That's for sure! He made his receivers better by buying time with his scrambling that enabled them to get open and make receptions that they normally would not have made.
He only played one full 16 game season (not counting his abbreviated '77 season due to injury). If he had played 14 seasons with 2 more games each season, that's 28 more games. He averaged 1.39 td passes per game, so that's another 39 td passes for a total of 381 td passes. That would make him tied 9th all-time with Matt Ryan.
@@stevenzimmerman4057 Hey wait a minute, those old guys aren't supposed to be able to catch like THAT! That's only the 21st century 8 figure a year divas that CAN do that!
Great clips, again. I like it when you call out the names of the players during the play because they are often not on the teams I normally associate them with, and the names are not visible nor on their jerseys. Another video where sidelines were just suggestions, and the Raiders didn't invent that! Liked and subscribed.
Thanks for liking and subscribing! Yeah, not only was the sidelines chalk merely a suggestion, but in order to qualify as a late hit, the refs would have needed to count 3 Mississippi's after the ballcarrier was first tackled.
CB's were deathly afraid of him running the fly route, so they gave him a lot of cushion. He made a lot of yardage on short pass patterns like the ones in this video on account of that cushion.
@@markgardner9460 my dad saw them play at both yankee stadium and polo grounds. He told me yankee stadium was great for football but polo grounds was better. In fact he said horrible for baseball but great for football.
Yes, the dimensions for the Polo Grounds was ridiculous for baseball. Strangely, there were no polo games ever played there, so why they named it that is beyond me.
@@markgardner9460 that was like the fourth venue called the polo grounds. I guess at the very first one they actually did play polo at it and when they moved, they just kept the name but left the ponies at home.
1967. The year I was born. Boy how things have changed! There were still a few guys playing from these clips that I can recall from the mid 1970’s when I started to watch games. Osborn from the Vikings, was probably the guy who stands out the most and of course Sir Francis. Always found it hard to believe that Kilmer was a standout RB in college. I just don’t see it. Great footage Mark. Thank you!
Dave Osborn and Bill "Boom Boom" Brown were 3 yards and a cloud of dust. It was basic smashmouth football back then - I loved it! Yeah, Kilmer didn't look to be too athletic, but he played basketball for John Wooden at UCLA during the '59-'60 season. Thanks, Evan!
@@markgardner9460 The Vikings were primed to take Super Bowl IV but Hank Stram devised an offense and defense plan that worked like a charm and shut them down.
@@markgardner9460Ozzie and Brown were hard nosed, physical running backs ( as you well know!) Osborn had a little bit of speed before he blew his knee out in 1968 In 1967 he averaged 4.5 a carry and had a career high 1244 yards from scrimmage ..And Brown had the stunning 76 yard TD pass from Fran against Los Angeles in 1972
Lance Rentzel was a missing piece the Cowboys offense needed. Bob Hayes had decent hands to go with his Olympic speed. But The Cowboys needed someone to take defenders off Hayes. And one who could make catch the go-to pass. Lance was that guy. 1967 was an up and down year for Dallas. Dandy was in and out of the lineup. Morton did a pretty good job keeping the team afloat by winning some key games with Meredith on the shelf. The other element that kept them winning was an outstanding Doomsday Defense. The one thing they didn't have was a power running game to lean on. That was one thing that would hurt them in the Ice Bowl in Green Bay. Still they made some impressive strides for a team that started 0-11-1 just a few years earlier.
Yes, from that poor 1960 season when they were 0-11-1, they steadily improved each year. Don Perkins wasn't very big for a fullback in 1967, but he really ran hard.
@@markgardner9460 Coach Landry liked his Running Backs to be versatile. And able to play both HB and FB. Perkins, Garrison, and Newhouse were all light for their position compared to the typical FB that usually went at least 220 lbs.
@@markgardner9460 Robert Newhouse also went about 209lbs. And he ran tough enough to be called the "Bowling Ball with legs". The two exceptions were Calvin Hill and Duane Thomas who both went about 220lbs.
"The Can Opener Technique"! I had not heard of that before. Dick "Night Train" Lane also utilized the swinging arm tackling technique to great success and intimidation.
The can opener was used by Villapiano- he is seen applying it to OJ in a you tube video….Hardy Brown - a 49ers LB in 50s had a wicked forearm under the chin technique that would dislodge the helmet and knock you out
Timmy Brown..."Spearchucker" Jone s on MASH season 1! Only Philly player with 2 kickoff return TDs in the same game, and led the NFL in all purpose yards in 62 and 63,! Sneaky good!
Big Walter Johnson (71) DT for Cleveland was very strong - making some key stops in the win vs the Vikes. IMO, Cleveland’s best defensive player and underrated at that position in that era.
In 1967, Walter made the first of three consecutive Pro Bowl appearances. I just looked him up and was surprised that he played his last season ('77) with Cinci. Thank you for bringing him up.
What uniforms they had back then - Steelers, with the gold epauls on the jerseys. Lots of fans did not like the gold shoulder adornments, but I thought they were cool. Saints unis were sharp and Redskins, with the best of all time. I think the Saints beat the Eagles in New Orleans that year. Saints middle linebacker, #53, was Dick Absher, who had backed up Tommy Nobis in Atlanta the year before. He was the starter in New Orleans and would probably never seen as much action if he had continued backing an All Pro like Nobis in Atlanta. Real shootouts the Skins and Cowboys had back then. Surprised Cowboys were sacked six times in this game, though. Redskins struggled defensively back then. Dismal season for the Vikings but they'd win their division in 1968 when the injury riddled Bears, who beat Green Bay once and the Vikings twice, faded at the end of the 1968 season. Browns' WR, Gary Collins, 86, with a Joe Namath wire facemask, for 1967 only, though. Tackling Homer Jones, at 6' 5" and 225 pounds must have been like trying to drag a giraffe to the ground. Saints had some gangbusters on defense; Linebacker, Steve Stonebreaker (#35) from the Colts, Whitsell, Atkins and Earl Leggett from the Bears, etc. Steelers defense wasn't The Steel Curtain, but they were wicked. Their offense was not good and that D stayed out there a lot. Bill Nelson was the best of several quarterbacks the Steelers used back then.
Gary Collins wasn't as big as Homer Jones, but he was still a big target for Browns QB's. I hadn't noticed his facemask - thanks for pointing that out! Just one year for that style and he was done with it. I love those Saints uniforms - some of the best of all-time! Washington's was a great color scheme that was uncluttered & I liked 'em , too.
Saints had a great uniform! It's pretty surprising the Eagles pounded them 48-21 because Philly was a mediocre team at best then( I know the Saints were a expansion team!) and a King Hill sighting!He played from 58-68 despite completing less than 49 percent of his passes and a abysmal 37td 71 int! He was drafted 1st! overall by the Chicago Cardinals,as noted a not very good quarterback who also punted which may have helped him stay around longer...later became assistant coach/offensive coordinator for the Oilers,first under the inept Bill Peterson,then later Bum Phillips who said Hill was a very effective OC,Hill was also
I looked up King Hill and was surprised that he played for the Vikes in '68 & wore Fran's old #10, then played for the Cards in '69 (1 pass attempt & completion).
Jim Kelly, who came in for Mike Ditka in that Eagles game, was the subject of a recent JaguarGator9 video where the Eagles cut him then tried to claim him back after the Colts picked him up on waivers.
ok just watched the Brownies and have two comments: 1. they were in the Century not Capital Division. 2. Ben Davis (cornerback) had a famous actually infamous sister. Name her! another great video w lots of memories!
The thumbnail reminded me that a few weeks ago, at a thrift store, I saw a perfect, vintage, number 10 Tarkenton jersey, Vikings version, for 10 bucks, and I tried it on whispering, "Please fit, please fit..." It fit perfectly. Now when I wear it I torture my friends with my best Howard Cosell saying, "And here he is, the GREAT ONE! Out of Georgia University, I'm speaking OF COURSE of number 10, Sir Francis ASBURY Tarkenton, the cagey, evanescent, elusive one!" You know, I always thought Vince Lombardi generally got caricatured as an inflexible, stubborn, narcissistic, hard nosed dictator, even though most accounts from the players portrayed a coach who got the best from the specific talents and personalities of each player. Seeing Sonny Jurgensen, with that strange, but incredibly beautiful and effective throwing motion reminded me how, when Lombardi took over the Redskins, he recognized the talent of Jurgensen, built the offense around that, rather than, say, bringing over a copy of a running attack led by the Packer Sweep, and the Redskins had their first winning season in 15 years, passing the ball, as Jurgensen dominated the League. Anyway, just an opinion, but this was another great video among many.
I could hear Howard's voice when I read your post! I read a TV Guide from the late '70's that had an article about Cosell. He was #1 by a wide margin in the two polled categories "Most Liked NFL Announcer" and "Least Liked NFL Announcer". The greatest coaches adapt their offensive and defensive philosophies to the talent provided to them. Lombardi was wise in that regard, as was Don Shula who switched his offense from a ball control rushing team to one of a passing team when the Dolphins drafted Marino. I read a Lombardi quote that said Jurgensen was the best quarterback that he had ever seen and that he may well have been the greatest ever. That is a tremendous compliment
As stated before,if Lombardi had lived a few more years, what would the Redskins have done? I'm pretty sure Billy Kilmer wouldn't have been the starting QB!
I like those Eagle uniforms, along with their 1970-73 uniforms, their 1974-84, and their 1985-95 uniforms, all of which in my opinion are a lot better than the ones they wear now.
1967 highlights you see players in their last games such as King Hill, Red Phillips, Randy Minnear,,, Lenny Moore, Ray Berry, Jim Parker - all these guys retired after 67 season
Wow! Moore, Berry and Parker all retired after the '67 season. All of them are at the very top of their positions all-time. I always thought that King Hill had a cool name. Former Colt Buzz Nutter was another name that comes to mind - remember him?
It's been a crazy rivalry through the years to say the least. And it all goes back to Clint Murchinson Jr. and George Preston Marshall. The story is well known. Marshall was against expansion in 1960. But thanks to connections on Capital Hill, and some good old fashioned blackmail involving the famous Redskins fight-song(Hail To The Redskins) Murchinson had Marshall beat. And the Cowboys would be admitted in 1960, and Minnesota in 1961. Just a little tale from the lore of the Dallas vs Washington saga.
@@markgardner9460 Raiders/Chiefs is always brawl ready to happen. But sometimes a football game does break out. But I might say the best rivalry in the AFC in those days was Raiders/Steelers. Especially as they played each other in 5 straight brutal playoff games.
Great footage, great commentary. (Trivial, but Browns were in the Century Division, which was named "Century," because who the hell knows? All the division names began with C, so why not?)
Great stuff as always. I'm curious to know when the NFL changed from endzone flags to cones. Also, I've never understood why players would allow a chinstrap to dangle while playing. Seems like it would be very distracting, but a ton of players today let their mouth guards flap around while playing, too. If you're not going to use it, why wear it?
The NFL switched in 1974 in an attempt to improve player safety. Wide Receiver Ben Hawkins let his chin strap dangle out of habit from his college days at Arizona State where he unsnapped it in order to let the air get at his chin and relieve him of the desert heat aggravation. I agree with you - either use it properly or get rid of it.
Meredith did not pronate his throws instead he used dorsi-flexion palmer-flexion (the inverted golf swing). I'm the physics professor who discovered this. Now I've got so-called football throwing experts starting to listen. From one Don to another Don. RIP Don you are not forgotten.
@@markgardner9460 Jurgensen was a talented though pudgy all-around athlete who could have played pro basketball at the time. He could also throw behind his back and did in a game. When I approached the NFL about my work in throwing underhand passes as part of a more exciting game they of course stalled with the classic: Don't call us and we won't call you. However, since my NFL encounter, I learned of Sonny's talent (Marino could also go behind the back though never did in a game) and then found out Harold Carmichael could throw an underhand pass 50 yards - ten yards further than my longest underhand. I think I'll bother the NFL again. Manning (i.e., Archie) could and did throw underhand over 20 yards several times during his "Run for your life" career.
@@markgardner9460 While with the 1970s Eagles Jaworski and Gabriel (who could throw 80 yards) said Carmichael could throw from end zone to end zone. Carmichael saying his longest throw was 105 yards. Ditka said that Rifle Rudy Bukich with 1960s Bears could regularly throw 90 yards and saw him break 100 yards. Until I learned recently of Bukich, I thought Bobby Douglass was at the top of the Bears list. In any case, none of them were phony like Uncle Rico who could throw the pigskin a country mile.
One thing I notice is the use of the half back option pass. Maybe it’s me but it seems no teams run this play anymore. I’ve always thought it’s a good play.
@markgardner9460 They played on Monday Night Football during 1970 season Eagles upset Giants 23-20 there was a Howard Cosell sighting at Franklin Field
While at Arizona State, he unsnapped it in order to let the air get at his chin. He said the desert heat bother him. When he got to the NFL, he continued to adopt this practice as a part of habit.
...and the Vikings #24 Brady Keyes had one bounce off his hands after it had bounced off Gary Collins hands..............and Collins ended up catching it in the end.
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real football on a grass field , thanks Mark . Tarkington deserves more respect than he gets !
That's for sure! He made his receivers better by buying time with his scrambling that enabled them to get open and make receptions that they normally would not have made.
Sir Francis! As Cosell would call him.
@@alwaysright7063 yes .indeed
@@markgardner9460 46 years after Fran Tarkenton retired he still ranks 12th in all-time TD passes! He was 1st when he retired!
He only played one full 16 game season (not counting his abbreviated '77 season due to injury). If he had played 14 seasons with 2 more games each season, that's 28 more games. He averaged 1.39 td passes per game, so that's another 39 td passes for a total of 381 td passes. That would make him tied 9th all-time with Matt Ryan.
Giants TE Aaron Thomas (88) just passed away at age 86. He had 37 career TDs - 9 TD catches in ‘67. Rip big # 88.
Saw Jim Katcavage and Spider Lockhart in there too ! Those were the days !
Katcavage was quite the pass rushed. His 20 1/2 sacks in a 14 game season ('63) is very impressive.
It’s amazing how long the 3 Vikings defensive linemen were together: Page, Eller, and Marshall 😊😊😊😊😊
The Purple People Eater's mantra was "Let's meet at the Quarterback!"
@@markgardner9460 I remember that well
Page Eller and Marshall played together from 67-78(.when Page got inexplicably released!) almost 12 seasons together!
And #77 Gary Larsen
@@GBst1007All 4 of them made all pro in 1969!
Simpler times. Much more interesting than anything nowadays. Have a nice weekend Mark.
Thanks, you too!
Ah, Cleveland stadium, not fit for man or beast. This is textbook hard nosed football. I love it! Thanks brother, you're appreciated.
Hard nosed football, indeed. I love it...and miss it!
Cleveland's Municipal Stadium has to have had the most muddy games of any stadium in history.
Love the sound at 10:00 on Hawkins second TD!
@@stevenzimmerman4057 Hey wait a minute, those old guys aren't supposed to be able to catch like THAT! That's only the 21st century 8 figure a year divas that CAN do that!
@@jammininthepast Talent is talent no matter when they played!
The Ben Hawkins touchdown catch at 10:10 would be 10 or 12 minute review in today's NFL
That's about right! I can't stand those unnecessarily long reviews.
Great clips, again. I like it when you call out the names of the players during the play because they are often not on the teams I normally associate them with, and the names are not visible nor on their jerseys.
Another video where sidelines were just suggestions, and the Raiders didn't invent that!
Liked and subscribed.
Thanks for liking and subscribing! Yeah, not only was the sidelines chalk merely a suggestion, but in order to qualify as a late hit, the refs would have needed to count 3 Mississippi's after the ballcarrier was first tackled.
Bullet Bob Hayes was one of the fastest individuals to ever put on a football uniform
CB's were deathly afraid of him running the fly route, so they gave him a lot of cushion. He made a lot of yardage on short pass patterns like the ones in this video on account of that cushion.
Hayes was at one time the fastest human on earth.
@@MichaelPiz absolutely..that Olympic type speed….people just seem to forget because he played 50 years ago..u no.
Jolly good show mate😊
Glad you enjoyed it! Thank you!
This brought back memories. My dad was a Giants fan and I remember watching these games with him.
It would have been cool to watch games at Yankee Stadium in those seats that were basically ground level in one of those end zones (perhaps both?)
@@markgardner9460 my dad saw them play at both yankee stadium and polo grounds. He told me yankee stadium was great for football but polo grounds was better. In fact he said horrible for baseball but great for football.
Yes, the dimensions for the Polo Grounds was ridiculous for baseball. Strangely, there were no polo games ever played there, so why they named it that is beyond me.
@@markgardner9460 that was like the fourth venue called the polo grounds. I guess at the very first one they actually did play polo at it and when they moved, they just kept the name but left the ponies at home.
Good info - thank you for providing!
As has been noted a number of times on this channel, Sonny definitely threw a beautiful ball!
Absolutely! I was amazed on a couple of plays where A.D. Whitfield turned and the ball was right there - perfect passes.
Please bring back this kind of football
I'd love to see it, but I think it's gone forever.
1967. The year I was born. Boy how things have changed! There were still a few guys playing from these clips that I can recall from the mid 1970’s when I started to watch games. Osborn from the Vikings, was probably the guy who stands out the most and of course Sir Francis. Always found it hard to believe that Kilmer was a standout RB in college. I just don’t see it. Great footage Mark. Thank you!
Me too, I was probably 2 months old here. I didn’t start watching football till the 76 season.
Dave Osborn and Bill "Boom Boom" Brown were 3 yards and a cloud of dust. It was basic smashmouth football back then - I loved it! Yeah, Kilmer didn't look to be too athletic, but he played basketball for John Wooden at UCLA during the '59-'60 season. Thanks, Evan!
@@markgardner9460 The Vikings were primed to take Super Bowl IV but Hank Stram devised an offense and defense plan that worked like a charm and shut them down.
Plus the Chiefs offensive and defensive lines dwarfed that of the Vikings
@@markgardner9460Ozzie and Brown were hard nosed, physical running backs ( as you well know!) Osborn had a little bit of speed before he blew his knee out in 1968 In 1967 he averaged 4.5 a carry and had a career high 1244 yards from scrimmage ..And Brown had the stunning 76 yard TD pass from Fran against Los Angeles in 1972
Lance Rentzel was a missing piece the Cowboys offense needed. Bob Hayes had decent hands to go with his Olympic speed. But The Cowboys needed someone to take defenders off Hayes. And one who could make catch the go-to pass. Lance was that guy. 1967 was an up and down year for Dallas. Dandy was in and out of the lineup. Morton did a pretty good job keeping the team afloat by winning some key games with Meredith on the shelf. The other element that kept them winning was an outstanding Doomsday Defense. The one thing they didn't have was a power running game to lean on. That was one thing that would hurt them in the Ice Bowl in Green Bay. Still they made some impressive strides for a team that started 0-11-1 just a few years earlier.
Yes, from that poor 1960 season when they were 0-11-1, they steadily improved each year. Don Perkins wasn't very big for a fullback in 1967, but he really ran hard.
@@markgardner9460 Coach Landry liked his Running Backs to be versatile. And able to play both HB and FB. Perkins, Garrison, and Newhouse were all light for their position compared to the typical FB that usually went at least 220 lbs.
Garrison weighed only 205 pounds, I think. Of course he played like he weighed 20 pounds more.
@@markgardner9460 Robert Newhouse also went about 209lbs. And he ran tough enough to be called the "Bowling Ball with legs". The two exceptions were Calvin Hill and Duane Thomas who both went about 220lbs.
It's amazing that Dallas drafted Hill and Thomas in back to back years
Hi Marc - Chris hamburger, Dave, Wilcox, and Phil Villapoano all like use the necktie or the can opener technique
"The Can Opener Technique"! I had not heard of that before. Dick "Night Train" Lane also utilized the swinging arm tackling technique to great success and intimidation.
The can opener was used by Villapiano- he is seen applying it to OJ in a you tube video….Hardy Brown - a 49ers LB in 50s had a wicked forearm under the chin technique that would dislodge the helmet and knock you out
This was the only time the Eagles wore white jerseys when they played at Franklin Field
Is that right? Very cool to know. Thanks!
If Lance Rentzel hadn't pulled his pants down at the wrong time he might have had a Lance Alworth type career.
Classic comment, Professor!
And he was with Joey Heatherton at the time,a beautiful but troubled lady,his arrest helped to derail both his and her career...
Timmy Brown..."Spearchucker" Jone s on MASH season 1! Only Philly player with 2 kickoff return TDs in the same game, and led the NFL in all purpose yards in 62 and 63,! Sneaky good!
He needs to get more credit.
@@stevenzimmerman4057 He was also on an episode of The Wild Wild West.
Big Walter Johnson (71) DT for Cleveland was very strong - making some key stops in the win vs the Vikes. IMO, Cleveland’s best defensive player and underrated at that position in that era.
In 1967, Walter made the first of three consecutive Pro Bowl appearances. I just looked him up and was surprised that he played his last season ('77) with Cinci. Thank you for bringing him up.
Johnson was a very good player!
The year before (1966) Meredith threw two TD bombs to Bob Hayes at Washington yet they barely won the game 31-30 on a last minute FG.
What uniforms they had back then - Steelers, with the gold epauls on the jerseys. Lots of fans did not like the gold shoulder adornments, but I thought they were cool.
Saints unis were sharp and Redskins, with the best of all time.
I think the Saints beat the Eagles in New Orleans that year. Saints middle linebacker, #53, was Dick Absher, who had backed up Tommy Nobis in Atlanta the year before. He was the starter in New Orleans and would probably never seen as much action if he had continued backing an All Pro like Nobis in Atlanta.
Real shootouts the Skins and Cowboys had back then. Surprised Cowboys were sacked six times in this game, though. Redskins struggled defensively back then.
Dismal season for the Vikings but they'd win their division in 1968 when the injury riddled Bears, who beat Green Bay once and the Vikings twice, faded at the end of the 1968 season.
Browns' WR, Gary Collins, 86, with a Joe Namath wire facemask, for 1967 only, though.
Tackling Homer Jones, at 6' 5" and 225 pounds must have been like trying to drag a giraffe to the ground.
Saints had some gangbusters on defense; Linebacker, Steve Stonebreaker (#35) from the Colts, Whitsell, Atkins and Earl Leggett from the Bears, etc.
Steelers defense wasn't The Steel Curtain, but they were wicked. Their offense was not good and that D stayed out there a lot. Bill Nelson was the best of several quarterbacks the Steelers used back then.
Gary Collins wasn't as big as Homer Jones, but he was still a big target for Browns QB's. I hadn't noticed his facemask - thanks for pointing that out! Just one year for that style and he was done with it.
I love those Saints uniforms - some of the best of all-time! Washington's was a great color scheme that was uncluttered & I liked 'em , too.
Saints had a great uniform! It's pretty surprising the Eagles pounded them 48-21 because Philly was a mediocre team at best then( I know the Saints were a expansion team!) and a King Hill sighting!He played from 58-68 despite completing less than 49 percent of his passes and a abysmal 37td 71 int! He was drafted 1st! overall by the Chicago Cardinals,as noted a not very good quarterback who also punted which may have helped him stay around longer...later became assistant coach/offensive coordinator for the Oilers,first under the inept Bill Peterson,then later Bum Phillips who said Hill was a very effective OC,Hill was also
I looked up King Hill and was surprised that he played for the Vikes in '68 & wore Fran's old #10, then played for the Cards in '69 (1 pass attempt & completion).
@@markgardner9460It was a jab at Fran Tarkenton giving King Hill #10! But he wasn't as remowned then!
Jim Kelly, who came in for Mike Ditka in that Eagles game, was the subject of a recent JaguarGator9 video where the Eagles cut him then tried to claim him back after the Colts picked him up on waivers.
ok just watched the Brownies and have two comments: 1. they were in the Century not Capital Division. 2. Ben Davis (cornerback) had a famous actually infamous sister. Name her! another great video w lots of memories!
Angela Davis?
you are correct sir!!
The thumbnail reminded me that a few weeks ago, at a thrift store, I saw a perfect, vintage, number 10 Tarkenton jersey, Vikings version, for 10 bucks, and I tried it on whispering, "Please fit, please fit..." It fit perfectly. Now when I wear it I torture my friends with my best Howard Cosell saying, "And here he is, the GREAT ONE! Out of Georgia University, I'm speaking OF COURSE of number 10, Sir Francis ASBURY Tarkenton, the cagey, evanescent, elusive one!"
You know, I always thought Vince Lombardi generally got caricatured as an inflexible, stubborn, narcissistic, hard nosed dictator, even though most accounts from the players portrayed a coach who got the best from the specific talents and personalities of each player. Seeing Sonny Jurgensen, with that strange, but incredibly beautiful and effective throwing motion reminded me how, when Lombardi took over the Redskins, he recognized the talent of Jurgensen, built the offense around that, rather than, say, bringing over a copy of a running attack led by the Packer Sweep, and the Redskins had their first winning season in 15 years, passing the ball, as Jurgensen dominated the League.
Anyway, just an opinion, but this was another great video among many.
I could hear Howard's voice when I read your post! I read a TV Guide from the late '70's that had an article about Cosell. He was #1 by a wide margin in the two polled categories "Most Liked NFL Announcer" and "Least Liked NFL Announcer".
The greatest coaches adapt their offensive and defensive philosophies to the talent provided to them. Lombardi was wise in that regard, as was Don Shula who switched his offense from a ball control rushing team to one of a passing team when the Dolphins drafted Marino. I read a Lombardi quote that said Jurgensen was the best quarterback that he had ever seen and that he may well have been the greatest ever. That is a tremendous compliment
As stated before,if Lombardi had lived a few more years, what would the Redskins have done? I'm pretty sure Billy Kilmer wouldn't have been the starting QB!
Hard hitting, and what’s interesting is no obnoxious showboating in the end zone after touchdowns. None of those guys had a tan in those days.
Didn’t like the Eagles 🦅 uniforms but loved the Saints!
Me too!! Too many goofy stripes on that Eagles jersey for me + the color seems weak.
I like those Eagle uniforms, along with their 1970-73 uniforms, their 1974-84, and their 1985-95 uniforms, all of which in my opinion are a lot better than the ones they wear now.
Was never crazy about the Steelers gold trim on the shoulder pads! I liked the camera work on the 10 yard FG from ground level!
Fran being Fran at 6:35!
Ben Hawkins was very underrated!
1967 highlights you see players in their last games such as King Hill, Red Phillips, Randy Minnear,,, Lenny Moore, Ray Berry, Jim Parker - all these guys retired after 67 season
Wow! Moore, Berry and Parker all retired after the '67 season. All of them are at the very top of their positions all-time. I always thought that King Hill had a cool name. Former Colt Buzz Nutter was another name that comes to mind - remember him?
@@markgardner9460Buzz Nutter great name!
King Hill was with the Vikings in 1968
@@michaelleroy9281 He couldn't unseat Joe Kapp..
@@michaelleroy9281 my bad … he also played for Eagles in 68 and Cards in 69
The Cowboys didn't have such a great day they were upset by the Redskins 27-20 who always gave the Cowboys great games in the mid 60s
Cowboys QB's were sacked 8X and Sonny Jurgensen wasn't sacked once.
It's been a crazy rivalry through the years to say the least. And it all goes back to Clint Murchinson Jr. and George Preston Marshall. The story is well known. Marshall was against expansion in 1960. But thanks to connections on Capital Hill, and some good old fashioned blackmail involving the famous Redskins fight-song(Hail To The Redskins) Murchinson had Marshall beat. And the Cowboys would be admitted in 1960, and Minnesota in 1961. Just a little tale from the lore of the Dallas vs Washington saga.
In the '70's, I think the top 2 rivalries have to be the Cowboys/Redskins followed by the Chiefs/Raiders
@@markgardner9460 Raiders/Chiefs is always brawl ready to happen. But sometimes a football game does break out. But I might say the best rivalry in the AFC in those days was Raiders/Steelers. Especially as they played each other in 5 straight brutal playoff games.
@@markgardner9460And for a short time Raiders Steelers
16:27--slight pass interference on Gary Collins by Dale Hackbart.
Holy cow Hackbart just about decapitated him!
Great protection for Sonny ! Nice " interception" by Dick Smith...it looked like a trap
Great footage, great commentary. (Trivial, but Browns were in the Century Division, which was named "Century," because who the hell knows? All the division names began with C, so why not?)
Yes, my mistake. Thank you for bringing that up and thanks for the kind comments!
Great stuff as always. I'm curious to know when the NFL changed from endzone flags to cones. Also, I've never understood why players would allow a chinstrap to dangle while playing. Seems like it would be very distracting, but a ton of players today let their mouth guards flap around while playing, too. If you're not going to use it, why wear it?
The NFL switched in 1974 in an attempt to improve player safety.
Wide Receiver Ben Hawkins let his chin strap dangle out of habit from his college days at Arizona State where he unsnapped it in order to let the air get at his chin and relieve him of the desert heat aggravation. I agree with you - either use it properly or get rid of it.
Meredith did not pronate his throws instead he used dorsi-flexion palmer-flexion (the inverted golf swing). I'm the physics professor who discovered this. Now I've got so-called football throwing experts starting to listen. From one Don to another Don. RIP Don you are not forgotten.
Dandy observation, Professor!
What's your take on Sonny?
@@markgardner9460 Jurgensen was a talented though pudgy all-around athlete who could have played pro basketball at the time. He could also throw behind his back and did in a game. When I approached the NFL about my work in throwing underhand passes as part of a more exciting game they of course stalled with the classic: Don't call us and we won't call you. However, since my NFL encounter, I learned of Sonny's talent (Marino could also go behind the back though never did in a game) and then found out Harold Carmichael could throw an underhand pass 50 yards - ten yards further than my longest underhand. I think I'll bother the NFL again. Manning (i.e., Archie) could and did throw underhand over 20 yards several times during his "Run for your life" career.
A teammate of Harold Carmichael in Harold's first two years in the league maintains that Camichael threw a pass 100 yards in practice.
@@markgardner9460 While with the 1970s Eagles Jaworski and Gabriel (who could throw 80 yards) said Carmichael could throw from end zone to end zone. Carmichael saying his longest throw was 105 yards. Ditka said that Rifle Rudy Bukich with 1960s Bears could regularly throw 90 yards and saw him break 100 yards. Until I learned recently of Bukich, I thought Bobby Douglass was at the top of the Bears list. In any case, none of them were phony like Uncle Rico who could throw the pigskin a country mile.
How did Billy Wade's arm rank with you - average?
Lance was catching more than TD's
One thing I notice is the use of the half back option pass. Maybe it’s me but it seems no teams run this play anymore. I’ve always thought it’s a good play.
I hear ya. They don't run the old statue of liberty play or the double reverse either.
Unique scoreboard at Franklin Field with yard line grid 13:49.
That's as old school as it gets! I kinda like it.
Not sure what purpose it served. Doesn’t appear that it illuminated. Maybe an old Eagle fan can elaborate.
There probably wasn't any night games played there, so they probably didn't have a need for it to be illuminated is my guess.
@markgardner9460 They played on Monday Night Football during 1970 season Eagles upset Giants 23-20 there was a Howard Cosell sighting at Franklin Field
Some people think that Steelers jersey is really neat it could be called their Batman style jerseys
It does somewhat resemble a cape-like look
So would that make the Vikings uniforms Joker style
Does anyone know why Ben Hawkins never buckled his chin strap
While at Arizona State, he unsnapped it in order to let the air get at his chin. He said the desert heat bother him. When he got to the NFL, he continued to adopt this practice as a part of habit.
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The first time Cleveland beat Minnesota! It didn't happen again until 1986
Wow! That's a long draught.
@@markgardner9460In all fairness they didn't play that often! The meeting in 1986 was only the ninth between the Browns and Vikings.
Mark have you ever been to a hockey game , they throw haymakers .and hockey sticks .lol
I've been to a few and seen a few.
You're obviously a Vikings fan, which ain't easy, and yet you showed Cleveland game last. That's the sort of objectivity most of the media could use!
Thanks - I appreciate that!
Typical Hamburger necktie!Renzel would have had a better game if he catches Dan Reeves option pass! They had better luck in the ice bowl!
Lance would have had close to 300 receiving yards if he caught Reeves' pass. Dan threw 3 passes on the day. That aint happenin' any time soon.
@@markgardner94603 option passes ! Unreal!
one of 'em was picked off, but I didn't have the footage for that.
@@markgardner9460 One bounced off Renzel's hands and got picked off
...and the Vikings #24 Brady Keyes had one bounce off his hands after it had bounced off Gary Collins hands..............and Collins ended up catching it in the end.