Flat-Footed or On Toes When Kicking?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 2 ต.ค. 2024
- Should you stay flat-footed or rise up to the ball of your foot when throwing kicks? The answer is, per usual: "it depends!" There are always exceptions to the rule, but being flat-footed is better for balance and support, while being "on the toes" is good for pivoting and agility. Remember that pivoting the support foot is done not only to assist in rotating the hips, but to also prevent tension within the knee joint.
FLAT-FOOTED: Linear kicks (side kicks, teeps, etc.), low kicks, & checking kicks
BALL OF FOOT: High roundhouse kicks, spinning (w)heel kicks, long knee strikes
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*"Flat-Footed or On Toes When Kicking?"*
*Capoeira:* _Uhmmm...we use hands_
@jeff knox İt's traditional martial art that includes Brazilian Jiujitsu in it. Do some research before trash commenting.
@jeff knox i've seen someone's skull get cracked open from a meia lua de compasso during a roda because they didnt dodge fast enough. The dancing is just how you practice capoeira but make no mistake it is deadly.
@@Epicvampire800 and I've seen someone brake their ankle during a tango.
@@Krelgarsh I think he did plenty research. Jazzercise uses jabs, kicks, and crosses. That doesn't make it kickboxing.
@@dfiala9890 getting your skull cracked open with somebody else's heel is different than twisting your ankle. I use what i've learned in capoeira in mma and it certainly works. Just like every other martial art its more about the martial artist than the martial art and everything has a use case, its just a question of getting to that use case. And the what's great about capoeira is it teaches you how to pull off some badass victory dances.
Shane, I'm convinced you read my mind.
" it's okay Shane, side kicks do work "
What's that supposed to mean? :D
@@nikolab.4065 check Shane's Instagram post
😄 thanks for the #peptalk Bryan
I was actually just wondering this yesterday kinda a weird coincidence
Coincidence, right.
Me too,i even talked to a friend on discord about this
Same just an hour ago, I guess he's a medium
Mark Wallis he knows!!!!!!! Same here
Mark Wallis google and TH-cam sees and hear all..
You can really read our 3 am minds and answered it when we needed it thanks man!
What about front snap kicks? I remember Anderson Silva was on the ball of his back foot when he landed the snap kick to Vitor Belfort’s chin. Does this add more power to a snap kick?
With the front snap kicks you dont have too much hip rotation, since you already stand sideways. So without the pivot you dont really have to be on your toes. But if maybe your flexibility makes it hard for you to reach the other guys head you definitely can get up on your toes. Im pretty sure i used to stand flat footed but it wasnt a conscious thing, i just did it because it worked like that for me.
Yes
Maybe he just was just tryin hard to reach high enough and did it without thinking
Maybe it was unintentional, sometimes opportunity opens up when you least expect it and you're not in your stance and you just need to react now.
Well i view it like this: a push kick needs a lot of “push.” Meaning stability and power. Cause you move your opponents body. If you snap kick to head however you just need speed and probably height as well.
Excellent ! For low-kicks in the legs it is for sure flat-flooted kicks. Many people make mistake. Thank you !
So linear kicks would be an earth elemental attack then
Yea
I can kick to head height but only with momentum. I can’t hold my foot up there, please do a vid on this!
Stretch everyday, try to kick with less momentum, and try to keep ur foot in the air
L_Link practice practice practice!
Practice your balance stand on one foot and lift the other for as high and as long as you can
Why do you want to hold your foot up there?
Its not necessarily just practice. I started with my homie at the same time. But he could easily hold after one year, I still can't even after 18 years. Why? Its not practice in my case, but actually my hips. Stretching only helps for your soft tissue, not for bone structure. But in most cases its certainly stretching and muscle training (systematically holding the leg in the air)!
1:24 I think I'll die if I ever get hit with that
I’ll probably be dead before I get hit
I’ll probably die from the wind of the kick when I’m about to be hit by that
Damn that feint low kick to the head was beautiful
Informative straight ahead man! No bs video, thanks for the work man!
I just getting back to it and been practice the basic moves to roundhouse and tornado kicks and I am out if shape lmao my God you always think im not that bad of shape and the. You actually do activities and your sting lmao back to the grind
Been doing taekwondo since summer started and I wanted to get a better understanding of how it is. Thank you Shane for helping me understand more appreciate you and you're ever growing wisdom
Dutch style low kick stay flat footed with that angle step...good stuff
I would say you should try to always go rise up to the ball of your foot, personally. I threw a round house during pad training, of course being fatigued my thinking and form wasn't as sharp and i threw flat footed. This made it hard to turn over the hip and i injured my support legs knee because my whole body was in the turning with the motion but my foot being flat footed didn't turn as well as it would if i was up on my toes
NO WAY, 2 months ago I dislocated my dominant support knee as well. In literally the exact same way. This is the reason I'm at this video in the first place and its cool to see someone else who went through something similar.
I always fight with toe front leg and flat with back leg in kickboxing
If anyone would deserve the iron fist. It's this guy.
Both! or alternating! so u can fake or bait a kick!
Wow! Very informative. I was wondering why my lower kick didn't work well. I, now know the reason. Thanks mate, cheers!
Random question: I have a flat feet. Is there any time of kicks that I cant do because of my flat feet? Please anybody answer me if you know.
Can you do one on the same foot topic but talk about punching to add to the boxing method.
Finally, someone does a video on this, and I find it pretty useful. Explaining which kick you use the pivot for and for which ones you don't is pretty good information and it helps lots of people starting their mma paths, or just their normal learning of self defense.
It's ok Shane, sike kicks do work.
Thanks shane!
Everyone doing a push kick while pushing into the ground will push the earth out of orbit.
Shane you need to react to Martial arts based anime like Kengan Asura, Baki ,Hajime no ippo and analyze if there is any realism in them.
Baki is by far the least realistic out of these 3.
if he is not a fan of anime, it's definitely too much information for him to analyze. I doubt he'd bother.
Samin SaQlain there are more useful things for him to make videos about
@@copa593 He did make a video on senzu beans
Even as a manga fan. I really dont think thats a good idea
Im usually on my toes for all kicks and sometimes I slip if im not warmed up
On toes, a partner I was working with dislocated their knee because they kicked in their flat foot
Ouch 😖 The rotation of your body will get caught in your knee if you don't pivot on your foot, with circular (round) kicks! You don't have to worry about this problem with linear kicks, though.
Wow amazing you are the best
I'm starting to feel like Shane's reading my mind! Everytime I have a question in my head he answers with a video! Great content.
could you givve more tips on how to pivot the foot while kicking? "the toes almost face towards behind" seems so difficult when i tried
my foot is like glued on the ground
Could you please do something like this for punching please?
Thiago Santos leg-kicks Jones with flat foot. Hope Santos recovers quickly.
And he injured his own knee during the fight when he threw the kick
Not toes, but the ball of the foot. 😁
Damn them kicks sounded like a trip to the hospital🔥
How about Bruce Lee's side kick from far distance? :)
after a push shuffle you pendulum step and stomp the ground when you kick. if u read tao of jkd it teaches u how to land it like 90% plus(in my experience). wont give u the super simple tip lee gives. ive saved it and used it and never once been countered. at most they walked away and it missed because we were sparring. ill tell u everything besides that hidden gem from the book.. practice both extremes of side kick. do just extension then do just retraction. *BONUS* after a meaningful amount of time you can work snapping the hip at the end of the kick. no one does it. im dead serious. ive watched many jkd instructors not have an understanding of the snap of it. there is an excellent old jkd seminar on yt you could still find. you will know u found the one when it goes over the kick exercise i did. at the beginning dont study anything other than jan fan jkd. trust me im not getting into it here but you will thank me. if u haven't read the tao of jkd stop trying to kick like bruce download it or buy it and read it. its better than steroids for fighting. id call it cheat codes. many things will go over your head. years later you will see yourself doing things you never understood from the book. but your doing it flawlessly. i dont hit it hits. ive done it about 3 times in my life. its fucking amazing. dude pulled his arm back to swing before i could think or react i already punched him and had to go did i do that. thats odd i didnt tell my muscle to do it. but my muscles had the memory and knew what to do. so push shuffle then pendulum then stomp and snap it at the end. there is many discussions on the footwork just trust this internet guy you have never met who is taking time to write this response. i know alot about fighting someone would pay me but idk im kinda just after learning jkd. the concepts. hand before foot. modified wing chun simple direct effective. no telegraph and learn how to feint well. like master feinting and then forget it and master it again and your good enough at feinting. if u find the hidden part of the SK i didnt say DO NOT TELL ANYONE. Bruce already did if someone was competent and wanted to master the side kick they would inevitably figure it out or someone would tell them once they earned it. if everyone knew it well id counter the fuck out of them because i know it but thats not the point. you cant show anyone with any kind of character high level martial arts. we dont need "Bad Guys" out there using this in the wrong way. its like teaching gun retention to a mugger. he has great skills now but he is robbing stores where if he didnt know retention someone could have stopped him. considering i put where to find it i could if i only knew the book it was in i could find it in an afternoon or less. much likely much less. also dont kick full force without hitting something. its bad for you or so ive heard. another thing ive heard is to much bag work makes you dull. balance but seriously i dont full out kick to nothing but air. good luck and i wish you the best.
you would land on a flat foot btw pretty sure that was the whole question u had lol. got carried away
Nice
Shane should I hit the bag before or after weight lifting ? I train at UFC for fighting and go to la fitness to do weights but I don’t know if hitting the bag before is good to warm up body or affecting my weight lifting performance? Should I do it before doing weights or after my workout ? Please reply
I’ve got a tougher question. Raised or flat heel in footwork. One provides more explosive attacks, the other more stability
how can i become more flexible for kicks, i cannot kick straight past my belly button
Try doing flexibility exercises every day
@@xCheatah do you recommend a resistance band or something?
nope, you first need to get the range of motion then you can use resistance to strength those muscles. in tkd you first practice technique and flexibility then add speed power and strength!
Is it normal to get toe bloed blisters from pivots?
I also wondered about it recently, just as a few other people in the comments. Weird, isn't it? Maybe this is a detail we see done by advanced kickboxers but it rarely gets explained so well. Thanks!
High kick leg exercises please
Why would anyone think that Side Kicks don't work?!
what about the MTP-Joint? When missing a kick due to range i only hit with the big toe so it bends. Do you have Toe Conditioning??
What about something like an axe kick?
When are you shipping the gloves out? I bought mine right when they got out
90% science 10% MMA relating
How does this apply in regards to knees?
And for the front-kick (not teep)? instagram.com/p/B51lc7yAo0a/?igshid=as858frumd5n
So basically high kick to face and shoulder pivot on the ball foot leg kick and body kick flat footed
I use both, sometimes I mix up which kicks I use flat or on toes for.
Sometimes you find something that works both ways, but not all that often x)
I hope you see this comment because I’m having serious problems with my high roundhouse kick. I seriously can’t keep my balance what so ever going on the balls of my feet do you have any tips to help me improve this?!🙏🏻
One more exception, when teeping I'm able to go onto the ball of my foot and still deliver maximum power. It allows for a quick snap, full extension + height, quick return, and delivers more power for me.
I have a question.
Do you mean "ON THE TOE" is ""
on the thumb" or "on the ball of toe "?
could you give me tips on how to properly do an armbar. i keep hurting my nuts when i secure armbars in my sparring
Mainly you wear cups, try to bridge up with your back so all the torque goes into the arm and control the thumb
My TKD school, doesn't teach a back kick. Only back sidekick and back front kick. Is this normal? They claim a "donkey" or "horse" style of kick is not correct???
I have no idea wth a back front kicks is but from what I believe, the "horse" style back kick is one of the traditional basic kicks, much like the front snap kick, side kick and turning kick, and is the foundation of most 180 spinning techniques. It should be taught while in one of the more advanced colour belts like green belt onwards. It's still used in WTF point style competition as it is a fast counter kick and worth extra points, but if yur school puts more emphasis on self defense rather then techniques for competition they would likely prefer the back side kick which has alot more explosive power at the cost of some speed. Neither technique is necessarily wrong (except the "back front kick" coz I haven't got the slightest clue what that is) if anything the "horse" kick should be more correct in a traditional sense.
@@BancerPlaysMC thank you for such a great reply! Let me explain...
In a traditional stance, left foot forward, right foot back, a front kick is a straight thrusting kick, with your left/front foot.
As taught to me, a BACK front kick, is from the same stance (left foot forward, right foot back), but the rear/right leg kicks a straight, thrusting kick. It's the first kick they teach you at white belt. I am a white belt.
@@BancerPlaysMC yes, our school is more self defense, than points or competition.
@@Twobarpsi oh ok I get what u mean by a back front kick now. I was envisioning some weird 360 front kick when u said back front kick coz I know that technique simply as a front or front snap kick.
@@BancerPlaysMC thanks again for the great reply!
I AM flat footed ..like i dont have arch ..when i throw a roundhouse ..is it abysmally bad ?
Any tips to help people with flat foot ? Literally no foot curve. Punches and kicks for someone with a flat foot
weird, all muay thai guru said we should rise up as we kick, to avoid being pushed back if we were on flat-footed
Kicking on toes 100 percent if you kick flat footed you put incredible force on your knees look up Cro Cop ,Aerts ,Bonjajsky or any Thais yes Bas kicked flat footed with side step and his knees are totally shot. And he had to finish his career early because of that.you can do side step and be on your toes.The power difference is not gonna be great and you are saving your knees.
Well as a 4th dan black belt if you kick standing on your toes you need to go back to beginners lessons. First rule never lift your heel when kicking
Ok yea but do side kicks work Shane?
pleashe shir will you do a video on stepping when u kick. as in u step your foot at an angle liek u did for the low kick. i think i was taught to take a step b4 i throw the high kick. turn the front foot outwards and pivot. hope that makes sense. would like to see your take. i noticed you just pivot on the ball of your foot for some of the kicks where i would take the step have my foot at an angle possibly telegraphing it. thanks buhby
Holy shit i whas just thinking about that and bam there is your video
For some reason one of my feet doesn’t pivot as good on the ball of feet and my toes feel like they’re gonna break
How many set/reps?
Tnq so much brother... From india
Threw a kick on toes in training.Losts my balance and tore my ancle ligament. Never kicking on toes again.
*ACL has entered the chat*
On your toes
He is American and less talk & more action.👍
How can I book a private session with you when I’m in town?
2 mio
Can you teach us Alis shuffle?
Can you do a cheat step to do a body kick
Flat for front kick and teeps
It depends if you are a flat earther or not
Correct practice makes perfect, not just "practice" (e.g., Shaq). He "practiced shooting freethrows daily but did not practice shooting them "correctly". Nevertheless, I enjoy your content Mr. Shane.
Here after the cub fight
Shane u should fight in ufc. Win or lose doesn't matter. I belive I'd really enjoy watching you fight in the ufc.
What about shoes?
I'll be honest. I stumbled across the video and saw you speaking. Wasn't 100% sure if this would be a legit channel or not. And then that kick at 1:24. Hit subscribe.
I pivot in all situations except if I'm trying to either chop down and/or following a right hook (I'm a southpaw) I try to jump onto that right leg and throw that big swinging kick.
Shane, Who do you think lands the best calf kick in MMA? For me it's Justin Gaethje.
I do karate where we dont train leg kicks that much, so forgive me if this is common knowledge. When I do kick to the leg, why is less rotation of the hips required? Wouldnt you want as much rotation as possible to make it stronger?
Shane my coach keeps saying when I punch am pivoting wrong, or bad foot movement any exercise you recommend
My left kicks has less torque since im not good enough so turnin on balls give me speed n more round motion. Also im short so my high kicks are on balls of my foot to reach higher. If im fightin with smb same height or shorter flat is what i do cause its balance. Dont forget its not a one kick ko fight usually. And u can miss. If u miss u dont wanna be in a lost balance position.
I'm on toes
You should universally strive to attain the flexibility for flat foot kicking because it's Superior in every conceivable facet, especially crossover potential to MMA. The only reason people rise up to their toes is because they lack the flexibility and are subconsciously reaching higher, it's a flaw in smart kicking however has becoming ingrained because so many people fail to recognize how important it is to sink your center of gravity DOWN as you throw most of your kicks. whenever you rise up to your toes you're bouncing your COG upward and you become take down/sweep bait... don't do it
forums.sherdog.com/threads/tippy-toes-a-no-no-a-better-way-to-kick.3894957/
Think about a Thai style roundhouse kick to the head, and picture the difference in trajectory (even if you have "perfect" flexibility). If you rise onto the ball of your foot, it allows you to kick more at a sideways angle, as opposed to an upward angle if you remain flat-footed. This makes it harder to defend, as you're striking around/over your opponents guard.
The rise of your center of gravity makes you lighter on your support leg, admittedly, but it also sends more of your momentum into the kicking leg.
Practice both, obsessively, and let me know what you find 👍
@@fighttips I believe the angle of the hip (thus the kick) *punt vs round* is unaffected by the foot lift but the COG (center of gravity) very much is. By "bouncing" up as you kick you become far too easy to trip, sweep or lift so strive to "sink" down on a flat foot as the kick flys. I believe the thai habit of popping up on the ball is simply a result of poor flexibility and disregard of the takedown as fighting karate advocates for the flat foot and MMA plus heavier European kickboxing athletes often kick that way.
Ive Been obsessed with kickboxing since the 80ties but Im also a grappling/MMA coach with some traditional karate/tkd/judo in my background.
I consider this a basic flaw in modern MuayThai kicking theory and looked back at classic MT where it seemed far less common...i think it has to do with the reduction of slam style counters and the flexibility/simplicity of Thai training vs something like fighting karate or TKD that has way more diversity in the kicks
Can you make a similar video about the foot that's kicking?
Like when should you hit with the ball, bottom, side and heel of the foot?
Thanks for the tutorials!
If its a spinning kick hit heel. If push kick bottom of ur foot. Other than that u hit with the shin, not foot.
@@neverbeaten
Push kick is more the ball of the foot.
I'm talking about kicks that use the foot, so no muay thai style roundhouse kicks.
Also I'd like to know what Shane things about the side kick and kicking the side of the foot vs. the bottom of the foot.
Why the hell isn't this talked about in Taekwondo
oh. Cos we're always bouncing up and down and falling over.
I am a complete beginner. Only two weeks into training and my trainer says to pivot on toes for kicks. Right now we are doing low kicks and now I think I know why it feels so uncomfortable because I’m trying to get up on my toes and pivot while trying to throw a low kick.
Actually u dont need to think flat or toes. The correct tecnique is the one that feels natural. That u can do perfectly balanced n strong without exhausting urself.
You have to b on you toes to spin back kick and front kick toes to kick higher
How about landing with the heel or with tiptoes? I´ve seen both variants for many kicks, but I simply can´t stretch out my foot like this and get my toes out of the way.
Shane I couldnt agree more buddy. It all make sense.
When you go high and pivot on the ball of the foot you get even higher.
Shane,l got a question.When is the best time of the day to workout and do combat training?
Thats what i try to explain my students. You added some good explainations.Thanks you. Greetings from Germany
bro you should add some slow motion + break down showing finer details for some people