The case of the Black Dahlia is STILL unsolved! Hollywood sacrifice?
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- Elizabeth Short - The Black Dahlia MURD3R!
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Yey. I was waiting for this all day. Thank you ......
Karine, the pictures you have for the Doctors daughter is actually pictures of Michelle Phillips from one of my favorite singing group " The Mamas and the Papas" That is not the evil doctor's daughter.
Even when Elizabeth smiles, her eyes look very sad.
Very haunting
Yes they do.
It boils my blood that this is how Elizabeth will always be remembered and i cannot and do not want to image her last cluster of memories before she passed.. NO OME deserves a disgusting death like this and i hate that her killer never got punished
Yeah it's horrible that her killer never was punished
completely agree with everything you have said. Even giving her, her name back is a sign of respect poor girl.
I had read that the way she was cut in half was consistent with a specific surgical technique known only to doctors at the time; so I definitely think it was Hodel. Also, if I'm not mistaken, Hodel's son pointed out in his book that the way ES' corpse was displayed mirrors an image in one of his father's favorite artist's paintings. This artist and Hodel were close friends; and Hodel's son believes ES's murder was his father's malevolent tribute to his friend; giving "life" to his friend's art. So yeah, I'm with you on this one Karine; Hodel did it.
Yes, I remember watching on dateline. The way her arms were outstretched and posed was like the art piece.
Wow I’ve heard many people cover the story but never heard those details 😯
@@Likelyfairyexactly. I've been fascinated with her since learning of her in my younger years. Never heard of this theory
The way those reporters trifled with Elizabeth’s mother just to get information out of her makes me sick ! I mean these people were more worried about gossip instead of Justice for this poor girl ? SMH 🤦♀️
Sweetie I am in my seventies….I have been following the black dahlia since I was 15 years old…..I believe you are correct with your conclusions……👍🏻
Poor Elizabeth went thru complete hell and torture her last days and hours of young life....the person who did this was EXTREMELY EVIL...he basically was a REAL LIFE MONSTER....and I believe that MONSTER definitely was the doctor who had killed her!! Unfortunately, that bastard was NEVER charged and was able to live a life of total freedom until his death 😡.....so this case will NEVER be officially closed and no one will ever be able to be prosecuted due to the killer being dead long ago....but at least we know, that the doctor or whoever killed Elizabeth is now BURNING IN HELL FOR ALL ETERNITY!!!
**My thoughts heart and prayers go out to Elizabeth up in HEAVEN and to ALL of her loving family members....
**RIP Elizabeth 😥💜🙏🩷🕊️
Amen sister! Glory to God hell exists for all eternity and unending for people like him.
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One of the most gruesome and inhumane deaths I’ve ever seen. What they did to this poor woman is unforgivable. Happy heavenly belated birthday Elizabeth.
I first became fascinated with the Black Dahlia because we share the same birth date. I agree that Hodel committed the murder because of the state the body was left in. A person that had no knowledge of anatomy/medicine would not have been able to cut the body like that or drain it completely of blood.
Same here 💯 I'm born on July 29 ❤
@@talesofthedark7694HAPPY BIRTHDAY🎉
@@MsMerised thank you so much 🤗🤗
I disagree hodel didn’t do it we will never know
Getting into the real Hollywood now.... These monsters are protected
Also the way the media treated this situation, and turned it into a fucking circus, is what really pissed me off. This was a human being that had their life taken away from them in a gruesome manner. They should have showed respect.
I remember hearing about this case a while ago. Nobody deserves that kind of fate. I hate how that happened to her, its beyond evil. That was sinister.
Very unfortunate! The police should enlist the help of mediums or clairvoyants in their investigation.
It's ironic you did a video on her for I just looked her up online the other day. What happeend to her was deeply disturbing and what's more disturbing is the person who hurt this poor woman never got caught! This was an unsettling case. From the condition her body was in when found, The woman who was with her then three year old daughter who discovered her body, it was awful 😖
I think the police knew who it was, but they were bribed. He was wealthy and well known in Hollywood.
Your channel is quite fascinating, Karine. Please, do a video on Winona Ryder 🖤
Hello love your stories!!! Would love to see you do Dolly Parton😊
This story gives me the creeps.
Thank you Karine
Very sad story💔May her soul rest in peace
When I was in my upper teens, I had a morbid fascination with death photos so I spent a lot of time on a now shut down website called bestgore and I've seen death pics of Tupac, MJ, Monroe including Black Dahlia. Her death pics are what made me never look at that kind of stuff again because what her murderer did to her was the most horrible thing I'd ever seen. I won't be describing any of it, all I can say is that if it was possible to wash those images from my brain, I definitely would do that. No one deserves what was done to her.
@Leslie Hardeman my sister introduced me to that same site. Those images were things no-one should see, and like you, if I could unsee them I would. What was done to Elizabeth Short was heartbreaking but it was definitely done by someone with a medical background.
that is so errie and awful so sad how this happend to people and why would their be a site of those awful pictures
@@annvalentine-pryce7572 what kind of stuff will they have on that website? I don’t want to look but I’m curious. Did they show the actual pictures of those people and their death scene
@@kiyah4581 That site showed beheadings, victims who collided with vehicles, leaked photos of well known people and Elizabeth Short...Trust me I wish I could get those images out of my head.
I think i’ve been to that site before years ago. Does it still exist?
They covered a story on her on American Horror stories. Really sad. I remember being obsessed with this story when I was a teenager. OBSESSED.
I swear so have I. Ever since I learned about her in high-school I was hooked. I mean to be so poor just trying to make it in this world and dating just to have a meal, I've always had a sadness for her.
@@maraflores832 Some say she was a hermorphadite. Not sure how true that was but either way, it was gruesome. Another one that I became obsessed with was Sharon Tate. I read Helter Skelter in 9th grade and it really screwed with my head.
Very reminiscent of Jack the ripper who was also suspected to have been a surgeon
She was gorgeous but the case scares me
I Am the Night is a 6 part limited series. I don’t want to give too much away but if anyone haven’t seen it and interested in learning more about the Hodel scandal then def check it out. It is told through the story of his granddaughter Fauna Hodel. If not familiar, I definitely recommend looking her up. Her story is Very interesting!!!
Her ghost is by the Biltmore Hotel in downtown Los Angeles. I was walking in the area and saw her, in the clothes of her time. She disappeared after a short time, though. I looked up the person-ghost I saw and it was her, Elizabeth Short. I didn’t know who she was before seeing her ghost. Pretty chilling.
You’re joking
@@devdiya9615 No, not at all. Downtown Los Angeles is full of ghosts.
I absolutely believe that. There's a LOT of historical energy in that place.
@@ndnaf3705 So many really weird things happened when I worked downtown Los Angeles. I’m glad I left. It was full of apparations of all kinds.
I think I read somewhere that Peg Entwistle's ghost is around the Hollywood sign.
By the time i was growing up in the 70s, this case was still big news in LA. My mom was obsessed with newspaper and magazine stories about us case. It actually is THE most famous unsolved case is L.A. (city) history.
So crazy, I just finished an old Rockstar game called L.A Noire where a detective eventually works the Black Dahlia case. Amazing timing, this story is one ive heard about forever but never knew the details of. Thank you
No one still don't know who killed her damn.
I'm amazed with this video on Elizabeth Short you've made! I'm so happy you made it because I've seen several crime shows and documentaries cover the Black Dahlia but not Elizabeth Short. I've heard that the media back in Short's time was brutal and cruel in their coverage of her and her family. Like reporting right after her death that Short was a hooker because she went on dinner dates with men or at the least, she must've been a loose woman - which I don't believe she was loose or a hooker at any point and even if she was it doesn't make her any less of a human than anyone else. I also heard Short's mother found out about her death in a terrible way as well. It's exactly as you said. So sleazy and scummy it makes feel like I need to bathe in bleach. I heard what the movie Black Dahlia was like from someone and was disappointed it didn't focus on Elizabeth Short at all. I think women going to work and starting to explore independent living may have been on the rise then and sexist reporters may have partly spun Elizabeth Short's murder as a cautionary story to other women then along with sensationalizing the story to sell papers. I like to refer to Elizabeth by her actual name rather than morbidly sensational title the press then gave her as a victim. Still part of me wonders that if victims were given names like that and we stopped giving those names to criminals, maybe more people would remember the victims instead of the killers. It feels icky but I'd rather we remember the victims and put them on a weird pedestal rather than the killers simply because some people start killing because they want to be famous for something even if it's for killing. Not sure if such people resort to that for fame enough to warrant that though. And obviously while it may help people think of the victims more so than the killers, it is still dehumanizing to the victims even if we do so after their deaths. I don't know how society can improve itself in the way it treats victims and it's very tragic all around as Elizabeth's fate and the handling/portrayal of her afterward reveals that ugliness lurking in human society. But what most don't realize is that it's not limited to California, it's already widespread, has been for a long time if not already there form the start and really nowhere (& no one) is safe from it. Wherever humans go, that darkness will follow.
This story was always fascinating to me. To this day I think it was her Hodel who killed her. There’s no way a regular person could think to do that.
Wow I knew about her but you showed so much photos I had never seen before and extra information about her too. Well done🙏🏼❤️
This whole situation is f**ked up. I hope she's at peace and maybe one day the truth will be revealed.
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Thank you so much Karine I was waiting for this video since I read her story. We are talking about a story that even screenwriter's couldn't think of
I've read a lot about this case. So sad how the media portrayed her. I agree. The dad was a culprit in her demise.y money is on the doctor
Love your content. Please cover Michelle Williams from Destiny’s Child. She hardly gets recognized
Would love to see these beautiful ladies below:
Meg Ryan, Sigourney weaver, Jodie Foster, Mary Wilson, Florence Ballard, Michelle Obama, Gayle King,
Janis Joplin, Loretta Devine, Aretha Franklin, Alicia Keyes
Tammi Terrell, Gladys Knight, Patti Labelle
Same ❤❤🎉
This is so sad. You should make a video about Divya Bharti- the popular Bollywood actress who ‘fell’ out of her apartment window and died. And also Sridevi- the 6ft woman who ‘drowned’ in a bathtub in the same country she took a life insurance.
Is that the woman who played in Mother? Great movie!
@@lrlavalais2068what movie
Thank you. I was waiting for this all day. I love your channel
You’re so welcome 💛💛💛
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I remember hearing about that story and it scared 😟 me so respectfully, I’m sitting this one ☝️ out 💀
I completely understand my love 😘💛
This one is almost as fascinating as the Jack the Ripper cases in England and also the Zodiac Killer and D.B. Cooper. I feel like because of her promiscuity, the cops really didn't put much effort into finding her killer. She was an up and coming actress and model, who was relatively unknown
She was practically a "runt" in the industry, meaning she didnt get any type of work that put her on the map. Sadly, instead of being an actress and finding a husband, she became known as The Black Dahlia because the few people who did know her said she wore black alot, her hair was dyed jet black, and wore dahlias in her hair a LOT. The cops were lazy and the story was too popular that they wanted to just put it to rest and move on. I used to think it was someone of Irish descent because she had the "Irish Smile", but more mutilated and someone who was maybe betrayed by her. Like I said, she was promiscuous and someone even once said she was a step away from being a paid escort, aka prost*tute. Whoever it was.....they wanted this girl dead. Anyway, let me watch this video Ms. Karine! I'm so glad you did a video on her!!
Melanin - Elizabeth was not promiscuous.
Elizabeth wasn’t promiscuous! She, like a lot of women at that time “ dated for dinner.”
I don’t believe George Hill Hodel killed Elizabeth Short. He was a heinous man, but his son’s theories have a lot of holes. Those pictures that were in George Hodel’s possession were not of Elizabeth.
@@donnadrane4977first off I must say that I too have dated for dinner or even out of boredom. I've never been a promiscuous woman. Just because you want to go out and eat or have fun does not make you a prostitute.😅
I’ve always been fascinated by her tragic ending. But your video brought to life her life and what she was aspiring to be. I had no idea about this hodel guy I’ll definitely have to look more into this sick man. And god Hollywood is just such a sad place where lost souls never leave. I’m so sad for Elizabeth’s mother, the whole case was so mishandled. I hope her soul is at peace. 😢 thank you for another informative deep dive!
My ex was obsessed with the Black Dahlia murder case and old Hollywood
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Dear Lord! The horrible way her life was ended followed by many more “deaths” she got from the media afterwards comes to show how inhumane some people are. The devils that killed her over and over again are paying on the other world! No human being should go through such brutality! Poor girl!
Very Heartbreaking!
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My God... I NEVER heard this story before! I heard the title Black Dahlia, but I never knew the back story. Very sad!
It always shocks me how there’s so many INTENSE murder cases that are unsolved, makes me think of the murders we are walking amongst 😪…
Make Bo Derek video, please!
I'd like that too!
A video on Katharine Hepburn, please
I think all of the surrealists were involved. I think Salvador Dali was in La at the time. Dali had an obsession with feces so that would explain feces in her stomach. Marcel Duchamp hated pubic hair,so that explains the pubic hair being gone. Then man ray had a thing about elongation so that explains the mouth. And hodel was a surgeon
Those policemen 🚩
Bless her, I still find this story one of the saddest. RIP Elizabeth💗💗🕊🕊
@10:43 you posted pics of Michelle Phillips from the Mamas & the Papas, at first I thought she was the daughter of that guy Hodel but I think you posted the wrong picture.
@Jacluv78: you're right. Michelle was a friend of Hodel's daughter. The daughter told Michelle about the abuse she got from her father and I believe of him being a suspect in the Dalia murder. Michelle said in a book that Hodel would give her an evil stare when she came over. He apparently knew that Michelle knew.
@@dalehoward3704 No way!!!! I’ll have to look that up. It makes sense now that Karine posted Michelle’s picture. Thank you for that info.
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Michelle Phillips knew Hodel’s daughter!
Thank you, wanted to know about her. Don't want to go any further, too gruesome from what you added. Sad.
I hope the people at the Los Angeles Examiner went to a hot place for a long time.
Ooo I’ve heard this story before
Jenni 😍😍
The way she was killed was horrible and for what reason? It is what I always thought😮
5:30 Imagine being that bored in your life that you risk a potential death sentence to take credit for a crime.
All of the surrealists were involved, probably as a sacrifice. Hodels house was modeled after mayan temples. Mayans were known for sacrifices
Hi Karine, I love your channel, but the third picture you show of Elizabeth isn't her. It's one of two pictures Steve Hodel found at his father's home that he says are Elizabeth, but they don't look like Elizabeth at all, especially comparing them to the ones of the real Elizabeth. The other ones are all correct. Also why are you showing Michelle Phillips as Hodel's daughter? :)
I think the confusion in the latter case is because as an adult, Hodel's daughter became very close to the young Phillips. This would seem to be something which can be substantiated - apparently Phillips discussed that relationship in detail in an interview with Vanity Fair.
@@dontbefatuousjeffrey2494 Wow, I didn't know that, thanks for the info. :)
@@ratlover7113 No worries. So much myth-making around this case - it's so sad that the real Beth Short has largely been lost in it. The real George Hodel is perhaps even harder to know 😕
The reportsers who tricked Elizabeth's mother should be in jail for what they did lyimg to her about her daughter just to get a story.
YES 💯 I agree with you‼️I read This man's son's book and it seemed quite clear to me that he did it‼️He was a diabolical sadistic man, a superb surgeon and his home at that time resembled a Dark Modern Mayan Pyramid used for sacrificial purposes‼️
Make JFK Jr. Video, please
Hi Karine! I really love your videos! Hope that Princess Kate, Cameron Diaz and Lucy Liu are also on your list 🧡
Can you do Carmen Electra next ?
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I love your voice Karine, and the way you tell all this stories. Never stop because you are one of the best. All love to you.
I dunno I feel like the father knew more about Elizabeth’s whereabouts before she was killed. Maybe Steve Hodel should look into his background as well 🤷♀️
Rip Elizabeth 😢
She deserved Justice. The press should have banned from the police station and the investigation
Can you do a video on man ray ?
3:09 Not the father being mad his daughter (that he abandoned in the most ghettoest of ways) is not listening.
Can you do Jennifer Tilly, Charo, Gina Gershon
The daughter pix are of Michelle Phillips from Mammas & Pappas she is NOT Hodel’s daughter!
0:25 this picture isn’t Elizabeth Short. It’s already been identified as Ruth Spalding. Steve Hodel is a narcissist who does anything for a book sale and attention. It’s really disrespectful because there’s no way he actually believes all his own BS; then again, narcissists have a way of mental gymnastics to convince themselves. Anyways, there’s no link anywhere between George Hodel and Elizabeth Short.
Probably yes
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Cyd Charisse
She looks like Jojo Siwa. I don’t know why they choose Brynn to dance as Black Dahlia.
I know if because of ahs
Masonic sacrifice 🤫
She went too much, talked too far 😜
I thought u talk about iconic women , this woman died a horrific death?? A bit tasteless because it feels like your belittle her death? I love your stuff usually
Everyone mentioned Elizabeth was striking, really beautiful woman. Her image is radiant and iconic , had she been given a real chance she could’ve been a great actress or model. I like that Karrine covers Hollywood icons and the dark side too, you can’t just talk about the good and not mention all the bad. Cautionary tales are important.
To my knowledge she wasn’t an icon tho?
@@ayjanyusuf6047 when she was alive she was popular
Places she hung out everyone knew her she dated different men
Was outgoing charismatic woman
The mother was not walking through a "park." She was walking on a sidewalk on a property which had not been developed! You get too many of the facts incorrect. Which disallows your entire presentation! You spend your time making these videos. Research them, and state the known facts. Otherwise all you are doing is disseminating the wrong information. Which is horrendous.
Are you a family member or detective?
@@fancyreyes4962 Neither.
Rude ass
@@stephencurry8552 you do realize it's hundreds of different stories about how this young lady was murdered... stories about her family lifestyle style etc etc... you seem very upset. Chill
@@fancyreyes4962 You prove to be incapable of interpreting a persons state-of-mind. When you have nothing substantive to add. It is best to shut-up.