Black Sabbath : Live Evil : Super Deluxe Edition : CD and Vinyl Box Set Reviewed
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- Black Sabbath : Live Evil : Super Deluxe Edition : CD and Vinyl Box Set Review
This is a very honest review looking at the positives and negatives in this set and what could have been done to make it better. However the Remix by Wyn Davis is absolutely awesome and will make this an essential part of anyone Black Sabbath Collection.
Back Ground
1982, and twelve years after their debut, the fathers of heavy metal finally released their first official live album. And what a cracker it is. And the reason for releasing it was allegedly threefold; a reaction to the 1980 unofficial live set Live At Last, the 1982 live release by original vocalist Ozzy Osbourne, consisting of Sabbath covers, and the signing of a new publishing deal which mean a fairer split of the songwriting royalties.
Live Evil Release History
The album has previously had single CD (edited), double CD and remastered reissues, and in line with the current ongoing BMG campaign, we get the Deluxe issue in a box with extras. But how deluxe is it?
A CD and LP edition are available and first out is a replica tour poster, a replica tour programme (quite substantial, and bigger on the LP version), and a book. And what’s lovely about this book is a substantial essay, you know, proper sleeve notes, with a few pictures. It’s clearly much less press cuttings and rare overseas vinyl based. So read it as you listen and enjoy. Then there are two double CDs / LPs. Both come in gatefold sleeves, and in both cases the card is a little more substantial than usual, and the CDs and LPs are in anti static sleeves.
The first set, the remastered album, replicates the original sleeve, and compared to the last remaster, there is definitely an improvement. The music, it sounds excellent. But if that’s all you want, I’m not sure the difference warrants the price point. Yes, it’s expensive, and for some reason the European release is 30% more expensive than the US edition on Rhino.
The second set in a similar package but different artwork, is the remix. Yes they’ve remixed the album, and this is superb. Some layers come put with significantly more clarity, especially the drums. You can actually make out the separate layers.
The package is, without a doubt, deluxe, and the remastered version of the album is too. However, musical content, given the deluxe tag, and price, and that a large portion of the target audience will have the previous remaster, are you going to want more? Well, yes.
Rory Gallagher’s Irish Tour 74, UFO’s Strangers In The Night, Deep Purple’s Made In Japan and most recently Thin Lizzy’s Live And Dangerous are just some of the live albums recorded over several nights that have since been reissued as multi disc sets featuring the entire individual shows. So that, here, for a live album of this standing, is a major and obvious missed opportunity. We’re not privy to what they had available to go back to, but even the most gold placed package (which this genuinely is) costs that much, one would feel a little short changed.
Gripes aside, it is a wonderful sounding and wonderfully packaged album that will be hard not to enjoy.
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It would be nice if they released the remix as a stand alone. It's probably the only item in the box that people really want to hear.
Hi Stephen, Thank you for watching. Phil
I want the extras too, once the price drops by half (like I did with the other 4 boxes) I'll snatch one. (and let's be honest most people who just want to hear it will just listen online)
Hear, hear!
Remix is amazing!
@@thereagauzeYou can’t listen to the proper sound when it’s compressed on-line
I almost got to name this LP myself. I was long time friends with Mark Forster, Sabbath personnel director, and I suggested the title "Legally Live" in reference to all the bootlegs they had out on them. Mark told me that Terry Butler was advocating for that title but went with Live Evil instead. Oh the good old days...
Hi Roland, thank you for watching and sharing your amazing story. I actually prefer your title! Phil
This remix has simply blown me away, as others have said unlike lots of other live albums including the original mix of this , the new remix really makes you feel like you are there. RJD for me personally is one of , if not the best HM vocalists of all times, and hearing this now is just incredible and yet another reminder just how amazing a. this version of BS were and b. how incredible RJD's live vocals were.
Glad you liked it! Phil
The remix is so good in high-resolution, digital audio format, that I teared up when I put my headphones on. Stunning. The original mix was unlistenable. It was a flat, dry old tire. The 2023 remix is musically juicy!
Just got my cd boxset today and immediately put on the remix version. WOW. I've long count of how many times I have heard this album but this was like the very time I ever heard it. So clear and So in your face. Still wish the crowd was a bit louder in the mix but the music sounds fantastic. Igot goosebumps as soon as Neon Knights kicks in Ronnie started singing. Mandatory purchase if you are fan of this live album.
Thank you for watching! Phil :)
Great to hear,have you had a chance to play the remaster ,how does that compare to the previous 2010 version?
Drove around with the cassette of Live Evil for many years! Love it! 😅
@@sotiristsamandanis6424 I listened to the 1st disc of the remaster but didn't A-B against the 2010 remaster, only against the remix (and my original '82 LP) just to see how far things had come. Of those three versions though, the remix is def the best (IMO). I'll have to see how it compares to the 2010 remaster though as I've been curious about that as well.
I hated the original mix. I purchased it in 1982 and played it once. I just got the remix in 96/24 and have played it through at least twenty times. The remix is musically juicy, whereas the original mix is an old, boring flat tire.
I just ordered the Super Deluxe Edition of this album.
I can't be without after listening to Black Sabbath for 40+ years 🙂
I was hoping the cover would be done in finest felt, with glitter & golden sparkles. And when you open the cover a little golden music box starts playing & a little ballerina doll pops out & does a special little dance, just for me.
I understand that is planned for the 100th anniversary edition :)
Phil, Thank you so much for such an insightful and researched review. Your videos are always done with care and attention to detail. Informative and with great value to all of us who are hard working fans of particular genres. This album will always hold great sentimental value for me. It was my 2nd concert ever attended, (Madison Square Garden). What began as a revelation to me when I first put on the Heaven & Hell album at age 15, feeling the powerful combination of Dio's vocals and the band, culminated at attending the Black & Blue tour and being in awe for the duration. This was a must have for me, all those years ago. Have bought it many times in every single incarnation...vinyl, cassette, CD....and now a 40th anniversary remix....one can dream of a Blu-ray of the concert. what could have been....I will have goosebumps again regardless, as I have placed my order and will receive it in 2 days. Thanks to your review, I know I've absolutely made the right decision.
P.S. Technical Ecstasy and Sabotage are next. Thank You !
Thank you for watching and sharing your memories of the period and what this album means to you - enjoy 😊 Phil
the cover art is so epic...the vinyl reproduction looks immaculate.
One of my favorite covers
Tony Iommi gave an interview recently saying that the original recordings had a lot of mic bleed where the drum mics and other mics picked up the other instruments and sounds. On the Remix, they were able to isolate the instruments and vocals, leading to superb sound like with the drums.
Thanks for the review. Firstly always amazing looking front cover. I’ll wait for the price to drop. The addition of the Portland show on that tour,was the clincher,along with a new mix of Mob Rules,the song. I have seen the CD boxset recently for £59,in store. I have the CD edition that crams the original album on to one disc. I have heard a lot of good reports about the new mix, so I’m feeling twitchy again.. Thank you for showing us what’s on offer in the Super Deluxe edition.
As soon as I heard the remixed (CD)....it was like being in the audience...the echoe-y atmospheric sound, it sounds amazing. Like you , I also own the double remaster.......Great Video Phil...💖☮
Thank you 🙏
Hi Phil, the reason the is no additional content is because Tony has signed an agreement with Sharon that there will be no music released under the name Black Sabbath unless it either has Ozzy singing or it has been released before. Tony Martin posted about this when he was looking for outtakes for the upcoming Martin era reissues. This is when Iommi told him he could not release any of it because of that agreement. So any other non Ozzy upcoming reissues will also just be remixed/remastered.
That is correct but for this release the reason was different as all the rights were own by Tony, Geezer and Wendy.
HI Phil, great, honest, from the heart review. Here's my tuppence worth - I bought the vinyl copies of Paranoid, Vol.4, and Sabotage. I did pick up Technical Ecstasy in the cd box. Here's the thing, I started watching your film sitting in the garden, and by 18:27, I had to retire to my Den and take the three vinyl boxes of the shelf. These are hefty beasts, Vol. 4 is heavy on out-takes which are marvellous and show the 'process' of recording it; Sabotage chucks two mixes and a double 1975 American tour gig; Paranoid gives us a triple live album - A TRIPLE LIVE ALBUM.. These are truly magnificent boxes worthy of the 'Super' label. Just now looking through them I'm still going "WoW!".. I would love to add Live Evil to the collection, desperately so.. but I've got the 2014 Deluxe Edition and it sounds great. I don't need another two mirror images no matter how more amazing they sound - I want alternate, raw, concerts.. The source material a la Live & Dangerous, Waiting For Columbus and Strangers In The Night. I think the unexpected intervention of gravity in your film said it all. Unless I see it in the 'Reduced to Clear' section at about £30, then I'm out. I may be old, but I'm not a fool and I don't particularly appreciate being treated like one. [any record company employees reading / watching - please listen to your target audience, it would be more than worth your while..]
Hi Simon, thank you for watching and sharing your thoughts which are very relevant as you have bought everyone of these Black Sabbath sets up to this point. Phil :)
Very good review and breakdown. I will wait for the CD boxset price to drop as I only want the remix cut. Thank you!
Excellent, frank review Phil. I still have my original vinyl of Live Evil which I bought back in January 1983. This album has always been a favourite of mine within my Sabbath collection. I bought the 2004 remaster on CD format not long after it was issued, and found it to be ok, but nothing special to my average non-audiophile ears. Very recently, I saw this recent issue CD box set on the shelf, only one copy of it, at my local CD shoppe. I hesitated buying it at first as I wasn't sure if there was much value added by another remaster, or a remix. The booklet seemed to be an interesting added attraction. As there were no in-depth reviews yet about the quality of this new boxset out in most media; given the scarcity of copies at my shoppe, and the fact that it was only $59.00 CAD (ie: 35 UK pounds), I decided to buy it.
----Now so far I haven't opened it up....I have been waiting. I have been steeling myself up for possible disappointment and buyer's remorse. I am now very heartened by your review, especially as it relates to the fine sonic qualities of the remix version. I will be approaching my first listen now with enthusiasm rather than trepidation. I agree totally with you on the missed opportunity; ie: no inclusion of any other additional recordings from other performances. Unless they were totally sub-par, or riddled with errors, or bothersome noise; ok then fair enough. But if there were in fact other quite acceptable live captures from other nights, why same weren't added into this new box reissue seems very much a let down.
---Once again Phil, great review. Thank you for reflecting several of my own thoughts about this package, and for giving me renewed hope about the sonics of my recent purchase!
Thank you for watching - there are many missed opportunities here but the new mix gives it wings - Phil
You’re so spot on here, Phil. It’s nice to see someone really tell it like it is, especially regarding value for money. Hopefully, the vinyl re-mix will be available as a standalone product before too long. Cheers!
Thank you 🙏
Wonderful review! I always appreciate when you compare the various releases and choose your favorite. This is one of those albums that I’ve never owned for some reason. I might have to pick up the CD! Cheers
Thank you for watching. I always comparisons like this if I have other versions to hand. Phil :)
Excellent review as always. The best and most objective review/ unboxing of this set I have seen. I decided to go for the vinyl version, which is excellent for me. Thank you Phil!
Thank you for watching and for your positive feedback on my approach for this release. Phil
Hi Phil. Just watched the video for the second time (I have a habit of rewatching them lol). I had recently made a comment on CDs v Vinyl, and I appreciate the comment you made regarding how the vinyl version had elevated your experience of the box set. I think it was important that you were honest about how it made you feel opening up the vinyl box for the first time. I believe this is a big reason why many people prefer vinyl. After all we are paying for the experience, but of course not everyone can afford it. I do think the real issue is the cost. I’ve had a look at CD and vinyl box sets, and in my opinion, the experience was totally different. Not trying to dismiss the CD. I grew up with them. However, I think this is the reality.
Hi Thomas, thank you for watching, I think you are right. I have all the CD Deluxe sets and I am very happy with them but the vinyl set does have more on a wow factor in this case. Phil
I picked the CD version up for 35 £ today. The box was opened but still like brand new with nothing missing. The remix sounds great.
Another thing that they could have included is the Live At Hammersmith Odeon album that was recorded on 31 December 1981 and 2 January 1982.
Great review!
Great review. Live Evil was my proper introduction to Black Sabbath, need to grab the cd box set ASAP
Thank you for watching. I find any album that was the entry point for us loving a particular band takes on a different meaning to others which maybe seen as more popular. I think you will love this. Phil :)
Thank you Phil! I get my copy on Sunday! What a great preview!!
Thank you for watching and so pleased you enjoyed the review! Phil :)
Thank you for a great review, I'm new to this album and as we speak its £46/£47 on a certain online retailer so this in my basket ready to purchase on payday in two days time as a bit of a Christmas pressie to my myself.
Well done Phil! We were anxious to get a new copy of this particular album. Like a lot of other people we’re sure, ours were nicked and could not for the life of us, find another decent replacement. When this was announced at it’s price point, we were disappointed AND, why can’t we just have a standard vinyl release?! We are not looking for “Super Deluxe.” 😂🎧
Thank you for watching and sharing your thoughts- Phil
I wish Phil was my uncle. I'd love trawling through his immense collection.
Uncle Phil! I can live with that - Phil :)
I wish they would have tried to locate the video that Ronnie talks about during Heaven & Hell or even tried cleaning up the Hammersmith show and included that in there as well. I saw them on this tour in Calgary in 1982 and always wondered why it was never released because that would have been a fitting tribute to RJD.
Thank you sir, once again for another wonderful review and unboxing. I always look forward to your insights and point of view on these sets. I have all the other Sabbath boxsets on both vinyl and CD, and was very on the fence about getting this one. Now that I have seen it, it looks as though I need it for the rest of my collection and also much of what you had to say has sold me on the idea. My biggest issue with this album was with the mix and sound quality, which I always found murky and dull. I am ever so interested in hearing this remix now , as I feel it may have been justified finally with this new release. Thank you again.
I also highly recommend the Sabotage vinyl boxset, which I believe you would appreciate as it seems to be far superior in quality compared to the cd version
Thank you for watching and sharing your thoughts on this and the Sabotage vinyl set. Phil
Hey Phil. I picked up this super deluxe edition based on review and agree with your assessment 100%. The remix makes the set worth every penny. Thanks!
I'm glad to hear that the remix is good. My only problem is the cost. I won't be getting this unless they lower the price. Nice review Phil!!! Keep up the good content!
Thank you for watching and your kind words - Phil :)
agree 💯
Appreciate your honest reviews. I am very curious to hear the remix now, but I can't justify the price of this set. If it drops by half I will reconsider.
I am sure the price will drop. The Rhino version is almost half price at the moment.
Thee Sabbath part of 'Black & Blue' would have been really nice in the box ( saw 'Black & Blue' at a Midnight Show back in the day)
Thank you for watching, they tried but it was not possible to get access. Phil
Thanks for the outstanding review and visuals of the books. I am considering getting it mainly for the books but as the remix is excellent that’s further reason. I have the sabotage one so far as it was on sale.
Hi Ian, thank you for watching, I always try to be very detailed in my unboxing videos - Phil
first visit to your channel, first of many really insightful great vid
Thank you very much and welcome! Phil :)
Hi Phil. Thanks for the detailed and honest review. My quandary is this: I have all the other box sets on both vinyl and CD. I bought this when it came out in 1982 and never liked it, the sound seemed muddy to me and I never played it much at all. I am however a music COLLECTOR and I will at some point get this (yes the curse is real!). These sets are always ridiculously priced on there release and have bought a lot from the States. Glad the remix sounds great and that will tilt the balance for me to buy them. But they will come down in price so I'll wait! Thanks again.
Hi Duane, I feel your pain. If you have all the others and even if this is not an album you love the pull to eventually get it just keeps niggling away ! The remix will change how you feel about this album and the price will drop. I would make some space of your shelf - Phil :)
Excellent review Phil. I am a little disappointed with record companies that try to sell us deluxe editions but leave us short. A dvd of this tour I had originally on VHS titled Black and Blue featuring Blue Oyster Cult and Black Sabbath live in concert. The full concert dvd version would have been a nice inclusion. The cost is astronomical for what you are getting. Thank you for raising this price issue for a product we already have.
Hi David, thank you for watching and your support. A DVD of that VHS concert would have been most welcome 🙏
Yeah, The Black And Blue tour was legendary back in 1981. A document of both bands from that tour should be available.
I was there on those tours but barely remember them due to the state that I and pretty much everyone there was in. Anyway, yes, I have been waiting yonks for a dvd of that one as well. Probably an issue with clearances. Black and Blue is from the Heaven and Hell tour whilst Live Evil is from the Mob Rules tour. Both great tours.
Good to see that Live Evil sounds better. It always suffered from weak sound. Now, I am just waiting to see how Born Again sounds now that Tony found the master tapes and is supposed to be working on a reissue/remaster.
@@rft2001- BOOM!! You nailed it, man! On all accounts. 🤘🏼
I don't need the "extras". I have that poster but it's original from 1983 and not folded. I really only care about the music at this point in my 60 year old life. So I got both versions as a FLAC hi rez download for a whopping total of $24 US. THAT is more than acceptable in my book!!
The "Remix" is absolutely stunning!!!!!! This isn't just a remixed version of the original. It's got some extra vocal bits, clearer effects on the drums and Tony's guitar, and you can really hear that Vinny is playing open concert toms. They have a specific sound and impact. It made the album even more menacing and powerful! I couldn't agree more with your assessment of the "remix" version.
Thank you for watching and sharing your listening choices - Phil
Thanks for the information, Phil. I saw Dio with Sabbath in March 1982 in Saginaw, and then Gillan with Sabbath there in November 1983. Both very excellent shows. I still have my Live Evil cassette from that era, although I know the original mix wasn't the best. -James G. /Michigan
Hi Albert, thank you for watching - Phil :)
Update - The price for the CD Box Set in the UK has dropped to £84 - amzn.to/3N9DgfF
I just listened to your entire review and I thought it was very good. I really like the album and when it was announced and I was excited, but I wanted to wait to hear opinions. I just ordered it from Amazon with a special price without shipping cost. Thank you 😊
Thank you 🙏
Thanks for the review Phil! I´ve to say little sad to heard that about vinyl set, beacuse vinyl is my natural place. But after earing your review, totally got your point, Cheers and thanks again!
Thank you for watching - Phil
Well now im gonna have to give it a listen now. Thanx and Cheers!
I have all of the Black Sabbath boxsets so far and love them immensely. I have been an obsessed fan since I was an eight year old kid in 1980. I have every one of thwir albums probably in triplicate or more, in several medias, as well as all of the boxsets, and stacks of bootleg live albums too. But anyways, these boxsets are the best. Every one of the Ozzy era ones comee with its own double or triple live album and the studio album and outtakes, a tour program, a giant poster and hard cover book. That is an incredibly wonderful set. I love them all.
Thank you 🙏
No doubt, the remix is fantastic. For now I listen to it on spotify but if it comes out on a stand alone cd I will buy it.
A nice objective review, once again, Phil. I would be very interested to hear the remixed version, maybe they could release a version of just that, without all the other "collectable" stuff, and a lower price. I have seen and read , from RJD, that this album is full of overdubs. I have noticed this especially on the guitar solo from N.I.B.. You mentioned the drum sound, I would love to hear "Master of Reality" remixed, mainly the drums, everything else is a great heavy sound...no remix needed there. Thanks for the review, I think that I'll stick with my original 2 disc copy for now. This album makes you realize how unique Ozzy's and Ronnie's voices are, I love Ronnie, but hearing him sing the old Sabb. tunes just seems a bit off?? On the other hand : what would Ozzy sound like if he sang the Dio tunes ??? Could be funny ?? Carry-on
I have to agree with you 100% on the remix! What strikes you immediately are the drums, and Geezer's bass are so powerful! My first thought was that I would have been a bigger fan of this album back in the day had it sounded like this. I really didn't enjoy this live album at the time and I played Speak of the Devil to death! It was so much better to my ears at the time. Now I'm of the mind that Sharon and Ozzy should go back and have a remix done and release both nights performances in their entirety with the remix for their own Super Deluxe release. Honestly, where are the Super Deluxe releases of the two Randy albums? They must not have any recordings from those sessions besides the ones we've already heard because the metal community has been clamoring for them to empty out the archives and they've done nothing at all. Very sad but, Sabbath has done a decent job of getting after it. We'd love to hear the remix of Born Again now!
I totally agree about the remix !! I would have been an even bigger fan of this album had it sounded like the remix!! As far as the Ozzy stuff goes there was a Blizzard Of Ozz/Diary Of A Madman box set released back in 2011 that had an extra live disc of a Randy Rhoads concert. Bob Daisley had a bunch of recordings of band rehearsal which were high quality and offered them for a smaller portion of royalties but Sharon and Ozzy wouldn't agree to it as they wanted a one time buy out kind of deal. It's a damn shame! I would love to hear the rehearsal tapes and also the live gigs of the original band Osbourne/Rhoads/Daisley/Kerslake. Daisley did actually post a couple of snippets of these rehearsal tapes online if you look up Bob Daisley "Holy Grail" you might still be able to find it
Brilliant comment and thank you for watching. I agree, if the remix had been the album release back then, this album would have been huge! I would also love to see deluxe editions of the Randy / Ozzy album and the long overdue remix of Born Again. Phil
Ozzy loathes "Speak Of The Devil". He thought it disrespected Randy Rhodes. Epic released it without even asking him. I sincerely doubt he and Sharon would sign off on any "new" version of it.Furthermore, Brad Gillis would need to approve of it as well, and he may not care to. Who knows ?
Never owned this album before. Not a huge fan of live albums anyway, probably own a total of eight or nine. But that said, you sold me on the vinyl remixes and packaging. Just ordered my copy from amazon for $82.80. Thanks for your opinion. Really like your in depth boxset review.
Hi Mark, thank you for watching and the positive feedback - Phil
Another great review! Thanks!
Thank you for watching - Phil
Excellent video. Probably like many other viewers I saw the box wobble slightly and I wanted to grab it before it crashed to the floor. No damage? That must be one sturdy box. I'm tempted to buy the CD box just for the remix but I simply cannot justify it: I have what is basically the same setlist but from different gigs on a number of CDs already. Should the remix come out separately in the future I will not hesitate to buy it.
After hearing the remix, I like the original one better. If I didn't want to keep the box set whole, I'd sell the remix. I bought the original as well on both cassette and LP when it was released and nothing compares to the sound from the cassette. That's for sure.
I found the same, I like the Remaster much more than the Remix.
Hi Phil a New beautiful box Set !,great colors pictures 🎉 i don't know the music i've stop listening Sabbath with departure of Ozzy !
Then you aren't too smart, friend. RJD was a far better singer and the new material he sang was better than anything Sabbath had done in many years.
Sounds good im signing up!
Excellent review, thanks!
Thank you for watching - Phil :)
I've had black Sabbath -live evil on lp since 1983,I was 13 years old then
You will love the remix !
@@NowSpinningMagazineI'll have to check it out
Hello Mr Aston, Thanks for this nice box set review. My problem along with the price is what you mentioned about the 3 nights concerts which would have been indeed THE ultimate edition, however been a sucker for Black Sabbath...I bought both box sets as i have the 96 castle remasters, deluxe and a deluxe Japanese edition, I like the remix but noticing the different way some tracks sounded kind of made me appreciate the original release more! Which to me seems like the audience voice was added to the setlist after they played them in an empty concert hall.
I wish if the great RJD was still with us to see what he'd think about this edition, as we know he disliked the final result of this masterpiece live performance.
Thank you for watching and sharing your thoughts. Phil
Great review, completely agree. Remastered albums IMO are generally a waste of money. Mastering is a lot to do with volume, not the balance of the instruments like remixing is. A remix can transform an album, like here. Remastering does very little.
Thanks for this honest review Phil. Maybe one day I will get the CD version but not for £100.
I’m probably gonna get that Vol 4 one now you say £60 a good price for it.
As this Live Evil one is £100/£120 I can’t imagine how much the Tony Martin Boxset will be.
Hopefully Born Again will be remixed and released soon.
Thank you for watching! The Tony Martin one will be on my list for sure, as will a new remix of Born Again!
Thank you for the detailed review. I have seen Sabbath 3 times. First time with Ronnie, second time with Ian and lastly with Ozzy. I don't have this lp and am on the fence on buying it. I agree with what you said, i.e. where are the other songs that could have gone into additional lps. And I also agree with you in that most fans already have the albums/CDs from bands they grew up with, so it would have been nice to offer the fans something more than what they already have. Speaking of missed opportunity, I am a huge fan of Dio's first 2 albums so I was excited when I heard Wendy was rereleasing Holy Diver again, but when I saw what was included I felt it was a huge missed opportunity. I personally don't want to hear out takes of songs and I can't believe one side of the second lp had nothing on it. I mean wow, why not include live versions of songs that we haven't heard before. Needless to say I didn't buy the rerelease.
Hi Jesse, thank you for watching and I agree totally with your assessment of Holy Diver. Phil
Wendy does seem a bit greedy, I have to say.
Thorough and extensive analysis Phil. Love the detail and thought that goes into it so it’s much appreciated. I actually pre-ordered the set from Rhino for £80 (including postage to here in Australia). I actually think that’s quite reasonable. Otherwise it’s very expensive if I bought in the shop here. I’ve bought all the Sabbath sets from Rhino.
Hi Thomas, thank you for watching. I wanted to ensure anyone interested in this set could see exactly what they were getting so your feedback is really useful. The price point you mention is far better and the Rhino sets are just the same. Phil
Forgot to mention it was the vinyl set that I ordered😅
Great review, especially your message to the marketing folks. I also have the Technical Ecstasy vinyl boxed set and thought it was great. Perfectly curated material. The Volume 4 vinyl I have but only bought it because I was able to get it for $25 US dollars. What held me back from getting it when it was first released was the outtakes. Two LPs seemed overkill. I don't need to hear 8 or 10 versions of Wheels of Confusion, with all of the false starts. I've never owned live Evil, so I may pick it up. Just wish it was two different shows and not the same one twice.
Thank you for watching and it is great to know you found this useful. The price you found Vol 4 for is amazing ! Phil
@@NowSpinningMagazine yeah My local record store has a rewards points program. I was able to cash them all in so I can get it at that low price.
Very fair review Phil and I agree 100%
Thank you 🙏
I am still waiting for proper reissues of the Tony Martin era Sabbath albums. They have done Eternal Idol as a reissue which I have on CD and with the Ray Gillen alternate version, but they have not yet done the others.
It’s that boxset or set of reissues that I am really waiting for when it comes to Black Sabbath.
Oh wow, so am I. I feel I have been waiting for the Tony Martin Box Set forever - Phil :)
A remix stand alone is exactly what I will wait for. I ordered the CD box set and listened to both the remastered and remix, and I felt that the remix is superior in quality and sound. The remastered sounded like they put a large thick blanket over the speakers and sounded muffled to a large degree. So much, that there is no reason to ever listen to the remastered again, which is why I wait on the vinyl box set. I will buy the remix on vinyl if they issue a copy of the remix alone.
Thank you for watching - Phil
Ur right sir..as a fan and collector, id spend some clams on a box set,with original album,cpl extra shows as they were etc etc, and it's a good buy then!!they know they have a bunch of shows from tha era!!so yh get on with it!!and Tony Martin Era better be cooking up soon!!🤣😁✌️🍻
Excellent review and so very true in the question..........why remaster something again and again and again.
Also very true......... I also already had 2 copies of the album - original vinyl from back in the day and a one disk cd re-issue.
I'm NOT buying it again, make it worth buying and as said UFO and Thin Lizzy showed the way to do it.
Awesome review Phil! Subscribed! Can you also tell us about your setup? Amplifier, speakers, turntable and such?
Hi Andy, welcome aboard and thank for your kind words! my system is not top end but like many of us it is always been tweaked and upgraded. I currently use a Denon X6700H AV Amp, Sony BluRay, Roksan CD Transport, Chord Qutest DAC, Cambridge CXN Media Streamer, Technics SL1500C Turntable and Tannoy Floorstanders, Tannoy 5.1 speakers and Acoustics MJ Refersence 100 Sub. Phil
@@NowSpinningMagazine im a Marantz guy myself, looking forward to more vids, keep it up buddy 👍
@@sabbathAndy Marantz make superb HIFI components - :)
Thanks so much for the review. I'm holding off for now too pricey. Hopefully the price drops. Great job. Cheers.
Thank you 🙏 I am sure the price will drop more - Phil
Oh I really should get this! 😊
Very good Job man
Well spoken. I agree with you. A missed opportunity is not including visual complete concert footage on dvd/Bluray. That's a big dissappointment. Greetings from Germany.
Thank you for watching - Phil
You are presuming this tour was filmed, and I don't know that it was.Can't manufacture footage out if thin air.
Just sat through this today. Stunning. I have to say I like the Remaster way more than the Remix. The remix sounds harsh to my ears, a lot of mids. And highs. Ill probably try in on a different system and see if my opinion holds.
I do have to say, at 24:35, it shows how heavy that album truly is!😁 My problem is getting the same album twice in one package. I just wish it was just the remix with all of the extras. It’s not like I have time to A/B two 80ish minute records. Even if I did, the one I like is the one I’m going to play from that time on. So, what’s the point of having the other set? It just takes up space. Like you said, hopefully the price comes down. THEN I might consider buying it. Great review Phil!
Hi Trevor, thank you for watching and sharing your thoughts which all make sense. It is a very heavy box, but it survived! Phil :)
Good call on this one I usually won't buy a reissue that just gives you the same music and no extra tracks or more live material.
The Born Again deluxe set is excellent.
Phil, another point I wish to raise is The Heaven & Hell , Live at Radio city Hall cd/dvd box set is fantastic as well.
Hi Robert, I have that as well, totally agree! Phil
@@NowSpinningMagazine live at radio city hall is magic!! I’m listening to my Live Evil cd right now,the 1996 edition and I really like it now (except one track, “Black Sabbath,” because I prefer to hear Ozzy Osbourne sing it - subjectively he conveys the feeling of track! )
But I’m going to wait until the price drops of the Live Evil box set so I can hear the remixed version, as you recommend in your video.
But also Phil , I want to say I enjoyed your video of the boxed set Live Evil.
I want a new release of Born Again, I love that album too.
These albums are now available to stream on most subscription music streamers. Why not before you buy?
Personally, these albums are going on my wish list. It's a waiting game for me until the price drops.
Hi John - go for the Rhino version -amzn.to/3P3BTRn
A great review, I was skeptical about this set. What would have been cool is include a show with a different set list, like the Portland or Hammersmith Odeon show. I may wait for a price drop, $100 US is a bit steep for me at the moment.
Hi David, thank you for watching and adding the Portland Show would have been a good idea. I am sure the price point will change. Phil
I agree the remix sounds better than the remaster, and it's significant. So much so that I won't bother with the remaster again. That means I really have bought a 2-CD remix disguised as a super deluxe.
Thank you for watching - I agree, that is what has happened ! Phil
We want Super Deluxe editions of the Debut, and Master of Reality, and Sabbath bloody Sabbath!!!
My feelings are with the debut, everything they had was on the 2CD set. Live material from the period was used on the Paranoid deluxe set. I think this is the same for Master of Reality. For Sabbath Bloody Sabbath there are no outtakes and the 1973 live material was used in the Vol 4 Box set. However, if the multi tracks exist I would to here a new mix or 5.2 mix by Steven Wilson. Phil
Nice review! IMO though, the real "missed opportunity" is neglecting to include the concert video that RJD mentions during the performance of Heaven and Hell.
They tried apparently!
I feel like Wendy Dio is the reason for the huge price difference.
I’ll be honest. The remix made my eyes water. It’s so beautiful to hear it like this.
Soooo inlove with the CD Box set! Less space , cheper and great sound quality ❤💿🎵.
Thank you for watching - Phil
I'm not sure about those sleeves on the CDs - was thinking of tossing them. I'm not sure I want the surface of the disc pressed up against a crease or fold for long periods.
I like that bands are releasing original mixes with remixes nowadays. Some prefer original mixes and sometimes even particular songs may have better versions depending
Here is hoping Metallica does a remix of St Anger. I’ve heard the unofficial fan version and it sounds incredible. Had that been the one released, I bet it would have a lot more fans.
Hi, the 2023 Live Evil Remix is finally in Stereo for God sakes, finally
I’ll probably be getting cds 50 bucks but really want Tour book!
Hi Phil, Hope your keeping well. I have the some of the Super Deluxe Box Sets in both CD and Vinyl formats. I don't have Technical Ecstasy, not an album that I'm keen on but I have all the other releases so far. But I will not be getting Live Evil, I have the original double LP from 82, and the 2CD version from 2010. This box as nothing to attach me, so I will be giving it a miss this time, unless they start giving them away. But I agree the so far the Sabbath vinyl Box Sets are excellent presentation wish, I have Paranoid, Vol 4 and Sabotage and I love them.
Hi Raymond, thank you for watching. There are so many sides to the Black
Sabbath story it is unusual to like them all to the same level. Phil :)
That's nice, I want that, I use to have cassette tapes of "Live Evil", Dio sounds very different from Ozzy, but still it's very good. Slowly they are releasing deluxe editions of Black Sabbath classic albums.
I wish they would also released deluxe editions of classic Deep Purple albums.
Hi Randy, Deep Purple albums as deluxe editions? I would have loved that ! Phil :)
Thanks for the honest review Phil. I already own the album three times so won't be purchasing until the price drops to under £40 ( fingers crossed) I'd love to know if there are plans for super deluxe versions of the remaining four ozzy era albums? Have you heard any plans or rumours from your contacts? 👍
Hi Shaun, thank you for watching and it is great to know you found it useful. If I hear anything about further box sets I will post it here. Phil
I saw the Mob Rules tour at Poplar Creek in IL and loved how the band sounded so when the Live Evil album came out, I snapped it up and when I listened to it I was extremely disappointed. It just sounded muffled and lifeless to my ears. After watching this video I may buy the cd boxset for the remixed version and the book.
Hi Frank, thank you for watching. The remix is a revelation ! Phil
Should of just ended the video right at 24:40. 😆 Good Review Video!
HaHa - thank you for watching - Phil :)
I think every person experienced something akin to what Conrad called “the horror” at 24:34 😱.
Glad it survived unscathed 😅.
Thank you for watching and your concern. I thought leaving that bit in the review would add a bit of drama to the proceedings! Phil:)
You are exactly right I already have this album why should I buy another box set that has the same. Everything in the book I've already know. So the only reason why I should buy this is if it had a DVD
The remix sounds absolutely fantastic. Upon my first listen, I noticed a couple of differences right away.....1. Ronnie's introduction of Mob Rules has been added. 2. Ronnie's introduction of Heaven and Hell has been removed. Sounds like there was a count in for Heaven and Hell right at the end of the Mob Rules track, but then when the track Heaven and Hell starts, there was a much louder count in. Anyone else spot anything?
Thank you for watching and sharing your observations - the remix is amazing 🤩 Phil
Thanks for the review, have ordered the cd version,sounds like the remix is the jewel,is the cd remaster better than the 2010 expanded cd?
Yes it is - thank you for watching - Phil
All worthy, these boxes are amazing!! Eager to get mine, thanks for the spoiler :)
Glad you like them! - Phil
thanks for the review , i am on the fence on getting this?
Thank you for watching - Phil
Hi Phil .. glad to see this review…
I’m new to Sabbath… yes at 59 rock fan I’m new to Sabbath 😂😂.. I have and very much enjoy the previous boxes except technical… sent it back for a refund … I now it’s one of your faves but I found it a step to far of the Classic Sabbath sound for me at the present… so l will hang back on this set for a while…
I can indeed recommend the vinyl boxes .. I managed v4 and sabotage at £46 each and paranoid)£50…
Bargains indeed…
Enjoy your new set ..
D.
Hi Dean, you are to old to get into Black Sabbath! Thank you for watching - Phil : )
I also might go for some of the other vinyl box sets. Thank you 🙏
Cheers Phil 60 in August …..😂😂..
Had Paranoid for years back in the day but never got further then that … but Sabbath were everywhere back then , loads of mates and parties… so I’m not unfamiliar… think I just took em for granted back then … still there a quite stunning band and a lot more subtle in there style and influences then I ever remember….
D
That’s one of the joys of getting older and being a fan of music. I listen to a lot of things now I would have not given the time of day to when I was younger :)
Finally I could get an original pressing from 1982 copy.
What pissed me off about this edition is that as a mandatory bundle, it made compulsive having to pay the high price for get it instead of stand alone releases (like Pink Floyd did) of the CD and vinyl versions, wich at least would've worked on an affordable price.
I preordered the CD set for 49$ U.S. from Amazon. Originally there was supposed to be a video for Live Evil , for which there are some murky clips available on TH-cam. A video would have been a nice addition to the box set, assuming there's some footage of reasonable quality.
Thank you for watching, I agree some video footage would have been an added bonus. Phil
having the technical ecstasy vinyl set I can say i'm very happy with it, the book and tour program is great so are the albums. I am kind of annoyed with the live evil one, four all the other vinyl boxsets it has been 5 vinyl (if you include the single in the sabotage boxset as one) but for live evil it is only 4 LP's and it is still the same price. also on the idea of other shows all the boxsets have had 4CD's and 5LP's so trying to speeze multiple nights onto 4 cd's would be hard. one more thing, one LP can hold 40 minutes of music and a CD can hold 80 minutes of music, so why is the album spread across 2 CD's there are versions of it on one CD, maybe if it was put on one CD then we would get the other nights on the tour.
Thank you for watching and your insightful comment. Phil
I phil you are right the price is to high for what you get👍
Thank you for watching - The price is far to high when you compare it with the others in this series. Phil
Great video Phil, but way too expensive for me. i'll stick with my 2004 and 2010 cd's until the price drops!
Thank you for watching, I am sure it will. Phil :)
Interesting that they are using a slightly different version of the "Born Again" Hexagramm. Foreshadowing a Born Again Box set? I hope so 🤗🤗
Well spotted, I did not notice that ! Phil :)