Joe is a true master rotary engine builder. Everything seems so simple and straight forward. He know exactly what his is doing and it shows. A pleasure to watch him work. Great video guys.
This was the last car build related video I saw with my dad before he passed away. We loved watching this kind of content all they way back in golden era of Spike TV (Horsepower TV) and Speed channel. Thank you Speed Academy boys, we really enjoyed it.
I love these motors, I think the only scary part about rebuilding them would be the apex seals and all the little intricate pieces. Besides that they are fairly simple. Wish this design was added onto by other manufacturers. If many companies joined in and many iterations were made, this could of been a spectacular modern engine.
I know you guys are unsure about the direction to take your channel, but I like it just the way it is. Too bad the zoomer crowd is where the money is on TH-cam!
SirBernard I’m a zoomer and I love cars. I must admit, if it wasn’t for a millenial I would probably have stuck to video games. My point is there is still hope for zoomer car-lovers.
Recently you guys asked about what you should do with your channel -- this kind of content is awesome and interesting and pretty different than a lot of high quality channels (many seem to cater to car noobs basically). Infact you guys might run a poll on the experience level of your viewers, I think that would be pretty interesting. I imagine most are like me, which is "Have pulled some engines or swapped a clutch, etc, but haven't hand-built an engine"
The first video I found of you guys was the Rotary engine build which I believe also had Joe in it. It made me really want to buy up broken rotarys and rebuild them in the future when I get a good job and a garage to work in lol.
Great stuff gents...really makes me want to track down an RX7 (used to have an 83 GSL) to switch things up from the BMW straight 6. Great project, looking forward to the next installment!
Really enjoyed the video really good job on the work I think on your new oil pan , the sump pump seems high if you have extra oil it technically would run cooler but the coldest point would be on the lowest point of the oil pan and also if you didn't have enough oil and or burned to much oil the presser would drop wouldn't you want the sump pump to be lower ? Closer to the bottom of the oil pan ??
I'm curious to know if they locked the ring gear in by cutting an id groove on the rotor counter bore, and od groove in the gear. As per racing beat guide lines. Thanks.
I'm intrigued by that engine...i can't even imagine how a 4-rotor version would go together...like how long are the studs for that? also there is a tool that looks like a "dog bone" that would work for torquing those oil pump bolts. instead of the open end of the crows foot, it's the closed end of a box wrench. great video guys💪
Don’t see myself building a rotary but it’s still really interesting plan on buying a anywhere from an O2 mini Cooper S to a 2009 mini Cooper S that needs major engine work maybe even a rebuild just to do it love it
I'm certainly no expert, but the corner seals looked to be upside down. Also, how were the corner seals installed on the other side of each rotor if they weren't in place as the rotor was put in the housing?
@@turbos4fc3s the rotors aren't the problem vargus brothers(angel motorsports) have customers that have side clearanced them and used them, the structure of the housing is what im worried about they wont get 10k rpm reliably because the rotors arent prepped right thats a given, but 9.2 is possible if the tuner is good
Nothing really happens, is just easier to install in that direction. If you noticed, on the first rotors, the corners on the apex seals are towards the primary port, and the corners on the apex are towards the secondary port on the second rotor.
I realized that with this series the intro with Ken's FD is spot on 👌 I like how easy it looks for somebody that is used to those engines, but we know that this is experience speaking. Hours and hours and hundreds of engines after. This one is gonna breathe, just with the ratchet it pulses good. Imagine with sparky sparky and fuely fuely together 😎
other method of doing apex seal is using super glue to stick 2 piece together the clean up both side of seal, stick both spring and seal all together, i reckon the method in video can used in 12a and rew but not renesis lol
I’m coming due for a rebuild on my renesis from my 11 R3. I was wondering what you have to do to orient the rotors for timing and how precise you have to be. It’s seems like people just estimate when they’re doing final assembly lol. I’m trying to mentally prepare for my process.
Hey Charles, there is no orientation of the rotors necessary other than the gear side of the rotor facing the gear in the corresponding iron. The eshaft sets the orientation of one rotor in relation to the other due to its lobes. Just take your time and make sure you spec everything out. Best of luck!
rotors were installed backwards unless it was intensional to not take advantage of the standard scallops which just open the intake ports slightly sooner
How are the rotors aligned? I know he said 1 points to 12 and the 2nd 1 to 6... but is this 100% dead center 12...are there dowels that align the rotor...can you put 1 rotor at 12 and the other at 3? I couldn't understand this on the video. Thanks
@The Kyle Sutherland They used modified RX8 rotors which are already lighter and higher compression, they could've done some lightening but it wouldn't be too significant. I think more important would be a proper balancing of the rotating assembly.
To all the rotary heads, if you put premix in the fuel, how does it cope with e85 ? i'm assuming it's a lot more frequent oil changes compared to a piston engine ?
The Valvoline original motor oil moments are the best advertisements I've seen for Valvoline, love them! Keep killing it guys!
This awesome. Zero comments on the Valvoline adds? Literally gold.
The format with that is actually pretty entertaining. If there must be ads, keep it fun.
Yeah I mean you honestly can’t argue with good oil though if they were sponsored by like STP then maybe you’d hear complaining 😂
Bookmarking this.
Oh me oh my what could this mean?
K all day!
It's so funny that so many of us all install the Apex seals so differently different approach but same outcome but just so different 😎
Joe is a true master rotary engine builder. Everything seems so simple and straight forward. He know exactly what his is doing and it shows. A pleasure to watch him work. Great video guys.
Your channel is, by far, the best put together and informative auto enthusiast channel in the internet and on TV. Keep up the great work!.
100% agree mate.. No bullshit
Brave man sticking his bare hand in Dave's vaseline jar.
Wife walked by during the valvoline skit, said Pete looks like the Pringle’s man and Dave looks like Alan from the Hangover 😂😂😂
Pete is doing himself a great disservice by not actually growing and rocking a 'stache like that.
I love the valvoline skits! One day I’m going own a rotary powered car one day and I will use these videos as a guide. Lots of great information.
This is absolutely awesome to watch! For someone who worked many types of motors the rotary motors have always been astonishing to me.
I was not expecting this video so soon! Especially in Canada where they use metric time (it weighs less than an American minute).
How can one slap someone through high speed internet ?
:D
This was the last car build related video I saw with my dad before he passed away. We loved watching this kind of content all they way back in golden era of Spike TV (Horsepower TV) and Speed channel. Thank you Speed Academy boys, we really enjoyed it.
I enjoy the original moment. Thank you guys. You having fun is great!!!!!!
I love these motors, I think the only scary part about rebuilding them would be the apex seals and all the little intricate pieces. Besides that they are fairly simple. Wish this design was added onto by other manufacturers. If many companies joined in and many iterations were made, this could of been a spectacular modern engine.
watching rotary vids on this channel makes me want to build one, dont even have a mazda to put it in, just seems fun building. awesome vid as always
I've been waiting for a brap build ever since you guys were in the old shop working on Ken's Rx-7!
ngl I'm kinda loving the ad you guys are doing for valvoline
Valvoline should seriously run ads with you guys on TV. Those skits are too good.
Great series. I’ve always assumed it would be so much more complicated.
I know you guys are unsure about the direction to take your channel, but I like it just the way it is. Too bad the zoomer crowd is where the money is on TH-cam!
Are zoomers even interested in cars?
SirBernard Only as a way to make them look cool 🤣
SirBernard I’m a zoomer and I love cars. I must admit, if it wasn’t for a millenial I would probably have stuck to video games. My point is there is still hope for zoomer car-lovers.
If you ain't zooming you're booming.
I am really enjoying this build, never been a rotary man so this is like learning a foreign language, super interesting! Thanks guys!!
Gotta say - the music at the 12 second mark and 9:40 are pretty good. The build is coming along! Keep up the good work!
What is it? Its brilliant
@@chrisbradley8162 The first few second clip is called Juno, by Oliver Michael. Not sure about the second yet yet.
I've really enjoyed this series. Thank you.
Recently you guys asked about what you should do with your channel -- this kind of content is awesome and interesting and pretty different than a lot of high quality channels (many seem to cater to car noobs basically). Infact you guys might run a poll on the experience level of your viewers, I think that would be pretty interesting. I imagine most are like me, which is "Have pulled some engines or swapped a clutch, etc, but haven't hand-built an engine"
You’ve seen a crows foot wrench. We’ve all seen it. It’s the thing you look at briefly and say “I’d never need to use that”
I just happened to catch him say “blow a head gasket” ☺️ we all knew what he meant though… Great video!
Love the power fist indicator gauge! Princess Auto for the win!
Great move replacing the oil pan, original tends to leak. Upgraded engine mounts was an option as well.
Interesting seeing how you build these rotary engines. Never seen one apart like this. So cool!
The first video I found of you guys was the Rotary engine build which I believe also had Joe in it. It made me really want to buy up broken rotarys and rebuild them in the future when I get a good job and a garage to work in lol.
That rotor build series is just the best! love it so much and it motivating to keep with my own projects!
Keep up the great videos guys. Bought a hat from your merch store the other day. Nothing crazy but want to support you guys!
very satisfying watching you guys assembling this 13b rotory motor. really enjoyed that thank you.
super keen to see the tach and hear the engine going past 10k on this build
Love it, bringing someone on reminds me of Moose with the celica episodes
Awesome music in this build series! My favorite across any of the series, even though so many others were so good!
Its youtube music to prevent a copy strike lol. But I agree with you its great music
Great stuff gents...really makes me want to track down an RX7 (used to have an 83 GSL) to switch things up from the BMW straight 6. Great project, looking forward to the next installment!
Loving this series! Good references in case I decide on a rotary project.
Nice work guys! These rotary engines are so cool!
I love the valvoline skit guys!!
Loving this series. I can't wait to hear it run!
Incredible series so far guys!
I thought you guys were giving up TH-cam. Sooo happy your not.
The Evo is just sitting back there teasing us!
correct me if im wrong putting the crows foot straight not 90 degrees from the torque wrench gives a different torque spec.
This. To avoid measuring and calculating, always put crows foot on torque wrench at 90 degrees.
You are correct.
I'm very excited to see the finished results!
Great vid! love this series!
Another great series complete! hope this one get's you guys a few more subscribers
joes tools give away the fact he's Canadian lol. i love it.
Can’t wait for you guys to be back!!
You had me at making sure your iron is clean to apply some vaseline to it 😉😂😂👌
Really enjoyed the video really good job on the work
I think on your new oil pan , the sump pump seems high if you have extra oil it technically would run cooler but the coldest point would be on the lowest point of the oil pan and also if you didn't have enough oil and or burned to much oil the presser would drop wouldn't you want the sump pump to be lower ? Closer to the bottom of the oil pan ??
The Valvoline ads are awesome
I'm curious to know if they locked the ring gear in by cutting an id groove on the rotor counter bore, and od groove in the gear. As per racing beat guide lines. Thanks.
Nice job guys, great build
Nice series guys!
Great stuff! Dave, have you been slimming down? I sense a competition between Gears and Gasoline and Speed Academy ;)
You should get a set of crows foot spanners heads / sockets, very useful 👍
I'm intrigued by that engine...i can't even imagine how a 4-rotor version would go together...like how long are the studs for that? also there is a tool that looks like a "dog bone" that would work for torquing those oil pump bolts. instead of the open end of the crows foot, it's the closed end of a box wrench. great video guys💪
Awesome content guys. Love it.
Don’t see myself building a rotary but it’s still really interesting plan on buying a anywhere from an O2 mini Cooper S to a 2009 mini Cooper S that needs major engine work maybe even a rebuild just to do it love it
How often do you have to premix now that you have the block off plate? Really informative video
cant wait for part 4
That eshaft counterweight looks pretty interesting. I wonder if it's balanced with the rest of the rotating assembly.
can’t wait to start a rotary project now
Tks. Guys good work 13BREW !
If the rotors are a 180 degrees out of phase and there is a counterweight on the front, is there an opposite counterweight on the back?
I'm certainly no expert, but the corner seals looked to be upside down. Also, how were the corner seals installed on the other side of each rotor if they weren't in place as the rotor was put in the housing?
The corner seal is only on one side
@@RETMTM no there is corner seals on both sides
He knows what he was doing
Joe doing his thing! 👍🏻👏🏻
Great video! But 10,000 rpm build. Correct me if I'm wrong but I thought to safely run 10,000 rpm you needed clearanced rotors?
I've given up they say they want to do high boost and didnt solid dowel it
@@jaredspratley6270 high boost?? They are using rx8 rotors..
@@turbos4fc3s the rotors aren't the problem vargus brothers(angel motorsports) have customers that have side clearanced them and used them, the structure of the housing is what im worried about they wont get 10k rpm reliably because the rotors arent prepped right thats a given, but 9.2 is possible if the tuner is good
Lightening and balancing of the rotating assembly goes a long way towards enabling 10,000 RPM.
Fantastic video!
Yeah, the valvoline ads are funny👍
sorry if i missed this but what would happen if you installed both the apex seals pointing the same way as opposed to opposite directions?
Nothing really happens, is just easier to install in that direction.
Nothing really happens, is just easier to install in that direction. If you noticed, on the first rotors, the corners on the apex seals are towards the primary port, and the corners on the apex are towards the secondary port on the second rotor.
I realized that with this series the intro with Ken's FD is spot on 👌
I like how easy it looks for somebody that is used to those engines, but we know that this is experience speaking. Hours and hours and hundreds of engines after. This one is gonna breathe, just with the ratchet it pulses good. Imagine with sparky sparky and fuely fuely together 😎
outstanding motor
other method of doing apex seal is using super glue to stick 2 piece together the clean up both side of seal, stick both spring and seal all together, i reckon the method in video can used in 12a and rew but not renesis lol
I’m coming due for a rebuild on my renesis from my 11 R3. I was wondering what you have to do to orient the rotors for timing and how precise you have to be. It’s seems like people just estimate when they’re doing final assembly lol. I’m trying to mentally prepare for my process.
Hey Charles, there is no orientation of the rotors necessary other than the gear side of the rotor facing the gear in the corresponding iron. The eshaft sets the orientation of one rotor in relation to the other due to its lobes. Just take your time and make sure you spec everything out. Best of luck!
Looks great
What happens with the evo?
Interesting vid guys, thanks!
Using a maximum torque wrench for a motor rebuild? I used mastercraft on mine hahaha ! Any idea if you can calibrate those?
rotors were installed backwards unless it was intensional to not take advantage of the standard scallops which just open the intake ports slightly sooner
What is the first tune on this video? Its sick
Hey Dave theres that track show on yt looking for a co.host. do ittttt you're the best bro. Ive got a stash of mint SCC and modified
What happened to the old broken internals? If you still have them could we buy them to support the channel? Same with parts off the evo?
Enjoying these
really enjoyed this
Nice, some quality autotube.
How are the rotors aligned? I know he said 1 points to 12 and the 2nd 1 to 6... but is this 100% dead center 12...are there dowels that align the rotor...can you put 1 rotor at 12 and the other at 3? I couldn't understand this on the video.
Thanks
Learned a lot!
even the Vargas brothers don't show how the apex springs work, nice
@The Kyle Sutherland
They used modified RX8 rotors which are already lighter and higher compression, they could've done some lightening but it wouldn't be too significant. I think more important would be a proper balancing of the rotating assembly.
The last owner was using the same builder and had it balanced, just didn't show us
Love this
It looks like the Xcessive 13B REW Oil Pans are no longer available. Too bad. Looks like a great design.
Hopefully you are getting good revenue because TH-cam is making me watch 12 adds during this video (6 doubles).
Thank god they're easy to assemble, it has to be done more than once a week lol
@@jordanremsen2295
the joke
your head
YES! Keeping the Rotary alive. Now don’t put the ugly stock water pump on it. Use big boy injectors and keep mucho boost on tap.
Nice work!
sweet oil pan!
To all the rotary heads, if you put premix in the fuel, how does it cope with e85 ? i'm assuming it's a lot more frequent oil changes compared to a piston engine ?
You need to test the premix oil in e85 to check for separation.