physical models clearly show that if we completely remove air resistance and raise one rail by 30° while the train is moving on it, we can reach the speed of 5500 Mach 10s or something I think. Wait, there's an extra zero here. I'll get back to you, I need to call my physician friend who has a degree in _physical education_ btw, but you're welcome to crowdfund us now!
@@shiuido359then what's the fucking point
@@shiuido359 and for passing other trains, developments, crossings, trees...
"We should make it go 550kph!"
"Cool. if you care to look out the window, we have this thing called geography. It disagrees."
I am imagining a train that flew off the ground, stops in mid-air, looks down, and then holds a picket sign saying "gulp" before plummeting directly down.
@MagnumCarta that's something Drake would do
@@MagnumCartaadd "controlled landing" and you have, believe it or not, an airplane
at that point it will just take off like a bullet (hmmmm railgun)
550 kph would make anyone just... die from cringe because HOW DO YOU TURN, HOW DO YOU GO THROUGH MOUNTAINS, ANYTHING REALLY
and there's some other obstacle too: Humans and... ANIMALS. Imagine Bambi switching sides and not realizing it's soon getting obliterated by a 550 mph vehicle. while Bambies non disintegrated pieces fly like shrapnells through the place. Lovely.
I swear to god, the only reason that these tech bros keep reinventing trains is because they viscerally hate the idea that they'd have the POTENTIAL to need to share a vehicle with someone who's poor. It's why they keep advocating for pods even though they logistically make zero sense.
This is pretty much it
bingo.
yep, similar thought. It's this deeply-baked-in entitlement to have your own private space, all the time, always able to wall off those aspects of the world you don't want to be reminded of. The height of unexamined privilege.
We live in a society....
Literally the last video I watched before this one was about German locomotive prototypes, wins and failures. One of the failures was a "luxury" train that had to be cancelled after just a few years of trying to make a profit, it never had more than 20% of the passengers it could have had. They called it the "Metropolitan".
This is like that, but worse in every aspect.
I checked out their website and I think the fact that their “team” consists entirely of managers and advisors but there’s 0 engineers responsible for the actual design of this thing named anywhere explains the braindeadness of this project. This is classic “let’s make a startup to suck out grant money from EU” type of thing.
Indeed
Sounds like a crypto scam
That is actually pretty much the business model of these sort of companies. They never intend to actually build or sell a train. They have no idea how trains work or how to build one. But luckily for them, neither do investors or railroad executives. They are not pitching their idea to engineers, logisticians or train drivers. They are pitching to rich investors, politicians and top-level managers who are far removed from the daily reality of the company they lead. All you need for that is an idea that seems really innovative at first glance, some fancy graphics and a ton of buzzwords and concepts that appeal to executives and investors.
It like starring a school without teachers or a an idol team without people who have any ability to sing or dance defeats the point
@@jodofe4879 thats overall the problem with companies, especially companies funded by the government. The people making the decisions arent the people that know whats going on, or what the product does exactly. The german train company is famous for having their higher ups giving themselves bonusses of several millions, despite worsening the train system and doing nothing to improve it^^
> Maglev on normal track
> Maglev encounters typical railway turn
> maglev wipes village of the map
> Refuses to elaborate further
It's a railgun!
> Build a straighter maglev track on the destroyed village
They're in it for the long term investment.
There are many reasons why maglev was a complete and utter failure, despite the tech being really snazzy. This is one of them. Then there's the need for a lot of electromagnets, a LOT, although they're not made from copper as Adam said, they are made from aluminium. And there's a reason the Transrapid test track in Northern Germany is made of concrete and put on pillars. Then there are turns and switches, which are both quite hard to do with maglev, and I don't know how this system would even keep the train on the track if it doesn't have the magnets on both sides of the Transrapid (and other maglev trains) actually have.
Ultimately, the failure of the Transrapid was that you had to build a whole new network of rails, separate from the existing one. That's why the ICE won that competition, despite being both a bit slower and a bit more power-hungry. However, there are a few pure ICE tracks, and the ICE really reaches quite high speed there (300km/h is what I myself have seen), but it's as said here, its problems are that it shares infrastructure with much slower trains and collects their delays, making them equally late.
But village go boom in fun way! BADA-BOOM!
Swiss here. Great video! As far as I know, most of our trains COULD drive faster, but they limit max speeds everywhere except when you're far away from any cities or villages. And it's not because the tracks couldn't handle it, it's because the tracks are rarely completely walled in, so it's possible for branches, animals, and especially people, to get on the tracks. Trains don't plan on just plowing through whatever gets in their way, they actually want a chance to slow down / brake if necessary. I know some train conductor and they are getting training for specific tracks / areas in the sense of "Watch out in this specific bend / crossing, there's a high chance for cows on the tracks there" and so on.
Not too long ago we further limited the top speed in cities since there were too many instances of suicide by train. Lower top speeds in densely populated areas gives the conducters a bigger window to break in these events.
(PS: I really appreciate the usage of the Starcraft 1, Sims 2 and AoE 1 soundtracks.)
One small addition: In Germany, a train doesn't count as delayed if it gets cancelled. In addition to that, trains that are already late are much more likely to get cancelled. Some even speculate that the DB intentionally cancels the ones that are 40+ minutes late to trick the statistic.
As I said in another comment, I don't know why we just learned to accept that since I'd say punctuality is a big thing here usually.
Same in italy. Cancelled train doesn't count as delayed and 40+ minutes train are probably gonna be cancelled anyway so give up on the idea and hope for a next one. if there is a next one. Tbh, I'm always surprised to listen that italy's train network gets so acclaimed or put neck and neck with the japanese's one. I know we've really good trains, really good tracks and decent coverage for major cities (there are really big differencies in coverage/quality between north and south italy) but does it really matter when the service itself fucking sucks?
that sounds excatly like the sort of descision an AI would make.
@@ExActa I mean what are you going to do? They have effectively no competition, no incentive to change and there's no feasible coalition of Parties that unilaterally cares about Public Transport. Or well, the Ampel would have been if Lindner gave a single fuck about the economy.
@@marzipancutter8144 I don't think they can really change much about what previous governments did to it because if anyone tried to take power away from them at this point, I doubt they would go silently into that good night.
All those "techbros invented trains but worse" made me remeber a story about a guy who made an AI, tought it about the problems with modern transport, and tasked it with solving them... What came out, was a train
Is that real. Because that's hilarious.
Who was it?
Well? Where did you read the story?
No matter what he did, it kept making trains. There was nothing in the database, but the ai invented trains anyway. He lobotomized it, trying to prevent trains. More trains.
Trains are kinda like crabs, not that I think about it. The ultimate form.
@@timothystamm3200 All I could dig up is something that looks more like a joke than a real article. I looked up "ai invents train twitter", and found "Our 100000-core machine learning cluster has spent 2.5 million CPU years looking for innovative solutions to highway congestion AI: trains NO" from qntm.
Fun fact: the Frecciarossa high speed trains are already capable of reaching a potential 400 km/h, but engineers keep them capped at 300-ish out of concern for infrastructure wear-and-tear... as well as possibly sucking up gravel from underneath the rails.
But trains require a nutritious diet of daily gravel though. How are they supposed to get their daily macros? :(
I also believe some japanese maglevs run slower than their max speed., because of the energy usage, just isn't practical to run them that fast.
The funniest part is that the world record on conventional track is 574 km/h (2008 TGV)
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Trains in China are the same. The cost of maintenance becomes too much after a certain speed.
Every time I'm able to take a train I feel like I've entered some utopia where I'm not tied to a horrible, stressful, polluting car. American moment lol
Literally, the reason why, living in a city where there are trolleybuses, trams, buses, metro, and all this is available for a reasonable monthly subscription, I don't even want to bother getting a license and car, searching parking lot, service it etc. I sure want car, but as a some sort of luxury. To go to nature, for example, or just to get pleasant emotions from a slow trip on a sunny weekend along the embankment
They want to reinvent the wheel, while at the same time holding great ignorance and contempt for the wheel.
They want to hoard the wheel for themselves
Yeah people take 'reinvent the wheel' as a trivial thing, but it's not. The hard part isn't making a wheel, it's attaching it to a rotating axel with some kind of low friction bearing. First we're leather tubes full of animal fat.
@@Metaljacket420 In fact "Reinvating the wheel" is not supposed to be taken positive.
@@TheWampamUnless you're NASA working on a moon buggy.
However they build a friction-less wheel filled with high explosive, it moves so fast on the spot and then violently explodes.
I've got an idea: the Hypercatapult, launching pods hundreds of kms away at high speed. Low energy, low infrastructure, no driver.
And high risk of death which will help with overpopulation
repurpose the spin launch salvage
Perfect for warfare too!
As long as it is only for billionaires.
@@Carewolf Can we extend it to cryptobros too
My wife works as a specialist in the maintenance department for Polish Railways dealing with power supply. Cable theft is constant. They have to close bits of track literally every other week because a bunch of bums and hobos are stealing copper wiring and bits of catenary.
Just run high-voltage through the cables and they will protect themselves.
Well its poland
@@bmw_fantopdrives5501 That happens in Germany as well.
@@nickkohlmann I know. But we Always Joke about Polish People stealing everything
And did she not notice we already have a train the exact size of the pods leaving every major city every 5-10min for the last 10 years? They are often the sole users of their tracks. You can Google Koleje Dolnośląskie for example.
"You'll very soon run into another problem..."
Me: Traffic?
*shows Deutche Bahn train*
Me: Dear god.. it's the Deutche Bahn
I just love how the CGI render shows the "train" decelerating at like 10G into the station… because physics!
Not too bad! For fighter pilots. Normal people? Off-the shelf brake pads? Not so much.
Physics, It's the Law!
Tech bros treat the laws of physics like something you can innovate around
splattering ur clientele over the inner walls of your not-train has to be bad for business
@@acceptablecasualty5319 They'd use the maglev for deceleration. And that's such a great way to spend all that energy.
As a polish person - our rails are NOT suited for anything high-speed.
As a Dutch person - our country is too small to benefit from anything high-speed.
Warszawa Gdańsk w pendolino to średnio 180km/h, 250km/h max.
I am from Florida and I just like trains I want the train to be slow so I can record it
@@DominikPlaylists Warszawa-Gdańsk to 130km/h średnio i 200km/h max. Nigdzie w Polsce pociągi nie przekraczają 200km/h,
As a German person i like my trains spot on 10 minutes late on time as per usual.
As an American fan of trains, your frequent insulting of my trains hurt my feelings deeply. To comfort myself, I had to take my Ford F150 for a ride and run it through a local schoolyard. They yelled "Call the cops!" but I laughed, kicked my feet and giggled knowing this is America so the cops wouldn't show up for another 3-4 business days. Then, I got a burger, went home and watched football (the real kind) while snuggling with my AR-15, knowing it would keep me safe from any other maniac trying to insult my country's public transportation.
God Bless America, nerds
Lol thanks for this.
Thank you for your service!
Damn that made me laugh
Your police turn up in 3-4 business days? In the UK it's now about 7. Based on my last experience anyway....
Pfp checks out.
That said, it's almost certainly an AI image rather than a photo. Also, the username is random characters and the channel's about section is in binary so that's.. weird to say the least
160km is REGULAR SPEED???????????
I’m crying right now. Trains in America really don’t top 70mph.
As a Slovak I can confirm that anything faster than 30kph would destroy our nation completely
I've had once the pleasure to talk with one engineering team head in Nevomo... their big selling point is that they can retrofit tracks on which conventional trains can run. I asked him how they were going to keep the regular railway systems (such as eurobalises, SHP magnets - Polish safety system, signal posts, etc.), while also putting some more stuff on top of the track (the levitation magnets). He reluctantly admitted that the "old stuff would have to be removed" and that it was "impossible" to have both conventional and maglev trains running AT THE SAME TIME.
This is something that they COMPLETELY omit in their materials. Yes, they can retrofit the tracks and they imply old trains can still run there, but they never clearly say "oh and btw your line now can only run maglev trains, byyyeee"
This such a load of bullshit... all designed to trick the decision makers. UGH.
To be honest the tech itself looks cool and I can actually see a real world scenario where it could probably work. But...
First of all the pod is just a bullshit, It's easy to render and cool to show, but the test looks like it can just be an undercarriage that can be mounted on "normal" high speed train.
Modifying low speed system tracks is impossible, but modifying High speed tracks could actually be viable.
The problem is does it have any advantage over existing high speed rail. My guess is it doesn't and that's why they went for cool-factor bullshit solution instead.
_they have an engineering team?_
@@rafeesamith they do, and the people there are pretty smart, this is honestly some cool tech. The problem is that the product that they want to sell is utter bullshit.
@@ostrzycielnozyczek587so is cool or bulshit? I am confused
So they already know that they would have to use their own, separate rail network to make their thing run.
I am NOT an expert on railroads. That said, the *_"...on existing track..."_* bit IMMEDIATELY gave me a 🚩.
You're right. However, "we'll build new tracks" sounds even worse... :)
i heard polish there, so i can inform you, that image of Budapest railroads is exactly what we have, trains are constantly late because of bad infrastructure... tech bros never went aboard a real train in country they live in
from my experience, i can tell you, train going from Warsaw to Biała Podlaska or Brest will not exceed 160km/h, it's all elevated rails on gravel, with concrete when it has crossing for cars
@@SolariusScorch>>> It is PUTTING UP THE CASH to _"build new tracks"_ that is the problem.
@@Allan_aka_RocKITEman Not only that, it also occupies a lot of space where people live, not to mention environmental issues etc. But yeah, that's a big problem as well.
See Starsector image
I see that you're a man of culture, Adam. Truly a space cargo fleet experience
i was hoping someone else would notice it!!
Techbro detailed walkthrough
-Find thing that is perfectly find and serves its purpose
-Make it completely inefficient
-Make it a pod or make it have symmetrical edges whatever is your poison
-Slap LEDs on it
-Slap a "smart" AI on it
-Present it as a revolutionary new tech via cheap CGI presentation
-Rinse and repeat until some dumb billionaire invest or a dictator finds it
when all else fails, pitch it to saudi arabia or the emirates
There is a principal here, much like carcinization, where any tech bro invention left to evolve for a long enough period will take on train like characteristics
It’s like the final evolutionary form being crab.
@@veronicamaine3813 yes, that's what "carcinization" is
what should the name for it be? trainsition?
The difference is crabs are cool, useful, and perfectly adapted to their environment.
Yo thanks for the new vocab word what an interesting concept
Instead of a faster train, i just want my town to have a normal rail connection so I could actually use the train system, and not drive 60km to the nearest station before I can hop on a train
We have a perfectly fine rail connection here but it's only serviced by an antique museum train that only drives on weekends and costs three times as much. But at least you can buy and drink beer in it 🙃
@@marzipancutter8144 sounds nice for a weekend
@@followerofteaandspice1815 It really is, and it makes for great field trips.
I still would like something for daily commute though, and lately there has been a bipartisan push by our local government to putting those rails to more use.
Let‘s see what comes of it.
I almost chuckled when I saw the idea of running these "on existing infrastructure" - setting aside all the efficiency issues, the authors of this idea failed to realize that the trains aren't "slow" due to problems with accelerating them to higher speeds but due to how smooth and straight a track you need to go faster.
It's like looking at cars, figuring that in most places they tend to drive 30-90 km/h, very rarely crossing 200 km/h - and thinking you can revolutionalize road transport by building a car capable of accelerating to over 500km/h.
Techbros can't conceive of something being a political problem rather than a technological one. In the US in particular where passenger train services suck, they think there must be a deficiency in technological terms.
You're giving them too much credit. Even if they were politically naive and purely focused on tech based solutions, you'd see pretty quickly that the tech solutions are truly just 'good maintenance practices and the money to pay for it'
Techbros can't see that a socioeconomic problem cannot be solved with a technological solution, never mind the politics.
Hey, we'll put a Hyperloop/Maglev between Calgary and Edmonton and charge people $5000 to ride it. Or we could put a more conventional HS rail line between the two cities with a stop in Red Deer, where the total travel time will be about 45minutes more and we can charge people $50 to ride it. Gee! I wonder which is more likely to be successful?
Techbros aren't interested in solving problems. They're trying to convince rich idiots to hand over stacks of cash.
@@Daemonworks This. They're salesmen more than they are serious engineers.
Like trying to fix a broken wall with a hammer rather than replacing studs, fresh dry walling, etc.
There is this old joke: Swiss and German railways wanted to save costs and joined forces to buy platform signs. It's German for both, right? So they got together and discussed the idea for six months and finally concluded it wasn't feasible. Switzerland needed signs saying "On time" (98%), "One minute late" (1.9%), "Two minutes late" (0.09%), "Three minutes late" (0.01%), "Please hurry if you want to catch the connection" (just in case). Germany needed: "One hour late", "Two hours late", "Canceled" and "Train station out of service". They even double checked and confirmed that they would never need the "On time" sign.
Ok but this is NO joke: In the early 00's our Swedish railway system decided to use 15 min cutoff to declare a train as late. In the 90's the stats were so embarrassing they had to take drastic measures, and this is what they did. For real.
Maybe they have changed it back to 5 mins, but I don't take the train anymore (hated the delays) and going by car is cheaper now anyways.
The German numbers are even worse than the chart suggests. When DB fully cancels the train, it's not added to their delay statistics. It can't be late if it never ran in the first place!
It should be mentioned that every train with a delay of >1 hour officially counts as canceled, which of course pushes down official delay numbers.
If you're driving on the main axis (roughly Stuttgart - Mannheim - Frankfurt - Bonn - Cologne - Düsseldorf - Hannover - Berlin/Hamburg) then you simply have to expect BIG problems every single time. 3 hours delay? Having to take a replacement train? Broken doors? Broken toilets? Trains taking the wrong turn... it happens all.
The main reason right now is a lack of tracks and switches or lack of proper maintenance for those, as dumb as it sounds.
It'll take at least 10 years if DB gets everything it needs and everything works out as planned, to get the railways back to a "normal" state (No train tracks in serious disrepeair)
It's so weird that french trains put the Germans to shame
@@murphy7801 the problem is not the rains itself but the whole railway system which was severly underfunded for over a decade now, and it does not seem like it is going to change. Privatizing the railway system was the worst thing germany could have done with it
@@murphy7801 Well, the idea to use separate tracks for HSR is just awesome.
I thoroughly enjoyed trains in Benelux countries and France.
as someone who lives in just about the worst part of england for train delays, my literal first thought when you said that it went on existing tracks was "what about all the other trains that are in the way?"
Trains are vastly easier to automate than cars. The fact it's still a hard problem with trains just shows how ridiculous self-driving car concepts are.
There's a lot of functioning autonomous rail systems though, many are decades old.
I would argue do to the constraints of trains, automating cars is easier, and automating cars have gotten really good. Check out a video of Tesla self drive, as it’s getting amazing
@@magicboxhead9448 Cars have so many uncontrolled variables to account for. There's so many edge cases. The constraints of trains mean fewer things that need to be accounted for. The automation of trains is also in the infrastructure itself, built for the automation systems, whereas cars have infrastructure built for human drivers and self-driving has to try to interpret those signals which will never be as reliable.
Train automation is easy in a single loop which is why you often see it at airports. It's harder on multi branching networks but not impossible.
you have a train, which can only drive on tracks and more or less only have to accelerate, break, open and close doors. maybe i am wrong but navigating like changing tracks is not done by the driver himself as far as i understand it. also many parts like crossings are already automated. also in general on tracks are only trains, no people or bikes.
soooop... with all that in mind, how can one assume its easier to automate a car which can drive on road and off road, which have to park in and out, keep an eye on everyone on the whole street. you have special cases like ambulances and police where you not only have to stop, but maybe make way for them. also there are many many more cars on the streets than there are trains on the track. i really cannot follow your arguments...
the funny thing about 550 kph is that... the French TGV, going on regular rails, has reached a record speed 574.8 kph on a test track, so their technology of the future is slower than existing trains which already work and shuttle people all over Western Europe
the funniest thing is that the only thing preventing the TGV from going at such speeds on a regular basis is not the track, but the overhead lines who have to be extra tense for wave reasons I won't go into here
Please go into them, i will read it
Tell us the resons, @michka841
@@Hungary_0987 noise, safety, and energy is mainly what's stopping them
Also, they achieved 500-ish km/h in the 90s so it's been possible for at least 25 years.
As for the wave thing, if I had to guess it's because the tension from the pantograph going through and contacting the OHLE at such high speed will cause the wires to oscillate dangerously close to the pantograph at amplitudes dangerous enough that it may get snapped/entangled on it, which is why they had to increase the tension in the wires so that it has less room to oscillate, did I get that right?
TGV was specially modified and had the French open the energy current much higher than normal to get to that speed.
"Nevomo, a Polish deep-tech startup"
As a Polish person, we do not accept them as our own
Nevomo, brought to you by the mzastermind behind the 365 Dni series :D
They thing Polish history don't have enough disasters.
3:04
> "Trains are highly efficient"
> *Shows a clip of NJ Transit*
(Yes I know that NJ Transit is far better than what most of the US has but that's sort of like eating a hot dog off the ground when you're starving and calling it good food)
Pods ✅
Tech Bro ✅
AI ✅
Mags ✅
Mining Bitcoins❌
I was so close to a bingo 😭
dont worry, we can use the friction from the wheels and harness that energy to run a bitcoin mining rig in the front of every pod! thats how we will limit the cost per ticket to only $400 instead of $500!
@@TheUniversialTurtle I think you missed a decimal place, let's be honest, if implemented it would somehow cost a minimum of 4000 dollars, and only go up from there as problems and design flaws pile up
Nono, AI is the new bitcoin or NFT tech. Shoving AI into everything apparently makes everything 500% better...just because it's AI bro.
How does it work and why? "Fuck knows, it's AI. AI is the future..." ~ Tech bro
There is no solar panel either😢
Yeah, install a Bitcoin mining rig in it and have it powered by the dynamic brake. So every time that thing brakes, it will mine Bitcoin in the process. That's innovation.
This is progress, we've gone from hyper loop to car tunnels to updating existing infastructure. Give tech bros another few years and they'll just want normal trains with curved edges.
Brightline already exists
the Shinkansen exists too
I would love if they stop their descend to realism at "updating existing infrastructure", and put money into making said infrastructure work better.
I’m now imagining a Titan Submersible reimagining, where 20 rich people get onto a new cool train, and immediately get centrifuged to mulch on the first corner.
We can only dream!
The Techbros managed to defeat rail geometry and keep a train from derailing around a tight corner at 550kph, but didn't consider turning the occupants into paste.
In tech, everything at some point evolves into trains. Trains are crabs of the tech world. It could be anything. Beware if your iphone turns into train one day.
Guess what happened to my Siemens fridge? 🤣
honestly I'd prefer if my phone turned into a train those things r cool
Does that mean that 10G will be sending photon trains...
Also, iphones don't evolve.
All of these projects can be summed in "we hate poor people, so here's an inconvenient, inefficient and unrealistic to isolate us from them"
Damn bro 😂
I just want to be able to get to work (in the city I live in???) without being harassed by insane people or having to tiptoe around used needles.
I don't think that's an unreasonable thing to want.
@@AJX-2Never heard of that issue in my home country, in my entire life, ever
I take the metro every day for several years and I have never seen a single homeless/insane person
If your country doesn't allow you to safely ride public transport, it needs to fix the mental health/homelesness crisis, not abandon public infrastructure
I hate "summed" up takes that completely disregard actual nuanced reason. When a large part of society wants to be productive, peaceful, and unbothered, it is quite obvious why the isolation is necessary. Since we cant have insane asylums, the general public should be able to choose to separate from the insanity on city streets.
@@maximusdecimus2142 Which country are you from?
The point of these “Transport Innovation Startups” is to 1. Collect money from investors. 2. Pay the founders a hyper-inflated salary. 3. Do enough work on the project to be able to realistically claim they always intended to do it and that the business was just a failure and totally not a fraud. 4. Laugh all the way to the bank a few years later with the investor money they collected.
I wouldn't be surprised for all of these to be money laundering too.
The people designing these are already rich,
@@pessien8474 All that does is make them think they need more.
As an American, I'd like to say that you're completely correct: Our high-speed rail system is just a story we tell our kids. Kinda like Santa.
It's a shame we hate poor people more than we value our time
Even existing passenger rails is still garbage. Although I try to still take the trains because screw the auto industry
Santa is far more plausible to children because... they actually see evidence in their own lives.
@@robertcarter9644 one thing amtrak has over european trains is their fucking huge and comfy seats. But that maybe because the average american is double my size and weight
@@mememachine6022they have to be big and comfortable because despite being capable of well over 120kmh, the trains rarely break 60, because the rails are mostly the rotting remnants of century old infrastructure, so you’ll be on that train all day
Plus some nitpicks for the European market:
- You'll have to invent your own signalling system. If you scaled your demand back by even only fifty km/h, you'd be in range for ETCS but no, because:
- Your solution looks like it requires sticking a LIM rail in the middle of the tracks. Which is exactly where the ETCS beacons are fitted. So every time you run over some critical signalling equipment, it gets instantly fried to a crisp.
So running anywhere in Europe is pretty much a non-starter. And seeing that ETCS is becoming a worldwide standard, the places where it could theoretically technologically run and make a semblance of economic sense are dwindling.
You can tell the difference between a tech bro who’s been counting money his whole life and an engineer who’s actually built stuff. Tech bros always see the spherical chicken in a vacuum, engineers know the use case will be a flailing monkey in a septic tank.
Why the military engineers things the way they do:
what the fuck does this mean 😭
@@yaboi3339"Spherical chicken in a vaccuum" is a physics joke about idealized analysis that ignores several aspects of our messy reality to make things easy to calculate, which is often done in classes
this one literally made me spit out my tea, and im english wasting tea is like blasphemy to us :)
@@Brunosky_Inc Interestingly, there is a similar stable expression in the Russian language, but here it sounds like "a spherical horse in a vacuum"
Which I personally find an even funnier example of simplification, but I can't figure out where the difference comes from
The funniest part in this is, as others pointed out, Japan is already building a 500 km/h maglev. The TGV's experimental top speed in 574.8 km/h. Those speeds have already been achieved by current technology, so their only "innovation" is their claim of doing it on existing infrastructure, aka the most laughably unrealistic part of their project
That's the problem with maglev. It's potentially faster than high-speed rail, but not by very much - certainly not enough to justify the greatly higher construction and operating costs.
To be fair, they also want to break up the trains into individual pods that physically CANNOT be linked together, use the pods to run freight containers that have already spent weeks sitting on a container ship, and let AI have full unsupervised control of their maglev missiles zooming at nearly half the speed of sound. Clearly, there's plenty of iNnoVatiOniNg to be had here.
@@generalrubbish9513 of course! But I, too, can be a great innovator by going "I have brought in a revolution by reinventing the wheel! I made it square!"
@@plazasta Yes, that was my point lol. Their idea of "innovating" is to take something that already exists and make it worse, as is the usual pattern.
@@vylbird8014 It's kind of similar to monorail in that it has valid use cases where it's not a gadgetbahn, they're just Really niche. In the case of the one being built in Japan, it's not just 'faster because it's a maglev', it's also faster because it's straighter, more level, lighter weight and what I'm going to call 'super express', that is, even Less intermediate stops than the existing express lines....
And even with all of that it's still only viable because the regular high speed rail on the corridor it's supplmenting has already reached it's full capacity. It's not practical to fit more people on the trains, and it's not safe to fit more trains on the track, but they need to move more people on that route.
The maglev's entire point is basically to get the people who have money and need to get from one major city to the other Fast to buy a rail ticket rather than a plane ticket (because the maglev still has all the advantages on that route that rail has over air travel, if less so in the case of price and comfort) while Also getting them OFF the regular high speed rail so that said regular high speed rail can carry more people who are not in a situation where paying more for a slightly worse seat to cut ... was it two hours? more? off the travel time seems like a worthy while thing to do. (I forget the exact numbers, but it was a Substantial reduction in trip time). And when they're already spending all that money on punching holes straight through mountains, building massive viaducts (and, as a consequence, running the new line through a less siesmicly active area than where the existing one goes) etc... well, why NOT spend the extra on making it both even faster AND something of a status symbol/tourist attraction?
But yeah, Maglev isn't worth it if you're not already running into capacity limits on a system and route that already has that sort of throughput. there's only a couple of corridors in the world other than the japanese one where it's being built where maglev would be financially viable.
Techbros : Noun - A adult nerd who conforms to geek stereotypes without being smart, as they over-engineer existing tech, without actual education in science or engineering, but has a trust-fund, thus entitles them into engineering the public in their designs, without even knowing that public, because Techbros come from gated communities isolated from grievances and experiences of average people, bends the public to their will, because they have trust-fund money, and makes life more difficult for those who cannot benefit from this over-engineering.
Mad Elon basher he is, Hong Kong China people !
Take the train to China levels...
Throw in some narcissism and you hit the nail on the head.
Techbros: "Meritocracy? What's that? Can I pod it?"
I don't have any science or engineering education either (outside of the regular stuff in school obviously), but to me it's very obvious when a simple solution is better.
@@HappyBeezerStudiosyeah but to ignore that, you need a bubble of people who think the same thing as you!
Seriously, if some sort of comic book villain exists in this world, these morons would be the mules who would act as a stepping stone for said villain.
Them and their groups are THAT cartoony.
Welcome to Silicon Valley, where people do two things: attempt to reinvent the wheel, and attempt to create something entirely useless. Seems like these bros took the quote "Move fast and break things" a bit too literally.
I often live by the rule “there is no such thing as unskilled labor.” But tech bros completely destroy that rule. They don’t seem capable of developing skills
probably they never needed one
Nor doing labour. Conning rich idiots does not count!
Is grifting a skill?
Their only skill is duping people with more money and even less sense than them into parting with their money on some shitty project that looks cool but will never work.
@@XIIchiron78 Absolutely. It is a soft skill and arguably very effective to financially succeed compared to silly attributes such as hard work or actual merit.
Love how British train punctuality isn't even mentioned because it's so abysmally shit.
On a European scale.
Knowing nothing about British train punctuality, I can’t imagine it’s as bad as here in the US, especially outside the Northeast.
It used to be good about 15-20 years ago. Hmmm... What's happened since then...
Dude, count your blessings. At least you have private transit.
@@DiamondKingStudios You have punctuality in US?
Not true, we just complain more. UK trains are 90% punctual, in France they are 91% punctual and the French have about the same amount of cancellations, Italy slightly more.
German here. The car industry isnt a major factor in our railways demise. The car industry has been here since forever and up until the mid to late 90s the german railway system was a thing to be proud of and one of the very best in the entire world. Then privatization came. Profits were suddenly the only thing to care about so everything unprofitable went away. A lot of traintracks were simply cut and the rest had to operate as efficiently as possible. And with very tight margins comes room for spiraling errors as explained. Today the railsystem is a shadow of its former self and its almost impossible to bring it back to former glory if the money for that has been going into private pockets of the very rich.
Ooh...The good old privatization; a handy way to ruin anything!
The same thing happened in France.
Based take. How they convinced anyone that having "market competition" on a by definition monopoly like public train is still baffling me to this day...
Yep, same here in UK.
I am sorry to hear this.
Plz remember: the only reason why we germans can reach those giga chat numbers is because we don't count trains that never arrive.
After a certain amount of time we cancel late trains, so they don't show up in our statistics.
Our trains are bad EVEN AFTER CHEATING!
Germany: "I can't infringe on the profits of my auto companies."
France: "... We NEED this for military purposes."
Renault/Citroen/Peugeot: *Still rolling in sustainable amounts of cash* "All good, boss."
Bro were literally enablers for our car industry beeing to lazy to adabt to this millenia. And gonna go down big time once the rest of the world moved on and we gonna pay for their failure after we payed for them failing.
@@victorportable3892 Even worse in the UK, where even a shitty compromise of a high-speed system like Germany's ICE an impossible dream, and to make things worse we don't even have any domestic car manufacturers left to benefit from the total neglect of rail. Our government bends over to the German auto industry even more eagerly than the actual German government. The country set itself back a decade to leave the EU just to continue being the bitch of EU corporations.
Britain: "High speed rail? Yeah, but no."
@@vylbird8014 The current situtation is Britain is just no rail full stop. Even ignoring the glaring need for a high speed network, the whole system is a joke. I think if you did a poll, 80% of the population would agree to ripping up every single railway line to replace with shiny new roads. Apart from heritage lines, for some reason people fucking love old steam trains running on branch lines to large towns with chronic road congestion which were axed from the network in the 60s to make way for auto domination. Preserve history but fuck the future.
@@vylbird8014 Same in Sweden. Our current rightwingers (with fascist backing) govmt just cancelled a huge EU grant for improving all types of rail. They already cancelled the proposed high speed connection between our major cities and down to Europe.
Funny thing is, regular, commercial TGV's have reached speeds of 500+ kmph since the 90s. The reason they don't go that fast outside of tests and setting speed records, is that the electricity consumption becomes so ridiculous that there's just no point to it. Even with maglev, these energy costs don't increase linearly
And tear and wear on tracks/power lines, etc.
"Sure it's super dangerous, but we offset that by making it super expensive and inefficient."
Lose + lose + lose = win!
@@takix2007im not defending it, but that's actually where the concept of maglev comes from. It's levitating so no (or at least much much less) wear and tear and less friction, allowing higher speed at lower energy costs.
@@victorportable3892 You are very correct. And I would like to add to that (not as an attack), but even with those higher efficiencies, the energy costs are still 4x higher than regular high speed rail according to a Mustard video (source unmentioned, so take that for what it's worth) about the Japanese maglev railway currently under construction. Combine that with an incredibly complex and expensive guidway system compared to conventional rail, and in my opinion maglev doesn't really make sense for a serious mass transportation system, even though the technology itself is absolutely cool as shit.
Oh and that's from a serious contender with actual working prototypes and decades of development, and not some tech bro CGI fantasy. Highly recommend the Mustard and Tom Scott videos about the Japanese maglev, even though I'm pretty sure most people in this comment section have at least heard of the latter
@@AVdE10000 do you know the median speed of TGV ? it seems to me it probably does not exceed 250-300 km/h , right?
i also remember the MagLev disaster here in Germany , called the TransRapid , where legit 23 people died ( + a dozen severely injured ) on a test run unnecessarily due to high speed and just one thing needing to go wrong ( presence and subsequent collision with a maintenance vehicle ) , which of course - did go wrong. 😞
it's called on wiki the *Lathen train collision* in 2006
George Stephenson invented trains 2 miles from my house 200 years ago. He did such a good job, they still haven't replaced his design. Just thought I'd post here and boast about it!
He didn't really invent the train. The Stephenson brothers improved the design of the steam locomotive, invented by Richard Trevithick.
The Rocket went on to inspire the design of almost all Steam locomotives that came after it with almost all locomotives after the Rocket adapting it's system and general layout.
So they didn't really invent the train, but they did pretty much invent the "modern" steam locomotive.
@@joshiderniemalslacht8398 to add to that, rail tracks have existed since like forever and were used with man power
I mean, it's kind of a weird flex, but I'll allow it. We all need a W once in a while.
Why people think if cargo goes faster it will be cheaper?
If you crank up the spec of warehouse forklifts to 30mph you won't get a more efficient warehouse.
You get more and much devastating accidents that might cost the life of the operators too.
Faster is not better.
Faster is more expensive because of the safety measures you need to implement because going faster is not safer than going slower with cargo.
Even if they do not crash, the increased energy requirement for higher speeds would already caused reduction in efficiency.
"2 pair of trains per day ... that's not a rail service, that's a travelling exhibition." - That was hilarious!!!🤣🤣🤣
There is a page I follow called "Did Silicon Valley re-invent the bus again?" and every post I see is more stupid than the last. If AI is going to automate any jobs, let it automate the CEO's.
AI CEO actually sounds cool ngl. Imagine they make an absurd decision that actually leads to success, gambling is peak human
Automating the CEO would be a single line function:
bool evaluate_proposal(void* proposal_data) { return true; }
No branches needed.
The Germans do seem awfully scared of having their trains arrive on time, nowadays.
We do
if something arrives at your platform at during your trains timeslot it probably not your train
It is because we have invested very large net negative amount of money oder the past decades.
The german FDP or Porsche Party does not give a fuck about trains.
Well, to be fair, our regional distance trains are pretty much on time, most of the time.
I can’t tell if this is a very subtle faschie comment or a dig on German infrastructure.
"We will automate the trains!"
As a person who has played factorio and OpenTTD before, I'd like to see how they'd solve the train deadlock problem (Multiple trains getting stuck on a single track crossing, where each train is blocking another making it impossible for any of the trains to move)
“Using existing tracks…We just gotta practically rebuild those existing tracks”
It could be less about the tracks themselves and more about using existing right-of-way. If you wanna build new, separate tracks, you have to buy up a bunch of land along the route, which is often more expensive than the construction itself.
I'd love if those tech bros went and actually invested in rail infrastructure repairs
2 things will reliably happen every day:
1. the sun will rise
2. some smoothbrain will come up with a way to make brains worse and pedal it as super hi tech
I'd correct you, but "brains but worse" is a good description of generative AI
@@mousepotatoliteratureclub They're hallucinating more than that AI is.
Smart-Trains 😂
You made a spelling error.
It's actually spelled "peddle".
Having recently traveld to japan, I thoroughly enjoyed the absolutely efficient, fast, convenient, fairly priced Shinkansen connections
500km in 2hrs and 10min for 84eur with reserved seats. Very very quiet, little to no vibrations, even through turns we kept speeds of 250+ km/h
We did real world average speeds of 260-280km/h. Trains were at most 16sec late(measure with a radio controlled watch)
Just incredible
The trains are nice. The only problem is transportation when get out of the train station, especially if you have mobility issues, but rumor has it Japan is going to finally stop treating low speed electric scooters/mobility aids as vehicles within a few years, so that'll help considerably
*EDIT
Reason for the quiet is that the Shinkansen transitions to an air cushion after hitting >100kmph, if i remember right.
Once the train gets up to speed, it activates a pneumatic suspension to decouple the wheels from the passenger compartments.
It's a true delight to experience, and booking tickets also shows you which side you have to sit on to catch a glimpse of Mt Fuji or the ocean 👍
@@TPixelAdventures They are not maglev. Maglev's not gotten widespread adoption because it's a power vampire
@@InfernosReaper wait, you're right. They're just high speed rail systems. How the heck do they silence the wheels so well then? Noise cancelling in the cabs?
@@TPixelAdventures they designed the whole system to be as quiet and fast as possible from the start. that's it. they put some thoughts into it from the beginning.
Ironically a lot of these tech bros could really benefit of actually taking a business economics class
In France, without any levitation technology, we already have a TGV that reached a speed of 574.8 km/h between Bordeaux and Paris for a record in 2007. It's actually just a regular TGV without any kind of levitation technology.
Actually, it wasn't a regular TGV. Or rather, it _was_ a regular TGV but they reduced it to five cars, fitted larger wheels (effectively increasing the gear ratio) and motorized two extra trucks that would normally be unpowered. They also relaid the track to increase banking on curves, increased the power line voltage from 25kV to 31kV and increased the mechanical tension on the power lines to reduce sway. But they didn't add levitation, that's true.
@@beeble2003 The very emodiment of "ackchyually."
I mean, it was very interesting too. :D
@@beeble2003 Still more realistic than the concept from the video
The best thing about this channel is that you will never run out of topics, the Universe is finite but human stupidity is infinite.
Someone at techbro conference is eating an apple and wondering why the apple does not have inbuilt wifi and touchscreen
Like, theyre not even pretending this isnt a private jet on land concept... its literally just a fuselage on a track...
When he mentioned Germany
Yesterday I waited 40 minutes for a train because DB had a holdup AGAIN. I am so tired
but then I remember the US and they probably like "what do you mean you get a train more than twice a day"
I just applied for a refund for the ICE I took which arrived 1 hour and 5 minutes late, exactly 1 minute after my connection left, putting me on a disjointed trip with three different local trains which ALSO didn’t work out so I ended up having to stay the night in Flensburg, coming home 16 hours behind schedule.
And it was still better than what the americans have.
Neumünster ist meine Nemesis
yeah wissing is a criminal
The real reason none of these tech bro products stand up to any sort of scrutiny is because they’re not meant to be viable in the first place. They only need to be just convincing enough to make some 3D models and maybe a video or two to show investors so they can soak up those sweet, sweet venture capital bucks. The “pod” design makes it look like you’ve made something new, and is also easier to make a 3D mockup of than something with lots of details.
That Chinese mail was an absolute gem that stayed on screen for 2 seconds
"Ni hao need 20 containers fast"
Fucking slayed me
And I have questions about the wall calendar in the same segment.
Literally death stranding
𝘁𝗷𝗮𝗻𝗸𝘀.
Tech Bros: What if we made high speed submarine pods that snuck under the waves for passengers and freight to DiSrUpT the aviation industry, and also used said pods as modular Seasteading constructions? Also, they mine bitcoins and can be used to construct things like oil rigs and space ports.
i imagine the conversation:
guy 1: dude i just realised
guy 2 : yeh what?
guy 1: trains are like.... buses on rails...
guy 2 : daaamn that's crazy bruh
guy 1 : i know right?
guy 2 : but... wait bro... i got an idea bro
guy 1 : huh?
guy 2 : buses are slow, right?
guy 1 : yea?..
guy 2 : what if there was like a hypercar on rails.. like a hypertrain
guy 1 : brooooooo ur a fckin genius
You just leaked every tech bros braindead private conversation with each other⚠️
Good comment but you switched Guy 1 and 2 around halfway through
So:
Nevomo was founded in April 2017 under its original name Hyper Poland as a spin-off of a team of university students of Warsaw University of Technology. The student team had successfully participated in the Hyperloop Pod Competition II competition organized by *SpaceX* in California.
That explains a lot.
I love how all modern tech bro nonsense essentially lives of the same single concept.
"Argh! Live would be so much better if we just got rid of all these goddamn poor people! There's to many!"
True, doe.