He really was. Beautiful runner with a nice blend of power and glide. Excellent pass receiver and a solid punter. Versatile. I still believe he's underrated.
Great video Mark, once again showing what a different game it was back then. I feel fortunate having witnessed a lot of it back when I was a kid. Today’s game is soulless, sterile. Your videos never get old!
One thing in common I picked up from the featured players regardless of their stats they all had heart and determination. They never quit. Hard to say if the FB position will ever return. I personally would like to see the tight end return. Great footage as always Mark!
Thank you, Classicrocker! I was impressed when researching Willard and Anderson at how durable they were. They never missed games! To play prominent roles in that era and to be utilized as extensively as they were, that is perhaps the best compliment that can be paid. As the old adage goes, "The best ability is durability".
I was blessed to see Jim play at Cleveland Municipal Stadium in 1964 at the age of 12. When you see a live game you'll see everything. Not like TV where they focus on parts. Jim Brown was the real deal. Drafted out of Syracuse where he excelled in LaCrosse(go figure?) Played 9 seasons, never missed a game, rushed for a minimum of 100 yards of every game. You could of swore he'd be taken out of the game after limping off the field after an excruciating hit. Nope, back in next play rushes for 19!
The AFL had a good set of fullbacks as well: Charley Tolar, "the Human Bowling Ball," Jim Nance, Cookie Gilchrist and Hoyle Granger. As a former Veer fullback, I would love to see the position make a comeback. If you watch Navy and Air Force football they use fullbacks in the Double Wing.
I should have noted how they did a lot of the dirty work, too, by blocking for their more high-profile, glamorous Halfbacks. The Fullback position is now a distant memorry, but I'd love to see a comeback, akthough I doubt there will be.
Great video as always! I'm 68 and grew up watching all those guys play. Matt Snell of the Jets and Jim Nance of the Patriots were also 2 underrated fullbacks
Those were the two guys that I originally had pegged as additional fullbacks for this video, but I decided to include them and others in a follow-up video. Thanks, Kent!
Winston's "Chiropractic " hit on Csonka anytime viewed brings an understanding of just how Competitive and Tough the men of these eras were.Love your Posts. Memory Lane accessible. Great job.
Now when a defender hits a QB, he has to make sure that they both land side by side, the defender must be heard saying "I'm sorry", and they shake hands after the play. Well, almost....(the first part is true though)
John David Crow was playing TE with SF his last season. He needed less than 40 yards to reach 5,000 and before his last game there was an article in the Atlanta Journal that he might move to the backfield if the situation allowed. I think SF was in contention because he wasn’t so used.
Thank you for noting that, as I was unaware that he was primary a Tight End in '68. He only had 4 rushing attempts for 4 yards that year. He finished in 15th place all-time in rushing yards at the time of his retirement.
Fullbacks and committee running was still a very valid thing into the 1980s! In the late 1970's and 1980's the switch to the big back or power back took over. Thinking Muncie, Campbell, Mike Pruitt, and William Andrews. Thanks for the videos, I dig your focus on football history.
You had to be tough to play in the (60s-70s) NFL...You had to be exceptionally tough to compete in the black & blue division! I, living in Des Moines as a kid got to watch the Bears, Vikes or Pack every week. I used to chart plays w/special attention to Brown, Anderson, Pitts, Sayers etc. I loved Willard too & his crew cut with fenders. Did you notice the Ref in red stripes and red socks? Anderson was an iron man going from frozen to concrete turf. The fullback in today's game is an H back, an F Receiver an added "blocker". The fullback is kind of invisible like middle linebacker...but I appreciate it when I see it today - call 'em what they will. Thanks brother, you're appreciated.
Despite being named to three Pro Bowls (one of which he dominated, although they gave the MVP to O.J.) Marv Hubbard was the most underrated fullback of all time.
@@markgardner9460 I love your videos, Mark! I saw all of these guys play many times. In Hubbard's case, all of the Raiders games were televised, in Southern California, so watched him play in at least 30, or so, games. He was a horse. The Pro Bowl I spoke of saw him and O.J. both gaining around 100 yards on the ground. The Juice picked up the bulk of his on a couple of long runs, and Hubbard got nearly all of his while carrying the best defenders that the NFC had to offer on his back.
Thank you, James. Your assertion is well founded because nobody thought that the old Wing T offense would come back, yet Marv Levy re-introduced it in the late '70's with the Chiefs. Tom Landry brought back the shotgun formation. In the early 2000's The Wildcat returned as well.
@@markgardner9460 Agreed! There were so many fullbacks who labored unrecognized for their efforts. I remember Steve Owens and Marv Hubbard being among them.
Couldn't agree more! Fullbacks ran, blocked and caught passes. In Anderson's case he added value by returning a few punts and kick-offs while also punting. Amazing. That's not happening in today's game of specialization.
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My pick: Tom Nowatzke; first round pick in 1965 by the Detroit Lions. Super Bowl Champ in 1971 (Super Bowl V), where his 4th Quarter Touchdown tied the game. His truck & trailer repair shop is just up the road from me in Whitmore Lake, MI.
At 6'3" 230 pounds, he was a BIG load to bring down. He was also selected by the Jets in the AFL's 1965 draft - also in the first round. You can bet that those teams upped the ante in attempting to secure his services.
Wonderful upload....my favorite show !! Incredible Bill Brown and what he sacrificed for the Vikings....the JIm Otto of the NFC. Couple of points for you: - Think Dale Hackbart was also a future draft pick. Selected # one by the would be Vikings ( no name at the time ) in 1960, he ended up signing with Green Bay since the Vikings jumped to the NFL and had to sit out 1960 - Anderson had a spectacular 50 yard + run while with St. Louis, could not believe his speed. He tried to latch on with the Dolphins , think in 1975, retiring while in training camp.
Hackbart played college ball in '59 and was drafted by MN in the '60 AFL draft as a "territorial selection", so I don't think that he was a future draft pick. GREAT comparison of Brown to Otto!!
"Analytics"being "what it is "today"used to"grade"and "vet" players"or "predict" certain"outcomes"...."was unheard of...it was just"X's and "O's"! "Thanks"Mark" point " proven"!!
Hi Mark - I’m wearing my number 46 Chuck Muncie chargers blue jersey for this video - nice to see you’re wearing another Chuck’s jersey. Oh, I remember Boom Boom Brown and the golden Palomino. Brown was on kick returns at end of career - amazing
Howdy! Muncie is in my top 4 favorite RB's of all-time. I have a few Chargers jerseys, so I'd like to get one of his with the Saints. What a superb athlete he was.
Larry Csonka was the best of his era and is in the Hall of Fame for good reason. He was incredibly difficult to tackle and no one on the field was tougher. He benefited from playing behind some Hall of Fame lineman, but honestly, he could also run block as well as they could, even the great Larry Little. At 6'3" and 250 lbs on game day (not on the football card) he was also comparable in size to the offensive linemen in front of him and throughout the league at that time. The Dolphins had the best wide receiver in the league at that time, Paul Warfield, but threw to him sparingly because Csonka was so dependable. The great Warfield, often the skinniest guy on the field, became a huge threat as a blocker, perfecting the vicious crack back block that was outlawed partially due to his proficiency with it. It sprung Csonka on sweeps where hapless DBs had to find a way to slow down Csonka enough to get gang tackled.
@@DemonKingBadger Warfield averaged 20.9 yards per reception in 1972. He only needed to touch the ball a few times a game to make an enormous difference. The defense had to take him as a serious downfield threat on every play even though almost all of the time he was actually more impactful as the best blocking wide receiver the game has ever had even though he was usually the smallest player on the field. He was such an effective blocker they outlawed his best technique, the crack back block. Back in the old days before protecting players health was much of an issue, safeties and Linebackers feared him coming at their knees for good reason.
One notable name I mention is Don Perkins. Perkins(along with QB Don Meredith) signed a services contract with Dallas in 1959. Meaning before the Cowboys were even a team. Perkins broke his foot in 1960, so 1961 was his official rookie season. He gained over 1100 scrimmage yards and was named Rookie of the year, and made the Pro Bowl. Perkins was the first Cowboys to be named All-Pro in 1962. He retired after the 1968 season. He finished his career with 6,217 yards. Placing Don Perkins as 5th on the all-time rushing list at the time. His replacement, Walt "Pinch between the teeth and gum" Garrison would call Perkins "The best FB The Dallas Cowboys ever had". Perkins did all this while playing FB at less than 210 Lbs. Don Perkins was placed in the Texas Sports Hall Of Fame in 2006. Perkins was also inducted into the Cowboys Ring Of Honor in 1976. RIP #43
@@Boomhower89 Coach Landry started his first Training Camp with his famed "Landry Mile". Dandy finished late and of course joked about it. While Perkins didn't even finish. Perk led the team in rushing in 6 of his 8 years. Landry liked to split carries among his RB's. They were split even more when the likes of Dan Reaves, Craig Baynum, and Walt Garrison came to the team. Which makes Perkins totals even more impressive.
@@markgardner9460 Interesting Garrison and his own successor, Robert Newhouse, also played FB relatively light compared to their contemporaries. The Landry Mile was a roughly a mile and a half. Tom started all his camps with the run to test how ready his players were for the grind of the season. Camp Landry was one of the hardest hitting in the league also. It was necessary for him. Because he knew Lombardi was doing the same in Green Bay. When both were assistants in NY, the Giants practices were more brutal than some real games. Both Tom and Vince took that method to their respective teams. Players around the league began to understand how important preparation even before Camp was.
Great subject great video. I love Bill Brown getting his due..........here is an unsolicited suggestion: Top 5 Punters and Punt Returners of the 70's and/or Top 5 Kickers and Kick Returners of the 70's.
@@markgardner9460Anderson had a fine if unspectacular career fine receiver 209 receptions 2548 yards 4696 yards rushing almost 1000 yards kick and punt returns and 56 TDs but the most amazing thing he did ( in my opinion other than signing that massive contract!) in 1967 Vince Lombardi decided to sacrifice long punts for shorter higher ones and Anderson only averaged about 38 yards per punt,but incredibly he punted 63 times and Green Bay allowed 22 yards of return! Absolutely staggering!
Jim Grabowski was injury prone and never lived up to expectations 1731 yards rushing and 11 total TDs Green Bay waived him in 71 he went to Chicago in 72 but that was it...
Another epic episode. Donny Anderson was a bull. Lucky for the Cards they picked up another bull named Otis in 1973. Lots of sexy blondes in attendance along with the always stunning Big Red Line
What bothers me about these rankings of Fullbacks is that they almost never include the best, scariest and toughest fullback I’ve ever seen. That being Pete Johnson of the Bengals who played most of his career in the last half of the 70’s. Pete at 270 lbs was a one man wrecking crew and an extremely versatile FB. He was a devastating blocker, a bone crunching runner who would consistently leave defensive players laying all over the field and a talented receiver. His average per reception was 12 yards which is impressive because he mostly caught the ball behind the line of scrimmage and was a mismatch for linebackers and no match for a DB. It’s time Pete should get his due as one of the NFL’s all time great FB’s
Thanks for your comments. I didn't intend this video to be a "ranking" video - just mention a few of the underrated Fullbacks. My intent is to create one or more follow-up videos to this one. It takes a lot of time and effort to create these videos and if I included all of the underrated Fullbacks from the '60's and '70's, the video would be at least one hour long. I'm a Pete fan, so hopefully I'll be able to include him in a future video. Thanks again!
The fullback is part and of the special O packages using the 3 TE set where it’s usually lineman eligible or an actual TE that can take a pitch block or short catch. Alas the day the FB barreling into the hole and decleating LBs or Safeties are gone Mike Alstot comes to mind
I started watching. Football as a kid when Donnie Anderson came to the ST. Louis Cardinals . I remember him . I was a Cardinals fan growing up . I also liked the KC. Chiefs. Ed podalack . Misspelled ! No “14
@@markgardner9460 I thought I was the only one who paid attention to stuff like that. Podalak was a very good player and I will always remember the OT game on Christmas Day versus the Dolphins.
If you wanted to get those 6-digit salaries coming out of the draft, 1965 and 1966 were the years to get them. In '65 the AFL got a much better TV deal with NBC and they now had more money to lay out. Most players were drafted by both AFL and NFL in their own separate drafts, and it now was going to be the highest bidder as to where they went, Namath being a prime example. But as part of the merger deal they made in June '66 both leagues agreed to a single common draft starting in '67. Salaries on rookie contracts went back down quite a bit after that. The only other option a player had after the merger was to go to the CFL if they were willing to offer more money, which was kind of rare.
Thank you for your comments! I am working on a special draft video that I hope to publish soon. I hope that you'll check it out because it's very interesting.
Good one. Donny Anderson was a remarkable athelete. Kinda got a raw deal a bit with GB. And nice to see B Brown and K Willard get some kudos. Many more great FB's such as Walt Garrison.
Tom Woodeshick of the Eagles was another underrated FB in the same mold as Bill Brown and Ken Willard. He could catch the ball, too. All these guys played hurt. They were usually just taped up and sent back out there.
You're right on all statements, Denis. Usually, only one year contracts were issued and the team roster size was quite small, so the players not only played hurt, but often injured. I'd like to include "Woody" in a follow-up video to this one.
@@markgardner9460 There’s an old video out there of Woodeshick (37) getting his ribs and shoulder taped up on the trainer’s table. He’s joking with the trainer, but also wincing every time that tape was wrapped tight. Might’ve been on one of those Eagle’s season recaps.
NFL Films did a short feature on him, so I wonder if that's where it's from. It was pretty good - should super close game action from field level. The hitting was ferocious.
I remember big Jim Jensen with the Iowa Hawkeyes. 6-3 235 pounds and played on some horrid Iowa teams in the mid 70's but was a bright spot and a 2nd round pick and played a couple years for the Bronco's.
I have 37 and I have a few more that I'd like to obtain, but so far I have either not located the desired player jersey or it has not been available in my size. Thanks for the kind words.
I remember Donny Anderson punting, as well as returning punts. The guy was so big, and so athletic, you'd think the Packers would have won more Super Bowls.
@@markgardner9460 Yeah, I know. But geez, they had some guys like Donnie, and Bart Starr was still playing, as well as Nitschke, and Dave Robinson was in his prime. However, the Colts and Vikings were really strong, and there were no wild card teams back then. Much less playoff participation. Alas, the coastal division.
I've had a theory that offesne is actually devolving to some degree due to the running QBs of the present. To protect those guys it's sometimes necessary to have that extra back and more routes than ever run through the flats now. The FB could definitely make a comeback but probably not out of the I-formation, something more like a T or a box.
I agree with you that there are more routes than ever. With defenses keying on the top running QB's of today, along with conservative offensive philosophies designed to prop passing completion percentages, the QB's simply throw the "safety valve" pass to a back in the flat.
As someone who was born in 1966 I feel so fortunate & blessed to have watched football when it was truly a man's sport. The players from football's early days through the 1970s & early eighties were tough as nails. I know he's fairly popular but I've always admired Rocky Blier physical toughness. I hear all the time that today's player's are bigger, faster, stronger, etc. None of those attributes equates to physical & mental toughness, which these men had in spades. I always thought Jerome Bettis had the physical toughness of these older backs. John Riggins did as well in his day. Thanks for a wonderful video and football time capsule. It's sad that the current NFL is both weak & woke in my opinion.
Thank you for your comments, Pastor Jim. In the early days, players rarely received multi-year contracts and their signing bonuses, if a play was fortunate to receive one, certainly wasn't enough to retire on. Therefore, the incentive to play hurt in order to minimize the risk of being replaced on a sizably smaller roster than today's was quite high.
Thanks for the kind response. Well, I think it goes beyond a player being willing to play hurt. My point is that the sheer toughness element is just not there. I've even heard a commentator jokingly remark that today's game is more like rough two hand touch football. Near the end of his career, Jack Lambert commented that the rules protecting the quarterback had gotten so ridiculous that the league should issue them skirts. @@markgardner9460
@@markgardner9460Hello there and thanks for your kind remarks. I commented earlier but my response was deleted. My only point is that the physical & mental toughness is definitely lacking in today's game. The fact that some players would play with injuries really bolsters my point, regardless of their reasons for playing hurt. Near the end of his career Jack Lambert commented that the League should issue skirts to quarterbacks. In the effort to protect players the NFL has gone too far in the opposite direction.
They've gone too far in player protection because the player salaries are huge and mostly guaranteed. Last year WR Justin Jefferson sat out 7 games due to a bad hammy. He wouldn't play until 100% because he was protecting himself for his next big contract. It worked - the Vikings fell for it.
Bronko Nagurski has the best football name _ever._ One of these days I'm gonna make a list of all the best ones. Night Train Lane, Dick Butkus, Crazy Legs Hirsch - all those kind of guys. I first became aware of football in 1966 at age 5. I've been a Packers fan ever since, save for a brief affair with the '71 - '73 Dolphins. The late 60s through the 70s are my golden era of football. (To this day I keep waiting for the Rams to go back to their only acceptable uniforms, the blue & white of that time.) I'm too young to remember any football before '66 and some older guys might argue for the 40s & 50s. I can understand that perspective even though I disagree - so many great players & teams in that era. I love the whole history of the NFL. That includes the AAFC & the 60s' AFL, too. (There was another AFL a number of years before the 60s.) Nagurski anecdote: A reporter asked an opposing team's coach (don't remember who, though the original that I read had the name) before a game against the Bears, "Coach, how are you gonna stop Nagurski today?" The coach replied, "With a shotgun as he exits the locker room." Those were the days…
The Bronk died in January 1990, so whether or not he would have had the requisite skills to compete for a roster spot at Linebacker in the 1980's is unknown. I think, perhaps, that Middle Linebacker would have suited him best.
The Niners of the early 70's are kind of a forgotten team. Since I was a Rams fan as a kid I didn't cheer for them, but the team of Brodie and Willard were really good. They are forgotten largely because they were overshadowed by the 80's dynasty of Walsh, Montana and Lott. But the Niners of the early 70's were legit.
WR Gene Washington was terrific. He made All-Pro each of his first three years in the NFL and was superior to Dwight Clark, in my opinion. Center Forrest Blue was very good, too, and the 49ers defense was solid.
San Francisco makes good use of a fullback, and there's a possibility that Pittsburgh, under new OC Arthur Smith, will be using tight end Connor Heyward in a fullback role. I'd like to see the fullback position revived not for the blocking so much as pass catcher. That's exactly what Heyward does best. Here's hoping!
Always thought Anderson was underappreciated. He was a good player. I was surprised he only played nine seasons. Playing with that type of offense with the Cardinals I'm surprised he didn't stick around longer
Rookie sensation Terry Metcalf and big Jim Otis were the main RB's for the Cards and I think that Anderson knew that the writing was on the wall - he was at the end of the line.
I showed Nagurski and Taylor in order to build up the Fullback position as being one to be played by only the toughest football players. The players featured thereafter were the ones who took the torch, so to speak, from Taylor, who in turn helped to carry on the legacy of the position that Nagurski created.
When a running game & a stout defense was the key to winning football! Unlike this wide open passing game that's now played! Back then it was football now it's entertainment! The only thing missing is to have Ed Sullivan announce the results of every play at midfield! Watched all those Running backs play! The 50's made the NFL Football a must watch! But the 60's & 70's made NFL Football America's Sport replacing MLB! Those players are the reason current NFL Players are making all the $$$$$$...!
I wasn't able to determine what number draft choice Halas received in return, but it had to have been very low because he was going to waive Brown until the Vikes swooped in at the last second.
@@markgardner9460 From what I read the Vikings gave a 4th-round pick for him. I can look around and see exactly what publication I got that statement from.
Good players. The whole concept of running back has changed. Now the fullback is an extra tight end or a slot. College teams make a mistake of not having a FB for goal line or short yardage.
Fullbacks nowadays are only used for goal line and certain special plays I wish nfl teams would throw some t formations or an A Formation. The last teams used Mack strong Larry centers Mike Alstot the last known true
@@markgardner9460 Czonka and Morris both ran for a thousand yards one year. The only other tandem to run for a thousand the same year was Harris and Bleier. Both pairs had one power fullback.
Donny Anderson was worth every penny. I remember when he came to St. Louis in '73. People were excited.
"The Golden Palomino". Nobody has a nickname today - not a real one anyway.
@@markgardner9460 So true.
He really was. Beautiful runner with a nice blend of power and glide. Excellent pass receiver and a solid punter. Versatile. I still believe he's underrated.
@@JamesThornhurn Well, at least Mark highlighted him, and we are talking about him. How much $$$ would he get in today's game?
Great video Mark, once again showing what a different game it was back then. I feel fortunate having witnessed a lot of it back when I was a kid. Today’s game is soulless, sterile. Your videos never get old!
Couldn't agree more. Thanks for your kind words.
One thing in common I picked up from the featured players regardless of their stats they all had heart and determination. They never quit. Hard to say if the FB position will ever return. I personally would like to see the tight end return. Great footage as always Mark!
Thank you, Classicrocker! I was impressed when researching Willard and Anderson at how durable they were. They never missed games! To play prominent roles in that era and to be utilized as extensively as they were, that is perhaps the best compliment that can be paid. As the old adage goes, "The best ability is durability".
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“Make sure when anyone tackles you, he remembers how much it hurts.” - Jim Brown
Put some cleat marks on his chest, preferably
@@markgardner9460 Wasn't Jim Brown a fullback? And Franco Harris?
@@christophertracy2807 Hard to call either of them under-rated...
I was blessed to see Jim play at Cleveland Municipal Stadium in 1964 at the age of 12. When you see a live game you'll see everything. Not like TV where they focus on parts.
Jim Brown was the real deal. Drafted out of Syracuse where he excelled in LaCrosse(go figure?)
Played 9 seasons, never missed a game, rushed for a minimum of 100 yards of every game. You could of swore he'd be taken out of the game after limping off the field after an excruciating hit. Nope, back in next play rushes for 19!
That was a great year, obviously, to be a Browns fan and watch their games at the stadium! Thanks for commenting.
The AFL had a good set of fullbacks as well: Charley Tolar, "the Human Bowling Ball," Jim Nance, Cookie Gilchrist and Hoyle Granger. As a former Veer fullback, I would love to see the position make a comeback. If you watch Navy and Air Force football they use fullbacks in the Double Wing.
Some of those Fullbacks are featured in my video "Who Are The Top 5 AFL Running Backs In History?". I agree - bring back the position into prominance!
You are so right on this one! Time to shine more light on these unsung heroes of the game.
I should have noted how they did a lot of the dirty work, too, by blocking for their more high-profile, glamorous Halfbacks. The Fullback position is now a distant memorry, but I'd love to see a comeback, akthough I doubt there will be.
Great video as always! I'm 68 and grew up watching all those guys play. Matt Snell of the Jets and Jim Nance of the Patriots were also 2 underrated fullbacks
Those were the two guys that I originally had pegged as additional fullbacks for this video, but I decided to include them and others in a follow-up video. Thanks, Kent!
Snell should have been the MVP of Super Bowl 3!
I second that!!!
Winston's "Chiropractic " hit on Csonka anytime viewed brings an understanding of just how Competitive and Tough the men of these eras were.Love your Posts. Memory Lane accessible. Great job.
Thank you - I appreciate it!
Some of hits these guys took, it is amazing how anybody lasted in the NFL.
Now when a defender hits a QB, he has to make sure that they both land side by side, the defender must be heard saying "I'm sorry", and they shake hands after the play. Well, almost....(the first part is true though)
They may have lasted in the NFL, but their bodies paid a horrible price.
John David Crow was playing TE with SF his last season. He needed less than 40 yards to reach 5,000 and before his last game there was an article in the Atlanta Journal that he might move to the backfield if the situation allowed. I think SF was in contention because he wasn’t so used.
Thank you for noting that, as I was unaware that he was primary a Tight End in '68. He only had 4 rushing attempts for 4 yards that year. He finished in 15th place all-time in rushing yards at the time of his retirement.
Fullbacks and committee running was still a very valid thing into the 1980s! In the late 1970's and 1980's the switch to the big back or power back took over. Thinking Muncie, Campbell, Mike Pruitt, and William Andrews.
Thanks for the videos, I dig your focus on football history.
Thank you - I appreciate your comments!
Everyone knew how great Csonka was and he was still underrated. His yards per carry as a fullback were amazing from 1970-1973
My favorite player of all time. His jersey is the only one I own or care to.
@@ronsmac csonka was the reason I became a Dolphins fan!
You had to be tough to play in the (60s-70s) NFL...You had to be exceptionally tough to compete in the black & blue division! I, living in Des Moines as a kid got to watch the Bears, Vikes or Pack every week. I used to chart plays w/special attention to Brown, Anderson, Pitts, Sayers etc. I loved Willard too & his crew cut with fenders. Did you notice the Ref in red stripes and red socks? Anderson was an iron man going from frozen to concrete turf. The fullback in today's game is an H back, an F Receiver an added "blocker". The fullback is kind of invisible like middle linebacker...but I appreciate it when I see it today - call 'em what they will. Thanks brother, you're appreciated.
Chart plays - amazing. Now that's being enamored with your sport. I love it!
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Glad you enjoyed it!
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Everything I've heard about Bill Brown has been positive - he was a great guy.
Despite being named to three Pro Bowls (one of which he dominated, although they gave the MVP to O.J.) Marv Hubbard was the most underrated fullback of all time.
He was excellent. I may include him in a follow-up video. Thanks for bringing him up!
@@markgardner9460 I love your videos, Mark! I saw all of these guys play many times. In Hubbard's case, all of the Raiders games were televised, in Southern California, so watched him play in at least 30, or so, games. He was a horse. The Pro Bowl I spoke of saw him and O.J. both gaining around 100 yards on the ground. The Juice picked up the bulk of his on a couple of long runs, and Hubbard got nearly all of his while carrying the best defenders that the NFC had to offer on his back.
Old ", Mother Hubbard" was a load!
@obbor4 I remember watching that Pro Bowl. You are exactly right!
@@markgardner9460 Or how about the guy before him, Hewritt Dixon.
Fullbacks, I love tough runners who never fumble and are hard to tackle
Absolutely a great video! As for the future of fullbacks. Football is a cyclical game, and one day they will return.
Thank you, James. Your assertion is well founded because nobody thought that the old Wing T offense would come back, yet Marv Levy re-introduced it in the late '70's with the Chiefs. Tom Landry brought back the shotgun formation. In the early 2000's The Wildcat returned as well.
I think that the NFL is shying away from some of the physical play,so I don't know if the fullbacks will ever be featured as much again.
@@markgardner9460 Agreed! There were so many fullbacks who labored unrecognized for their efforts. I remember Steve Owens and Marv Hubbard being among them.
@@jamesrosella529 Jim Braxton the FB for the OJ Bills
Thank you, it was a special time in The NFL ! Every Sunday… me and my dad, watching games !
Great video. Enjoyed seeing these tremendous players. Great names from the past. FBs were not one-dimensional players then.
Couldn't agree more! Fullbacks ran, blocked and caught passes. In Anderson's case he added value by returning a few punts and kick-offs while also punting. Amazing. That's not happening in today's game of specialization.
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Thank you! I hope to produce a follow-up video to include more underrated Fullbacks.
My pick: Tom Nowatzke; first round pick in 1965 by the Detroit Lions. Super Bowl Champ in 1971 (Super Bowl V), where his 4th Quarter Touchdown tied the game.
His truck & trailer repair shop is just up the road from me in Whitmore Lake, MI.
At 6'3" 230 pounds, he was a BIG load to bring down. He was also selected by the Jets in the AFL's 1965 draft - also in the first round. You can bet that those teams upped the ante in attempting to secure his services.
Love old school videos...especially the uniforms...collect NFL autographs and have just about everyone shown.
Nice thumbnail of Gabe! Thank you for your comments.
Wonderful upload....my favorite show !!
Incredible Bill Brown and what he sacrificed for the Vikings....the JIm Otto of the NFC.
Couple of points for you:
- Think Dale Hackbart was also a future draft pick. Selected # one by the would be Vikings ( no name at the time ) in 1960, he ended up signing with Green Bay since the Vikings jumped to the NFL and had to sit out 1960
- Anderson had a spectacular 50 yard + run while with St. Louis, could not believe his speed. He tried to latch on with the Dolphins , think in 1975, retiring while in training camp.
Hackbart played college ball in '59 and was drafted by MN in the '60 AFL draft as a "territorial selection", so I don't think that he was a future draft pick.
GREAT comparison of Brown to Otto!!
Great job! Wonderful collection of highlights (from an old Packer fan).
Glad you enjoyed it! Thank you!
I remember all those guys. That was the best era for football in my lifetime.
Likewise for me!
This video and it's subject on Fullbacks of the 60s & 70s is 👍
yet I can't help but feel there's more FBs that can be featured in future videos !
I think that you're right! An additional video is warranted.
I absolutely love your videos. Your narrative is awesome
Thank you very much - I really appreciate that!
"Analytics"being "what it is "today"used to"grade"and "vet" players"or "predict" certain"outcomes"...."was unheard of...it was just"X's and "O's"!
"Thanks"Mark" point " proven"!!
Basically a game of hard blocking and crisp tackling....unlike today
Great fullbacks and film, again. Gracias,
Another Great Video, Thanks!
Glad you enjoyed it!
I really enjoyed it. Thanks man.
Glad you liked it - appreciate it.
Back when players were so much tougher
Bill Brown never gave up the high and tight. He went on to do commercials for a Minneapolis tire store.
He seemed to be a good-natured, down-to-Earth type of guy to me. He was definitely a role model for anyone looking for a hard worker.
Hi Mark - I’m wearing my number 46 Chuck Muncie chargers blue jersey for this video - nice to see you’re wearing another Chuck’s jersey. Oh, I remember Boom Boom Brown and the golden Palomino. Brown was on kick returns at end of career - amazing
Howdy! Muncie is in my top 4 favorite RB's of all-time. I have a few Chargers jerseys, so I'd like to get one of his with the Saints. What a superb athlete he was.
That Detroit player pushing the ref like "GTFO" LOL. No penalty. Love it.
Larry Csonka was the best of his era and is in the Hall of Fame for good reason. He was incredibly difficult to tackle and no one on the field was tougher. He benefited from playing behind some Hall of Fame lineman, but honestly, he could also run block as well as they could, even the great Larry Little. At 6'3" and 250 lbs on game day (not on the football card) he was also comparable in size to the offensive linemen in front of him and throughout the league at that time. The Dolphins had the best wide receiver in the league at that time, Paul Warfield, but threw to him sparingly because Csonka was so dependable. The great Warfield, often the skinniest guy on the field, became a huge threat as a blocker, perfecting the vicious crack back block that was outlawed partially due to his proficiency with it. It sprung Csonka on sweeps where hapless DBs had to find a way to slow down Csonka enough to get gang tackled.
Yeah, with him Kick and Morris you only had to pass 7-8 times a game
@@DemonKingBadger Warfield averaged 20.9 yards per reception in 1972. He only needed to touch the ball a few times a game to make an enormous difference. The defense had to take him as a serious downfield threat on every play even though almost all of the time he was actually more impactful as the best blocking wide receiver the game has ever had even though he was usually the smallest player on the field. He was such an effective blocker they outlawed his best technique, the crack back block. Back in the old days before protecting players health was much of an issue, safeties and Linebackers feared him coming at their knees for good reason.
One notable name I mention is Don Perkins. Perkins(along with QB Don Meredith) signed a services contract with Dallas in 1959. Meaning before the Cowboys were even a team. Perkins broke his foot in 1960, so 1961 was his official rookie season. He gained over 1100 scrimmage yards and was named Rookie of the year, and made the Pro Bowl. Perkins was the first Cowboys to be named All-Pro in 1962. He retired after the 1968 season. He finished his career with 6,217 yards. Placing Don Perkins as 5th on the all-time rushing list at the time. His replacement, Walt "Pinch between the teeth and gum" Garrison would call Perkins "The best FB The Dallas Cowboys ever had". Perkins did all this while playing FB at less than 210 Lbs. Don Perkins was placed in the Texas Sports Hall Of Fame in 2006. Perkins was also inducted into the Cowboys Ring Of Honor in 1976. RIP #43
One of the greats. Plus he did the majority of his runs up the middle
@jstube36 Great info. Only Walt said "a pinch between my cheek and gum gives me full tobacco flavor". (Small difference, but one nevertheless)
@@Boomhower89 Coach Landry started his first Training Camp with his famed "Landry Mile". Dandy finished late and of course joked about it. While Perkins didn't even finish. Perk led the team in rushing in 6 of his 8 years. Landry liked to split carries among his RB's. They were split even more when the likes of Dan Reaves, Craig Baynum, and Walt Garrison came to the team. Which makes Perkins totals even more impressive.
He didn't even finish - wow. Well, it seems that Landry's Mile wasn't perhaps a training camp necessity. It's amazing to me that he didn't finish it.
@@markgardner9460 Interesting Garrison and his own successor, Robert Newhouse, also played FB relatively light compared to their contemporaries. The Landry Mile was a roughly a mile and a half. Tom started all his camps with the run to test how ready his players were for the grind of the season. Camp Landry was one of the hardest hitting in the league also. It was necessary for him. Because he knew Lombardi was doing the same in Green Bay. When both were assistants in NY, the Giants practices were more brutal than some real games. Both Tom and Vince took that method to their respective teams. Players around the league began to understand how important preparation even before Camp was.
Great list. I’ve forgot about some of these guys
Thanks, Richard!
Good footage as always Mark.
Glad you enjoyed it, Mr. Hanson!
Great subject great video. I love Bill Brown getting his due..........here is an unsolicited suggestion: Top 5 Punters and Punt Returners of the 70's and/or Top 5 Kickers and Kick Returners of the 70's.
Great suggestion! I will add this to my list. Research will be challenging, but that's OK.
@@markgardner9460 Thank you for all you do I love watching your work. Ray Guy and Billy Whiteshoes Johnson could have their own segment.
Donny Anderson looked like a natural catching the ball. Had he been a bit bigger he might have made a pretty decent TE.
He was an all-around great athlete...and incredibly durable.
@@markgardner9460Anderson had a fine if unspectacular career fine receiver 209 receptions 2548 yards 4696 yards rushing almost 1000 yards kick and punt returns and 56 TDs but the most amazing thing he did ( in my opinion other than signing that massive contract!) in 1967 Vince Lombardi decided to sacrifice long punts for shorter higher ones and Anderson only averaged about 38 yards per punt,but incredibly he punted 63 times and Green Bay allowed 22 yards of return! Absolutely staggering!
Jim Grabowski was injury prone and never lived up to expectations 1731 yards rushing and 11 total TDs Green Bay waived him in 71 he went to Chicago in 72 but that was it...
I agree he actually might have been a better TE than RB if he played that position
Is it possible Anderson was better on Astro Turf than grass given what he did for St Louis in 1973?
Awesome video.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Another epic episode. Donny Anderson was a bull. Lucky for the Cards they picked up another bull named Otis in 1973. Lots of sexy blondes in attendance along with the always stunning Big Red Line
Jim Otis just got bigger and bigger as his career unfolded. It's was like trying to tackle a runaway keg of beer rolled down a high hill.
Jim Otis, one of my favs.
What bothers me about these rankings of Fullbacks is that they almost never include the best, scariest and toughest fullback I’ve ever seen. That being Pete Johnson of the Bengals who played most of his career in the last half of the 70’s. Pete at 270 lbs was a one man wrecking crew and an extremely versatile FB. He was a devastating blocker, a bone crunching runner who would consistently leave defensive players laying all over the field and a talented receiver. His average per reception was 12 yards which is impressive because he mostly caught the ball behind the line of scrimmage and was a mismatch for linebackers and no match for a DB. It’s time Pete should get his due as one of the NFL’s all time great FB’s
Thanks for your comments. I didn't intend this video to be a "ranking" video - just mention a few of the underrated Fullbacks. My intent is to create one or more follow-up videos to this one. It takes a lot of time and effort to create these videos and if I included all of the underrated Fullbacks from the '60's and '70's, the video would be at least one hour long. I'm a Pete fan, so hopefully I'll be able to include him in a future video. Thanks again!
The fullback is part and of the special O packages using the 3 TE set where it’s usually lineman eligible or an actual TE that can take a pitch block or short catch. Alas the day the FB barreling into the hole and decleating LBs or Safeties are gone Mike Alstot comes to mind
Thanks for your comments and take on the position.
I started watching. Football as a kid when Donnie Anderson came to the ST. Louis Cardinals . I remember him . I was a Cardinals fan growing up . I also liked the KC. Chiefs. Ed podalack . Misspelled ! No “14
Both players wore the same facemask. Used to be cool back then. I wonder who the last player was to wear it.
@@markgardner9460 I thought I was the only one who paid attention to stuff like that. Podalak was a very good player and I will always remember the OT game on Christmas Day versus the Dolphins.
That was one special day! Can't remember one present that I received, but I recall most of that thrilling game.
@@markgardner9460 Our mom made us go to a party and we missed the end. Still in therapy over that one....
Bill Brown was a legend.
5 foot 11 230 is a TANK..
Especially when Bill Brown straps on big boy shoulder pads, knee pads, thigh pads, and hip pads. Now that's a 240-245 pound tank to tackle.
@@markgardner9460 I wouldn't have waited to get in his way!!
Great video!
Glad you enjoyed it!
If you wanted to get those 6-digit salaries coming out of the draft, 1965 and 1966 were the years to get them. In '65 the AFL got a much better TV deal with NBC and they now had more money to lay out. Most players were drafted by both AFL and NFL in their own separate drafts, and it now was going to be the highest bidder as to where they went, Namath being a prime example. But as part of the merger deal they made in June '66 both leagues agreed to a single common draft starting in '67. Salaries on rookie contracts went back down quite a bit after that. The only other option a player had after the merger was to go to the CFL if they were willing to offer more money, which was kind of rare.
Thank you for your comments! I am working on a special draft video that I hope to publish soon. I hope that you'll check it out because it's very interesting.
Good one. Donny Anderson was a remarkable athelete. Kinda got a raw deal a bit with GB. And nice to see B Brown and K Willard get some kudos. Many more great FB's such as Walt Garrison.
Garrison was one tough dude. He'd play with just about any injury.
@@markgardner9460 Tough as nails.
Excellent
Tom Woodeshick of the Eagles was another underrated FB in the same mold as Bill Brown and Ken Willard. He could catch the ball, too. All these guys played hurt. They were usually just taped up and sent back out there.
You're right on all statements, Denis. Usually, only one year contracts were issued and the team roster size was quite small, so the players not only played hurt, but often injured. I'd like to include "Woody" in a follow-up video to this one.
@@markgardner9460 There’s an old video out there of Woodeshick (37) getting his ribs and shoulder taped up on the trainer’s table. He’s joking with the trainer, but also wincing every time that tape was wrapped tight. Might’ve been on one of those Eagle’s season recaps.
NFL Films did a short feature on him, so I wonder if that's where it's from. It was pretty good - should super close game action from field level. The hitting was ferocious.
This is real football not the touch football we play today
Absolutely fantastic video, again! You have every team jersey?😂 Joey in Cleveland
Not yet! I'm missing the Cardinals, 49ers, and Packers. I'm having problems getting the player jerseys in my size. #!%@
When the NFL was still great.
Indeed. It started losing it in '78 with all of the rule changes to aid offenses, in my opinion.
I remember big Jim Jensen with the Iowa Hawkeyes. 6-3 235 pounds and played on some horrid Iowa teams in the mid 70's but was a bright spot and a 2nd round pick and played a couple years for the Bronco's.
Yeah, he was drafted by the Cowboys, but never played for them.
Great vid , Great Chuck Foreman Jersey ! How many in total do you have ? Thanks f9r the great vid
I have 37 and I have a few more that I'd like to obtain, but so far I have either not located the desired player jersey or it has not been available in my size.
Thanks for the kind words.
This is Dean: 0:30 , Good grief absolutely amazing.
There were a couple of years when Boom Boom was the entire Vikings offense.
Yeah, after Fran left the Vikes, he was most of the show.
Mark, see if you cant find a video of the HIT that Donny Anderson put in Fred "The Hammer" Williamson of Kansas City in the first Super Bowl. Thanks
That's a tough assignment. I have some holes to fill in my video collection. Perhaps someday I will be able to adequately fill 'em up. Thanks!
Willie Wood (I think) on the Packer sideline, laughing about how the "the Hammer" got knocked out by Anderson.
I've seen it on YT, so it's out there.
@@argelbargel7680 I've seen it too but could not find it. Now, I did not search for a long time.
One thing that's clear from this video is that technique for accepting the handoff was horrible back then. Great stuff as always!
Great point! Thank you!!
I remember Donny Anderson punting, as well as returning punts. The guy was so big, and so athletic, you'd think the Packers would have won more Super Bowls.
Almost all of the Packers future HOF'ers were getting old and not nearly as effective or retired by 1970.
@@markgardner9460 Yeah, I know. But geez, they had some guys like Donnie, and Bart Starr was still playing, as well as Nitschke, and Dave Robinson was in his prime. However, the Colts and Vikings were really strong, and there were no wild card teams back then. Much less playoff participation. Alas, the coastal division.
I've had a theory that offesne is actually devolving to some degree due to the running QBs of the present. To protect those guys it's sometimes necessary to have that extra back and more routes than ever run through the flats now. The FB could definitely make a comeback but probably not out of the I-formation, something more like a T or a box.
I agree with you that there are more routes than ever. With defenses keying on the top running QB's of today, along with conservative offensive philosophies designed to prop passing completion percentages, the QB's simply throw the "safety valve" pass to a back in the flat.
Bill Brown was more than a fullback. He was a fine receiving back.
Indeed he was. Primarily utilized on screen and flare passing routes, he could also effectively run longer ones, as shown in the footage.
Enjoy the back round music as well!
Thank you - I'm glad that you liked it!
Marv Hubbard, Hewitt Dixon, and Van Eagan … You should just do a video on those 3 great players to make up for this one!
As someone who was born in 1966 I feel so fortunate & blessed to have watched football when it was truly a man's sport. The players from football's early days through the 1970s & early eighties were tough as nails. I know he's fairly popular but I've always admired Rocky Blier physical toughness. I hear all the time that today's player's are bigger, faster, stronger, etc. None of those attributes equates to physical & mental toughness, which these men had in spades. I always thought Jerome Bettis had the physical toughness of these older backs. John Riggins did as well in his day. Thanks for a wonderful video and football time capsule. It's sad that the current NFL is both weak & woke in my opinion.
Thank you for your comments, Pastor Jim. In the early days, players rarely received multi-year contracts and their signing bonuses, if a play was fortunate to receive one, certainly wasn't enough to retire on. Therefore, the incentive to play hurt in order to minimize the risk of being replaced on a sizably smaller roster than today's was quite high.
Thanks for the kind response. Well, I think it goes beyond a player being willing to play hurt. My point is that the sheer toughness element is just not there. I've even heard a commentator jokingly remark that today's game is more like rough two hand touch football. Near the end of his career, Jack Lambert commented that the rules protecting the quarterback had gotten so ridiculous that the league should issue them skirts. @@markgardner9460
@@markgardner9460Hello there and thanks for your kind remarks. I commented earlier but my response was deleted. My only point is that the physical & mental toughness is definitely lacking in today's game. The fact that some players would play with injuries really bolsters my point, regardless of their reasons for playing hurt. Near the end of his career Jack Lambert commented that the League should issue skirts to quarterbacks. In the effort to protect players the NFL has gone too far in the opposite direction.
They've gone too far in player protection because the player salaries are huge and mostly guaranteed. Last year WR Justin Jefferson sat out 7 games due to a bad hammy. He wouldn't play until 100% because he was protecting himself for his next big contract. It worked - the Vikings fell for it.
Bronko Nagurski has the best football name _ever._ One of these days I'm gonna make a list of all the best ones. Night Train Lane, Dick Butkus, Crazy Legs Hirsch - all those kind of guys.
I first became aware of football in 1966 at age 5. I've been a Packers fan ever since, save for a brief affair with the '71 - '73 Dolphins. The late 60s through the 70s are my golden era of football. (To this day I keep waiting for the Rams to go back to their only acceptable uniforms, the blue & white of that time.)
I'm too young to remember any football before '66 and some older guys might argue for the 40s & 50s. I can understand that perspective even though I disagree - so many great players & teams in that era. I love the whole history of the NFL. That includes the AAFC & the 60s' AFL, too. (There was another AFL a number of years before the 60s.)
Nagurski anecdote: A reporter asked an opposing team's coach (don't remember who, though the original that I read had the name) before a game against the Bears, "Coach, how are you gonna stop Nagurski today?" The coach replied, "With a shotgun as he exits the locker room." Those were the days…
Na-gur-ski, But-kus, Nitch-ke, Cson-ka............hard-hitting names for hard-hitting players!
Completely different game and by different I mean better!
No comparison as to which product is better, right? It's not even close, in my opinion.
Bronco Nagurski was a badass
Just let him run by you, then jump on his back and hope for help.....kinda like what Krause did in the Super Bowl against Csonka.
@@markgardner9460 Ahh don't remind me 😂
Nagurski did however say that in today's game he would be exclusively a linebacker.
The Bronk died in January 1990, so whether or not he would have had the requisite skills to compete for a roster spot at Linebacker in the 1980's is unknown. I think, perhaps, that Middle Linebacker would have suited him best.
The Niners of the early 70's are kind of a forgotten team. Since I was a Rams fan as a kid I didn't cheer for them, but the team of Brodie and Willard were really good. They are forgotten largely because they were overshadowed by the 80's dynasty of Walsh, Montana and Lott. But the Niners of the early 70's were legit.
WR Gene Washington was terrific. He made All-Pro each of his first three years in the NFL and was superior to Dwight Clark, in my opinion. Center Forrest Blue was very good, too, and the 49ers defense was solid.
After they lost that comeback game to the Cowboys in the playoffs in 1972, they got lost until the wilderness until the 80s
San Francisco makes good use of a fullback, and there's a possibility that Pittsburgh, under new OC Arthur Smith, will be using tight end Connor Heyward in a fullback role. I'd like to see the fullback position revived not for the blocking so much as pass catcher. That's exactly what Heyward does best. Here's hoping!
Excellent. Thank you so much for your take!
Always thought Anderson was underappreciated. He was a good player. I was surprised he only played nine seasons. Playing with that type of offense with the Cardinals I'm surprised he didn't stick around longer
Rookie sensation Terry Metcalf and big Jim Otis were the main RB's for the Cards and I think that Anderson knew that the writing was on the wall - he was at the end of the line.
That oilers logo lol
It wasn't much, was it?
Interesting I would say
Bring back Fullbacks……..T, Wishbone, Single Wing, etc
didn't Norm Van Brocklin ''the Dutchman '' pass for over 500 yards in one game in the 1950s , unheard of in that era .
554 yards...still a record, amazingly!
Donny Anderson: I wonder if there was ever a player after the two way player era that was ever a punter AND a punt returner.
I'd say "no" and I don't know if there's ever been one who also added kickoff return duties to his long list of responsibilities. Great comment!
Probably won’t , but I wish it would.
I'm with ya. Thanks for offering your opinion.
Enjoyed the video, but why show Nagurski - who played in the 1930s - in an essay about the 1960s-'70s?
I showed Nagurski and Taylor in order to build up the Fullback position as being one to be played by only the toughest football players. The players featured thereafter were the ones who took the torch, so to speak, from Taylor, who in turn helped to carry on the legacy of the position that Nagurski created.
the 49ers have a fullback, and they played in the SB...so maybe fullbacks aren't really obsolete.
Yeah, he only ran the ball 5X during the regular season. I hear ya, but I'd like to see a lot more carries.
Again SUPER, UM Mark ,k :) u r the man please dont go away to quick" best era to me so full- hold up today' for interest games on TV
Thank you, Mike!
Mark ,sorry i missed the narrative '' underrated full backs '' i wondered why you didn't mention Jim Brown and Larry Csonka
No problem!
:33 A fullfront, if you will.....
Excellent work bro
Thanks ✌️
Great Fullbacks are Middle Linebackers of the offense
Well stated - I like that analogy!
Lest we forget
I love the dirty uniforms
Bronko Nagurski is one tough looking hombre.
Looks like he was chipped out of concrete
Jim Brown had a 5 yard per carry average for his ENTIRE career. Nobody wven comes closer in the power back ratings.
Marion Motley, Clark Hinkle both from before 1960 though.
Both are Hall of Famers that I wouldn't consider to be underrated, but thanks for giving props to these players from an era long ago.
Motley was a freak of nature. Amazing athlete.
The craziest running back of all time , Joe Don Looney .
It was an apt name, wasn't it?
@@markgardner94604 former teams he played for thought so
You ever hear of Larry Csonka?
Did you read the video title? "Underrated" is in it. Csonka is a Hall of Famer and far from being underrated.
Make your own video.
When a running game & a stout defense was the key to winning football! Unlike this wide open passing game that's now played! Back then it was football now it's entertainment! The only thing missing is to have Ed Sullivan announce the results of every play at midfield! Watched all those Running backs play! The 50's made the NFL Football a must watch! But the 60's & 70's made NFL Football America's Sport replacing MLB! Those players are the reason current NFL Players are making all the $$$$$$...!
You nailed it - every single statement. Thank you for your comments!
I heard George Halas claimed trading Bill Brown was the worst trade he ever made.
I wasn't able to determine what number draft choice Halas received in return, but it had to have been very low because he was going to waive Brown until the Vikes swooped in at the last second.
@@markgardner9460 From what I read the Vikings gave a 4th-round pick for him. I can look around and see exactly what publication I got that statement from.
Good players. The whole concept of running back has changed. Now the fullback is an extra tight end or a slot. College teams make a mistake of not having a FB for goal line or short yardage.
I agree wholeheartedly - thanks for your comments!
Fullbacks nowadays are only used for goal line and certain special plays I wish nfl teams would throw some t formations or an A Formation. The last teams used Mack strong Larry centers Mike Alstot the last known true
Gotta love The A-Train!
@@markgardner9460 Czonka and Morris both ran for a thousand yards one year. The only other tandem to run for a thousand the same year was Harris and Bleier. Both pairs had one power fullback.
I remember all these guys
Anyone remember the Lions Steve Owens or Jim Otis ?
Oh yeah. Otis is featured in one of my recent videos and Owens was featured in an earlier video.