lil tip: if u put a bunch of loose shells in your left pouch and need to fill up the loops on the side of the gun, they immediatly refil the loops when you brush the gun against them.
@@mosesstone2221 well to be fair get buckshot then go to an armored mimic in kokhoz, I literally emptied a whole 12 buckshot from a spas into one ran out then shot at it with my last 2 bullets in a glock 18 and it still didn't die. Against unarmored enemies yes buck is good even from range if you got the upgrade to decrease spread, but against armored enemies it's near useless
Buckshot is still valuable at point blank. Especially against multiple enemies. Lining 2 fragments into one shell and stabbing both cores at the same time is one of many satisfying uses for buckshot
"buckshot is bad" - shows footage of shooting buckshot outside of minimum range. buckshot fires a spread of multiple pellets, use it at close range where each pellet hits to do shitloads of damage.
Where did this damage table come from anyway? there is no way Buckshot does less damage than some of the rifles they don't even specify if the damage is from a single pellet or amount of pellets
I find the 81 to be great because you have a lot of control over the shells. I play very aggressively, so I will load one or two slugs followed by three or four buckshot. I shoot the slugs accurately, then charge in with buckshot to finish off anything left alive. It usually works
I saved up a lot to buy the SPAS12 and once I got it, I never looked back. So much better than any other shotgun it's amazing. Glad they have it in semi-auto mode, pumping was such a chore lol
Ok, my comments: Super well organized and very well presented. I wish I presented my current research proposal that well. Also, you have clearly been very thorough and at the same time you manage to make me laugh during every video. Bravo my dude, I hope you go far.
I mean if you aren't dumb when playing the game you'd never run out lf money to buy slugs so it wouldn't really be much of an issue. Besides you can hold more than 1 gun
I mean being In the early game as I am having that Beginning sawed off For what i like to call "Oh fuck you exist moments". Which are moments in which an enemy Sneaks up on you while your main gun is not avalable. Like recently. Me taking out the mag from the pistol to refill it in a quiet moment only for footsteps to intensify and a stalker to walk around a corner. Was glad I had the sawed off then.
man the Izh-81 is so good, even late game its good for dispatching armored enemies, especially with slugs considering is basically a cheaper +p but for shotguns, or at least thats what It feels like
To those just finding this video, a lot of the shotgun's spread has been heavily reduced and shotguns are insanely viable for short to mid range even with buckshot
I'm glad you made this video because I bought the iz-81 and it felt like I made a bad purchase only to watch this video and realize it was just because I was using buckshot
What I'd do for fun is bring the double barrel & an ammo box of slugs with me as a side arm. It was a little heavy but the snap open makes reloading from the box really easy. I was running with one of the AKs, so anything that got close (spawns) needed to go quickly & economically. I tried running with setups that required my vest mag pouches to be split between 2 guns & didn't survive as well.
I've been using the Saiga lately but I'm leaving home more often as it's mags are SUPER buggy. Regularly they refuse to store in the mag pouches and just drop to the ground so they have to go in the side pouch or backpack until the next loading screen that sometimes fixes them. I keep falling back on the pump action as it's just way too fun to use once you get the ammo upgrade.
My favorite is the pump action because it is free since it is available at a stach, and also I like the pump action aspect of it. Also I use a half and half mix of slugs and buckshot
Honestly I wished that there were supressors for some of the shotguns and not even for stealth with a shotgun, but purely because this game has some gorgeous sounding guns and suppressed shotguns sound incredible....But yeah I suppose stealth shotgun would be pretty funny and practical.
I suggest for better armor piercing with the double barrels or tube feed shotguns, to bring a 357 handgun, such as the Deagle or the new revolver, since their caliber allows crazy armor penetration...
Ok the spas is way underrated. Maybe its worse in pcvr but in oculus its by far the best. It only really struggles in the farther reaches of mid range and long range and it can be upgraded to a 9 round tube mag cap + 1 in the chamber
Bro, Buckshot is multiple small projectiles, or bassicaly bbs. A slug is a full projectile which is why buckshot spreads more while a slug shoots straight
And Next up The assault rifles I assume then DMRs/Sniper rifles I feel we should via the upgrade station convert the Spas-12 to a Pump cause the IRL thing was both a Pump action and a Semi auto you swapped via the flick of a switch. The Pump Spas-12 most logically be a Better version of the normal pump action
I know this video is almost a year old by now, but the Izh-81 (an M870 in my modded game) is the only shotgun I own, and the only one I need Having come from H3 to ITR I absolutely love manually operated weapons. Pumping that fore after a nice kill will never not be satisfying
You critizise the double barrel for only having two barrels, but that's literally double the barrels of any of the other shotguns. That's 200% barrels. Thing is OP.
In my Ironman run I gave shotguns a chance. And I hated the Siaga. Using it got me killed so often. The spas tho was always true. Maybe my playstyle not sure. But I sold my siaga and want nothing to do with that weapon ever again
Idk why but when I use the two break actions they don’t work properly, like I’ll be running and it’s like my tracking gives up and the shotgun stops moving, but the only two guns that do that are the over under shotguns (the ones you can buy) meanwhile I have to problem with the side by side shotguns (the ones you find)
to be honest you are waaaay too into this game…. im not complaining i’m just saying you really helped me get into this game and now it’s in my top 4 favorite vr games, so thank you!
is buckshot alright with the accuracy upgrade? Personally I'd rather use a shotgun for its aoe, and as far as i can tell, the aoe reduction looks usable. Thoughts?
I said to myself before uoloading that if my videos can get atleast 15 views in a week I'd be happy and it's safe to say that I've well surpassed that number
@@novgrado yeah it's got a small presence on youtube with the only regular content on it being one hour gameplays which personally I don't find attractive
I'm new to shotguns. I've figured out how to fill up the loops on the side of the shotgun, but I haven't figured out how to remove shells from those loops...?
You use the trigger to remove shells from the loops. I've found that they also always get removed from left to right, so you don't have to reach fro the exact one every time
I cant get my pump handle to cycle a new shell in the chamber to shoot. I must have a glitch. Is there something I have to press or hold a certain way????
They're frequently indoors. And why use a shotgun at long range anyway? If you want to snipe, then bring a rifle. The slugs being able to fire at ranges still doesn't mean they're well suited for it. It's more of a compromise.
You shouldn't treat buckshot as a long-range option. It preforms best at (obviously) close to medium range. If you buy the reduced spread mod, it can be used quite reliably in those medium-range encounters (but still wouldn't recommend long-range engagements). Buckshot-loaded shotguns in real life can shoot from a fair distance away, but they're still ideally used in closer ranges, just like this game. Shotguns are no replacement for sniper rifles. *TL/DR: be close to enemy to make buckshot good, who would've guessed* Also, never buy the increased spread mod. Literally just makes your gun more inaccurate with no upside. You would only buy it if you're terrible at aiming so you have more room for error in cqc, in which case you're probably dead anyway
Heyu man, thank you for the videos. Gonna tweak my loadouts and what i work for! Question, would the Ithica-Z Shotgun be a good subsitute for a Sniper rifle? Or should I still carry my mosin?
@@notbsp Kinda bummed, tried out the IZ-8 and I couldn't get comfortable with it. Every other or once every 3 shots, if I tried to rack it would just load the expended shell back into the barrel instead of ejecting it. Became very fustrating to use when I was engaging mimics. Think I'll stick with the Over-Under for now, save for a Spas.
The more I play on story mode the more I feel I have missed something. Idk if my bad loot runs or low weight capacity are bc I’m on easy mode or if I’m just bad
SPAS has a bigger magazine tube than IZh-81 and allows to get in or out of difficult close quarters situation alive much-much easier. Why would you use IZh-81 as a sniper rifle when there are actual sniper rifles? IZh-81 belongs to the B-tier imho, it's a good gun and I also had a lot of fun with it, but it is rather restricting. I do agree with everything else tho. Good info, thx for it upd: C-tier, not B
did they nerf it recently? It seems to take alot of shots with slugs to get kills on armor targets and also sometimes it takes 2 shots on unarmored seekers or mimics unless point blank.
@@shinobusensui9395 I also felt it. SPAS has let me down once in each of the two latest hunts with it. I have decreased spread but a SWAT in like 10-15m just wouldn't die and I ended up with an empty tube while being silently surrounded by other enemies. Then I was using 100% slugs and took down a soldier in 20ish meters with 3 hits. I must mention tho, that I belive I hit his limbs all 3 times
Just recently got back into into the radius and really liking this new update for for it but do you know if the SKS is going to get The bayonet back or at least be able to attach degradable combat knives?
I have no idea, I remember seeing in a Devblog tho the idea that they don't plan on ever working on a complete melee combat system as they believe it'd be too clunky and not work with the game
lil tip: if u put a bunch of loose shells in your left pouch and need to fill up the loops on the side of the gun, they immediatly refil the loops when you brush the gun against them.
Will be trying this, thanks!
I'll have to try that, nice tip
I can’t wait to try this
Great tip thanks
Yo, bet?
“Buckshot is so bad”
*Shoots from 30 meters away with buckshot*
It's really not that bad irl
@@kylebradley3 it's for close range, it's good in the game, who the fuck would use a shotgun at this kind of range
You would be amazed of how far a shotgun can kill at range IRL.
@@SukoSeiti yeah irl, not in games
@@Aleex1869 buckshot genuinely carries over a wide distance. 00 Buckshot is the preferred ammo for Olympic skeet shooting.
you are currently the best into the radius youtuber man keep up the good work
This made me smile, thank you for the kind words :D
@@notbsp And we need a playthrough from you
Definitely good content
I'd say a second competitor is radius rick
We love you@@notbsp
*Uses buckshot at over 10m* “Man this stuff has awful range!”
To be far the games guns are pretty realistic, everything but buckshots range is
@@mosesstone2221 well to be fair get buckshot then go to an armored mimic in kokhoz, I literally emptied a whole 12 buckshot from a spas into one ran out then shot at it with my last 2 bullets in a glock 18 and it still didn't die. Against unarmored enemies yes buck is good even from range if you got the upgrade to decrease spread, but against armored enemies it's near useless
4:18
Peek the target 👀
Pop the target 💥🔫
*Pump the target* 😏
Buckshot is still valuable at point blank. Especially against multiple enemies. Lining 2 fragments into one shell and stabbing both cores at the same time is one of many satisfying uses for buckshot
2:58 "and like every shotgun in CoD, its dogshit at range"
*laughs in 725*
"buckshot is bad" - shows footage of shooting buckshot outside of minimum range.
buckshot fires a spread of multiple pellets, use it at close range where each pellet hits to do shitloads of damage.
Where did this damage table come from anyway? there is no way Buckshot does less damage than some of the rifles
they don't even specify if the damage is from a single pellet or amount of pellets
@@ZalYagunRyai def from a single pellet, buckshot still shreds mid/late game
I find the 81 to be great because you have a lot of control over the shells. I play very aggressively, so I will load one or two slugs followed by three or four buckshot. I shoot the slugs accurately, then charge in with buckshot to finish off anything left alive. It usually works
I saved up a lot to buy the SPAS12 and once I got it, I never looked back. So much better than any other shotgun it's amazing. Glad they have it in semi-auto mode, pumping was such a chore lol
I like the pump
Ok, my comments: Super well organized and very well presented. I wish I presented my current research proposal that well. Also, you have clearly been very thorough and at the same time you manage to make me laugh during every video. Bravo my dude, I hope you go far.
you should also mention that there is an upgrade for the iz-81 that makes it so that there are 4 more slots to put rounds in
Same with the Spas-12
Thanks for giving this game some attention. These videos are well made and edited, I've enjoyed watching them.
I mean buckshot is a bunch of small pellets that go everywhere so sniping people with em wont work for obvious reason lmao
@LolsterXD But why would you waste your slugs when you could use buckshot close range
@LolsterXD Not to mention y’all only be hitting one pellet if you hit all of them you’ll be doing so much more damage
I mean if you aren't dumb when playing the game you'd never run out lf money to buy slugs so it wouldn't really be much of an issue. Besides you can hold more than 1 gun
Best Into the radius youtuber, so much usefull information in less than 6 minutes
Recently got this on quest 2 and I’ve been hooked these videos are a huge help waitin on dat assault rifle video keep up the great work
Keep up the grind I see potential in your style/editing
Another great tier list!
Btw: I find the Saiga to be a beast when you fold the stock and clear pobeda factory
I knew I left something out! I forgot to mention the Saiga had a folding stock which is what makes clearing Podeda Factory with it so easy
@@notbsp It's most important feature haha
Probably nothing tbh. I've not ever noticed any meaningful difference in folding the stocks on the guns
I mean being In the early game as I am having that Beginning sawed off For what i like to call "Oh fuck you exist moments". Which are moments in which an enemy Sneaks up on you while your main gun is not avalable. Like recently. Me taking out the mag from the pistol to refill it in a quiet moment only for footsteps to intensify and a stalker to walk around a corner. Was glad I had the sawed off then.
man the Izh-81 is so good, even late game its good for dispatching armored enemies, especially with slugs considering is basically a cheaper +p but for shotguns, or at least thats what It feels like
imagine using buckshot on long range??? what do you expect
loading the shotgun from the ammo boxes was such an amazing tip i subscribed.
you did NOT just badmouth my pookie spas 12
THEY HAVE A VIRTUAL STOCK IN THIS GAME???? this has to be the best shooter vr title out there
"It literally only has two barrels"
buckshot is made for close encounters
Your channel is so underrated. Keep up the good work!!!
To those just finding this video, a lot of the shotgun's spread has been heavily reduced and shotguns are insanely viable for short to mid range even with buckshot
Bet thank you!
Bro the over under sawn off is my main gun because of badassery, that and Mad Max
No nonsense, no intro, no begging for likes and subs, music to my ears ,liked and subbed 👌
Pump it is so fun. When you get good at it you really can just shoot every second. I recomend trying at the shooting range
Been wanting videos like this. Glad you're making these. Looking forward to one on rifles.
“Buckshot sucks”
Bro you are like 10 yards away it’s a close quarters weapon, if I wanted long range I’d get a rifle
Another fantastic guide. Thumbs up for the algorithm!!!
Me who took solely a double barrel in Peachorsk castle
I'm glad you made this video because I bought the iz-81 and it felt like I made a bad purchase only to watch this video and realize it was just because I was using buckshot
What I'd do for fun is bring the double barrel & an ammo box of slugs with me as a side arm. It was a little heavy but the snap open makes reloading from the box really easy. I was running with one of the AKs, so anything that got close (spawns) needed to go quickly & economically. I tried running with setups that required my vest mag pouches to be split between 2 guns & didn't survive as well.
I've been using the Saiga lately but I'm leaving home more often as it's mags are SUPER buggy. Regularly they refuse to store in the mag pouches and just drop to the ground so they have to go in the side pouch or backpack until the next loading screen that sometimes fixes them. I keep falling back on the pump action as it's just way too fun to use once you get the ammo upgrade.
My favorite is the pump action because it is free since it is available at a stach, and also I like the pump action aspect of it. Also I use a half and half mix of slugs and buckshot
Uh-uh, you forgot the greatest stat to take in account!: Badassness (looks)
I've noticed that when sniping with the shotguns, they have a 2/3rds chance of landing with that 3rd shot going wherever it wants. Big frustration
My sawed off shotgun I use in the game is just an emergency gun, if I run out of bullets for my pistol or I get overwhelmed I just whip it out a blam
Why do you complain about range, it’s a goddamn shotgun
Pump actions in this game is such a work out
Stand out work NoTbsp, I'll make sure to use my big moonkey brain to subscribe and like the video!!
The mad man actually did it!
Honestly I wished that there were supressors for some of the shotguns and not even for stealth with a shotgun, but purely because this game has some gorgeous sounding guns and suppressed shotguns sound incredible....But yeah I suppose stealth shotgun would be pretty funny and practical.
I suggest for better armor piercing with the double barrels or tube feed shotguns, to bring a 357 handgun, such as the Deagle or the new revolver, since their caliber allows crazy armor penetration...
sawnoff against sliders are a dream, but that is the only thing i think its good at
for a second ithough he was going to say pump the target
Snooper Roofle
but now the SPAS-12 has an incredible upgrade taking your 8 bullet slots to 12 bullet slots.
Ok the spas is way underrated. Maybe its worse in pcvr but in oculus its by far the best. It only really struggles in the farther reaches of mid range and long range and it can be upgraded to a 9 round tube mag cap + 1 in the chamber
i want the pump action because its sick
Pls do a best AR guide, that’s the type of gun I mainly use. More specifically the m4A1
Bro,
Buckshot is multiple small projectiles, or bassicaly bbs. A slug is a full projectile which is why buckshot spreads more while a slug shoots straight
You are doing God's work, comrade.
Awesome funny video dude, had me rollin
"the spread upgrade does not effect slugs at all" nah really? thats crazy
And Next up The assault rifles I assume then DMRs/Sniper rifles
I feel we should via the upgrade station convert the Spas-12 to a Pump cause the IRL thing was both a Pump action and a Semi auto you swapped via the flick of a switch. The Pump Spas-12 most logically be a Better version of the normal pump action
No silly! Other way around, the snipers first then the rifles
@@notbsp alright Alright let’s do the other extreme then our ARs
If i run a shotgun i normally take saiga mags with me, its faster reload than pulling out a whole ass ammo tin from your bag
Put shells in the pouch
“Buckshit” lmao
I know this video is almost a year old by now, but the Izh-81 (an M870 in my modded game) is the only shotgun I own, and the only one I need
Having come from H3 to ITR I absolutely love manually operated weapons. Pumping that fore after a nice kill will never not be satisfying
Wait so we talking about shotguns and you say Bucketshots are dogshit cause you use it it on range targets...
You can upgrade the SPAS-12 to have a ammo cap of 12 fyi
Bros got the audacity to call buckshot bad while firing it from 3 lightyears away as if it isn't made for close range
You critizise the double barrel for only having two barrels, but that's literally double the barrels of any of the other shotguns. That's 200% barrels. Thing is OP.
In my Ironman run I gave shotguns a chance. And I hated the Siaga. Using it got me killed so often. The spas tho was always true.
Maybe my playstyle not sure. But I sold my siaga and want nothing to do with that weapon ever again
i found buck shot was better when you can't get a laser early game for CQC
Just bought the IZ81 yesterday but spend the rest of my money on buckshot and not slugs
Idk why but when I use the two break actions they don’t work properly, like I’ll be running and it’s like my tracking gives up and the shotgun stops moving, but the only two guns that do that are the over under shotguns (the ones you can buy) meanwhile I have to problem with the side by side shotguns (the ones you find)
to be honest you are waaaay too into this game….
im not complaining i’m just saying
you really helped me get into this game and now it’s in my top 4 favorite vr games, so thank you!
Here’s an interesting question. What’s your opinion on the different types of red dots?
sawn off ? its called a sawed off shotgun where im from.
They nerfed the velocity on the shotguns that were not in the red here. I was wondering why i couldn't snipe with the IZ81. its now at 38,600 velocity
I’m using double barrel shotgun with slugs as a hunting rifle
is buckshot alright with the accuracy upgrade? Personally I'd rather use a shotgun for its aoe, and as far as i can tell, the aoe reduction looks usable. Thoughts?
nice video! im guessing your doing rifes next?
Yeah, the sniper RIFLES, got one more class of guns left to do before that big assignment of a video
@@notbsp ahh true, that will be a long video if you did all the rifles combined.
Hey man. Tarkov player and your vids make me want a vr headset soooooo bad
damn you you are getting a lot of subs a day, nice
I said to myself before uoloading that if my videos can get atleast 15 views in a week I'd be happy and it's safe to say that I've well surpassed that number
@@notbsp Yeah and I never seen people talking about ITR, plus the videos are good
@@novgrado yeah it's got a small presence on youtube with the only regular content on it being one hour gameplays which personally I don't find attractive
@@notbsp It is far more fun to play the game than to watch a gameplay
Also in both my playthroughs I always kept shotgun ammo but never used them, I need to use them more.
wat about the secret hunters shotgun you can find inside the greenhouse in the fourth zone (srry im bad with names)
I'm new to shotguns. I've figured out how to fill up the loops on the side of the shotgun, but I haven't figured out how to remove shells from those loops...?
You use the trigger to remove shells from the loops. I've found that they also always get removed from left to right, so you don't have to reach fro the exact one every time
@@donovanjoseph737 Yeah, thanks for the reply!
I cant get my pump handle to cycle a new shell in the chamber to shoot. I must have a glitch. Is there something I have to press or hold a certain way????
Remember, buckshot is better than birdshot (even if it isn't in the game)
dud i fucking LOVE the ithaca, i may use the groza more, but i will always keep the pumpy boy
To all the people saying "imagine using buckshot at range" I say "imagine letting a mimic get close."
They're frequently indoors. And why use a shotgun at long range anyway? If you want to snipe, then bring a rifle. The slugs being able to fire at ranges still doesn't mean they're well suited for it. It's more of a compromise.
You shouldn't treat buckshot as a long-range option. It preforms best at (obviously) close to medium range. If you buy the reduced spread mod, it can be used quite reliably in those medium-range encounters (but still wouldn't recommend long-range engagements). Buckshot-loaded shotguns in real life can shoot from a fair distance away, but they're still ideally used in closer ranges, just like this game. Shotguns are no replacement for sniper rifles. *TL/DR: be close to enemy to make buckshot good, who would've guessed*
Also, never buy the increased spread mod. Literally just makes your gun more inaccurate with no upside. You would only buy it if you're terrible at aiming so you have more room for error in cqc, in which case you're probably dead anyway
Soo...when AA12 with 20 round drum magazine and Frag-shells? XD
Well there's a reason there's...no spread difference in slugs...cause a slug is a slug..it's just a big ball of lead lol
Heyu man, thank you for the videos.
Gonna tweak my loadouts and what i work for!
Question, would the Ithica-Z Shotgun be a good subsitute for a Sniper rifle? Or should I still carry my mosin?
I'd still go for the mosin, I think the devs saw the videos and have decided to nerf the shotguns range in 2.2
@@notbsp
Kinda bummed, tried out the IZ-8 and I couldn't get comfortable with it.
Every other or once every 3 shots, if I tried to rack it would just load the expended shell back into the barrel instead of ejecting it.
Became very fustrating to use when I was engaging mimics. Think I'll stick with the Over-Under for now, save for a Spas.
Works fine to me. I snipe with the pump shotgun all the time
Buckshot is close range slugs are far range genius
The more I play on story mode the more I feel I have missed something. Idk if my bad loot runs or low weight capacity are bc I’m on easy mode or if I’m just bad
you’re just fucking bad. imagine playing on easy mode. grow some balls you pussy.
alright no need for such aggression. What do you care?
@@Micarsei I don’t care, stop being a pussy and quit playing on easy.
@@CloroxBleach-dq8mr well I mean I posted that ages ago. I’ve just stopped playing altogtther
@@Micarsei you stopped playing cause ur soft and afraid. grow some balls
Can you make a new video for version 2.6
I can’t use the IZ81 because it will not let me put the fifth shell in and not letting me shoot.
Safety. Or better yet use the pump. To you know, chamber the shell into the gun lmfao
Is the side by side barrel shotgun in the quest 2 version of into the radius
It is, just rare to find. Theres a spawn for it in kolkhoz at the warehouses, and they are kinda rare but spawn in white crates in bolotky
SPAS has a bigger magazine tube than IZh-81 and allows to get in or out of difficult close quarters situation alive much-much easier. Why would you use IZh-81 as a sniper rifle when there are actual sniper rifles? IZh-81 belongs to the B-tier imho, it's a good gun and I also had a lot of fun with it, but it is rather restricting.
I do agree with everything else tho. Good info, thx for it
upd: C-tier, not B
did they nerf it recently? It seems to take alot of shots with slugs to get kills on armor targets and also sometimes it takes 2 shots on unarmored seekers or mimics unless point blank.
@@shinobusensui9395 I also felt it. SPAS has let me down once in each of the two latest hunts with it. I have decreased spread but a SWAT in like 10-15m just wouldn't die and I ended up with an empty tube while being silently surrounded by other enemies. Then I was using 100% slugs and took down a soldier in 20ish meters with 3 hits. I must mention tho, that I belive I hit his limbs all 3 times
@@shinobusensui9395 or were you talking about IZh-81? Sorry, I wasn't tracking its updates. Maybe just shotguns got worse generally??
@LolsterXD yeah, sry, I meant C-tier
@@vitalytarnover6171 yes the IZH-81, i checked the weapon stats and the range on all the shotguns were nerfed greatly.
"Buckshot is bad" Literally trying to snipe, Slugs are goated but buckshot do well up close
"decreased spread dosnt affect the slugs"
Im guessing you aren't super knowledgeable about firearms....
Did they get rid of the one double barrel?
I didn’t see the double barrels
Just recently got back into into the radius and really liking this new update for for it but do you know if the SKS is going to get The bayonet back or at least be able to attach degradable combat knives?
I have no idea, I remember seeing in a Devblog tho the idea that they don't plan on ever working on a complete melee combat system as they believe it'd be too clunky and not work with the game