@SsSs RoBbSs Unless you are attempting to engage in a debate influenced by Post-Modern questions about the very nature of truth, I suspect you are casting doubt on the basic veracity of accusations levelled in the video. Here goes! What is being suggested is that the Thanksgiving myth of nice Pilgrims sitting down to celebrate the harvest festival with grateful Native Americans is actually deeply misleading. It probably never happened. Moreover, It disguises the historical fact that primarily Judeo-Christian European settlers arrived (with documentation of passage to prove that they really did turn up!) a few hundred years ago and began the systematic slaughter and forced displacement of Native American tribes, godforsaken heathens, that lived in what we are now obliged to call the USA & Northern Mexico for probably thousands of years. Newly sequenced genomes suggest that the Native American gene pool goes as far back as 9,600 years ago, according to the recent study of remains in Brasil. Mass migration further North was gradual but, nevertheless, they were there (in Northern America) first and it can be easily verified through carbon dating of relics and bones and the study of genome traces. White Judeo-Christians decimated Indigenous 'opposition' through a series of major battles over 200 years in order to appropriate the land for the New Americans. In the early 17th Century, the settlers introduced the Slave trade in primarily African meat (I use that term intentionally, to reflect trader ideology at the time, not mine!) into America, with the help of their old European cousins to capture & deliver the vast amounts of cheap labour necessary to cultivate the abundant natural resources. Again, shipping and trading records are all there to prove it. The Harvest Festival also began in the early 17th Century by Pilgrims and developed into what is viewed by Native Americans as an intrinsically racist celebration of the 'accomplishments' of the new white settlers, toasting their victory over 'opposition' and chaos in order to create the New World, as reflected in their nicely organised, bountiful harvest each year, for which Americans give Thanksgiving to God to this day. That's what is basically true, my friend. I would have thought this was all common knowledge by now but there you go. What I will add, for those who feel I am targeting American history unfairly, is that virtually every nation on earth is responsible for historic atrocities against other nations/tribal settlements at some point. As Dr. Jacob Bronowski once pointed out, as soon as ancient nomads decided to settle down into organised farming communities (approx 10,000 years ago), other nomads saw a quick opportunity for free food & resources. Hence organised, relatively large scale warfare against settlements came into being. Nobody is free of guilt, historically speaking. We should just be thankful that our species still exists, really. Best wishes!
@@fatlacesthedon See what now, TH-cam influencers ? Umm ... it wasn't there becuase TH-cam wasn't created back then, you had Jim Jones and Charles Manson type of cults. And if you want to get technical you can even say the "Church Of Scientology" is a cult. I'm baffled by your intellect, please do explain your argument cause I'm really confused. Unless ... Ok .. your channel explains a lot. Good luck in the world good sir.
@@alphwolf598 You act like you weren't taught grammar in Elementary school; like there's not a reasonable expectation for you to speak English WITH correct grammar so that anyone who knows English can effectively communicate with you.
@@joew.4073 I don't know how to spell very well I was in special education but it don't slow me down from trying to better myself. So keep your great spelling and I'll keep my bad grammar
Imagine creating a society when “holidays” are one of the few occasions where people can actually spend time with their family. Genocide is still occurring, especially in Bolivia right now! We need to radically change the way we relate to each other and the environment! History is a weapon and I hope you continue to question, examine and thoroughly investigate the past!
Oh, yes, yesterday (January 4th) was a great World Braille Day that involved festivities of a significant portion of my family, a total of 8 people, playing Mario Kart, Wii tennis and Cards Against Humanity. My favorite holiday of 2020 so far.
@Chick Mcn of course they would say that, why would they make it a day to remember the natives. Both of these presidents had issues with uniting America so of-course they'd try to grasp on something almost every American believed in. They simply changed the narrative to adhere to solve their problems. James K Polk said that it was Americas 'manifest destiny' to claim America (Gods will) we know that was an excuse to gain more land for the US and remove the natives already living there.
Erdood she didn’t even debunk the story about Squanto or anything about the original thanksgiving, she just complained about native treatment, blah blah blah
I think it’s more along the lines of they taught us this at an early age because they couldn’t just ignore the holiday(s) so they had to explain them to children in the lightest most joyful way they could. And then the education system(s) failed us by not teaching the actual events at all later on.
all my life I've always wanted to know the truth about things so I dig, as a child I was asked to leave bible study for asking hard questions, once I asked an Native American, Paul Banyaca an amazing man ( look him up ) and he explained the truth about Thanksgiving from his peoples view he's/ was a Hopi Elder, LOVED this man his wisdom & compassion was unmatched. The world is a lesser place without him. however the BS we've been taught in school about our history, keep in mind history is written by the winners. do your homework folks
@@jer1014t2th if u have looked Paul up should give u a grand over view, he spoke at the UN several times, here's one, the US is the only reason the Native people aren't represented in the UN. my conversations with him mostly sitting at his feet next to his pot belly stove he always kept a fire going in for warmth while he'd laugh at me firing multiple questions at him. sorry this is a very long conversation, not prepared to tell yet, but do look him up
No, it shouldn't. Do you mourn other events that had nothing to do with anyone alive today that happened hundreds of year ago? No. Living in the past means never moving forward.
Nothing in the world has been sobbed over more than "Native American Genocide". I can literally think of more references to the tragedy of the American Indian in the media than the Holocaust. 364 days of mourning is not enough for you?
@@SoloTravelerOffTheBeatenPath truth is ppl like you think we suppose to move on get over it accept what happen. No did we get and apology or something for the evil act. No my children know the truth and we will never trust the Europeans we have to live with them but trust anything they say no. You never go unpunished for evil
“why do we dress our children up in costumes of people that did horrible things?” On halloween, why do we let our children dress up as pirates or ninjas? They also did terrible things which should never be honored. So your logic is flawed, ma’am
Classic comparison fallacy. There is underlying mythology surrounding thanksgiving that celebrates the puritans and the colonists while excusing the genocide. Furthermore, this mythology is pure propaganda to create a false narrative that the Puritans were tolerant and friendly to indigenous tribes which is far from the case. Halloween does not employ these tactics for pirates, ninjas etc. Thus, your argument is invalid.
This is a perfect example, of the mythology of Thanksgiving, "morphing over the centuries" that can be applied to religion. Because the same thing has happened there.
Don't be like this woman. She just wants people who had nothing to do with something to feel guilty. She won't be happy until Thanksgiving is canceled and it's because she's miserable.
@@joerogaine3093 Its more like they dont understand that bad things happen when you invite people in. Plus blaming disease on one group of people is racist.
1) Every single country has “stolen” land its how the world works 2) The person who made the redskins logo was a Native American and got it signed off but his government/community.
Well, if people are ungrateful for the settlers paving the way for most of you to be here, they could give their land to "natives" and move to whatever country their ancestors came from but they won't. Easier to just hate people who gave you opportunities.
i'm willing to bet all the dislikes came from the people who're trying to ignore the truth or have family that were part of or ok with this happening back then.
have u ever stoped and asked why these liberals only teach what the pilgrims did...u dont find it weird they dont teach u about who was here before the indians and who the indians killed
I think it’s because the lady isn’t speaking historical facts. The natives weren’t a monolith. They were dozens if not hundreds of different tribes. Check Prager U’s videos of thanksgiving. Look at the surveys done that show large percentages of minorities, excluding blacks, aren’t offended by most of the things that leftist tell you they are offended of.....exhibit A- only 10% of natives are offended by the Redskins mascot
This is idiotic. The truth is that it was a day of celebration, no matter how hard people who love identity politics try to divide everyone. This lady’s opinion is fine with me until she started lying about the first Thanksgiving. I’m sick to death at people who try to pit one identity group against another. Thanksgiving was a happy day where no one was attacked or killed. Thee are indisputable facts. Stop trying to make feelings Trump facts.
@@RFroracer if anyone bothered to read a little about the history of Plymouth, they’d know that the colonists did not STEAL any land. Squanto took them there because he thought it’d be a good place to settle, and Massasoit, sachem of the Wampanoag, gave the colonists permission to live there on that empty land. Once they agreed on terms and signed a treaty, he certainly wanted them to stay there in case they were threatened by the Narragansett. They agreed to be allies and the colonists kept their word.
When the missionaries came to Africa they had the Bible and we had the land. They said 'Let us pray.' We closed our eyes. When we opened them we had the Bible and they had the land. Desmond Tutu
I mean Thanksgiving was made a federal holiday by Abraham Lincoln as a means of searching back into American history and finding a moment where people with extreme differences actually got along for a single meal. No one was ever taught that the pilgrims treated Indians kindly or vice versa, it was the opposite. That was why it was significant to see even a single meal be shared in solitude. This was because American was under some of the most divided and tumultuous time in American history. And honestly that is exactly the kind of day we need to be having. Perhaps that isn’t your pick for such a time of coming together. Pick a new one then! Turkey wasn’t even served during that historic meal anyhow, but the point was to be thankful of the blessing we are living in a hopeful for a brighter future
You’re missing the point. Your ignorance is the problem and your willingness to be ignorant however we know the truth. We don’t forgive you and justice will come
many families just wanna spend time together and be thankful for everything we have and that we take for granted everyday, what's wrong with spending time with your family and being thankful
Nothing is wrong with that. That's what I do. But many people celebrate it for that event and never acknowledge the real truth behind it. She's showing awareness. I do the same with xmas. Xmas is the day of giving and Thanksgiving is the day of togetherness. You can put your own stamp on it I guess. Happy Turkey day my friend.
I agree sucks the history behind it thought.... What we can do thought is show apreciation in this day towards native Americans... Il be the first and say thank you
it's a monetized holiday, about genocide and stolen land. But dumbass America will make you believe it's about spending time with family, I bet companies pockets are overflowing right now, bloodshed never tasted better.
@@jessetellez3924 No, it's actually the other way around. Since it's the Truth, you have to search for it. It's not in the propaganda-pushing algorithm.
It is a lopsided, as learning something new. It is very boring, and really.....nobody cares!! History, is in the eye of the beholder. Ex. Fasthorse is a fake name cause it is in English. It hard to take this serious.
@@MariaMaria-ng5ki no it’s far from the truth. Early settlers and native Americans experienced many years of peace before any violence took place. But the truth is that everyone back then were savages, not just the settlers. Thanksgiving is about unity and family, but can also be about recognizing the events that took place.
@@MariaMaria-ng5ki he is correct. the famous dinner with the pilgrims happened between 1619-1621 the horrifical massacre shes talking about happened in 1782. that would have been around 7 to 8 generations later. a simple look into the dates tells you it isn't true
What matters is that they inspired people to come to "the new land" leading to most of our ancestors to come here resulting in most of the people watching this to be alive. Stop being ungrateful.
Ever since I was younger and we learned about native americans in history class I always wondered why would we celebrate thanksgiving with all the horrible things that was done to them. That's why to this day I don't celebrate it. And wherever I tell someone that they say " that's dumb, thats not what Thanksgiving is about".
While yes the origin of thanksgiving has very dark undertones,I don’t think the average person is thinking about it as celebrated Native American genocide,rather a celebration of giving thanks and for family,I think it has morphed into something different from its origins to a point where it is completely new. But if you don’t want to celebrate for one reason or another I can respect that
@@sniceverything4944 while I get that people choose to celebrate about giving thanks and spending time with loved ones I also feel like it's one of the issues here in the US. It's like "Hey, look at this one good thing, but we don't talk about or acknowledge all the bad things behind it."
I appreciate Thanksgiving as a holiday, but understanding the true history and sequence of events as a whole can bring so much more depth to the holiday and can morph into a greater respect of how we got here today and what we can do now.
to bad.. its 2022 we have high speed internet and people as ignorant as ever. most people dont even think that Natives still to this day live in reservations on there own land.
@@blackdrop3844 -It’s funny to hear people speak of ignorance, who don’t know any of the actual history, only modern activist propaganda. In actual history, the Mohawk dominated the Iroquois Confederacy and subjugated other tribes by forcing them into wars against still other tribes and even eradicating tribes rebellious to the Confederacy. How they used their connections with British fur traders to trade for huge amounts of firearms so they could ruthlessly attack and eradicate Algonquin tribes and take their land, who had once been the conquerors. Most of the actual history of the many tribes, that were not unified, is filled with these types of events, just like Europe 1600 years ago, or Asia 2000 years ago, Africa, even today, and South America 500 years ago. I don’t hear people complaining that the remnant people in Europe from the tribes that existed there before be enshrined and given back their lands. Countries like Nepal, Russia, and China have stolen lands that were conquered by the Mongolians, just like Native American tribes. Where are their reparations? Or what about the Huns whose land the Mongols stole before that? They were driven to the West and ended up on the Eastern Roman Empire’s door step in their own trail of tears. What about the tribes the Huns displaced…? The Earth’s history, including the hundreds of North American tribes is one of the conquerors and the conquered. And, just because that has happened doesn’t mean we can’t have and celebrate holidays’ whose meanings surpass their origins.
@@blackdrop3844 On "their" land, if you want to know the truth, this land was conquered by Americans and those mfs are treason to USA but still act like victims to get free stuff.
Obviously a LOT of bad tragedies happened with the colonialism of America, and Thanksgiving includes some of that, but Thanksgiving has morphed beyond that. Thanksgiving is a time for family, for friends, and for giving thanks to all the good stuff you have in life. And if you look at it that way, it loses its connection to a pretty bad history.
@@lunawolfheart336 of course it still has connection, although thanksgiving was one of the first times in which the settlers and natives celebrated together. The pilgrims faced hardship too, they were fleeing religious persecution from England. The majority of them died from disease, hunger, and the freezing winter. There wouldn’t be a Thanksgiving without the Indigenous people though, the Wampanoag tribe helped them survive. Eventually the natives contributed 5 deer for the feast and sat down alongside the pilgrims at the first thanksgiving, which was originally the celebration of the successful crop harvest, which couldn’t have happened without the natives help. Of course it was a tragedy that their land was stolen but without indigenous people there would not be a thanksgiving. We can give thanks to them to
Her level of arrogance and ignorance is astounding. Like it or not, this is the cruel history of the world. Europeans did drive out her Lakota ancestors; however, her ancestors did the same to the Cheyenne and Crow tribes who were in the Black Hills first. Thanksgiving is about the unity between pilgrims and the Wampanoag who banded together for protection from rival tribes.
What political agenda would serve the pilgrim's by thanking the people who saved them from starvation? On top of that, 'the stolen land' was conquered 1700s by settlers and native Americans. You are not going to be able to unchanged any of that from the history of native Americans and the history of the United States.
zak ortega its sad native Americans set a feast to welcome english settlers... They got sick with thier diseases then got backstabed after the banquete they made for them...... Happy thanksgiving
The truth is documented by Edward Winslow and William Bradford. Liberal hatemongers are hurt by the truth because its humanizes white people the same way the WWI Christmas Truce humanizes Germans.
One the the woman talking wasn't born in the 1700's what does she know about early America nothing at all. I'm native American no MF has the right to be mad unless you native Americans. But the past has mad us stronger and we come together on this holiday with family no to linger on the past to remember how far we have came as people
Dont Hate The Truth we didn’t come far at all I’m Native American as well. And we have NOT gotten stronger my friend. As sad as I am to say it, we’re dying and no one isn’t doing anything.. except watch
Did anyone actually think Thanksgiving had happy origins? Its the same as anywhere in the world, there are conquerers and there are victims. The victors make the history and the holidays.
Thanksgiving was a feast between the pilgrims and wampanoags, a cooperation of cultures after which there was 50 years of peace. Thats what we celebrate.
Lew 287 native Americans set up a feast for the English settlers.... they got sick and then pilgrims backstabbed them after the banquet natives Americans made for them..... Happy thanksgiving
It's crazy to me there are people this naive in the world TOO much free time on their hands for anyone living on american soil give me one exampe of a safer nation you can reside in and why aren't you there?
Yes the way Thanksgiving is taught in school isn't 100% accurate but you shouldn't feel bad about celebrating Thanksgiving. I have a native American background and me and family celebrate the holiday every year. When we talk about genocide that didn't happen on the first Thanksgiving there actually was a 60 yr peace between the two peoples. The pilgrims had no intentions of stealing land and actually were planning to pay for land. Now as the first generation started to die tensions between the two started to grow as more and more English started to arrive. Yes the holiday does have a dark history but the core of the holiday is good. It's really about family sharing a meal which the best thing family can do. Also it's about two different peoples coming together and breaking bread. Even thought the peace was short it's still a special moment in history.
@@brittanyhayes1043 Everyone has ancestors that did bad things, and every piece of livable land in the world has changed hands involuntarily many times. As if the native tribes didn't fight each other and take land from each other through violent means long before Europeans arrived.
@@lawv804 You are not understanding what I mean. White people through MSM are being shamed for the ancestors sins. They shouldn't have to be shamed. They are doing it through CRT in schools on children as a opressor/oppressed narrative.
@@brittanyhayes1043 Sorry about that. You're right, nobody should be shamed for their ancestors sins. We should all be born with a blank slate in our own lives. I can trace my own ancestry back to Jamestown; they endured tremendous hardship in order to survive, and I would not try to judge then for any of the choices they made.
My teachers told us the truth even in high school. Thanksgiving is nothing more then a harvest meal to me and its for family and friends. We also look to history in my house.
Frankly when I was young and learned the truth about thanksgiving it was disappointing and I wondered why we celebrated it. But then I just decided to use it as a day of mourning for the indigenous people who died and be thankful for their kindness for helping the pilgrims when they first came to America even though their kindness was never returned and as a day to be thankful for what I have. So when I saw that indigenous people used the day for mourning as well in the video I was kind of happy that I was respecting the day, the way they wanted it to be respected.
@@sinatra222 Person A and B are fighting so person C comes and kills both take their land. Even though Native Americans were conquered we still treated them unfairly for so many years and broke thousands of treaties.
*sigh* I don't know what you "learned" but its all wrong. Thanksgiving was a European tradition brought over to the New World, and "The First Thanksgiving" was a real event documented by Edward Winslow and William Bradford (it's a bit of a misnomer but still).
thanksgiving is the day to be thankful, regardless of its perceived origin. lets use the day to celebrate our family, and the ancient ancestors of this land.
And it tells everyone to not celebrate these worldly days in the Bible yet ppl still do them. This video is the reason why. And ppl say that they feel obligated to family is understandable, but what if GOD asked you faced to face why did you celebrate thanksgiving when I told you not too,,,what will you say to him?
I don’t want to participate in thanksgiving anymore. I know I’ll receive lash back from my family, but I’ve always hated the truth of it. Time to step out of it
It is the same in all countries the whites just walked into and took like Australia where I am.I am white and sometimes it's very embarrassing what our forefathers did with no regret apparently.!!!!..my thoughts.👍👍
The Actual meaning of thanksgiving is to remember that we can all come together, like the pilgrims and native Americans did, regardless of background and past. Sure atrocities have been committed, but that’s not what this day was MEANT to represent.
@@unclelester9701 Spaniards did worse and basically eradicated a civilization and culture more than America's Natives. Authentic "mayan" traditions and language pretty much dead. Mexican traditional stuff like the regional dances and music are all derivative of Spanish stuff. 🤷🏽♀️
Catherine Arnpriester what about the Spanish, are you saying that they never wrote the requerimento so they had an excuse to enslave natives in the americas
@Se Ou did the Japanese do that but on a bigger scale. Oh wait yeah they did but like 3 times more and more gruesome to but I dont see anyone talking about that do i?
I think it's unfair on the sons to bear the sins of their fathers. As an Indian(the ones Europe was actually fishing around for), I don't feel any animosity towards the Brits of today, save for the racist bad apples among them, every group has those. And even if someone walked up to me and puts it the way this woman did, offering reparations, it's kind of....demeaning frankly. People in need deserve to be helped, but not to ease your guilt over ancient history, but just because they're in need. It can be the Native American tribe being strongarmed by the local authorities, or the hobo across the street hoping for a meal. Don't discriminate, it's what got us in this mess.
The amount of ignorant comments in the comment section is disgusting. If you think Thanksgiving is ruined and that this was unnecessary. It's facts facts that were hidden from you and she's telling it don't be mad cuz you were uneducated
Don't worry. The world will know soon who the land of the United States belong to. I just hope people are ready to accept it. To hear truth and to believe what was told is truth are two different actions. I'm telling you world, seek the truth and know it. So when it is revealed, it won't come as a surprise and you'll have enough time to make things right. The worst thing that can happen to any person is to believe in something your whole life, then to be told what you believed was true, turns out to be a lie. Stay safe everyone.
What part is not kid friendly? People teach their kids to believe in a zombie carpenter or they will burn forever.... why can't you teach them their country is built at the expense of an indigenous population that was displaced? Unless you mean something that will keep a young child's attention, in which case I may agree with you...
That's just candy coating authentic history and just as bad as "And the Natives taught the pilgrims how to grow corn :)" Beating around the bush is also highly American.
99.9% have no idea why we celebrate this holiday. I don't really blame them because I know a lot of them see it as a "get together" holiday and it works. But they don't know the history. Families get together and have a meal and converse, etc. But they really can't answer the why we have this holiday. Since I know what happened, I don't see it this way. I feel a bit depressed when it does come around. Thanksgiving and Colombus Day are ridiculous holidays we celebrate. They really should reconsider changing these holidays to something else...perhaps mourning.
im grateful for the good ole USA and so should all of you and we should protect her.i enjoy celebrating thanksgiving but there are always these people who try to be downers on everything and make us feel bad over stuff that happened over 500 years ago and i dont
Nothing wrong with Thanksgiving. Just butt hurt people who can't take history or try to use a different part of history to upsurp its meaning. 1621 Thanksgiving happened. This lady and other MSM outlests are focusing in the 1637 massacre of the Parqout people. We are not celebrating that day. People just focus on trying to destroy a holiday that means alot to most people in the Unite States and in other countries.
Lmao (sorry for laughing) yes yes yeeees they do, and a history that follows to match, look up mass Graves at "residential schools" and then look up what residential school are, then let it set in that the last one closed in 1996...to give just one creepy quote from a proponent of the schools "kill the Indian to save the man"
As far as I know, no, not specific to Thanksgiving, but yes, Canada has a similarly long and ongoing history of colonization, stealing land, and genocide towards Indigenous people. Canadian Thanksgiving is a separate holiday from American Thanksgiving with a different origin. Canadian Thanksgiving was celebrated before the American pilgrims ever made it to the Americas and it was more closely linked to harvest festivals that were celebrated in Europe. That said, Canada still has a terrible history of treating Indigenous people unbelievably badly and we can continue to see this today in the lack of clean drinking water on many reserves, the inadequate healthcare options and food insecurity for those in northern and remote communities, the general racism in society, the effects of generational trauma, etc.
@@jeremysmith9694 do you understand that territorial disputes amoung native nations is entirely different than a settler colonial genocide.... or your missing the point on purpose 👍 ok
No, you have no clue. Much bad has been done, throughout history. When you examine other cultures, in Europe, Asia, and the Middle and Far East, you'll quickly discover that, despite early American actions, they were in no way equal to what happened elsewhere. Yes, they were wrong, but that was long ago, so get over it. If you can't, you have issues.
I agree! I have native blood proven through 23 and me. However, every nation in the world has the right. This is a defeated nation and it the only not one those that were stolen. Consider Africa and Israel. It was defeated. A part of history.
I personally celebrate thanksgiving by giving thanks to God for what we have and we all know what really happen but its not gonna stop me from spending time with my family which its what really matters now about this holiday.
Sure, I agree that things weren't so wonderful with the colonists. I disagree, people that haven't perpetrated the offenses you speak of, shouldn't pay reparations. None of us have a choice about where we are born. We shouldn't be held accountable for what we haven't done. We are not guilty of the transgressions that our fathers have committed.
Some people sure like taking a good family holiday and ruining it. I have a family that I love and we look forward to getting together once a year to enjoy a fabulous turkey dinner 😋
@@kingkeyon-lo2oi Not brain washed 🙄 I have a family who loves me dearly and likes my cooking and wants to spend time with me. I don't think the OP, or y6iu, can say the same 🤔
They didn’t teach this in my history classes.
because it's not true
hannah1943 it is true
@@hannah1943 Excuse me what??_
@SsSs RoBbSs Unless you are attempting to engage in a debate influenced by Post-Modern questions about the very nature of truth, I suspect you are casting doubt on the basic veracity of accusations levelled in the video. Here goes! What is being suggested is that the Thanksgiving myth of nice Pilgrims sitting down to celebrate the harvest festival with grateful Native Americans is actually deeply misleading. It probably never happened. Moreover, It disguises the historical fact that primarily Judeo-Christian European settlers arrived (with documentation of passage to prove that they really did turn up!) a few hundred years ago and began the systematic slaughter and forced displacement of Native American tribes, godforsaken heathens, that lived in what we are now obliged to call the USA & Northern Mexico for probably thousands of years. Newly sequenced genomes suggest that the Native American gene pool goes as far back as 9,600 years ago, according to the recent study of remains in Brasil. Mass migration further North was gradual but, nevertheless, they were there (in Northern America) first and it can be easily verified through carbon dating of relics and bones and the study of genome traces. White Judeo-Christians decimated Indigenous 'opposition' through a series of major battles over 200 years in order to appropriate the land for the New Americans. In the early 17th Century, the settlers introduced the Slave trade in primarily African meat (I use that term intentionally, to reflect trader ideology at the time, not mine!) into America, with the help of their old European cousins to capture & deliver the vast amounts of cheap labour necessary to cultivate the abundant natural resources. Again, shipping and trading records are all there to prove it. The Harvest Festival also began in the early 17th Century by Pilgrims and developed into what is viewed by Native Americans as an intrinsically racist celebration of the 'accomplishments' of the new white settlers, toasting their victory over 'opposition' and chaos in order to create the New World, as reflected in their nicely organised, bountiful harvest each year, for which Americans give Thanksgiving to God to this day. That's what is basically true, my friend. I would have thought this was all common knowledge by now but there you go.
What I will add, for those who feel I am targeting American history unfairly, is that virtually every nation on earth is responsible for historic atrocities against other nations/tribal settlements at some point. As Dr. Jacob Bronowski once pointed out, as soon as ancient nomads decided to settle down into organised farming communities (approx 10,000 years ago), other nomads saw a quick opportunity for free food & resources. Hence organised, relatively large scale warfare against settlements came into being. Nobody is free of guilt, historically speaking. We should just be thankful that our species still exists, really. Best wishes!
They didn't teach you that Abraham Lincoln was a Republican.
Meanwhile TH-cam influencers are treated like cult gods. Oh how times have changed.
People are getting dumber 100%
Just because you see it now doesn't mean it wasn't always there... Talking about dumb people
@@fatlacesthedon See what now, TH-cam influencers ? Umm ... it wasn't there becuase TH-cam wasn't created back then, you had Jim Jones and Charles Manson type of cults. And if you want to get technical you can even say the "Church Of Scientology" is a cult. I'm baffled by your intellect, please do explain your argument cause I'm really confused. Unless ...
Ok .. your channel explains a lot. Good luck in the world good sir.
@@alphwolf598 You act like you weren't taught grammar in Elementary school; like there's not a reasonable expectation for you to speak English WITH correct grammar so that anyone who knows English can effectively communicate with you.
@@joew.4073 I don't know how to spell very well I was in special education but it don't slow me down from trying to better myself. So keep your great spelling and I'll keep my bad grammar
@@alphwolf598 You don’t owe anyone an explanation.🙏🏼🙂
Imagine creating a society when “holidays” are one of the few occasions where people can actually spend time with their family. Genocide is still occurring, especially in Bolivia right now! We need to radically change the way we relate to each other and the environment!
History is a weapon and I hope you continue to question, examine and thoroughly investigate the past!
You crybaby liberals can never stop complaing
Imagine taking this video at face value and believing everything on the internet. This video is a lie, it’s propaganda.
Oh, yes, yesterday (January 4th) was a great World Braille Day that involved festivities of a significant portion of my family, a total of 8 people, playing Mario Kart, Wii tennis and Cards Against Humanity. My favorite holiday of 2020 so far.
@@Nardos553 everything's political nowadays apparently
@@Nardos553 history is politics.
That's why I see Thanksgiving as a regular ordinary day
Brainwashing complete
@@mossbergshockwave9629 by the truth.
Is believing in gravity brainwashing?
Or that lighting strikes harm or fire you?
@Chick Mcn of course they would say that, why would they make it a day to remember the natives. Both of these presidents had issues with uniting America so of-course they'd try to grasp on something almost every American believed in. They simply changed the narrative to adhere to solve their problems. James K Polk said that it was Americas 'manifest destiny' to claim America (Gods will) we know that was an excuse to gain more land for the US and remove the natives already living there.
Erdood she didn’t even debunk the story about Squanto or anything about the original thanksgiving, she just complained about native treatment, blah blah blah
Native Americana call Thanksgiving a celebration of horror .
As to "stealing" the land, EVERY major land mass has been taken by those with guns and more men.
European folk who believe in the promised land beiin theirs only..rich peoples only
This is just ONE of the stories we were brain washed & lied to about
I think it’s more along the lines of they taught us this at an early age because they couldn’t just ignore the holiday(s) so they had to explain them to children in the lightest most joyful way they could. And then the education system(s) failed us by not teaching the actual events at all later on.
all my life I've always wanted to know the truth about things so I dig, as a child I was asked to leave bible study for asking hard questions, once I asked an Native American, Paul Banyaca an amazing man ( look him up ) and he explained the truth about Thanksgiving from his peoples view he's/ was a Hopi Elder, LOVED this man his wisdom & compassion was unmatched. The world is a lesser place without him. however the BS we've been taught in school about our history, keep in mind history is written by the winners. do your homework folks
@Marshall Kinnaird shut up! History is great. There is good history and theres bad history.
I'd love to hear what he told you.
@@jer1014t2th if u have looked Paul up should give u a grand over view, he spoke at the UN several times, here's one, the US is the only reason the Native people aren't represented in the UN. my conversations with him mostly sitting at his feet next to his pot belly stove he always kept a fire going in for warmth while he'd laugh at me firing multiple questions at him. sorry this is a very long conversation, not prepared to tell yet, but do look him up
The Hopi had nothing to do with Thanksgiving
@@aidanroberts9888 never said they did
Thanksgiving should be a day of mourning... and remembrance.
No, it shouldn't. Do you mourn other events that had nothing to do with anyone alive today that happened hundreds of year ago? No. Living in the past means never moving forward.
polifatts your ignorance is what’s wrong with the world today
@Se Ou that's harsh.
Nothing in the world has been sobbed over more than "Native American Genocide". I can literally think of more references to the tragedy of the American Indian in the media than the Holocaust. 364 days of mourning is not enough for you?
@@SoloTravelerOffTheBeatenPath truth is ppl like you think we suppose to move on get over it accept what happen. No did we get and apology or something for the evil act. No my children know the truth and we will never trust the Europeans we have to live with them but trust anything they say no. You never go unpunished for evil
“why do we dress our children up in costumes of people that did horrible things?”
On halloween, why do we let our children dress up as pirates or ninjas? They also did terrible things which should never be honored. So your logic is flawed, ma’am
Classic comparison fallacy. There is underlying mythology surrounding thanksgiving that celebrates the puritans and the colonists while excusing the genocide. Furthermore, this mythology is pure propaganda to create a false narrative that the Puritans were tolerant and friendly to indigenous tribes which is far from the case. Halloween does not employ these tactics for pirates, ninjas etc. Thus, your argument is invalid.
Catherine Arnpriester
Well you can’t say that one side was innocent and the other evil.
We should honor native americans and their culture on thanksgiving instead
This is a perfect example, of the mythology of Thanksgiving, "morphing over the centuries" that can be applied to religion. Because the same thing has happened there.
@leicanoct 👏👏👏👍
Don't be like this woman. She just wants people who had nothing to do with something to feel guilty. She won't be happy until Thanksgiving is canceled and it's because she's miserable.
@@joerogaine3093 Its more like they dont understand that bad things happen when you invite people in. Plus blaming disease on one group of people is racist.
@@joerogaine3093 Thanksgiving will never be canceled. No matter how much they cry.
@@brittanyhayes1043 Yep, you get it
1) Every single country has “stolen” land its how the world works
2) The person who made the redskins logo was a Native American and got it signed off but his government/community.
"An Indian". Smh
@@cameliajay5039 Native american mb
Naw look up the website 3 generation! Those are natives who are against using their image and name for white sports teams.
Well, if people are ungrateful for the settlers paving the way for most of you to be here, they could give their land to "natives" and move to whatever country their ancestors came from but they won't. Easier to just hate people who gave you opportunities.
i'm willing to bet all the dislikes came from the people who're trying to ignore the truth or have family that were part of or ok with this happening back then.
I don’t care about it lol
have u ever stoped and asked why these liberals only teach what the pilgrims did...u dont find it weird they dont teach u about who was here before the indians and who the indians killed
I think it’s because the lady isn’t speaking historical facts. The natives weren’t a monolith. They were dozens if not hundreds of different tribes. Check Prager U’s videos of thanksgiving. Look at the surveys done that show large percentages of minorities, excluding blacks, aren’t offended by most of the things that leftist tell you they are offended of.....exhibit A- only 10% of natives are offended by the Redskins mascot
This is idiotic. The truth is that it was a day of celebration, no matter how hard people who love identity politics try to divide everyone. This lady’s opinion is fine with me until she started lying about the first Thanksgiving. I’m sick to death at people who try to pit one identity group against another. Thanksgiving was a happy day where no one was attacked or killed. Thee are indisputable facts. Stop trying to make feelings Trump facts.
@@RFroracer if anyone bothered to read a little about the history of Plymouth, they’d know that the colonists did not STEAL any land. Squanto took them there because he thought it’d be a good place to settle, and Massasoit, sachem of the Wampanoag, gave the colonists permission to live there on that empty land. Once they agreed on terms and signed a treaty, he certainly wanted them to stay there in case they were threatened by the Narragansett. They agreed to be allies and the colonists kept their word.
searched these vids up to see the truth about why we are celebrating colonists
same, can't wait to educate my conservative family
Who tf cares it’s about family and being together
@@MonkezNation you can celebrate it that way no one is stopping you, it’s just good to be educated on the reason it’s a thing
@@cara88888 Correction, you meant why we are celebrating racists? 🤷♂️
@@ScroogeMcDuck. same thing basically
When the missionaries came to Africa they had the Bible and we had the land. They said 'Let us pray.' We closed our eyes. When we opened them we had the Bible and they had the land.
Desmond Tutu
🥀💔 True history.
Land that they actually made use of
I mean Thanksgiving was made a federal holiday by Abraham Lincoln as a means of searching back into American history and finding a moment where people with extreme differences actually got along for a single meal. No one was ever taught that the pilgrims treated Indians kindly or vice versa, it was the opposite. That was why it was significant to see even a single meal be shared in solitude. This was because American was under some of the most divided and tumultuous time in American history. And honestly that is exactly the kind of day we need to be having. Perhaps that isn’t your pick for such a time of coming together. Pick a new one then! Turkey wasn’t even served during that historic meal anyhow, but the point was to be thankful of the blessing we are living in a hopeful for a brighter future
Idk I was taught that they got along just fine when I was a kid I was taught to complete lie.
You’re missing the point. Your ignorance is the problem and your willingness to be ignorant however we know the truth. We don’t forgive you and justice will come
many families just wanna spend time together and be thankful for everything we have and that we take for granted everyday, what's wrong with spending time with your family and being thankful
Nothin. But it sounds like you didn't watch the video. ,🤔
Nothing is wrong with that. That's what I do. But many people celebrate it for that event and never acknowledge the real truth behind it. She's showing awareness. I do the same with xmas. Xmas is the day of giving and Thanksgiving is the day of togetherness. You can put your own stamp on it I guess. Happy Turkey day my friend.
I agree sucks the history behind it thought.... What we can do thought is show apreciation in this day towards native Americans... Il be the first and say thank you
Funny Visuals why you ask “ what’s wrong “ ?
it's a monetized holiday, about genocide and stolen land. But dumbass America will make you believe it's about spending time with family, I bet companies pockets are overflowing right now, bloodshed never tasted better.
Why doesn’t this have a million views???
Because it isn't true
@@jessetellez3924 No, it's actually the other way around.
Since it's the Truth, you have to search for it.
It's not in the propaganda-pushing algorithm.
It is a lopsided, as learning something new. It is very boring, and really.....nobody cares!! History, is in the eye of the beholder. Ex. Fasthorse is a fake name cause it is in English. It hard to take this serious.
@@MariaMaria-ng5ki no it’s far from the truth.
Early settlers and native Americans experienced many years of peace before any violence took place. But the truth is that everyone back then were savages, not just the settlers. Thanksgiving is about unity and family, but can also be about recognizing the events that took place.
@@MariaMaria-ng5ki he is correct. the famous dinner with the pilgrims happened between 1619-1621 the horrifical massacre shes talking about happened in 1782. that would have been around 7 to 8 generations later. a simple look into the dates tells you it isn't true
No genocide was conducted on Thanksgiving and its a day we come together to be thankful not to kill...
this is a cold harsh reality. Keep bringing the truth.
What matters is that they inspired people to come to "the new land" leading to most of our ancestors to come here resulting in most of the people watching this to be alive. Stop being ungrateful.
Y’all dress up for thanksgiving
I’ve never seen anyone dress up for thanksgiving
I'm sorry this happened to the Native Americans. This is a day l DO NOT celebrate.
History class at this point is just a facade.
Ever since I was younger and we learned about native americans in history class I always wondered why would we celebrate thanksgiving with all the horrible things that was done to them. That's why to this day I don't celebrate it. And wherever I tell someone that they say " that's dumb, thats not what Thanksgiving is about".
I mean they are right Thanksgiving is about celebrating genocide lol
Yep, or they look at you crazy when you say you don't celebrate ANY holidays.
While yes the origin of thanksgiving has very dark undertones,I don’t think the average person is thinking about it as celebrated Native American genocide,rather a celebration of giving thanks and for family,I think it has morphed into something different from its origins to a point where it is completely new. But if you don’t want to celebrate for one reason or another I can respect that
@@sniceverything4944 while I get that people choose to celebrate about giving thanks and spending time with loved ones I also feel like it's one of the issues here in the US. It's like "Hey, look at this one good thing, but we don't talk about or acknowledge all the bad things behind it."
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I appreciate Thanksgiving as a holiday, but understanding the true history and sequence of events as a whole can bring so much more depth to the holiday and can morph into a greater respect of how we got here today and what we can do now.
to bad.. its 2022 we have high speed internet and people as ignorant as ever. most people dont even think that Natives still to this day live in reservations on there own land.
@@blackdrop3844 -It’s funny to hear people speak of ignorance, who don’t know any of the actual history, only modern activist propaganda. In actual history, the Mohawk dominated the Iroquois Confederacy and subjugated other tribes by forcing them into wars against still other tribes and even eradicating tribes rebellious to the Confederacy. How they used their connections with British fur traders to trade for huge amounts of firearms so they could ruthlessly attack and eradicate Algonquin tribes and take their land, who had once been the conquerors. Most of the actual history of the many tribes, that were not unified, is filled with these types of events, just like Europe 1600 years ago, or Asia 2000 years ago, Africa, even today, and South America 500 years ago.
I don’t hear people complaining that the remnant people in Europe from the tribes that existed there before be enshrined and given back their lands. Countries like Nepal, Russia, and China have stolen lands that were conquered by the Mongolians, just like Native American tribes. Where are their reparations? Or what about the Huns whose land the Mongols stole before that? They were driven to the West and ended up on the Eastern Roman Empire’s door step in their own trail of tears. What about the tribes the Huns displaced…? The Earth’s history, including the hundreds of North American tribes is one of the conquerors and the conquered. And, just because that has happened doesn’t mean we can’t have and celebrate holidays’ whose meanings surpass their origins.
@@blackdrop3844 you are still in the dark and drunk off colonizers' lies.
@@blackdrop3844 On "their" land, if you want to know the truth, this land was conquered by Americans and those mfs are treason to USA but still act like victims to get free stuff.
History is written by the victors. So we downplayed everything, and made it all happy and cheery instead of the truth.
Obviously a LOT of bad tragedies happened with the colonialism of America, and Thanksgiving includes some of that, but Thanksgiving has morphed beyond that.
Thanksgiving is a time for family, for friends, and for giving thanks to all the good stuff you have in life. And if you look at it that way, it loses its connection to a pretty bad history.
No it will always have that connection to the people who's land was stolen from.
@@lunawolfheart336 of course it still has connection, although thanksgiving was one of the first times in which the settlers and natives celebrated together.
The pilgrims faced hardship too, they were fleeing religious persecution from England. The majority of them died from disease, hunger, and the freezing winter. There wouldn’t be a Thanksgiving without the Indigenous people though, the Wampanoag tribe helped them survive.
Eventually the natives contributed 5 deer for the feast and sat down alongside the pilgrims at the first thanksgiving, which was originally the celebration of the successful crop harvest, which couldn’t have happened without the natives help.
Of course it was a tragedy that their land was stolen but without indigenous people there would not be a thanksgiving. We can give thanks to them to
Number one rule of human society: all the land in the world is yours.
If you can keep it.
The natives ultimately could not.
This sucks.
Get over it.
May allah civilize europe soon
@@fwefhwe4232 you a troll? Because that in no way makes sense
Care to explain?
@@jer1014t2th You conquered their land,killed their parents and you don't feel Guilty?
@@akunlama89 They did not feel guilty in killing other tribes and trading food and fur for muskets and powder.
I do not celebrate holidays. Me and my family spend time everyday.
I don't celebrate either. I used to. I just wait till these awful holidays pass each year.
@@feferosette Exactly 💯
Her level of arrogance and ignorance is astounding. Like it or not, this is the cruel history of the world. Europeans did drive out her Lakota ancestors; however, her ancestors did the same to the Cheyenne and Crow tribes who were in the Black Hills first. Thanksgiving is about the unity between pilgrims and the Wampanoag who banded together for protection from rival tribes.
Did you delete my comment buddy?
That's an interesting argument.
What political agenda would serve the pilgrim's by thanking the people who saved them from starvation? On top of that, 'the stolen land' was conquered 1700s by settlers and native Americans. You are not going to be able to unchanged any of that from the history of native Americans and the history of the United States.
She just wants to feel like she's doing something meaningful. She's not actually doing anything.
HAPPY THANKSGIVING to all my triggers lib friends
Why do we celebrate Christmas Even though it's a pagan tradition?
Becuase its a celebration of the birth of Jesus Christ
The colors red green and white resemblance to flag in Rome...
Akil ok boomer
Uncle Lester Christmas is not the birth of Jesus. It’s a pagan holiday invented from babylon
@@unclelester9701 false
Glad to have the liberty to complain about this.
She’s speaking facts
LOL!!
What part of Thanksgiving has to do with Genocide then?
@bridogg154 wtf is wrong with u
@@dfmrcv862 the 170 million native Americans slaughtered.
zak ortega its sad native Americans set a feast to welcome english settlers... They got sick with thier diseases then got backstabed after the banquete they made for them...... Happy thanksgiving
Land has been take from people that were already thier since the begging of human race.
Truth hurts!!
The truth is documented by Edward Winslow and William Bradford. Liberal hatemongers are hurt by the truth because its humanizes white people the same way the WWI Christmas Truce humanizes Germans.
Where do I get that T-shirt??
I'll love to find it too!
Yep. I need that.
This is adorable, now please pass the turkey gravy.
@Nonconformist Ent. | Music,News,Gaming,Rants,Etc. If u say so, please pass the yams buttered squash.
One the the woman talking wasn't born in the 1700's what does she know about early America nothing at all. I'm native American no MF has the right to be mad unless you native Americans. But the past has mad us stronger and we come together on this holiday with family no to linger on the past to remember how far we have came as people
Dont Hate The Truth we didn’t come far at all I’m Native American as well. And we have NOT gotten stronger my friend. As sad as I am to say it, we’re dying and no one isn’t doing anything.. except watch
Izaak Murillo
As a culture or race?
TrueMohax both
Did anyone actually think Thanksgiving had happy origins? Its the same as anywhere in the world, there are conquerers and there are victims. The victors make the history and the holidays.
Thanks giving is a day to be greatful
@Megan Todd ye sit is. Dont pay attention to the haters.
Nope not gonna pay reparations or feel bad about things my ancestors did. All we can do is make better choices now.
The issue here is people acting like it didn't happen or trying to silence people speaking up about it
Also you are literally celebrating gemocide
This was 200 years ago I don't care
I don’t know anyone that celebrates the history of thanksgiving. It’s just a day off with your family and traditional foods. Why don’t you calm down.
Who tf wears a costume for Thanksgiving? Also, wtf is a Thanksgiving song?
Valid questions
Thanksgiving plays performed by the younger kids are actually fairly common.
Thanksgiving was a feast between the pilgrims and wampanoags, a cooperation of cultures after which there was 50 years of peace. Thats what we celebrate.
The first diseases weren’t intentional. They came over on explorers ships and they had no clue.
Exactly but leftist use it to smear our history so they can take over
Read what Columbus did and then try to repeat that
@@raykhan7836 but I don't have the book "leftist guide for hating America"
Lew 287 native Americans set up a feast for the English settlers.... they got sick and then pilgrims backstabbed them after the banquet natives Americans made for them..... Happy thanksgiving
@@mossbergshockwave9629 I dont have the book "tribalist guide for being irrational." Either
It's crazy to me there are people this naive in the world TOO much free time on their hands for anyone living on american soil give me one exampe of a safer nation you can reside in and why aren't you there?
Yes the way Thanksgiving is taught in school isn't 100% accurate but you shouldn't feel bad about celebrating Thanksgiving. I have a native American background and me and family celebrate the holiday every year. When we talk about genocide that didn't happen on the first Thanksgiving there actually was a 60 yr peace between the two peoples. The pilgrims had no intentions of stealing land and actually were planning to pay for land. Now as the first generation started to die tensions between the two started to grow as more and more English started to arrive. Yes the holiday does have a dark history but the core of the holiday is good. It's really about family sharing a meal which the best thing family can do. Also it's about two different peoples coming together and breaking bread. Even thought the peace was short it's still a special moment in history.
Then tell your friends to stop shaming people for celebrating there Mayflower ancestors survival because some people did bad things.
@@brittanyhayes1043 not my job.
@@brittanyhayes1043 Everyone has ancestors that did bad things, and every piece of livable land in the world has changed hands involuntarily many times. As if the native tribes didn't fight each other and take land from each other through violent means long before Europeans arrived.
@@lawv804 You are not understanding what I mean. White people through MSM are being shamed for the ancestors sins. They shouldn't have to be shamed. They are doing it through CRT in schools on children as a opressor/oppressed narrative.
@@brittanyhayes1043 Sorry about that. You're right, nobody should be shamed for their ancestors sins. We should all be born with a blank slate in our own lives. I can trace my own ancestry back to Jamestown; they endured tremendous hardship in order to survive, and I would not try to judge then for any of the choices they made.
Hardest thing for Americans... lady we no longer even think about you
My teachers told us the truth even in high school. Thanksgiving is nothing more then a harvest meal to me and its for family and friends. We also look to history in my house.
its better to teach children about thanksgiving than to teach children about the 9000 genders and pronouns.
Frankly when I was young and learned the truth about thanksgiving it was disappointing and I wondered why we celebrated it. But then I just decided to use it as a day of mourning for the indigenous people who died and be thankful for their kindness for helping the pilgrims when they first came to America even though their kindness was never returned and as a day to be thankful for what I have. So when I saw that indigenous people used the day for mourning as well in the video I was kind of happy that I was respecting the day, the way they wanted it to be respected.
The Native American tribes were killing and conquering each other for hundreds of years before the white man showed up.
@@sinatra222 Person A and B are fighting so person C comes and kills both take their land. Even though Native Americans were conquered we still treated them unfairly for so many years and broke thousands of treaties.
@@kingdomross8974 Yes, that is how it works. To the victors go the spoils.
@@sinatra222 keep breaking promises that's America way that's why people don't trust America.
@@kingdomross8974 wat
This is my first year I stopped all this thanksgiving nonsense..... Lord have mercy on me!
Hong Kong will fight-die for even the last remnants of their Founding🇬🇧Colonizers.
Exigent Colonizers Hong Kongers are Chinese, get over it!
@@asli9812
If China refuses Hong Kongs demands the entire FREE WORLD will boycott, divest, sanction, tariff, CCP🇨🇳PLA off the face of the Earth.
@@asli9812woah dude you hate freedom. Also that's false. Hong Kong is Britain's which does not make it apart of china.
@@asli9812 and if you're like oh no its next to china does that make every country in Europe owned by russia cause they are all next to it.
Hong Kong was a part of China. Britain took it by force. It is now a part of China again. Get over it.
Somebody called the wambulance. Happy Thanksgiving!
Once i learned about tnxgivin i stopped celebrating it. I just take it as another regular day
@Kake The Sailor no cant ima take as a normal day simple ir u dont that's ok bc thats what u have learned
Thanksgiving woo! USA USA USA! CMON JOIN ME!
*sigh* I don't know what you "learned" but its all wrong. Thanksgiving was a European tradition brought over to the New World, and "The First Thanksgiving" was a real event documented by Edward Winslow and William Bradford (it's a bit of a misnomer but still).
Why?
Because the real truth was hidden from the history books.
thanksgiving is the day to be thankful, regardless of its perceived origin. lets use the day to celebrate our family, and the ancient ancestors of this land.
It's hard to celibate on a day that marks colonization and steeling land away
Perceived orgin?
rlly like the idea of observing a national day of mourning instead of “thanksgiving”
Angry people cannot be thankful people, but they can also be sad people.
@@robertdouglas8895 ive been angry and thank ful many times. More than one emotion can happen at once my dude
@@Rose1312afa Keep working on your forgiveness and it will come to peace.
@@robertdouglas8895 what?
Does any one celebrate thanks giving with these things in mind? I think not.
eaglesclaws8 elementary schools do
Yeah I'm pretty sure nobody celebrates Thanksgiving thinking of genocide. Whatever its origins are, it has a different meaning now.
Welcome to america!!! Pass the stuffing
And it tells everyone to not celebrate these worldly days in the Bible yet ppl still do them. This video is the reason why. And ppl say that they feel obligated to family is understandable, but what if GOD asked you faced to face why did you celebrate thanksgiving when I told you not too,,,what will you say to him?
Smart lady, taught me lots
That's a reason why I don't really like Thanksgiving
After thanksgiving there were 50 years of peace
Where?
With a group of pilgrims and native Americans
Let’s all just be Thankful that we are not starving.
I don’t want to participate in thanksgiving anymore. I know I’ll receive lash back from my family, but I’ve always hated the truth of it. Time to step out of it
@Johnny Sevenfold so you don't dinner with your parents because some genocide happened hundreds of years ago. This makes perfect sense
there is nothing quite like the combination of monotheism and greed for generating
death and destruction
It is the same in all countries the whites just walked into and took like Australia where I am.I am white and sometimes it's very embarrassing what our forefathers did with no regret apparently.!!!!..my thoughts.👍👍
So you're saying immigration is bad?
The Actual meaning of thanksgiving is to remember that we can all come together, like the pilgrims and native Americans did, regardless of background and past. Sure atrocities have been committed, but that’s not what this day was MEANT to represent.
@@unclelester9701 Spaniards did worse and basically eradicated a civilization and culture more than America's Natives. Authentic "mayan" traditions and language pretty much dead. Mexican traditional stuff like the regional dances and music are all derivative of Spanish stuff. 🤷🏽♀️
celeste_magix the Spaniard cut the population of 50 million to to 25 million
Catherine Arnpriester what about the Spanish, are you saying that they never wrote the requerimento so they had an excuse to enslave natives in the americas
@Se Ou did the Japanese do that but on a bigger scale. Oh wait yeah they did but like 3 times more and more gruesome to but I dont see anyone talking about that do i?
I think it's unfair on the sons to bear the sins of their fathers. As an Indian(the ones Europe was actually fishing around for), I don't feel any animosity towards the Brits of today, save for the racist bad apples among them, every group has those. And even if someone walked up to me and puts it the way this woman did, offering reparations, it's kind of....demeaning frankly. People in need deserve to be helped, but not to ease your guilt over ancient history, but just because they're in need. It can be the Native American tribe being strongarmed by the local authorities, or the hobo across the street hoping for a meal. Don't discriminate, it's what got us in this mess.
Must be nice to have a family to spend it with . Past 9 years I've spent it alone.
DruidsCalling same here!
You guys are not alone
Probably the insufferable edge and attention seeking
The amount of ignorant comments in the comment section is disgusting. If you think Thanksgiving is ruined and that this was unnecessary. It's facts facts that were hidden from you and she's telling it don't be mad cuz you were uneducated
OH WAAAAAAA!! THAT WAS HUNDREDS OF YEARS AGO SO SICK OF WHINERS WHO RUIN EVERYTHING
Don't worry. The world will know soon who the land of the United States belong to. I just hope people are ready to accept it. To hear truth and to believe what was told is truth are two different actions. I'm telling you world, seek the truth and know it. So when it is revealed, it won't come as a surprise and you'll have enough time to make things right. The worst thing that can happen to any person is to believe in something your whole life, then to be told what you believed was true, turns out to be a lie. Stay safe everyone.
I’m looking for a kid friendly version of this story. It’s important they understand the facts.
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This is perfectly kid friendly.
What part is not kid friendly? People teach their kids to believe in a zombie carpenter or they will burn forever.... why can't you teach them their country is built at the expense of an indigenous population that was displaced?
Unless you mean something that will keep a young child's attention, in which case I may agree with you...
That's just candy coating authentic history and just as bad as "And the Natives taught the pilgrims how to grow corn :)"
Beating around the bush is also highly American.
That's disturbing. Sad history
99.9% have no idea why we celebrate this holiday. I don't really blame them because I know a lot of them see it as a "get together" holiday and it works. But they don't know the history. Families get together and have a meal and converse, etc. But they really can't answer the why we have this holiday. Since I know what happened, I don't see it this way. I feel a bit depressed when it does come around. Thanksgiving and Colombus Day are ridiculous holidays we celebrate. They really should reconsider changing these holidays to something else...perhaps mourning.
im grateful for the good ole USA and so should all of you and we should protect her.i enjoy celebrating thanksgiving but there are always these people who try to be downers on everything and make us feel bad over stuff that happened over 500 years ago and i dont
Just because you aren't affected doesn't make it right.
Well I need to ask, what’s wrong with thanksgiving as a holiday? I don’t think the video went into detail about that.
Nothing wrong with Thanksgiving. Just butt hurt people who can't take history or try to use a different part of history to upsurp its meaning. 1621 Thanksgiving happened. This lady and other MSM outlests are focusing in the 1637 massacre of the Parqout people. We are not celebrating that day. People just focus on trying to destroy a holiday that means alot to most people in the Unite States and in other countries.
I get it but it's the same during Halloween.
halloween is worse, but why do I not care? because this was CENTURIES AGO
The main and only fact is there is NO reason to bring suffering and cruelty to the birds
Haha
I love that! What can you give within your means!
We were at peace at one point. That's the part we are celebrating.
Still celebrating thanksgiving Turkey anyone 🦃
And may you all have a happy Thanksgiving
Thankya
When we see how history has taught us from history its self then we all will be comfortable with the truth tusli 2020
Does Canada have a similar story to their Thanksgiving?
Lmao (sorry for laughing) yes yes yeeees they do, and a history that follows to match, look up mass Graves at "residential schools" and then look up what residential school are, then let it set in that the last one closed in 1996...to give just one creepy quote from a proponent of the schools "kill the Indian to save the man"
As far as I know, no, not specific to Thanksgiving, but yes, Canada has a similarly long and ongoing history of colonization, stealing land, and genocide towards Indigenous people. Canadian Thanksgiving is a separate holiday from American Thanksgiving with a different origin. Canadian Thanksgiving was celebrated before the American pilgrims ever made it to the Americas and it was more closely linked to harvest festivals that were celebrated in Europe. That said, Canada still has a terrible history of treating Indigenous people unbelievably badly and we can continue to see this today in the lack of clean drinking water on many reserves, the inadequate healthcare options and food insecurity for those in northern and remote communities, the general racism in society, the effects of generational trauma, etc.
@@LH-xd8rw did you know that indigenous people have a history of treating indigenous people poorly?
@@jeremysmith9694 do you understand that territorial disputes amoung native nations is entirely different than a settler colonial genocide.... or your missing the point on purpose 👍 ok
@@chenzomutumbo9140 semantics
coexistence is always an opportunity for enemies to stab us in the back.
Amen.
I already thought that thanksgiving was a day of thanking God for everything and celebrating with a huge feast
Very well put and to the point!
Angry people cannot be thankful people. .
I know what I learned in school was what they wanted me to know and not to know.
That goes for the government, media, and churches.
No, you have no clue. Much bad has been done, throughout history. When you examine other cultures, in Europe, Asia, and the Middle and Far East, you'll quickly discover that, despite early American actions, they were in no way equal to what happened elsewhere. Yes, they were wrong, but that was long ago, so get over it. If you can't, you have issues.
Nice equivocation. Ever have a RATIONAL thought? What a shame.
I agree! I have native blood proven through 23 and me. However, every nation in the world has the right. This is a defeated nation and it the only not one those that were stolen. Consider Africa and Israel. It was defeated. A part of history.
I personally celebrate thanksgiving by giving thanks to God for what we have and we all know what really happen but its not gonna stop me from spending time with my family which its what really matters now about this holiday.
Keep being blind
Sure, I agree that things weren't so wonderful with the colonists. I disagree, people that haven't perpetrated the offenses you speak of, shouldn't pay reparations. None of us have a choice about where we are born. We shouldn't be held accountable for what we haven't done. We are not guilty of the transgressions that our fathers have committed.
Some people sure like taking a good family holiday and ruining it. I have a family that I love and we look forward to getting together once a year to enjoy a fabulous turkey dinner 😋
y'all just brainwashed
@@kingkeyon-lo2oi Not brain washed 🙄 I have a family who loves me dearly and likes my cooking and wants to spend time with me. I don't think the OP, or y6iu, can say the same 🤔