What is the science of dying from giving up

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  • Hi everyone! This video discusses the neuropsychology behind dying from ‘giving up’ (when there is no physical cause). I hope you find it interesting, please like and subscribe if you do :)
    Collab/proofreading: neuropsych@avamason.com
    Music creds: Jayan Patel
    0:00 Intro
    0:32 Giving-up-itis (GUI) introduction
    03:43 Different GUI stages I
    03:51 Stage 1
    05:04 Stage 2
    06:01 Stage 3
    06:56 Stage 4
    07:57 Stage 5 Psychogenic death
    09:33 Brain circuits
    11:27 Role of dopamine
    12:33 Dopamine & coping strategies
    13:03 Summary
    All information from:
    Leach, J. (2018). ‘Give-up-itis’ revisited: Neuropathology of extremis. Medical Hypotheses, 120, 14-21.

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  • @michaelshannon9169
    @michaelshannon9169 2 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    This study makes me wonder how Im still alive.

    • @tonyburton419
      @tonyburton419 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I take it you have experienced some shite...?

    • @michaelshannon9169
      @michaelshannon9169 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@tonyburton419 Not really. I just despise life to the point where a lot of what she says applies to myself.

  • @isabellemyzer1807
    @isabellemyzer1807 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    I'm still here because of my friends and others who care, but people are tired of hearing about my unhappiness and can't not vent, so I'll probably try to induce this. I'm all for giving to others, but my happiness matters too and I don't have what I need and have no way to get it. I have ADHD and even meds won't fix my working memory and processing issues. I can't hold a job, and my college fund is gone. I've tried job coaches too. I get bullied and fired at every job, and I'm running out of options. I really have no reason to be here. I think for people to want me here, but get mad when I talk about how I feel, is extremally selfish and unreasonable. They also shouldn't get any say what so ever. Depending on their reasoning, they likely think of themselves enough already. So who's left to think of me? This is my choice and if people can't live with it, than they should think of how I can't live with my problems and how I stayed and dealt with them way longer than they'll ever grieve.

    • @VGHOST008
      @VGHOST008 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Basically, life is too hard and if you can't come to terms with its bullshit 'social' rules that make no sense to a rational person - there is no way things will get better. I've tried many, many times and same-ish results: losing a job after a job, inability to sustain prolonged social connections and no way of getting out. At this point I'm just living to see how far I'll be able to go if I accept and embrace these 'social rules' and I do make progress. That said, the farther I go, the worse it gets and it's got harder to control sudden outbursts of sheer negativity and denial of what's going on.
      What if you happen to disagree with what is considered a norm? Work hard? Bullshit, you merely have to put just enough effort, mostly wasting time as if you were working, and be entertaining enough to your boss. Relationships? Women don't want nice guys, they'd always go for douchebags with little to no regard to their feelings and wants. Being a decent human being? No, you have to be as egotistical in your intentions as absolutely possible. This is not me, I'm falling apart, but there is no other way to survive.

    • @isabellemyzer1807
      @isabellemyzer1807 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@VGHOST008 we could just stop caring and find other who don't give a shit either. And then we make an alliance of outsiders and not tell anyone. We'll take everything we were denied or if we can't do that, then we'll mock society/the job world and have it all's intensely.

    • @kermitthefrog4830
      @kermitthefrog4830 ปีที่แล้ว

      So you guys are planning to make a cult? Nice

    • @isabellemyzer1807
      @isabellemyzer1807 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@kermitthefrog4830 lol IG...but more of a safe space type of thing like Sanctioned suicide

    • @kermitthefrog4830
      @kermitthefrog4830 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@isabellemyzer1807 interesting...

  • @MaxRamos8
    @MaxRamos8 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    And people say Padame's death was BS, but I knew it was a real thing and very tragic, man, 😔

    • @tonyburton419
      @tonyburton419 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Fictional - but based on reality.

  • @Khadinah
    @Khadinah 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Life is getting worse and worse for me. Everything that i do is difficult. I've always wondered what's the point of living if i can not live.

  • @Subilon
    @Subilon ปีที่แล้ว +12

    So I can will myself to die?Thats great news thanks Ava

    • @AvaMason1
      @AvaMason1  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It’s a bit more complex then that, but I hope you find the right support that makes you more hopeful about the future

  • @gibrildaligo-kulwa1065
    @gibrildaligo-kulwa1065 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I'm going through this. I have to force myself to eat and can't find the will to do anything. I want to stay alive to fight these rumours about me and clear my name but now I've given up. I wish someone came to help me. I really tried.

    • @m.a421
      @m.a421 ปีที่แล้ว

      Im potentially going through the same thing, dont give up bro, hold on

    • @Beatles0223
      @Beatles0223 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      No one really cares when all is said and done. And we're supposed to "hold on." For who and why again? 🙄

    • @smilingerenyeager5626
      @smilingerenyeager5626 ปีที่แล้ว

      Aye bro you still alive?

  • @chrisbedford7786
    @chrisbedford7786 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    One of the few videos that gives hope to thevsuicidal

    • @AvaMason1
      @AvaMason1  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I’m glad to hear it, thank you for your comment and I wish you all the best honestly

  • @Beatles0223
    @Beatles0223 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    No one really cares when all is said and done ... until the moment you mention suicide. That's when peoples' ears perk up because they want to play hero. It's all self-interest. Unless you're giving me money to pay my bills until I get on my feet, mind your business.

    • @AceRamone
      @AceRamone ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Very very very true

  • @lorisutton6200
    @lorisutton6200 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I need this NOW!!

  • @conner13.c16
    @conner13.c16 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Although this video has explained it in such a didactical way, there are still many questions in my head. Do these people know what is coming? Are they thinking about anything during those catatonic states? Or are their minds completely blank? If so, is it like being in a coma or sleep? Where is their consciousness? So many questions!

  • @Scriabinfan593
    @Scriabinfan593 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    How am I still alive

  • @magnus88mm49
    @magnus88mm49 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm afraid of this condition it won't happen to me right if I'm just in my house doing with anxiety?

  • @gideonnahurira340
    @gideonnahurira340 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks

  • @rogueguru2509
    @rogueguru2509 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I really need to die. But my pride holds me back, every time I move along the path, my disgust at the idea of soiling myself forces me to continue living.
    I want to die but my dignity is an impediment.
    This is extremely frustrating, as I can cease eating and drinking, but my tolieting needs still continue.
    Why can I not stop needing to expulse things? My body should be cannibilising liquids to prevent this?

  • @BananaTPie
    @BananaTPie ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Can relationship trauma cause this?

    • @John-sg5un
      @John-sg5un 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Actually it can.

  • @dariobotkuljak9673
    @dariobotkuljak9673 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I would presume hypothyroidism as a most probable cause of this. Been there.AMA

    • @AvaMason1
      @AvaMason1  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Never considered it! As someone with hypothyroidism, I found that suggestion very interesting :)

    • @dariobotkuljak9673
      @dariobotkuljak9673 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@AvaMason1 imagine it left untreated for a long time and then having stressful events, which are described as a cause of condition called myxedema coma, which is still not so known, and its description varies through time.

  • @Madam_Handpoke_XIII
    @Madam_Handpoke_XIII ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Would be better if I hadn't just read this word for word off another site lmao, just copied and pasted basically

    • @AvaMason1
      @AvaMason1  ปีที่แล้ว

      All Information from my videos are from published articles (referenced in description) so you probably read from the article itself :)

  • @gabeisawesome879
    @gabeisawesome879 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Well shit

  • @dnacannotchange
    @dnacannotchange 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Works on narcissists no contact.....success.......🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉lol.......

    • @Hannah-fj6sm
      @Hannah-fj6sm 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      as a cluster B lol

  • @lorisutton6200
    @lorisutton6200 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    please give me distinctive no fail inst=uctions on how to get this done!!