SS Arena PVP Tier List Update - Season 1

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  • SS Arena PVP Tier List Update - Season 1
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  • @hotchowder
    @hotchowder 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +80

    Now do a BGB updated tier list!

    • @Coheed420
      @Coheed420 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +33

      He needs to focus on BGB. Nobody is doing solo shuffle anymore and the 25min queues already prove it.

    • @TheRafy
      @TheRafy 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

      This

    • @doclovejr
      @doclovejr 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

      I'm glad people enjoy BGB but to say shuffle is dead is a lie. Looking at the activity section on Drustvar is showing Shuffle/Arena is definitely alive.

    • @t.ydunston2251
      @t.ydunston2251 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@Coheed420they healthy SS ladder and one one doing it? Damn…..

    • @deviin6996
      @deviin6996 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      @@Coheed420not true at all, lol

  • @Cigma3
    @Cigma3 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

    Why have we created a god tier? Isn’t god tier just S tier and S tier just A tier?

    • @WalkingUpsideDown
      @WalkingUpsideDown 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Funds are tight, needs to make a change to his daily tier lists

  • @The_Fictionist
    @The_Fictionist 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +15

    It’s interesting to see different folks with different views. Supatease regularly rates rot damage specs higher than other folks. He loves the dots and bleeds.

    • @heroman1322
      @heroman1322 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Probably why I relate to him. I love all the rot specs! Affliction warlock is tempting me while I main Shadow priest!

    • @curiousabout1
      @curiousabout1 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@heroman1322 I main Boomkin but looks like both my SPriest and Afflock are going to get some more play! But I still love my Boomy of course who absolutely destroys in bgs. Oh and yeah gotta gear that Devoker and Frost Mage too! Ty ty Blizz for making an altoholic out of me lol, having so much fun!

    • @itsbalang1659
      @itsbalang1659 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      He has other prespective for Rated 3v3 probably for bleed/rot specs because it is more co-ordinated, Rot specs are usually better for solo shuffle atm

    • @RhodesianSuperiority
      @RhodesianSuperiority 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Well you know supa tries to be unbiased and give his real honest opinions on the state of the game…. Meanwhile people like ven just say whatever they want to get nerfed is broken 🙄

    • @shindigidy2286
      @shindigidy2286 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I think some people only focus on the top percenters and not the overall players because I know when I was maining Druid I’d break combat to escape and go try heal up but never really caught onto needing to cleanse and got myself killed for being unable to heal myself in time because dealing with dots and bleeds if different than avoiding direct damage

  • @sjorshendriks5883
    @sjorshendriks5883 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

    4:25 "you fall over to a gust of wind". Me as a shaman: gonna have to try this.

  • @manguito598
    @manguito598 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    I think WoW content creators need to start making separate tier lists for low and high elo. Outlaw and spriest for example are beans at low elo. Separate tier lists would both be more accurate and provide more easy content to pump out. It's a win/win

  • @Almostoogood
    @Almostoogood 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    Blizzard please fix demonology warlock. They need smaller pet healthbars that are almost see-through. They need less hardcast and more instants in pvp. They need more dmg. Also fix beastmaster hunter pets the same way (and every class with lots of pets).

    • @tonystewart7179
      @tonystewart7179 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I feel that. I don't take damage when I have a demo lock on my team. They know the damage isn't there and just double focus.

    • @curiousabout1
      @curiousabout1 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      I might be wrong but I'm pretty sure you can alter pets' health bars in any way you like with the addon Plater.

    • @Almostoogood
      @Almostoogood 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@curiousabout1 This isin't a reliable fix because pet healthbars are linked to psyfiend and other bars warrior standard, so if you reduce the size of one thing it reduces all other things you need to see in pvp. I've worked extensively in plater and it requires a custom plater script(which i have).

  • @lasertorsk9161
    @lasertorsk9161 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Assassination rogue is so overrated for solo shuffle. There is 1 sin rogue in top 100 SS and 3 in top 200. Literally unplayable into hunter (with their bugged hero talent Catch out) and frost mage. Your biggest offensive cooldown is useless into Pres, Surv and Paladin. Either sit perma root or use vanish on roots and die on next rotation, GG

  • @wolfster2287
    @wolfster2287 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    This is probably the first time I heard the term squishy warlock. I did not even know there is such a thing.

    • @nunyabusiness1317
      @nunyabusiness1317 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Play a low rated solo shuffle and you’ll see it

    • @Essemlol
      @Essemlol 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      at like 1400-1600 rating aff locks just get ran down, its the nr1 target every team go for with no exception. If its the aff locks being bad, healers who cant keep up the hps or the team mates not providing enough help im not sure, probably a mix of all those.

    • @nunyabusiness1317
      @nunyabusiness1317 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@Essemlol this is true. Affliction locks are the number 1 target no matter what. Letting them free cast doing PVE dmg and padding the meters is insane with their spammable CC. Locks need to learn how to kite, juke and maximize their damage all at the same time if they want to be anywhere near or above 2k rating. And even then, if the healer is bad you just fall over. If your teammates don't peel, you fall over. Their damage is high but double melee is no joke.

    • @estebanslavidastic4382
      @estebanslavidastic4382 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@nunyabusiness1317 certain melee just RUN YOU DOWN and it feels like there is VERY littel counterplay.
      Like a good UHDK feels insurmountable as a lock solo. You NEED support from ur team to be able to deal with them.
      I had an UHDK just double gripping me out of range of my portal @ the start of every match, and my priest teammate never shielded me, and never lifegripped me back.
      so i was stuck moving 30% movement speed back to in range of my portal, unable to even CC the DK off me cause he has like, 18 seconds of AMS, into a blanket silence.

  • @silence568
    @silence568 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    This has to be one of the worst tier list I’ve seen in a while. Outlaw GOD tier xDDDDDDDD . This dude has to touch some grass, 8 classe in god tier… wtf is that ? Personal agenda against rogues… disgusting

  • @TheDhac
    @TheDhac 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    As an outlaw rogue I feel youre cappin with that rating

  • @okiv99
    @okiv99 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    Terrible list. 8 classes in god tier. WTF does god tier even mean at this point.

    • @chrisk1458
      @chrisk1458 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Olymp

    • @skillUnit
      @skillUnit 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      i swear 90% of people who make tier lists dont understand how to use them lol

  • @Mtgproxycanadamtgproxycanada
    @Mtgproxycanadamtgproxycanada 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Explanation for destroying = try casting chaos bolt in SS.
    Way to slow for how weak it hits, it needs to do 2M + or it's not even worth it with how easy it is to kite/los/cc

    • @Mtgproxycanadamtgproxycanada
      @Mtgproxycanadamtgproxycanada 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Destro**

    • @cloud3997
      @cloud3997 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      They need to rework the spec.. relying on one ability is poor design

    • @chrisk1458
      @chrisk1458 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Just go more mastery and only look for small burst windows. Dps doesnt matter at all

    • @estebanslavidastic4382
      @estebanslavidastic4382 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@chrisk1458 DPS absolutely matters in Solo Shuffle, cause if ur burst windows is high but ur DPS is low, a good healer will just trade cooldowns during ur burst window.
      you cnat be doing no consistent damage @ all and expect to win against teams that can do super good consistent pressure AND have scary kill windows in their cooldowns

  • @nikmo7360
    @nikmo7360 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    Im glad you brought up outlaw, people putting it on b tier like this spec isnt completely crushing

    • @memofreire
      @memofreire 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      @@nikmo7360 it isn't lol

    • @Frequently1
      @Frequently1 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@memofreire Its a top DPS spec in PvE and was definitively the most OP PvP spec in Dragonflight. Hard to believe it’s not good, I think the issue is with the operator likely

    • @memofreire
      @memofreire 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@Frequently1 It's not man. If the operator is a rank1 player that has been playing the spec since TBC, a damn prot pally is god tier... You want proofs? The ladderboard is right there: less than 2% of outlaws are ranking right now.

    • @Frequently1
      @Frequently1 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@memofreire Just because people don’t play a spec, doesn’t mean it’s not good. Outlaw Rogue had very low representation in DF and was far and wide the best class/spec in PvP, every single tournament winner in both regions were rogue teams. Couldn’t even make the semifinals without a rogue.
      Playing since TBC doesn’t mean much, each expansion is new and a fresh start. It really is like starting fresh and learning all the new changes on every spec
      And that “Prot” Paladin is actually a holy Paladin that logged out specced Prot. Looked up his game history.

  • @kylekermgard
    @kylekermgard 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

    I dunno man. I don't think any rogue spec is better than A tier. They are squishy and require more coordination than most melee.

    • @memofreire
      @memofreire 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@kylekermgard these streamers always put specs that only work for like 1% of the pvp playerbase because they play only on 2.4+ rating, that's why he put outlaw in god tier when the spec is totally garbage compared to other meeles and the other rogue specs, only rank1 glads can make it work and that is reflected in the representation of the ladderboard: less than 1% playing outlaw right now 🤣

    • @Frequently1
      @Frequently1 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Sub Rogue is possibly the best spec in the game. Tier lists need to be designed with the high end skill level in mind, just like class tuning.
      Sub Rogue and Outlaw Rogue are absolute tanks in PvP. Legitimately some of the tankiest specs in rated 3s with a healer.
      Assa isn’t as tanky, but it has very high damage and is very easy to compensate.

  • @tony9526
    @tony9526 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    Solo shuffle is dead as fuck. Spent almost 2 hours in que yesterday. Might as well not be in the game

    • @andmat3297
      @andmat3297 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      hm 10 min max for me

    • @HKono_
      @HKono_ 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      obvious lie

    • @lars4422
      @lars4422 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      only first few games are that long. You need to establish your rating.

  • @SQLdb
    @SQLdb 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +13

    Arms is pathetic. I just did not understand how people had this dead beat spec on the A tier.

    • @whisperineye446
      @whisperineye446 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      its actually not bad. its not as good as fury as fury was/is busted. it's def an A tier melee.

    • @danielsmith2483
      @danielsmith2483 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Compared to fury at the moment it may aswell not exist

    • @GhostshipPart1
      @GhostshipPart1 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Idk, coming from a Fury main since BfA I think Arms is pretty good.
      I was in greens with only a couple purple items doing 1.5 mil MS and executes and my bleeds weee ticking for like 100-150k.
      Worst thing about playing any warrior is the fact that they gave everyone 5 different slows and roots. Had to hang it up for the season

    • @SQLdb
      @SQLdb 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@GhostshipPart1 1.5m ms/executes hahahahahahaha dude are you hitting critters?

    • @Draconas
      @Draconas 23 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      ​@whisperineye446 defs not A tier melee lol. The damage is OK but they're squishy as hell. DBTS does nothing vs more than half the specs in the game and ignore pain's tiny shield won't save you if you're getting focused

  • @girthquake5020
    @girthquake5020 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    Not sure about the placement of all the rogue specs, but overall the most accurate tier list so far imo. “Plays WW”

    • @MrKleju
      @MrKleju 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      rogues are always good because of infinite cc, no other class can do what a good rogue can do. Decent damage on top makes them god tier, simple as that

    • @ElfinHilon10
      @ElfinHilon10 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Seconding this, along with devastation. Devastation should be GOD. I otherwise really agree with this list.

    • @Kanoog
      @Kanoog 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@MrKleju False, Rogue was gutted to pure trash last expansion and Pikaboo started to make every alt in the game.

    • @zoovaado7759
      @zoovaado7759 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@Kanoogrogue was still great last xpac, pikaboo plays this game 24/7 for the past 15 years of course he’s gonna make and play every class

    • @RhodesianSuperiority
      @RhodesianSuperiority 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@Kanooglmao what? Rogue comps literally won both EU and NA AWC tournaments…. You must be slow

  • @cubzer
    @cubzer 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    Bro supa i love you but outlaw god tier ahahaha you should try it, it sucks ass

    • @TeronGore
      @TeronGore 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Yeah like, if you get disrupted on your burst, you're non-existent till adrenaline rush comes back up

    • @okiv99
      @okiv99 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Just put everything down 1 row because he exaggerates like crazy. 8 specs in god tier lol.

  • @tannervanasten
    @tannervanasten 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    "Outlaw is competing at the highest level" meanwhile 16 outlaws above 1800. You haven't even seen it to have that opinion, There literally isn't one at the rating you play. Just anti rogue, low moral quality take hunting for nerfs.

    • @mudfack
      @mudfack 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Outlaw rogue ist placed 22 of 26 dd-specs... definately god tier :D

    • @cynicist8114
      @cynicist8114 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Is that because outlaw is not top tier? Or is it because there are two other top tier rogue specs that people prefer to play?

  • @Phanski89
    @Phanski89 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    warlock squishy hahah you learn something new every day, shadow is good IF you get ignored meeles on you Hell on earth, its like so depending on the matchup its between D and S

  • @heroman1322
    @heroman1322 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Archon for Shadow priest is still MELTING in single target damage and many do not know this. I rarely lose a 1v1 situation in BGs because of this. Main weakness feels like fury warrior, demon hunter, and affliction lock! Take pride in the strong sleeper status of Shadow 😅

    • @dimitrisparaskeuopoulos7109
      @dimitrisparaskeuopoulos7109 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      good note in bgs where half of people are pve scrubs.spriest deals the worst dmg so much ramp time to do any dmg that people kill you before you do any dmg

  • @verminosis1
    @verminosis1 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    For sure not accurate

  • @Shivzrogue
    @Shivzrogue 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    personally I feel like assassination seems bad in arena right now compared to last season.

  • @user-ws9di5kp9h
    @user-ws9di5kp9h 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    Man, these tier lists are paying your bills

  • @ElfinHilon10
    @ElfinHilon10 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Def agree with this tier list. The only exception I'd make is devastation being in GOD. It's actually absurd the levels of damage that spec can do.

  • @elhubro2386
    @elhubro2386 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    every none rogue player puts them in s tier, but rogue players all on alts and say rogues are dogshit.

    • @Supatease
      @Supatease  5 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Any competitor is incentivized to be biased towards their own spec as it's performance directly correlates to possible tournament outcomes.

    • @Frequently1
      @Frequently1 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Meanwhile Whaazz is 200+ cr higher than the rest of the game on Sub Rogue. He’s the best player in the game, but this is a dramatic difference this early on
      The problem is with the operator struggling, not the spec

    • @mudfack
      @mudfack 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@Supatease But there are statistics, which proof you wrong. Assa is placed 14/26 dd specs. Sub is pretty good with 6/26 but outlaw is placed 22/26. These statistics are from murlok io which compare the 50 best players of each spec in SS.

    • @andymelgar4980
      @andymelgar4980 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      As a rogue player I’d say it’s A tier and afflic and evoker is definitely god tier especially evoker can easily kite while doing dmg

    • @Frequently1
      @Frequently1 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@andymelgar4980 I’d be willing to bet the winning AWC Cup team this weekend has a Rogue on it (both regions US and EU) and not a DPS Evoker on either team.
      Rogue is absolutely 100% S Tier (Aff Lock too). Evoker probably A Tier, 25 yard range gonna burn evoker in a tournament setting.
      Not downplaying Evoker either, it’s very good on ladder

  • @MikeInSthlm
    @MikeInSthlm 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Demo locks are in a tough spot right now, yes. I wouldn’t rate them as low as D, but yeah, they’re definitely not A either.

  • @Ozmaniac2k
    @Ozmaniac2k 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Outlaw god tier HAHA

  • @IIAnXii3TYII
    @IIAnXii3TYII 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Hey supatease after the ret update with new talents etc what tier you think it will be at?

  • @lifescaption
    @lifescaption 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    What do you think would generally pair well with hpal in 2s, and similarly what would you pair ideally with ret in 2s? :

  • @cptbapozz7390
    @cptbapozz7390 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Yo Rapgod that Title is critical 😅

  • @jeremyguzman7936
    @jeremyguzman7936 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I have been playing discipline since wotlk and I can say for sure, this season discipline feels extremely busted, im scared it will get gutted soon

  • @IrfanAydogan
    @IrfanAydogan 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Looks good and healthy, no class in d most of them around A!

  • @maCAWfactory
    @maCAWfactory 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    thanks bud, very well explained. gluck in your games!

  • @undisclosed9531
    @undisclosed9531 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    normally I agree with your assessment, but BM is still so unbelievebly bad, buffing the damage of a spell by 40% that does less than 1% of you overall damage is not really a buff. Talent interactions are apparently still bugged with BM. It is C at best. When you face a BM hunter just train them, the walls are weak and short, after turtle is over game is over

  • @memofreire
    @memofreire 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

    outlaw god tier? You mean the spec that need to play like a damn piano to do half of the damage of the other rogue specs? You mean the spec that just got nerfed in two of her main damage skills? The spec that benefits the least from their tier set bonus? The spec that his main burst window still has a bug since beta? The only rogue spec that will have no shadowstep? Yeaaaaa suuuure man sure 😂 I mean if you're a rank1 god player you can make brewmaster to work too 😂 ridiculous...

    • @Ozmaniac2k
      @Ozmaniac2k 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      supa is just a bias person who got touched by rogues when he was a child.

    • @viberaider6852
      @viberaider6852 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Wait outlaw doesn't have shadowstep?!

    • @memofreire
      @memofreire 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@viberaider6852 will no longer have when the 11.0.5 changes are implemented, will have another charge of GH instead

    • @llChubll
      @llChubll 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Someone is already crying a river from a tier list of someone that plays the game for a living. Add to that, iit is a personal tier list. People just don't understand what these tier list are LOL

    • @memofreire
      @memofreire 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@llChubll so what's your point lil bro? what I wrote is not true? It is actually god tier outlaw for you or what? are you going to comment something about the topic? or you just here just to antagonize because your boring i don't get it 🤣 you actually play rated pvp? asdfgh

  • @gagecraig934
    @gagecraig934 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Nobody plays solo shuffle. 20 minute queue time, and like 10 minutes as a healer

  • @parkersmith597
    @parkersmith597 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Sad day when my main spec "demo" is with the tanks..

  • @GhostshipPart1
    @GhostshipPart1 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Devoker and Unholy are insane, I think frost DK is more of a low A

  • @tonystewart7179
    @tonystewart7179 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    If an Arms takes a DK out... you are either a god or that DK (Unholy or Frost) is cheeks.
    As for Devo Evo... Being a DK. I love that chase. It super fun

  • @pubadubgthreemeninatree8596
    @pubadubgthreemeninatree8596 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    im not seeing anyone running druid of the claw as feral so what is it that makes them so much more tanky than boomkins?

  • @R4UW3RS
    @R4UW3RS 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    so its basically rangeds & rogue season, nice job blizz

  • @dimitrisparaskeuopoulos7109
    @dimitrisparaskeuopoulos7109 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    not wanna hate but MM is only good in caster classes.try doing dmg vs 2 melee sitting you whole game.same as Spriest it doesnt do dmg doesnt matter if its pve,pvp,questing.

  • @indritmani1198
    @indritmani1198 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    There are many huntards but only 1 huntardini

  • @shahzaibkhanisme
    @shahzaibkhanisme 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    a very happy feral right now

  • @ianryan8933
    @ianryan8933 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I qued into mes and cdew last night playing cupid on their alts and i was running unholy dk sub rogue. Got so close to winning lol but we crapped on everyone else such a fun comp

  • @jesuscollazo4303
    @jesuscollazo4303 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Unless they give hunters more traps 🪤 I would like more op traps

  • @dj_jx
    @dj_jx 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Supa, you can make video about tier sets too. Second week i cant get my second peace. Something is messed up. Last expansion i could get 4 peaces for 2 weeks. Now i hardly can get one.
    Especially with this annoying cap.

  • @xKasteL
    @xKasteL 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Do not show it to Pshero 😅

  • @utlord
    @utlord 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Blizzard made sure that Demo is not a pvp spec, have to hard cast every single ability is a joke for pvp.

  • @fionaburns4210
    @fionaburns4210 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    ww is god

  • @phlemrazzes7704
    @phlemrazzes7704 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    devoker should be s tier, feral/ass should be lower

  • @TeronGore
    @TeronGore 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Hey blizzard, Outlaw is even better in pvp after recent nerfs targeting pve. Nerf outlaw in pvp by 25% overall. It shouldn't be played, doesn't deserve to be played and buff assa and sub rogue a bit like come on, how do you expect to people to play those specs if they don't do damage. assa is worse needs like a 35% damage buff and especially kingsbane, that thing tickles. Sub needs some buffs on tier set, evis and secret tech. They need to do damage man like wtf

    • @olsonbrandon91
      @olsonbrandon91 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      You're joking right? Lol

    • @pharmztko
      @pharmztko 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Lmao Sub is S tier already sounds like a skill issue dawg

    • @Ohripski
      @Ohripski 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I will say i haven’t seen an assa rogue over 2k mmr on SS compared to other specs. Maybe not a lot of people pushing the class, but I’ve seen other classes have way higher rating compared to “god” assa

  • @KJwess
    @KJwess 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    MM at god tier but WW monk at A? Your sleep bro MM gets deleted nowadays, WW monk stomps in all pvp.

    • @beamergtr
      @beamergtr 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I agree. I’ve played mm into a uhdk, fury, ww lobby and it’s an insta loss. No kiting possible. Against casters tho it’s a dream

    • @mikehouse6082
      @mikehouse6082 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      i think supa mega copes and underestimates melee for normie lobbies… playing casters and range in solo shuffle is inherently more challenging because of the popularity of melee. we just get trained down the second the match starts and can’t kite with all the insane mobility melee has right now.

    • @SIIKAP1
      @SIIKAP1 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      facts. people just want hunter nerfed. and not WW for some reason. but WW is much harder to beat and more annoying to play against

    • @everythingtankpit
      @everythingtankpit 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      You guys should play WW…it does good into melees that’s basically it. Trying play WW into rogue MM or dev evoker or frost mage you may as well just / afk. It’s also absolute garbage in BGs. That’s the issue with the game right now in general. Too much rock paper scissors too many hard counters for each spec. Makes matchups more about coin tosses than skill.
      As of this comment top 100 3v3 10hunters 1 WW
      Top 100 shuffle: 14 hunters 3 WW
      BG blitz: 30 MM hunters over 2k
      11 WW over 2k

    • @SIIKAP1
      @SIIKAP1 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@everythingtankpit MM is excellent into casters, wym? They have so many ways to interrupt, and the knock up punch is just broken against actual casters (not OP insta cast frost mage). It’s also good into hunters if you know how to play it

  • @turbz619
    @turbz619 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Calling out all healer brothers . If ya lose the first 3 rounds let the other healer 0-6 yeah so one of us gets rating plz . We have to unite n look after each other

  • @TheCraydee
    @TheCraydee 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Need to get on the BGB guides.

  • @Jack-psxx89
    @Jack-psxx89 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    WW monk feel ass now

  • @Spiritt_Daphiti
    @Spiritt_Daphiti 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Hmm seems like World of (Women's)Craft'' going on their liked and most loved classes ....rogue,hunter,priest ups I forget Dragon '' one ;) and maybe mage hah and all are alliance story's coming.....! That week blizzard didn't even give us a catalyst spark lol but it is normal I play in EU servers :(

  • @dylanwarner6035
    @dylanwarner6035 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Was actually just going to level my hunter

  • @James409_k
    @James409_k 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    In my opinion there are 3 specs that should just stick to PvE... Outlaw, Demonology and Arcane.
    I still hate the change from Combat to Outlaw 🤮

    • @TeronGore
      @TeronGore 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      get over it dude its been 8 years

    • @joshuagodwin8565
      @joshuagodwin8565 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I love demo, easily my favorite warlock spec to play. I love the control, same reason I love rogue

    • @okiv99
      @okiv99 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@joshuagodwin8565 so play feral or alance then spammable clone, instant roots or vortex, 2 stuns, knockback aoe, castable root

  • @islapadabass
    @islapadabass 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    i didnt see anything about haunt nerfs for aff lock, was it not in the patch notes?

    • @atomicoption
      @atomicoption 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I could be wrong, but the nerf was shadowbolt and wither no?

    • @islapadabass
      @islapadabass 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@atomicoption right, but supatease mentioned haunt so i was confused

  • @vadyazmey
    @vadyazmey 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Haha what you gonna do with “god” mm hunter when dk/fury/any melee approach you. Its only playable with rly, rly good feral, or maybe ret, but its weaker against melee. Funny to see how bg oneshots affect all “pvp” tierlist.

  • @chrishoover3395
    @chrishoover3395 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    sin rogue has 2 sharpen blades that last 8 seconds while arms has one that lasts 4 seconds. well played blizz.

  • @KogetaJ
    @KogetaJ 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    the biggest problem with disc right now imo is the fact that their pw shield is a literal spammable life cocoon. how does that make sense

    • @SeemsLikeSomething
      @SeemsLikeSomething 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      It’s only that strong during premonition’s last cycle. And it has a cooldown outside of rapture window.

    • @KogetaJ
      @KogetaJ 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@SeemsLikeSomething is the cd 1.5 mins?

    • @SeemsLikeSomething
      @SeemsLikeSomething 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@KogetaJ the strong one I described is yes, as you get two instant premonitions, before a 1.5 return of those to get the final cycle.

    • @KogetaJ
      @KogetaJ 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@SeemsLikeSomething ok so disc has life cocoon, ps (x2 still?), dome, ult p, and rapture. Radiance is basically a revival in terms of healing. Compared to life cocoon and a triple nerfed revival 💀 time to level my disc and ditch the mw

    • @robertoalvarez2935
      @robertoalvarez2935 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      And weak over all heals?

  • @steadychill5775
    @steadychill5775 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Supa is my tier list go to guy.

  • @shawnburns3996
    @shawnburns3996 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Cataclysm is better more simple game play and pvp can go a long way

  • @RecoilMojo
    @RecoilMojo 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    zugzug

  • @williamtracy7794
    @williamtracy7794 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Why do we even listen to this guy lol guys play what you’re good at and stop class chasing

  • @TerranDL
    @TerranDL 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    i dont see how feral is "extremely tanky". im a duelist feral for context

    • @okiv99
      @okiv99 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Tbh its not its tanky in bear when u do no damage but its defensies improved maybe 10% same as mm got small defensive improve. This guy just majorly exxagerates.

  • @grogesy1344
    @grogesy1344 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    this a US Tier list? EU's alot diff :P

  • @LaAno
    @LaAno 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I dont know how you manage to get some «ret’s Are very easy» into every single video, its so cringe

  • @adrianlima2776
    @adrianlima2776 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    arcane... A?

  • @Th3beastcj
    @Th3beastcj 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Can you leave mm hunger alone please let us live a little lol, how many expansions have it been ? We never see hunters in the AWC

  • @fgc_7433
    @fgc_7433 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Ive been going between Assassin and Feral. And last night I ran the SS with my Assassin. Won 5 of 6 rounds and got Killing Blow 5 times. I burst the Healer one round Hella fast and the paladin was like What happened 😂 I was like I just killed the healer. Then next round I burst the Pally and he was like holy hell.

    • @olsonbrandon91
      @olsonbrandon91 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Sounds busted

    • @fgc_7433
      @fgc_7433 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@olsonbrandon91 Busting is my favorite part.

    • @Ohripski
      @Ohripski 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      What’s the rotation / hero choice

    • @fgc_7433
      @fgc_7433 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@Ohripski Gonna be honest I just Copied the Highest Rank player on Murloc io

    • @okiv99
      @okiv99 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      which u prefer for 1v1s holding flags/carts? I feel like i cnt lose 1v1 on my feral. Havent played my rogue yet in solo bg.

  • @chrisbenn
    @chrisbenn 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Frost mage only "S" tier! now? :/

  • @tmking90
    @tmking90 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Buff arms please, no way it's c tier.. sharpen blade will always be op. but still needs buff

  • @unknownop7144
    @unknownop7144 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Can't get passed 1945 with sin rogue ,maybe I'm just to old 😅

    • @olsonbrandon91
      @olsonbrandon91 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Sounds broken, rating is super squished right now lol

    • @unknownop7144
      @unknownop7144 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@olsonbrandon91 oh so I'm Gucci , I was trying to get the illusion but I kept getting brought down to 1700 I just left it at 1800s

  • @robinkamaji5559
    @robinkamaji5559 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Is blitz meta very different from this ? or similar ?

    • @eugenesternin6039
      @eugenesternin6039 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Kinda. MW monks are god tier for example. Mobility is much more important there.

  • @dw3508
    @dw3508 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    arms in c tier what are you smoking bro

  • @jesuscollazo4303
    @jesuscollazo4303 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I would like a trap that roots every one in chains and does shadow damage if they move if they cast spells or try do samange as in chained so lance or caster and melee shadow damage half life damage and I feel you should be able to combo your traps mix match traps to do different things witch I feel that would be pretty cool I use Tar trap and a explosive trap why not spread fire all over my enemies and why won’t they revamp snake trap I miss doing poison damage to people and capitalize with cobra shot witch explodes makes more dots that be bad ass and why not give hunters a second invisible cloack and I new ability’s called ambush where there cc and can’t get out of the way just like a rope or net like the predictor and another trap they can fall in a hole y or can burst them in there blow them up forces them to use defense somthing . Lol

  • @Balueski
    @Balueski 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    What would be a keybind friendly class?

    • @chrisk1458
      @chrisk1458 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Frost dk

    • @Krillkuttaz
      @Krillkuttaz 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Warrior, Dk, boomkin

  • @racerx.85
    @racerx.85 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Imagine putting dev below MM. Totally unhinged.

  • @angrygun7826
    @angrygun7826 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    MM hunter is the cringiest class design; they should not be able to burst from stealth its an abomination in any bg; hope the class is gutted damage wise and the mastery should not increase range in PvP that is so stupid; or make them kickable; also their casts should cancel if you Los since they can't be kicked

  • @danielsmith2483
    @danielsmith2483 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    BM hunter still unplayable

  • @BartonLynn-l3x
    @BartonLynn-l3x 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Dereck Wall

  • @johnr374
    @johnr374 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Blitz list update pls

  • @jorgebetanzos2607
    @jorgebetanzos2607 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    What a joke...fury Warriors still being GOD. Be seriuos please..

  • @0x4e6f31
    @0x4e6f31 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Hey Supa, will you make an updated blitz tierlist?

  • @markk.8485
    @markk.8485 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    It's actually disgusting how they destroy mistweaver monk. I can't even remember when caster monk was good ..probably back in mop and legion...u never see a caster monk in competitive arenas ... good hero class blizzard. What a joke....

    • @zoovaado7759
      @zoovaado7759 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Caster monk was S tier in dragon flight for a little while lmao.

    • @markk.8485
      @markk.8485 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@zoovaado7759 lol good one..1 week..troll

    • @okiv99
      @okiv99 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Play it in bg and it is s tier best fc in the game now.

    • @markk.8485
      @markk.8485 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@okiv99 unlucky...i dislike bgs..😂

    • @okiv99
      @okiv99 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@markk.8485 Why is it bad in arena? just wondering? never played in arena but a i heard from everybody its bad. Is it because had to stand still to heal too much?

  • @williamtracy7794
    @williamtracy7794 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    You sleeping on Demo bruh D is crazy lol

    • @chrisk1458
      @chrisk1458 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Its only good vs bots

  • @tannervanasten
    @tannervanasten 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    anti rogue bias as usual supaqueef

  • @baboonman846
    @baboonman846 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    All 3 rogues specs in god tier. Climb out of that classes ass for just 1 single season blizzard jesus christ

    • @johnathonramirez4190
      @johnathonramirez4190 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I will say as assassination I find it easier to out pace 1v1 sub rogue. But I see them getting smacked and cannot go toe to toe with a good Ret or Warrior like in season 1 of DF. Would not put them in God tier just from this alone.

  • @georgewashington7982
    @georgewashington7982 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    MM god tier? Bruh

  • @daniel_slr
    @daniel_slr 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

  • @GpDailyGames
    @GpDailyGames 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Stop trying to get assassin nerfed!

  • @whateverbro9002
    @whateverbro9002 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    We need the streamers to start calling out hunter /marksman. At low elo they are just ruining the game. It's also well known that one of the blizz devs plays one so they never have a bad season for pvp. Why do pve nurfs effect pvp ? Surely you just change one or the other depending how performance in each?

    • @Endless10ppp
      @Endless10ppp 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Well its been like this for over 10 years

  • @healskin6843
    @healskin6843 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Rogues damage is pure crap. Doing 30% of the other damage dealers.

  • @SIIKAP1
    @SIIKAP1 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    MM is best in game and unkillable!? Thats a good joke. Frost mage, UDK, fury, ele shaman, dev evoker, affliction lock are all noticeably better. Edit: can’t forget WW monk!

    • @jawadkhaled3796
      @jawadkhaled3796 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I honestly believe SV is alot better than MM right now, more sustained damage which is also strong

    • @SIIKAP1
      @SIIKAP1 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@jawadkhaled3796 SV feels like B tier to me. But more sustained damage is true. I don’t understand why all these content creators lie and say MM is super OP tho. They are easily killable, and their damage is pretty easy to shut down. They’re gonna get the spec nerfed into useless damage.

    • @jawadkhaled3796
      @jawadkhaled3796 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@SIIKAP1they want all hunters nerfed , i have 584 ilvl with good pvp gear and enchants at 1700 mmr, i was getting trained hard yesterday in shuffle games , i hated it so much, on the hand, SV felt more natural and more control over bm and mm

    • @thomaspuppenberger121
      @thomaspuppenberger121 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      True... DEATHastation evokers are just disgusting

    • @Altruistic-General
      @Altruistic-General 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      MM dmg is cracked and it has an extra defensive. It’s not unkillable, supa is being hyperbolic there. It’s very good though.
      Ele doesn’t really belong on your list - frost mage is much better than Ele.

  • @NupoNupsNupsie
    @NupoNupsNupsie 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    bg bliz is full of bots

  • @CrazyRIQ
    @CrazyRIQ 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Rogues having 3 god tier specs is insane