We don't tend to talk about skilling offhands, because we don't really talk about skilling much. I just assume people skim the "helpful items" section on the wiki. Also the catalyst fragment is 100% a skilling offhand. 😜
Skilling offhands are nice, it should be augmentable for sure, but i guess it would be too op having 3 or 4 perks on each, because you can have 2 perks on the main hand, they didn't want to give more perks on offhands...
@@me0101001000 they prolly wanted to but didn't know how to balance it, tho idk the XP rates regularly get increased and combat have so many perks that boost pvm, I'm confused why they can't find a decent balance even if it's a pretty big boost, as long as it doesn't break or create a unintended supply surplus that breaks the economy.
@@miahuh if you could augment offhand skilling items theyd be insanely op. You cant really compare combat and skilling, since augmentation on main hand weapon gives, lets say 3% damage increase and offhand gives 2% = 5% In total. The augments you have for skilling, combined with the effect of the offhands would give you insane bonuses, not percentage-xp-wise but say you gain 10% more materials + 5% xp + materials etc. Combine that with the 1000 Other boosts we have for skilling (outfits, avatar misc. unlocks, potions, auras, sticks, spells etc) and its completely broken
The artificers measure does proc on contracts, although you will never really be able to get it past 0.5% due to the time it takes to complete each project and the low rate of plank consumption compared to flatpacking.
The artificers measure is insanely good for iron man. The extra flask is huge especially if youre like me and can't be asked to do dailies, even the really important ones, every day and the extra urn chance is a good time saver
I mean, the Fyrtorch (what a name lmao) and the Corehammer should be more popular by the fact alone they provide Splintering and Deathspore Arrowtips (respectively), two of the most interesting Arrows available to rangers. Now, with the reworked Piercing Shot both arrow types are even better to use, Bakriminel Bolts are still pretty solid GP for a Daily. I think the only downside comes from the Corehammer, which doesn't work on all rocks (such as Crystal and Red Sandstone Mines). Lastly, the Artificer's Measure is a Staple Slayer Inventory Item, it's basically an Upgraded Gem Bag and should be on every slayer Preset. All XP rates and such are just a secondary, at least for me.
The artificers measure is a pain to make but well worth it if making a lot of flasks at crafting portables and the Fyrtorch is really useful for Croesus and BGH. Used to also be good for Baks when they were actually worth doing.
They're mentioned on the bis lists on many skill guides + croesus, I think it's odd to state no one is talking about them. Virtually everyone I run into in priff has them.
For how good they are I don't see them being talked about enough / there doesn't seem to be a lot of info on these out there. Perhaps because it's skilling related and not pvm related like animate dead.
I don't think anyone is talking about these because they're a pain in the ass to get. The Coesus off hands are rare drops and both worth roughly 100m. The measure is the worst offender. I created a blessed flask, which has pretty similar crafting requirements and materials. The flask is great, but I simply can't recommend it to anyone else because making the damn thing is such an unfun ordeal that feels more like a soul-crushing job than a valuable equipment upgrade. I have to assume the measure is similar.
As someone who owns both, i agree and can confirm your statement. Can't imagine making a second (let alone 10) Blessed flask. I should basically need to live off of people's Tips and Sponsorships as a RuneScape streamer in order for me to push myself through that process ever again.
I would like to add a fact regarding Artificer's Measure: If you own multiple versions of it, they share the same gem storage and its capacity. In other words, if you have two of them you will still be able to carry max 100 of each gem , not 200. This was a huge disappointment when I finished my second measure (to make gem mining more afk) on my ironman.
Gem bag always work like that, tbf , mostly of the store things in this game works like that because the storage interface are bonded to your acc not on the item itself.
Yea I noticed this when I went to make my artificers measure a few months ago couldn’t really find anything about it on TH-cam and really only what I needed to make it on the wiki
I genuinely forgot about the measure's effects due to being 99 in construction but will definitely try to remember to use it when building that new player fort. edit: or not lol. Going to wear it anyway!
Welp. I bought the sana's frytorch for 294mil, and it's fking amazing, with the juju woodcutting....im literally racking in money and already made the money back. Holy fk
From when I was working on 99 construction the artificers measure worked with construction contracts, and that was maybe 1 year ago? Maybe they changed something, or it’s bugged!
I just checked it myself on a couple contracts, and it still procs the effect. It procced on one for bob's axes in lumby, but when doing the exact contract he did in the video, it did not proc, likely due to the plank amounts for the different things being made
Not specifically the items from this video. But the general Jagex way: nice item which gives you couple of % -> i.e Requirement x skill lvl 116. (Or requires another skill lvl ~99, but levelling that skill requires antoher skill, etc, etc). which Personally I dont like to level one skill 100+ just because I get couple of %. So. Booster items are nice, but when you can get them, finally they alll became pointless. Or some item just cost about 200m. Fresh account? Bonds? Aaaaaaa... yeah...... A less boring gameplay should be supported. Like If you levelling roughly all skill at the same time, rather than lvl one just to get something. So putting something behind 100+ Invention requirement is so pointless because most of the players reached 99 in the skill they want to support. I would be fine even with -20% exp. That 1-2 extra gameplay doesnt really matter.
Few people talk about them as they are rather obnoxious to make (personally plan to make the measure but put off by the material requirements) The other buyables (if not ironman) are a choice that you have to decide if its worth the money just for the effects XP boosts from these items are not worth anything IMO your mileage may vary
watching ur videos make me wanna play runescpae but unfortuately i sold my computer and im a business owner i barely have time for anything.. i barely sleep.. ur videos keep me in the loop
Another reason to not ignore your quests. Honestly, once you have your Master Quest Cape, you can do virtually everything in the game. Sometimes i feel like another JMod thanks to that fact.
People arent talking about these because you're all PVM addicts... I'm a killer and every single skilled I know is very well aware of the skilling off-hands :P
Most PVM'ers are one trick ponies tho. They're not experts at this game. They don't know nothing about Lore, Efficient Skilling or Clue Scrolls Completion, Don't have Comp/Trim Cape (let alone master), and their Runescore is laughable at best. Aahhh but they can do 2,000% Solo Zamorak and that's about it. It's rare to see Comped Players, Trimmed Even, with QPC (let alone MQC) and Max Runescore with Golden Clue Scroll Titles. I can, honestly, count them with only one hand.
And that, I'm assuming is without unlocking the Quest Cape (let alone MQC), Comp Cape (let alone trim), and with something like 18K Runescore total. Just wait until you get the brilliant idea of chasing the clue scroll titles, haha, biggest time sink in the game.
The statements made in this video felt rather... off-handed.
Dad, no!
Hey, you're the dude that's on EVERY single post on reddit that has more than like 30 upvotes lol
@@tristanphillips5995 Incorrect, my minimum for engaging is 32 upvotes.
Brilliant lmao
"Fort Forinfry" (for in-free)(cc)😂
We don't tend to talk about skilling offhands, because we don't really talk about skilling much. I just assume people skim the "helpful items" section on the wiki.
Also the catalyst fragment is 100% a skilling offhand. 😜
Skilling offhands are nice, it should be augmentable for sure, but i guess it would be too op having 3 or 4 perks on each, because you can have 2 perks on the main hand, they didn't want to give more perks on offhands...
Apparently some data miners said they were meant to be augmentable.
I have no idea why they aren't.
@@me0101001000 they prolly wanted to but didn't know how to balance it, tho idk the XP rates regularly get increased and combat have so many perks that boost pvm, I'm confused why they can't find a decent balance even if it's a pretty big boost, as long as it doesn't break or create a unintended supply surplus that breaks the economy.
@@miahuh if you could augment offhand skilling items theyd be insanely op. You cant really compare combat and skilling, since augmentation on main hand weapon gives, lets say 3% damage increase and offhand gives 2% = 5% In total. The augments you have for skilling, combined with the effect of the offhands would give you insane bonuses, not percentage-xp-wise but say you gain 10% more materials + 5% xp + materials etc. Combine that with the 1000 Other boosts we have for skilling (outfits, avatar misc. unlocks, potions, auras, sticks, spells etc) and its completely broken
Forge Phoenix have additional loot than a normal fire spirit (Phoenix feathers, onyx dust for example) it's even on the wiki
When I looked it up I could've sworn it sent me to the same table. Going to triple check soon
I feel like people don't talk about them, because the items speak for themselves.
The artificers measure does proc on contracts, although you will never really be able to get it past 0.5% due to the time it takes to complete each project and the low rate of plank consumption compared to flatpacking.
It can proc the xp buff but you don't get the speed up chance is what I meant
The artificers measure is insanely good for iron man. The extra flask is huge especially if youre like me and can't be asked to do dailies, even the really important ones, every day and the extra urn chance is a good time saver
Someone is merching again. ;-P
I mean, the Fyrtorch (what a name lmao) and the Corehammer should be more popular by the fact alone they provide Splintering and Deathspore Arrowtips (respectively), two of the most interesting Arrows available to rangers.
Now, with the reworked Piercing Shot both arrow types are even better to use, Bakriminel Bolts are still pretty solid GP for a Daily.
I think the only downside comes from the Corehammer, which doesn't work on all rocks (such as Crystal and Red Sandstone Mines).
Lastly, the Artificer's Measure is a Staple Slayer Inventory Item, it's basically an Upgraded Gem Bag and should be on every slayer Preset.
All XP rates and such are just a secondary, at least for me.
protoxx getting ready for these to jump in price after his video ahha
Went from 100,000,000 GP to 100,000,001.
📈 Business is Booming!
The artificers measure is a pain to make but well worth it if making a lot of flasks at crafting portables and the Fyrtorch is really useful for Croesus and BGH. Used to also be good for Baks when they were actually worth doing.
They're mentioned on the bis lists on many skill guides + croesus, I think it's odd to state no one is talking about them. Virtually everyone I run into in priff has them.
For how good they are I don't see them being talked about enough / there doesn't seem to be a lot of info on these out there. Perhaps because it's skilling related and not pvm related like animate dead.
I get it but when's the last time you saw a Reddit posts about Skilling offhands?
I absolutely love these items. But I'm embarrassed to say that sometimes I forget to use them 😅
I don't think anyone is talking about these because they're a pain in the ass to get. The Coesus off hands are rare drops and both worth roughly 100m.
The measure is the worst offender. I created a blessed flask, which has pretty similar crafting requirements and materials. The flask is great, but I simply can't recommend it to anyone else because making the damn thing is such an unfun ordeal that feels more like a soul-crushing job than a valuable equipment upgrade. I have to assume the measure is similar.
As someone who owns both, i agree and can confirm your statement.
Can't imagine making a second (let alone 10) Blessed flask.
I should basically need to live off of people's Tips and Sponsorships as a RuneScape streamer in order for me to push myself through that process ever again.
I would like to add a fact regarding Artificer's Measure: If you own multiple versions of it, they share the same gem storage and its capacity. In other words, if you have two of them you will still be able to carry max 100 of each gem , not 200.
This was a huge disappointment when I finished my second measure (to make gem mining more afk) on my ironman.
Lol. That's hilarious.
Gem bag always work like that, tbf , mostly of the store things in this game works like that because the storage interface are bonded to your acc not on the item itself.
@@giovaniu1528 Yeah, I had this thought in the back of my mind. I still thought it was worth the risk though and no regrets
Wish they were augmentable, still useful. I feel like they should be comp requirements, at least the 2 craftables
You might also have mentioned the brooch that makes portables triger more often when using them.
Yea I noticed this when I went to make my artificers measure a few months ago couldn’t really find anything about it on TH-cam and really only what I needed to make it on the wiki
Thanks for making the price on these sky rocket lol
I genuinely forgot about the measure's effects due to being 99 in construction but will definitely try to remember to use it when building that new player fort. edit: or not lol. Going to wear it anyway!
I've got all 4 of these, wouldn't be without them.
I'm pretty sure Shauny had completely made a set of offhands as well, before he left.
Maybe necromancy will add some more
Welp. I bought the sana's frytorch for 294mil, and it's fking amazing, with the juju woodcutting....im literally racking in money and already made the money back. Holy fk
I hate how everything seems to be only for those who've already maxed. Which then, why bother unless you're going for 120? Who are these items for?
I vouch for making them augmentable EVEN tho i’m sure that would b kinda op considering what they already offer butttttt y not at this point
From when I was working on 99 construction the artificers measure worked with construction contracts, and that was maybe 1 year ago? Maybe they changed something, or it’s bugged!
I just checked it myself on a couple contracts, and it still procs the effect. It procced on one for bob's axes in lumby, but when doing the exact contract he did in the video, it did not proc, likely due to the plank amounts for the different things being made
nooo I'm building one atm and now protox will raise the material costs :')
Not specifically the items from this video. But the general Jagex way: nice item which gives you couple of % -> i.e Requirement x skill lvl 116. (Or requires another skill lvl ~99, but levelling that skill requires antoher skill, etc, etc). which Personally I dont like to level one skill 100+ just because I get couple of %. So. Booster items are nice, but when you can get them, finally they alll became pointless. Or some item just cost about 200m. Fresh account? Bonds? Aaaaaaa... yeah...... A less boring gameplay should be supported. Like If you levelling roughly all skill at the same time, rather than lvl one just to get something. So putting something behind 100+ Invention requirement is so pointless because most of the players reached 99 in the skill they want to support. I would be fine even with -20% exp. That 1-2 extra gameplay doesnt really matter.
What was the music track being played around 2:30
Spirit - Runescape ost
Few people talk about them as they are rather obnoxious to make (personally plan to make the measure but put off by the material requirements)
The other buyables (if not ironman) are a choice that you have to decide if its worth the money just for the effects
XP boosts from these items are not worth anything IMO your mileage may vary
i have the 2 main offhands the untradable ones and the mining one
Didn't realize the core hammer even existed...
now you do :)
i mean...everyone who does Croesus on the FC knows
bor is merching items again...
Thank u for reminding me to sell fyrtorch haha. Thx g
^^ yw man
Do we really need to talk about skilling offhands when we already know how strong they are for their skills tho
watching ur videos make me wanna play runescpae but unfortuately i sold my computer and im a business owner i barely have time for anything.. i barely sleep.. ur videos keep me in the loop
I respect the hussle man. You should try to get some better sleep if u can, without it you won't be able to keep up long term 🙏🏻🙏🏻
I have them all they are great
I have most of them except one lock behind quest 😢
Another reason to not ignore your quests.
Honestly, once you have your Master Quest Cape, you can do virtually everything in the game.
Sometimes i feel like another JMod thanks to that fact.
People arent talking about these because you're all PVM addicts...
I'm a killer and every single skilled I know is very well aware of the skilling off-hands :P
Most PVM'ers are one trick ponies tho. They're not experts at this game.
They don't know nothing about Lore, Efficient Skilling or Clue Scrolls Completion, Don't have Comp/Trim Cape (let alone master), and their Runescore is laughable at best. Aahhh but they can do 2,000% Solo Zamorak and that's about it.
It's rare to see Comped Players, Trimmed Even, with QPC (let alone MQC) and Max Runescore with Golden Clue Scroll Titles. I can, honestly, count them with only one hand.
@@Kranon To be fair... This game's grinds are soo long, the more you spread your self out, the longer it takes to finish anything, so I do get it.
Why would anyone talk about a random item in the game
wow, never been this early
I usually upload later than this, that's why :)
I would be lost without these items. Exceedingly helpful!
Shame there isn't lower tier items like that
Third bronze Olympics
After 5000 Hours ... I've done much in this game but realizing I have at least another 10,000 to go...... I'm looking for a new game XD
And that, I'm assuming is without unlocking the Quest Cape (let alone MQC), Comp Cape (let alone trim), and with something like 18K Runescore total.
Just wait until you get the brilliant idea of chasing the clue scroll titles, haha, biggest time sink in the game.
@@Kranon Exactly... Its a fun game but it's not that fun lol
Played for a good 2 year's Iron man
Lets make a vid to push up prices on these items so i can sell the ones ive got as drops 💀👀
Sell them for what? Chump change?
Those are rookie numbers, pump 'em up!
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