Nintendo Entertainment System :: RGB 202 / MY LIFE IN GAMING
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- Getting the Best Picture from your NES and Famicom! In this episode we cover all of the options for getting the best picture from your Nintendo Entertainment System (NES) and Famicom. We also cover alternative systems, mods, and official emulation options.
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Ahh, more of the RGB series, awesome!
I freaking loved that intro with the woodgrain wall paneling. I'm working on creating a similar set for my own vids, hehe.
[Try4ce] I just nailed two sheets of paneling to the wall in my studio room, best thing I've ever done. I've wanted something like this for a long time, and I still can't get enough of it, it's just so much fun to shoot against.
***** Haha, precisely what I was hoping I'd be able to do. I have to go and source some paneling now!
Lazy Game Reviews My basement where I played my Commodore 128, Nintendo, and eventually SNES and N64 had that exact same wood paneling, with a thick and comfy dark orange carpet, perfect for sitting in front of the TV. 70's styling at it's finest. I was actually a little sad when my parents finally renovated it in the late 90's.
Lazy Game Reviews Hey LGR get back to work will ya, lazy bum (laugh I'm making a really bad joke here please bare with me and don't interpret it wrong),you still have to make a video about the Commodore Amiga game Rat Trap that was butchered into a Simpsons game called Krusty's Fun House for consoles,people need to know the truth we got another Super Mario 2/Doki Doki Panic situation here. But seriously make a video about Rat Trap for the Commodore Amiga Thanks.
Hi lgr
I'm always astounded by how in America the NES is held in such high regard, often regarded as the first console an 80s kid owned. Because here in Australia it was virtually non existent. The console wasn't very well known here. Everybody I knew owned either a Sega Master System or a Sega Mega Drive. I never even heard the word 'Nintendo' until I got a VHS copy of Toy Story and the video game tie in for the Mega Drive and SNES was advertised. Even when I go to retro game stores in Australia, I'm hard pressed to find NES games.
Australian here, I always knew about the NES from a young age, mainly due to having had internet when I was little.
Wow, that's interesting. I too live in Australia, (Melbourne), and I knew quite a few people in the early 90s who had the NES. I will say that my first experience with Nintendo was with the Super NES in 1992 not long after it came out, I think I used a Super NES before I'd used a NES, but by late 1992 I'd seen games on the NES. My best friend at school had a NES, and that was in the late 80s, he was always talking about it. I'd say that the NES was relatively well known here. I know the Master System did well here as did the Mega Drive, I knew people who owned both.
Lachlant1984 Maybe it did better in Melbourne. I've lived in Sydney my whole life, and I never knew anyone who owned an NES back in the day. As I said, all my friends and relatives owned a Sega console.
Very interesting.
Well the NES was released in all America, Mexico, Argentina, Brazil, Chile and Uruguay were the first americans to get the console with USA and Canada :D
When I hear that theme music kick in, it feels like I'm flying...
I bid thee farewell, boring world.
There were some rare replacement NTSC-US top loaders that had Composite.
Yeah but there pretty rare
dr obnoxius Extraordinarily rare. I may be remembering the figures wrong as I read about this years ago, but there were only something like a couple of hundred Composite Top-Loaders ever made, since families had to complain about the picture quality difference between it and their old NES, and send Nintendo proof it was worse. If they could conclusively prove it, Nintendo would make them a custom Top-Loader. Sadly, most have been thrown away, broken, or are still stored in attics since few know of their value.
Of course, now that we have RGB mods without needing to cannibalise an old PlayChoice-10, these rare Top-Loaders aren’t worth so much now as outside of their uniqueness they are fairly useless.
I wonder if they can use rgb since they use the multi out
no even they have a multi out it doesnt support rgb
Woah I just noticed you dropped the voice quality when talking about the PPU quality at 2:23
that's some great attention to detail if you ask me
I appreciate how knowledgable and professional you guys are. These master classes are fascinating to watch and, once I'm ready to take the plunge into RGB, they will be a godsend, I am sure of it. Classy, informative and excellent work as usual!
From the music, to the intros, your videos just make me smile. Thanks guys!
Thank you for providing amazingly detailed and well produced retro content!
I have to say you guys made the most incredibly comprehensive and complete video series about this topic. I can only imagine how much thought and research went into it. I'm super impressed! With that said though i must also say DAAAAAAMN you two guy make some funny ass faces while reading your lines. HAHAHAHAH!! Seriously though, GREAT JOB! THIS SHIT IS AWESOME!!!!!
I like to say I'm a purist, but in reality I'm just a cheap-ass. I have my NES on a CRT and that's how it's going to be. I appreciate that folks can do better, though. Good luck, folks.
A NES connected to a CRT via composite looks amazing.
Not really, especially when you see better.
Amazing compared to what?
It's 2024 and I agree
8:24 - I have that same cart adaptor. It can be modified to correct the problem with Castlevania 3. IIRC the issue is that the adaptor ties PA13 to CIRAM /CE (Famicom cart pins 48 and 49) - probably a production shortcut since many carts tie these lines together.
To fix it, open the adaptor, sever the connection between those two pins, and use wires to connect them to the corresponding pins on the NES cart connector at the top of the unit.
I'd link to a tutorial but I don't remember where to find it. Most of the instructions that come up on a web search are for making Akumajou Densetsu audio work on the NES...
[Try4ce] I've heard of this, thanks for pointing it out again! I'd like to try it, or get someone to help me try it!
Thanks for digging up all these options and putting them into a very enjoyable video! An RGB capable NES is something i have to get into my mancave once i have one :)
Really, really, well done. Great presentation and lots of information. Great job guys!!
The third hardware revision of the RetroDuo actually does support S-video for NES games, I have one hooked up to my old CRT and the difference in quality over my original (1988) NES using composite is quite striking.
That’s fascinating, I wonder how they pulled that off. I’d love to take a look inside and see if it’s running different chips or if it’s emulation or something.
Just an all around top-shelf video. Good job.
This is the ultima Nintendo mod video to me, and the music, My Life in Gaming Theme, is a damn touching! Thanks!
Between the game carts shown, direct game capture, off-screen video, backgrounds, and music, over 50 NES games are represented in this episode, all playing off the actual cartridges (or Virtual Console). How many can you identify?
***** I got about 47. I didn't recognize some backgrounds.
Super Mario Bros
Contra
Ducktales
Dragon Warrior/Dragon Quest
Blaster Master
Duck Hunt
Legend of Zelda
Ninja Gaiden
Mega Man 2
Mike Tyson's Punch Out
Super Mario Bros 2 (Super Mario USA)
Metroid
Pinball
Kid Icarus
Excitebike
Donkey Kong
Bionic Commando
Super Mario Bros 3
Kirby's Adventure
Castlevania
Battletoads
Batman
Bad Dudes
G.I. Joe
Rygar
Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles 2
Akumajō Supesharu: Boku Dorakyura-kun
Castlevania 2
Adventures of Lolo
River City Ransom
Paperboy
Journey to Silius
Final Fantasy
Batman: Return of the Joker
Gargoyles Quest 2
Dragon Warrior/Quest 3
Shatterhand
Castlevania 3
Jackal
Doki Doki Panic
Marble Madness
Mega Man 1
Chip N' Dale Rescue Rangers
Double Dragon
Zelda 2
Cosmic Epsilon
Crystalis
+My Life in Gaming Hey guys! I've found more than 60 different games! =)
Ah! There are four games I couldn't identify!
1 Super Mario Bros.
2 Contra
3 Duck Tales
4 Dragon Warrior
5 Blaster Master
6 Duck Hunt
7 The Legend of Zelda
8 Ninja Gaiden
9 Mega Man 2
10 Mike Tyson's Punch-Out
11 Super Mario Bros. 2
12 Metroid
13 Pinball
14 Kid Icarus
15 Excite Bike
16 Donkey Kong
17 Bionic Commando
18 Whomp'em
[Coury's BG?!]
19 Kiwi Kraze
20 Super Mario Bros. 3
21 Kirby's Adventure
22 Castlevania
23 Rockman 4
24 Crystalis
25 Battletoads
26 G.I. Joe
27 Batman
28 Bad Dudes
29 Rygar
30 TMNT2
31 Akumajou Special: Boku Draculakun
32 Castlevania 2
33 Adventures of Lolo
34 River City Ransom
[Coury's BG?! Little Samson???]
35 Playchoice 10's Ninja Gaiden
36 Paper Boy
37 Journey to Silius
38 Final Fantasy
39 Batman: Revenge of the Joker
[Try4ce's BG??? Ninja Gaiden 3???]
40 Gargoyle's Quest 2
41 [Famicom] Contra
42 Dragon Warrior IV
[Try4ce's BG???]
43 ShatterHand
44 Castlevania III
45 Jackal
46 Yume Koujou: Dokidoki Panic
47 Marble Madness
48 Shadowgate
49 Vice: Project Doom
50 Megaman
51 Chip & Dale Rescue Rangers
52 Donkey Kong
53 Mega Man 6
54 Double Dragon
55 Dr. Mario
56 Super Mario Bros 2: The Lost Levels
57 Mega Man 3
58 Donkey Kong Jr.
59 Zelda 2: Adventures of Link
60 Rush'n Attack
61 [NES] Contra
62 [Thanks to Credits:] Cosmic Epsilon
My Life in Gaming
I do want to say that i've had no problems and quality issues with using my NES with a modern projector, It actually looks really good.
My Life in Gaming The NES ACTUALLY shipped with both THE RF SWITCH AND COMPOSITE VIDEO AND MONO AUDIO CABLES.
Very well covered as always! Glad I could have a small part in helping with this episode!
CollectingRetro [Try4ce] Very appreciated! When I saw Norm's video, I couldn't believe that there was material out there for both the North American and Japanese versions of the TV, and just when I needed it, too! You've got a unique opportunity, working on that Sharp C1 you've got! Thanks again!
The TV-Game switch on the back of the Famicom is an underrepresented aspect of the system, and Nintendo sold it as a feature: pause your game, switch the feed to a TV station, then flip back to resume. It’s like the stepping stone that led to the Wii U GamePad and the whole Nintendo Switch.
Kudos for another top-notch video guys. Love the intro music to bits (pun intended)
You should cover the polymega when it comes out, as it emulates various retro consoles in HD, through expansion modules for cartridge games, and the console itself for CD games.
True, I remember I was four or five, and I woke up at my grandparents house, and I saw one of my cousins playing Super Mario 2, I also remember adventure island from that day, it was awesome.
Found my NES delivered the best quality of its life when I ran the composite video into my receiver and out via HDMI from the receiver to an HDTV. It must be upscaled by the receiver but it still manages to retain the right "feel" even blown up to 60". Looks gorgeous and it's an easy solution for those that don't want to pop it open and modify it.
Another great video guys. Really informative as always and I can safely say as a massive retro gaming collector, who likes to think he knows a fair bit about old games etc, I genuinely enjoy watching your show and always learn something new. The NES is my last 'project' now I've finally modded my duo and I've been debating the best route to go down so this video really was perfect timing!
[Try4ce] Glad to help! Even when we think we've learned and tested enough to tackle a subject, we're always learning something new in the process of writing the script and further research. There's just so much to learn about old consoles, and it blows my mind that they've been connected to my TV for decades, and I'm still learning what they're truly capable of.
I know! And the older I get the more it fascinates me lol! Also after checking out the Aus site regarding the NES RGB mod I've finally found someone here in the UK that can mod my game gear for TV-out meaning I finally get to play GG Aleste 1 and 2 on my TV in a way that doesn't involve emulation of any description!!!
Another great video guys. I got my RGB NES/Framemeister setup going after watching your 101 and can't recommend or thank you guys enough.
[Try4ce] That's awesome! It really completely changes your gaming setup in ways I honestly never dared to dream was possible. That's why we can't stop taking about it!
I still come back to rewatch the videos. This series got me RGB modding my consoles and I need refreshers when I go to a new console. Still, the production value and quality in these videos far exceeds the majority of TH-cam videos. I'd be open to purchasing the series on a BluRay for archival purposes.
Great video! But I have to ask in the beginning of the video you have your Nintendo and TV displayed on top of a wicker chest. That is the exact same one I had as a kid !!! freaking amazing.
Got my NES back from it's RGB modification a few weeks ago. It truly is amazing! Only one problem....now I want a professional RGB monitor, like a sony BVM20 or NEC XM29. My quest for pixel perfection is far from over, but well along it's way thanks to this video series. Thank you!
it's better if you pick up an OSSC and just plug it to your regular 1080p TV.
It's easier to get a scart to component converter for like 40$
@@Ballowax That would be the worst solution. Those converters are usually made with video in mind and are horrible when it comes to games.
@@symphony137 you mean those generic SCART to HDMI boxes. Those boxes interlace 240p content. Try4 and Coury made a video on framiester alternatives and one of them was a SCART to Component converter from DB electronics. This treats 240p correctally and it spits out the same resolution so this box can be used for CRT tvs
Amazing video guys!
Another excellent video in the series. After getting my XRGB Mini, as per your recommendation, I have been debating on how to get better quality video from my NES. There are a lot of options here. Thanks again for these videos. They are gems in the retro gaming community! Cheers.
DavetheNESGuy [Try4ce] It's worth it! I had the Framemeister for about a year before I modded my Famicom... I remember tolerating it well enough, but dang, it really struck me just how much I've gotten used to RGB quality NES while recording some of the composite footage for this episode.
Ya, I've only had the Framemeister for about a month now. I figure I'll tolerate it for as long as I can. Then - bam - the plunge into 8-bit RGB!
This series has been great, but I do not regret getting a Retron 5. After all the delays last year it was very well worth it.
I've got a pre modded av famicom for about 200 bugs, from a mentioned modder, really really like it, also thanks for living in Europe I can simply plug in an rgb scart cable and it works like a charm.
I was born in 1982 my first system was Atari 2600 then nes then sega genesis then ps1 then ps2 I currently have snes ps2 ps4 xbox.360 and plan to get another NES and sega genesis great video
Really fascinating discussion. That RGB mod looks so tempting. The games look fantastic.
Great informative video! Thanks guys
From what I can tell on my own CRT, the AV Famicom's composite signal isn't nearly as bad as the NES's signal that you show in this video. I'm thinking of modding it to output RGB because I love the Famicom but I'd be doing it myself and I'm a bit afraid of screwing it up.
The AV Famicom is a wonderful system, I opened it up and I was impressed with how solid and pretty it looked on the inside
seriously. The title music gives me chills! you need to contact Spielberg and tell him to use in the film version of Ready Player One.
same!!!!!
do u know what it is?
I've placed an RGB limit on myself, only consoles that can natively output RGB, or else it would go ad infinitum for me. Additionally, I don't mind the composite on NES. Anyway, these guys are awesome, keep up the good work!
Great video once again guys, seriously, keep up the good work! I wasn't born in the 80's, but growing up in the mid to late 90's, I always saw other kids playing on the front loader NES, and grew quite fond with that model. I was wondering if you guys have heard of the blinking light win made by arcade works? It's a total godsend for "Toaster" enthusiasts like myself.
[Try4ce] I'm not sure I know what you mean. Are you talking about removing the lockout chip that causes NES games to have extra trouble connecting?
Jdmboi17 [Try4ce] Wow that's really cool! I might actually try that, because my front-loader has had problems lately with actually "catching" when I push down.
Your theme sound is awesome 👏🏼
Hey guys, I love your channel. You're the reason I got back into collecting :)
Quick question. Is there a decent way to get component cables out the NES? I know it will need to be RGB modded but will i have to go from SCART to a converter to component or is there an easier way? Thanks
[Try4ce] The easiest way would be to use HD Retrovision's SNES component cables. They convert RGB signals to component, and we have indeed tested them with RGB-modded NES and N64, and even a PAL GameCube... works amazingly with all of them. Their second batch of cables will actually go on sale September 10 at 6:01 Central time. They're expected to sell out VERY fast, so be ready if you're interested. Alternatively, you could get an RGB SCART to YPbPr component transcoder. These would work with multiple systems, but in some cases, you may need to break audio out of the SCART cable with an adapter, because audio would not pass through some transcoders, only video.
I like the little bit at the end about it being ok if you like it old school. I been enjoying this series but i really prefer playing my NES on my little 13'' crt. When i started gaming all we had was an old black and white TV so color is a bonus for me lol
SinisterSally [Coury] Heck yeah! Its been a huge factor for us with these to say "hey, here's this stuff you can do with your systems that you may not know about!" There's a ton of info out there can make the subject feel almost impenetrable, so that's why we try to explain it the way we do - because anyone should be able to get into it if they want to. There's no right or wrong, people like what they like and should be able to enjoy it just as much!
NES Classic Edition is the definitive way to play NES games. With 30 games in 720p, save states, the option to add more games (If you hack it), multiple aspect ratio options, and an awesome menu screen with killer music. A must have in my opinion
great videos thank you guys for making the RGB Series, would love to see one for the n64!
Lukas Müller [Try4ce] We get more requests for N64 than anything else, it's amazing to me! Don't worry, it's one of my favorite consoles, and we will definitely feature it in the coming months!
There’s actually a few units of the American Top-Loader NES that use the same Multi AV port as the SNES. However, there are likely less than 100 of these units in existence and possibly less then 10-50 of them that still work. The reason why there are so few of them is because Nintendo only made them specially for people who complained over the lower picture quality of RF, and as such there are very few left in existence.
(They still don’t output RGB though, as they continue to use the same crappy Ricoh PPU.)
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Fantastic stuff guys!
I love this channel so much
For some reason, the NES composite video is clean on my CRT TV.
[Try4ce] Yes composite looks much better on CRTs, although it can still be messy. We weren't showing CRTs as often at this early point in the show.
Been on the fence about this system and upgrading to RGB, but its still fairly costly lol. Thanks for the video.
Jesse Morin [Try4ce] I know what you mean. I was reluctant to get into the Sega Genesis myself because it seemed like a pain to add a second system to my setup that wasn't capable of anything more than composite video. When I discovered that wasn't actually true, I got a Genesis not long after getting my Framemeister! When making this video, I was surprised to see how much the pre-modded systems had gone up in price... but if you buy the parts yourself ($90 RGB board, which costs less in US dollars, NES model of your choice, probably like $100-$130 in modding service)... it can be a bit more doable.
Great info and presentation. I sent my front loader NES off for an RGB board install after watching this video. Haven't got it back yet, but I'm excited about it.
+shredguitarkev [Try4ce] You won't be disappointed!
+My Life in Gaming Would you recommend the SNES HD-Retrovision component video cable to someone using a CRT? I'm currently weighing my options for when my NES gets back. I'm also debating just using my SNES s-video cable set, but since RGB modding the NES isn't cheap I'd like to get the most out of it.
[Try4ce] S-video may be a good option while you wait for the HD Retrovision cables... though we have our hands on some, the full production run will not be finished until much later this year, or potentially into early next year. You could also consider some generic SCART to component boxes. But yeah, I'd start with S-video and then figure out what you wanna do from there.
Thanks!
Amazing quality content!
I want to mention what I use to play NES games, which is a great solution, if you aren't a purist. I use FCE Ultra GX on a softmodded Wii. It works great for most games. It is the only solution I could find that has wireless controllers, and works with zapper games on a modern TV. FCE Ultra GX uses the Wii remote and sensor bar to "emulate" zapper support on NES games.
Err... Famicom owners actually had an option for RCA before the Famicom Mark 2... Sharp's twin Famicom had 2 New connections, a Mega Drive style port and mono RCA.
Well done! First time watching you guys. Just a very well done video. +1 subscribe
Another great video, I am actually looking into RGB modding my system, which is a top loader, but I am kind of conflicted between it and the AV Famicom. I heard there is also a Famicom to NES converter out there as well but it is more expensive so I am not sure what is the right way to go.
[Try4ce] I know that Coury wants to get a Famicom to NES converter, but I dunno much about them myself. I've heard that the converter I have can be re-wired to create 100% compatibility, even with Castlevania III (kinda the benchmark game for if something will work). I'm curious, but haven't pursued it.
Just got both my NES 101 rgb ready and my famicom adapter modded for mmc5 and expansion audio. Personally, I would go with a Honeybee famicom adapter. Those tend to be the best quality converters and the mod is very simple with many youtube tutorials available.
can you make video about the other scart to HDMI adapters for those who don't have $300 for an xrgb and yes I've heard about HD Retrovision but it still doesn't solve the problem with newer TVs that can't handle an image under 480p especially newer 4k TVs. maybe some like the new MHL scart to HDMI that goes for around $17 it the more commonly used one? thanks I really enjoy your videos the quality is extremely nice you deserve more subscribers!
Love these videos
Hey 8:41 nice Parachute Limit. Great song
Hi Try4ce. Around the 8:30 mark, you mention playing Famicom disk system games on your AV Famicom. I'd love to play Doki Doki Panic, shown in the video, on my AV Famicom. Do I need the disk system, or is there a way to convert the disk games to play in the cartridge slot? (Kind of like the 72-to-60 pin adapter?) It seems that DDP was never released as a cartridge, at least legitimately. Keep up the great work, guys! Thank you.
+Eric Toalston [Try4ce] Yeah, the Famicom Disk System is needed to play FDS games. I'm not sure about playing the games on something like an Everdrive (if it works), but if you want to play the real thing, yeah, you need an FDS. I'm loving mine, it was completely worth it. Just keep in mind, if you look for one, make sure that it notes that the belt was replaced. The belt that runs the drive was an oddball size, and even if it was unused, apparently you simply can't expect the old original rubber belt to work today. I haven't had a single issue with mine, and supposedly it was replaced. Japan did get a cartridge release called "Super Mario USA" that's just our SMB2, but for the real Doki Doki Panic, yeah, that's FDS-only. I'm planning to do a future episode featuring some neato FDS games.
Where did you purchase the NES to FAMICON cart adapter? Is there a 'brand' that you recommend? Also, for SCART cables, do you use European rather than Japanese versions even though using the Framemeister?
The RGB on the NES is pretty awesome. I was about to get one myself till I starting watching GameTechUS vids with Kevtris designing a hdmi mod. Its done now and is awesome!
+GameRW [Try4ce] I have to admit, I was kind of ignoring the HDMI mod, because I figured it would be no better than RGB to the Framemeister. But I had a chance to check out the soon-to-be-released HDMI mod for the N64, and it blows RGB outta the water. th-cam.com/video/qpy1M6v2_MI/w-d-xo.html&lc=z12ujzd52kvesfwis04cfnrxjxytffjb4jo I don't expect HDMI on the NES to be quite so drastic of an upgrade over RGB, but I'm super curious about it now.
Yea been waiting on that one as well. Cant wait to install that in one of my N64 units.
Great video...btw are you a Tom Hanks impersonator, cause you freaking nailed it!
One Weird Guy [Try4ce] I honestly can't hear it, but I get that allllll the time, haha.
You guys do justice to every system you cover! Thank you! Do you plan on visiting Japan anytime soon?
[Try4ce] We were in Japan last year shooting our documentary M2: Complete Works. We desperately want to go back, but have no firm plans at the moment!
Fantastic video, thank you.
great vid!
Great! video guys >D
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I'm just playing my NES on a CRT TV, the way it's supposed to be played. Also, the Zapper only works with CRT TVs.
Recently, Krikzz (maker of the EverDrive flash cartridges) came out with the RGB Blaster, a plug-and-play adapter for the Famicom that gives off a decent RGB signal without having to modify the console.
I picked up one recently and I’ve been using it with HD Retrovision cables and the RetroTink 2x. Works pretty well.
when you say to use a snes rgb cable with the nesrgb mod wichnone do you mean, the one with resistors or capacitors, Im confused and need clarifacation
Recently picked up a framemeister. SNES looks great but N64 not so much; signal is noisey with significant difference in contrast with a clear divide halfway across the screen (very clear on the starfox intro), lots of aliasing and just generally messy looking. Going to try tweaking the settings and I find using the normal image setting with the low pass filter helps (particularly the contrast issue), but would love to see a video on the best rgb settings for the N64. Also having issues with the framemeister recognising premade profiles on the sd card despite multiple restarts, going to try reformatting (removing the firmware folder that is still on there) and adding the profiles back on to see if that will help. Either way any info on this would be good personally and probably help the xrgb community. Thanks for all the great videos, it's a bit of a rabbit hole at times and your videos really help to inform xrgb users.
Andy V [Try4ce] N64 is interestingly enough our most-requested topic. Don't worry, it's coming, but as I always tell people, keep expectations modest when it comes to N64 picture quality. At the end of the day, you're looking at 3D graphics in 240p, with heavy anti-aliasing, and there's only so much that can be done to make it look better with the original hardware. As for Framemeister profiles, this is definitely something we want to feature sometime as well. It's a shame we released our settings video just before the 2.0 update went live!
So would an NESRGB modded into a Famicom toploader be compatible with HD Retrovision's component cables? Or is the NESRGB even needed?
Finally found a Canadian installer for the NESRGB board. Time to re evaluate the budget.
First gaming console brought home that i wanted was the Sega Master System. Even to this day I prefer it over the NES.
I have a Tim Worthington modded NESRGB Top-Loader I purchased on eBay. The colors are perfect when connected via AV. But when I run it with RGB via SCART through the XRGB-Mini the colors are too red. I can't seem to figure out why or fix the issue. Could you help direct me.
I'm looking to purchase an AV Famicom system, plus the NESRGB kit, for use with an Everdrive N8 Famicom. I want to send the unit to Voultar for the installation, but can anyone explain the difference between using the stock audio circuit versus the NESRGB audio circuit with expansion audio? I'm a little confused, as the AV Famicom already supports expansion audio. Thanks!
Hi, thanks a lot for this really great video! This is the first one I saw when I started watching your RGB Masterclass. However, I'm a little bit confused with the information provided at minute 4:10 where you talk aboout RCA composite video and RCA mono-only audio on the NES and that we could use and RCA Y-Adapter to split mono audio up to 2 different RCA cables, and then you mention that by using this approach the image will be less noisy compared to the RF switch audio/video method.
So, my question is. Is the RCA Y-Adapter for audio approach has to do anything with having better image clarity (composite video signal less nosiy) when comparing it to connecting a single RCA cable for audio?
Again, thanks a lot!
[Try4ce] No, it has nothing to do with picture quality - it's just a way to make it so that audio doesn't only come out of one speaker.
@@mylifeingaming thanks a lot!
Always love these videos! I had purchased an XRGB mini after your initial video introducing the product and I've loved every minute of it. I've had the NESRGB board bookmarked for some time, but haven't yet taken the plunge. I only have my original NES, but have been debating getting the NES-101 vs. the AV Famicom. The difficulty with playing some NES games on the AV Famicom even with the adapter has me put off just a bit, and I believe there's a similar adapter to play famicom games on NES hardware. I have to look into that more, but if that's correct I may just go with the NES-101 and a famicom adapter.
Of course add to that the additional issues with the SNES RGB signal that have been ironed out by the modding community and it seems this never ends!
Starwars4J [Try4ce] It's crazy how much the landscape of playing retro games can continue to change, all these years later, isn't it? I know it would be an "unnecessary" cost, but there's part of me that's just so tempted to get a NES-101 and have it modded. Well, maybe someday. The adapter I have is quite well regarded, and I understand if you fix some of the solders, you can get compatibility with Castlevania III (which is also often a tough game for clone systems and such). I've never heard of anyone talk about Jackal compatibility issues other than me. In addition to tending to frequently freeze, the text on screens between levels is also screwed up. I've played through the same cartridge on my unmodded front-loader and none of these issues occur.
***** You may have that skill set, but sadly when it comes to soldering I have zero experience. I'd mess the entire thing up I'm sure. I need to find a good modder to get this all together for me, I had somehow missed that on the NESRGB site he links to modders by country so that will be VERY helpful to me!
Starwars4J [Try4ce] Haha nah, neither of us have soldering experience. That's why I haven't tried anything with it! Mostly because the modders I asked weren't familiar with it.
I know this is super old, but Castlevania 3 contains an MMC5 chip, which that 72-60 pin adapter needs to be modded to force compatibility (not sure about Jackal, though).
I do wonder, emulators have filters for CRT, smoothing, etc. Are there RF-modulator filters? :)
Can you tell me who you used to do your NESRGB mod?
thanks
I love composite messy look.
I both love and hate it. I love it because the image isn’t really sharp, but at the same time if I stare at it long enough it messes with my eyes
The twin Famicom that came out in 1986 had composite video
I am so confused what cable do I need to hook a NES RGB modded NES to the framemeister (I am using Euroscart adapter not the JP21 with my SNES currently).
Which console would be best for a owner of mostly PAL carts but also a few NTSC and an EverDrive N8?
I would say just get a PVM. Plain composite on PVM looks fantastic.
You seriously have me considering modding my top loader NES.
+Generation 16 i got my toaster modded for RGB and it was worth every penny. the image is beautiful
the image change from composite to RGB on the original NES is a huge difference.
on a 26" smart tv, av modded famicom gives great image quality with some ceramic capacitors.
Do you plug it directly into that Smart TV or do you use an external upscaler or line multiplier for the AV famicom
This man's face has so much remarkable charisma in the video
I can't believe it's been over a year since this episode was released... and it's still great material!
Anyways, do you guys think you'll talk about the AVS from retroUSB at some point? It's an HDMI compatible NES system, and after hearing about it, I'm rather interested! Considering how much cheaper it is than the Analogue NT, I feel that's a bit more of a viable option than getting a modding service for the NESRGB (definitely some day, just not now).
[Try4ce] If we can get our hands on one to test, we will absolutely make a dedicated 300 level episode for it, just like we did for the Hi-Def NES. We are definitely looking into it!
I find the nes is the one console when put on a really good crt in 16:9 looks fantastic with just composite.
using the australian NES RGB mod with sync on luma cables will look good? or CSYNC is preferable?
+kurikuraconkuritas [Try4ce] There really shouldn't be any perceptible difference between the two!
As a purist, if I had a NES, I would still plug it through RF. I generally try to go with the better image quality avaiable, but I don't like to mod the systems to get it. Composite is better, but as you said, the top loader is much more reliable and some TVs display an image 99% as good as Composite through RF. Also, since the RF is generally not used but still avaiable on every TV, it is easy to maintain the NES hooked up when you have too much consoles.
Filipe Lima [Try4ce] I've actually got my front-loader NES hooked up to my CRT, and I use RF on it just out of convenience, and to keep the TV's limited inputs open for other systems... I mean, if I want high quality, I can just play the Famicom on the Framemeister instead (which I normally do). The CRT is just for fun/nostalgia/shooting off-screen video, so RF is fine for that!
That intro music kicks ass.
fceu is an emulator to run NES games on ps2. It outputs 240p insanely good. You can choose between Interlaced mode or not. If you choose not you can clearly see the scanlines if you hook it up to an crt using european scart connector. Cheers from Sweden
is anyone able to tell me if the ppu from the front loading nes would work with the top loader? i have a front loader that i cant seem to boil/bend the pins on well enough for them to work and aftermarket onces still flash a great deal of the time.. id like to do an rgb mod on my top loader with the front loader's ppu to perhaps not have to worry about the jailbars that the top loader is known to have. there not a huge issue to me but if its possible to not have them, than why not?
At 7:30 how are the trees in Contra waving around like that? I've never seen them move before, is that a different version of the game?
Its the Famicom version of the game - has a lot more background animation than the US version.
@@mylifeingaming That's cool to know, I'm going to have to check out that version. Thank you for the very quick response.
I would love to see an Atari 7800 video from you guys too!
By an amazing coincidence I watched just before this GTV Japan's video on the Sharp/Nintendo partnership. Can't make that up, very strange coincidence.