THE RENESIS - Ported RX8 Engine Buildup
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- This REC video is of an assembly that one of our USA customers asked for. REC offers assembly videos as an option to all
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6k subscribers and 6k views.....that's when you know that this is a one of a kind channel.
*A rotard channel?*
Good to know you use 09 parts ! My renesis was streetported and oil modifications done by your shop! Running strong on a Greddy turbo kit thank you all!
I can respect that you're all about the customer and making sure they are happy. Great vid keep them coming 👌👍
Yup planning to film more regularly. Just so busy but glad you like the customer vid too
As a HONDA Master Technician, I was pleased to see you use HONDABOND on your rotor housing assembly......it shows me you guys know what your doing and have high standards........great videos.........! ! !......
agm365 i gag when i hear the word “honda”.. too many fukbois ruined the brand..
Thanks!!
What is the stuff..just curious. If I don't ask I wouldn't know
12:09 I've been a victim of garbage jobs on my '88 RX7. I know how it feels! Micha is lucky that you're working on that engine!...👍
Sorry to hear you had some bad luck. Here to help anytime
@@rx7specialties203
Thanks bro, looking forward to buy products for you in the future...👍
I used to have a few rx7s, I am pretty impressed...
I never tire of watching someone bolt something as interesting as a rotary engine together, it has just made me want to get one now!
Thanks for enjoying our content!
Even if rotaries break down frequently, I still find them fascinating and it's interesting to see how they're built. Good vid 👍
Maintenance and premix is key to keeping a rotary reliable and healthy 👍
Mines 15 years old now never had a rebuild 👍
Key is as said maintenance and premix these engines can be great and last if correctly taken care of and built properly
You know I've been a really big fan of your shop, ever since I first seen your red FD on modified mag, I think over 10 years ago. Just wanted to say I really appreciate shops like yours and the work you guys do.
Thanks for the support
I find it very exciting. I rebuilt my '74 13B for my RX4. Very exciting!
I quite enjoyed this customer focused video. It is very informative and great video to watch.
glad you liked it
wish i could build rotaries for a living like you do
Thanks
i used to, worked at mazda north america in jacksonville fl rebuilding rotories for mazda dealers, we did them all, rx4, 3 and 7s. it was an awesome time.
DEEREMEYER1 'ive never touched a rotary'
You lost any sense of credibility you were trying to establish withthat line. I suppose peripheral porting doesnt help make more power either.... fruitcake.
Love your videos, Do more videos like this. I don't think it is boring. Very neat to watch. Love the Rotary. Such an interesting design and engine.
Glad you like them, more on the way soon
Nice i like the way you include the customer in his engine build..
I guess that new parts cost a pretty penny, here in South Africa if you tell a customer he needs new housings he either run away or has to go rob a bank!😥
More pleasant build than 4 cylinder conventional engine, thank you!
Your welcome
damn talk about getting down to the heart of the matter
What kind of power do you typically see out of motors in this configuration. And what about rpm.
Can you put rx7 rotor housings onto the rx8 irons? Then custom make a exhaust manifold to the five exhaust ports. You could even have semi pp housings to increase inlet flow as well. Would that make the best flowing motor for a turbo upgrade?
Man i wish you werent all the way in canada. Im about to pull my rx8 engine with blown coolant seals and i really dont know if i wanna undertake the rebuild myself.
I found this video very exciting.
thank you
Wish I still had my RX-8
I know where I'm bringing my dream car when I get her :D
Did you get it yet?? 🤷♂️🤣
Hey man i noticed you didn't use any vaseline or lubricant on the housings of the rotor, if you didn't it's much suggested so it doesn't start up dry for the first time and messes with the corner and apex seals, even if you put a bit on the seals it's better to put vaseline all around the dorito and housings, it won't harm the engine at all and the excess vaseline will burn off
Awesome vid boys👌🏻👌🏻 would love to see how you machine a motor like the full Bridge and studded motor you showed the assembly of previously 👍🏻
Funny you should ask about that cuz its coming real soon
I'm curious how the oil and water flows through the engine, like how the channels are designed; and if there's any improvement that could be done.
Fantastic thank you.
Your welcome
I wanna know how much something like this for an rx8 costs
Hey you forgot to degree the cam in
Great video ;) How much torque did you use in the torque rench at the end to tighten the bolts? Also related to the rx7 fd oil pressure regulator, does it need customization to fit the renesis 13b? and i guess it has nothing to do with the OMP and the pressure for spraying the rotors with oil... or does it?
Bearings go out because the weight of the rotors and not balancing them so they hit plate and wear the bearings out
How much for that kind of work
How much for the build? Great job by the way
Im not sure if you answered this before but for the diy guy. I just opened my motor. It looks great over all. What in wondering is. What has to be done to the iron/flat surfaces. And what had to be done to the housings. Im assume when u put it back together u dont want it shiny. What shoukd i use just a very light sand paper or Scotch-Brite pad...ect. Basically what im asking is what has to be done to prep the parts before Assembly.
Side housings require lapping and we offer rotor housing chrome refinishing. This information can be found in many of the videos found on our channel
@Honey BBQ Sauce yah i poasted that a year ago.... thank you tho. i got them refinished by Rotary Resurrection. been running great! have a greddy turbo to go on, hopefully by end of summer.
Opinion on putting a PP exhaust on the housings? Or using GSLSE housings?
Awesome video and thank you for all the details!
We along with many others have used the SE housings in combination with the factory exhaust ports. Sadly, on an aspirated application not much was noticed, however when turbo charging there are significant gains. Ideally, using just the peripheral exhaust would be best.
Does the fd regular screw straight in or is it different thread
What is that red stuff in that bottle?
Assembly lube
sick vid, an absolute pleasure to watch.. how much power would a build like this make? any ruff cost out of interest.. not that i have any money...
How did you modify the second gen oil ports to work with the first gen oiling system? I have a full second gen engine with 16K miles, what would I need to modify to use it in my 2004 RX-8 (besides the front, rear and pan sections)? Is the crank the same between the two versions?
Walter Scott go to rx8 club
So thats where all the Renesis engines went....Canada!
HAHA
Thx for the vids, want more :P
More to come soon
Hi, don't you have to put the external water seals on the housing?
Do you guys stil do this or no i just got an rx8 and im about to tear it down to rebuild let me know
In the future I hope you can build me my engine
Make sure you put customers name on engine oil FML
I have a question. The outside of my rear plate broke and I ended up taking my rear rotor out just for checkup. But I want to know if there’s any timing or if I took the rotor out of timing. Or can I just place the rotor in the exact same way it was
Nice!
You should add a counter for how many times the word port comes by, also in words like imPORTant etc :P
Was it worth the shipping and cost?
Your thoughts on dimples instead of polish porting
Both work
I feel like ppl who get a rotary dont know anything about em so they blow, but I've seen high hp rx7s daily driven no problems but jesus they are soo much gotdaum work and extra shit you gotta know, I mean I did blow my 12a but I was young, stupid and didnt know anything. I will own another one tho forsure
Hey great videos mate, there's just one step of the process I don't get, @12:34 you else the Apex seals in and out of all the sides then continue assembly, why do you do this. Thanks much!
It is to straighten off the corner seals because the corner seal spin out of alignment
when you use the 09 rotor housings in an 04 engine do you drill and tap the missing oil pan bolt hole? or just RTV the shit out of it?
Drill....tapp and supply the new bolt. You make me laugh Josh...keep it coming
Eu sou do Brasil e nos aqui no Brasil não temos esse motor, mais queríamos saber mais sobre este motor , por favor faz mais vídeos explicando tudosobre este motor
Hi guys is it possible to make a 12a turbo 3 rotor with RX8 end plates????
But the Renisis is designed to be modular, IE: adding more center plates and making a new crankshaft.
No it absolutely is not, nor is any other 13B engine. The only multiple rotor engines that you see or read about are engines that people have chosen to customize to accommodate the additional rotors
Could you buida a 4 Roger off i wan’t a 4 Rotary engien wen i live in California
Do you know if anyone has tried electroless nickle boron plated on roots or housings? Thanks for a great channel
Not sure why you'd apply that to rotors and although products like this can be engineered to be applied to the rotor housing, machining it off accurately after requires a diamond wheel and a CNC ID grinder. Very pricey process.
@@rx7specialties203 I've been looking at coating the nickle boron is self lubricating and gets harder around 70 Rockwell it machines well but if you use the electroless process you can control thickness to a high degree. I know nikasil is simaler and would only respond to diamond hones there are also some coatings at techline that might be good on rotors they use it a lot on diesel piston tops and it's applied with an airbrush. I'm with you though if I had my own milling machine you could do like the do with motorcycle bores they remove any plating weld and gouged etc. Do a cleanup boring the they no basil the bore or there are so many other products now I'd like to try DFM is what I think they call it. Check it out maybe it will be something good for rotory thanks for the great channel. Rob
Hello
I would need three RX7 perimeter bands with three springs, you can
ship?
How much?
Thanks and regards
Carlo Florence
what is your general thought on the Renesis vs 13B REW and earlier 13B on the FC. Thanks
REW is much better for power
How much should it cost to have the apex groves cut larger, and balancing done?
Please inquire pricing through email if you dont mind
Where can i buy the rebuild kit rx8 At a good price?
Right here Rotaryengine.com
Have you a price( approximately ) for Northern Ireland, British country?
Bobby Thompson look up rotary revs on facebook
I feel I should point out you showed Michah's phone number when you showed the work order. Might want to tape that section off next time.
Yeah and the price too, wow expensive!
That's about what I would expect for a performance rebuild but yeah, rotary engines are expensive toys. If you want to know if it was worth it you know who to call to ask.
Yup good point. I didnt catch it myself but crossing it out with a marker to be safe is an excellent idea
Again that wasnt supposed to show but this guy got alot more then just the engine.
how much did it say it was?
nice video as usual!what lube you use for the bearings?
Amsoil
How many horse power gain?
Why Rx8 engine not sounds like a normal Rx7 engine?
Side port exhaust
What would be the max power I could get out of my 30k 04 rx-8 keeping it n/a because I have been thinking and rotor engine swap to turbo
Bradley Rorabaugh 215 whp
How much for rebuild
hi ther i gotta arsk how much HP Can you get out of The 1gen renesis 231.. and staying on the safe side of relaebillaty ? 😅
Daniel Kongsgaard 400hp crank
like the build a lot, but why are the plates not cnc ported, on your biggest assembly video you tell us that cnc porting is the way. Not that i doubt that you guys do a fenomenal job handporting, sure. but why not cnc, it seems better to me.
we did not have the port program when we filmed this video
on those oil mods.. do you have to upgrade the old pump at all? or is that just stock?
stock
What are the benefits to the 09+ housings?
Nothing besides the extra oil inj hole if one can make use of it. We use them on all year builds none the less
I'd love to get some work done on my rx8 by you guys, where's your shop located?
Calgary Canada
Porting does nothing on renesis engines. People keep saying the exhaust ports are restrictive(they are not restrictive) the problem of power limits is exh port timing.. No overlap no scavenging..
What oil do you guys recommend using for the renesis?
We use Amsoil 5/20
what does the Vaseline do on the ends of the apex seals?
it is protection in case the small end piece pops off
Thank you for your reply :).
Hey I need a bridge port and I live in Utah could you guys do it?
Yes but not on Renesis engines as bridge porting on side port exhaust engines does not offer the gains that it does on peripheral exhaust engines
I just wanna know what is the red liquid that are using on the housings?????
Do you mean the brand or it's purpose? Brand doesn't really matter as long as it's good assembly lube.
I guess I'll add in case you don't know. It's assembly lube, cause when you start a brand new engine it can take a second or two for the oil from the pan to get to the components that need it, so you use a thick oil-like lube that sticks to the components and provides the essential lubrication they need until the oil gets there, otherwise you'd destroy your brand new engine components!
DEEREMEYER1 Jesus Christ man I gave the guy a quick explanation cause that's all that was needed, calm down
I guess thats why none of the 800 engines we built never had any of the issues you speak of?? But I understand....people who arent experts themselves need to take the time to show they are good at criticizing and writing novels on YT
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You are in eastern canada? My buddy keeps saying I need to put a 2 rotor in my fiero lol.
Calgary
@@rx7specialties203 crazy just a few hrs away lol. I'm up in northern alberta.
Who’s stupid idea was it to use the plates for exhaust ports duuuur it’s hot . Can you bridge port those ports “ no they would break due too heat for sure
what is the torque plis
33 ft/lbs
thans man
Side seales mazda oem?
Cut to fit but made by Mazda yes
is that last generation engine right ?
NİKOLA TESLA yeap
The Renesis is yes...this was a combo of the Gen 1 and Gen 2 RX8
I’m going to have you Bridgeport my rx8 motor soon I will be contacting you very soon.
Where u guys located so I can order one for mine
Calgary Canada
How do you know where each rotor should sit in relation to each other in their combustion cycles? If that makes sense to anyone 🤣🤣
Only goes one way
Where are you guys located?
Calgary Canada and we do wordwide shipping
I have always loved my 04 rx8 my first one was totaled by a drunk driver that flipped it over on 95..i waited 14 years to get another one I have a 09 speed 3 as well I daily drive my 04 that has 77,000 on it and someone replaced the engine at some point when before i got it I did my little mods to keep it running well new plugs coils and seals on the intake ports. some time in the future I would love to have a newer rebuilt engine installed .you can see my pictures on Facebook but I don't advertise much I just enjoy the car with hundreds of Complaments I am sure keeps the Mazda world kicking hit me up sometime to let me know the cost of doing it the right way as I see in your video thanks for your time..hgordon@malloyford in alexandria
Hi, I have a 2005 shinka which i would like polished can you reach out on the contact information.
End of the video has all contact information
Forgive my ignorance, but why vaseline?
It is merely to hold the O ring in place and will disintegrate as soon as the engine heats up
You need to scribe the name
😲
why didnt u lap the new centre plate when we all know that the factory finish is crap from the factory?
Because its brand new. Who told you the finish is crap? Incorrect. Lapping restores to factory finish. You cannot get better then that.
RX7 Specialties High guys excellent work BTW!!! Sorry for dumb question but I've owned 2 Rx8's in the past and I loved the factory engine, please reply! What power increase over the stock 230ish would Micah's build level see? I understand most mods were for longevity and reliability but I'm super curious about HP gains and even more impressed with your company and workmanship! Thanks
Work for Mazda so seen how bad they are, extreme rotaries are the best in the biz, go look at factory to proper plate surface after rohans served his magic
this Doorbell drives me crazy
Haha its was the neighbors bell. I know annoying
how much to rebuild my rx8 stock engine?
Prentice Brown probably close to 3-4k you can get a crate engine for that price
Hi There,
Where are you guys located... can i get an address. I am in Toronto, Canada.
Calgary, AB. Full address is on the website www.rotaryengine.com
To one MAZDA RX7
how can I get in touch with you my rx8 2007 needs to be rebuilt. I am in San Diego can you help?
sure thing adam@rotaryengine.com
U talking abt different subjects and doing different stuff!! What’s the point!?!
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Cringed while watching you use a torque wrench.
Thought I was the only one!
why? just curious...
He's being pretty quick about it, and clearly going past the click. Maybe it wasn't final torque, but still, not the kind of thing you wanna rush
It's a pro mechanic thing. He does this all the time. You get use to it. I had guys complain that I prepped cars way to fast and I couldn't be doing a proper job before paint yet the finishes always came out perfect and with no overspray at all where it had been masked.