The hidden agenda in the 2024 Finance Bill || Ed Thiong'o

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  • Ed Thiong'o is an experienced Tax lawyer and Startup analyst with a tested track record of supporting Businesses in corporate strategy and tax advisory.Skilled in international tax law and experience in Start up modeling, structuring and fundraising.
    Deep experience in the business ideation and modeling having spearheaded the development of financial forecasts, term sheets and SAFE documentation for numerous startups across Africa. Served as a board member in an innovation lab whose primary objective is to provide funding for startups by unlocking diaspora remittances across the globe.
    Strong academic grounding with a Masters in business administration, LLB degree, certification as a professional mediator, post graduate diploma in law and a certification in international tax from IBFD as well as licensing to practice as a Tax agent.
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  • @joekangethe376
    @joekangethe376 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +43

    This is the type of content that people need to consume. Education information and entertaining all in one..I just grew 3000 new brain cells

  • @stephenkwai
    @stephenkwai 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +49

    Ed, I like how you articulate everything, I am from Tanzania, I support you Citizens of Kenya.

  • @walternyabaro6602
    @walternyabaro6602 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +25

    We have brilliant people in this country but we end up choosing fools

    • @lionelochola9369
      @lionelochola9369 20 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      The sad reality 😂😂

    • @sheilamarangu
      @sheilamarangu 10 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Imagine

    • @TobiasMasinde-ok4wy
      @TobiasMasinde-ok4wy 8 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Because of tribalism and unnecessary hate towards each other.

  • @danielmacharia1349
    @danielmacharia1349 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

    We need people like you in leadership

  • @alexyegon2381
    @alexyegon2381 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +15

    The most important thing is accountability. That's why protests are gaining ground.

  • @hopememba836
    @hopememba836 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Weeh leo nimeelewa vitu kweli. As a Gen Z I am ashamed I didn't seek out this information sooner. Thank you Dr. Kingori and Mr. Ed Thiong'o

  • @chatiaebwoyele
    @chatiaebwoyele 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +23

    This is the first sober conversation I have had. The guest was impartial and educative. As Kenyans, we need to get to understand the whole budgeting process. All punitive suggestions begin somewhere and that is where we should hold our MPs accountable before the budget estimates metamorphosize into the politically voted and motivated financial bills.

  • @mikejohn2195
    @mikejohn2195 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    Why can’t we have people like Ed Thiongo for president

    • @kaymwadime
      @kaymwadime 22 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Why are we so addicted with the presidency?

  • @alexkibe4179
    @alexkibe4179 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +14

    Very sober to acknowledge that there is a bigger thing to look for. We started loosing it when we ddnt question the 4 trillion expenditure

  • @kaldennis2772
    @kaldennis2772 19 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +3

    Love the conversation. Urge people we have access to information learn how to use to our benefit and let's act out of being informed "not opinions but facts". Kenya is ours and sweet home. Lets work to make kenya work and always know our "morality" plays a big role to success of kenya

  • @petermacharia8952
    @petermacharia8952 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +50

    This guy is telling us that we're screwed for life, just doing it in a very nice and professional way😹😹

    • @denncross9373
      @denncross9373 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      he is telling us to go to the streets and do away with a akina sudi

    • @anitabell4203
      @anitabell4203 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Just like Congo (literally the richest country on Earth in terms of resources) and the rest of Franco countries are fucked for life by France and the EU, UN, UNHCR. I wish Gen Z would know that Ruto is fucked up just like his predecessors. They should continue with the energy but just direct it to the right problem.

  • @dominicmulinda
    @dominicmulinda 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    Well spoken Ed! Kudos for breaking it down in a very logical way.
    Key takeaway…Our way out of this situation is fixing our balance of trade…Not over-engineering our debt headroom

  • @RichardKusiima
    @RichardKusiima 12 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +3

    Here is Africa's problem - We seem to have ignorant people in Authority, people without leadership sitting in decision making spaces and bringing heavy consequences on generations to come!!!!! Just because one is in a position of authority doesn't make you a leader. Leaders are backed by knowledge and wisdom and never by positions of authority. Presidents should listen to the true leaders on the continent. This gentleman is a leader in this space!

  • @victorosong132
    @victorosong132 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +14

    Thank you for opening our eyes on how the government collects money from us.
    He makes David Ndii look like a kindergarten kid.

  • @tomwaweru5292
    @tomwaweru5292 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

    Nice and very educative conversation. Shout to Edwin Githinji he was my classmate and football team mate back in high school. A very talented guy!

  • @byro2545
    @byro2545 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Thank you for this discussion

  • @evekombe3009
    @evekombe3009 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    I'm enlightened so I can teach the illiterate, I long to hear you from you again , more grace sir 🙏

  • @KateOwino
    @KateOwino 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    "The population that is affected is larger than the population that doesn't care, and unfortunately this population has no one else to pass it forward to." Of harsh realities. #RejectFinanceBill2024
    What an insightful conversation - thank you!

  • @josephnjoroge5557
    @josephnjoroge5557 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    This is the brain the government must hire to help in terms of economic progress.

    • @gladysgatotho7217
      @gladysgatotho7217 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Such brainy people are in these government institutions. But they are mere employees who have to follow orders from politicians. They have no voice or else they are out of a job.

  • @donaldmwenesi4964
    @donaldmwenesi4964 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    This was one very mature and informative convo, thanks for enlighting the masses.

  • @derickmutugi8238
    @derickmutugi8238 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    THE WAY TO GO Dr. #REJECTFINANCEBILL2024 #OCCUPYSTATEHOUSE

  • @originalsp
    @originalsp 12 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    I'm just so glad that I can view this show more often

  • @briankimotho5622
    @briankimotho5622 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Please bring him back again for the Third Time. Make it consecutive if possible.
    Many thanks

  • @chatiaebwoyele9859
    @chatiaebwoyele9859 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

    Find us a Man called Rutendo Matinyarare to talk to us about about African economies

  • @nevillebuyala709
    @nevillebuyala709 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    Wonderful video. Seeing those two men speak with such clarity shows what we're doing right

  • @BrianOginga
    @BrianOginga 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Politics of deep policy analysis is where our country must go. The issue of dumbing down manifestos to infrastructural development alone is very demeaning, especially in the 21st century.

  • @willymark3977
    @willymark3977 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +18

    First one to view 😉... Izo likes meen

  • @tabbynjunge5738
    @tabbynjunge5738 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    I am educated thank you for an insightful conversation.

  • @cleboo1868
    @cleboo1868 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Very insightful knowledge ...thank you Dr Kingori /Ed Thiong'o for this.

  • @KevinOnchwatiOmbui
    @KevinOnchwatiOmbui 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +13

    Economic prudence, Kenya government they don't have

  • @Timo548
    @Timo548 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

    Public participation should be all over social media,juu i have never seen anyone doing participation

    • @walkingrace3086
      @walkingrace3086 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Exactly... This is where it should have started

  • @aloomike8620
    @aloomike8620 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    It would be nice to include the treasury figures links in the description for follow up

  • @kategitonga6476
    @kategitonga6476 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    Ed , we need to hear you more !!

  • @maxwell_oduma
    @maxwell_oduma 4 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Brilliant presentation on how the global financial system amd governments work.

  • @shery553
    @shery553 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    tuletee Jimmy wanjigi for a longer in depth conversation zaidi ya ile ya ntv

  • @davianoinglesias5030
    @davianoinglesias5030 23 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Great conversation,, I like how Kenyans have immersed themselves into ecomomic policy.

  • @Brown_Records_Entertainment
    @Brown_Records_Entertainment 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Thanks for sharing @Dr.King'ori. as always good content.

  • @WaLatifah
    @WaLatifah 8 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    I have listened to this episode over n over waaaooooh what a nice n educative n knowledgeable episode,,(,open our eyes 👀👀👀👁️.)

  • @maniapropertiesltd
    @maniapropertiesltd 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Creativity knows no bounds here. Keep pushing the envelope!

  • @transformativelearning2186
    @transformativelearning2186 20 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    I must admit, if nothing else, all Kenyans should concern themselves with understanding the government's fiscal policy. Brilliantly explained Ed! Considering I know not much about the topic.
    Rolling this out to as many as possibly can. Much needed education which gives good starting point to asking pertinent questions.
    You go guys!
    Quick question; is Civic Education a thing in secondary schools?

  • @kisiajuvenalis6796
    @kisiajuvenalis6796 วันที่ผ่านมา

    This was a really informative session. Mr. King'ori, please keep going in this direction. Just wonderful 👍

  • @fjoshore2547
    @fjoshore2547 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Tuko locked listening....venye kunaenda itabidi kila mkenya amechanuka na story ya economy 😎sio kuzuri.unamka saa kumi daily ngware na ngurwe ziko apo juu zinakula pesa zako bila ktoa jasho

  • @swevenseven7
    @swevenseven7 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Now I understand wanataka 2027 kubag ka wameondokea....usiwapee chance wasee io doh usipotufikia gdp itakua chini walai wanadraw from our future manze...na kazi c ndio tunafanya

  • @GathigiaThukuVilmaDaycRojo
    @GathigiaThukuVilmaDaycRojo 4 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Quite informative. We should and must share with others esp other generations for them to get an understanding to our perspective on why Gen Z will continue push until things change for the better and why "make it make sense' is our mantra

  • @dansonkatembo5085
    @dansonkatembo5085 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Very informative 💯 ata King'ori leo hajaleta jokes😂

  • @felixowaga9049
    @felixowaga9049 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    A Master Class👌

  • @jacksonmichael5603
    @jacksonmichael5603 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    I can listen to Ed' all day.....

  • @kikuyujaluo4814
    @kikuyujaluo4814 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Epitome of wisdom nice conversation bossy

  • @phelixokoth6352
    @phelixokoth6352 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Always a pleasure to listen to ED

  • @johnsonkigani
    @johnsonkigani 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    He has explained it so well.

  • @ThiongoWaweru-y7w
    @ThiongoWaweru-y7w 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Thiong'o. Thank you very much for not assuming that we are preternaturally stupid. TWE Asante.

  • @ivonebikehi1584
    @ivonebikehi1584 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

    The only help our Government gives us as citizens for free without Taxation is TEARGAS & COLOURED WATER 😢😢😢😢

    • @sketchbabu
      @sketchbabu 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Nope, the TEARGAS and Coloured Water was bought by the TAXES you paid.

  • @PoliteManKinoti
    @PoliteManKinoti 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    This is Deep and informative...

  • @Money-Easy-Plan
    @Money-Easy-Plan 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    You're a genuine trailblazer! 🌌 _ "The greatest hazard is refusing to take any risks."

  • @perryperismyano7679
    @perryperismyano7679 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    That's very educational.. we need to have more of these conversations.. Thanks

  • @henryomondi6847
    @henryomondi6847 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Wonderful enlightening conversation

  • @briankombich2840
    @briankombich2840 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Ed all day❤

  • @kilshaplay4698
    @kilshaplay4698 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Thank you, this is such an amazing conversation

  • @janicetuzzy280
    @janicetuzzy280 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    If the government had explained our economic crisis like this, we would have understood instead of all that went through during demonstration.
    So whats the solution?
    If this dept we are paying is from the 60s kwani we are paying for being colonised, paying for freedom? 🤔

  • @spicylife3792
    @spicylife3792 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    Eh eh eh. This is articulate and very sobering. This should reach MPs because l think some voted the bill without understanding it.
    Dr. Kingori, you are going far, sky is the start for you. Asking the right questions and your English meeen! Wow...inconsequential😮😮 😂.So that is why bank loans are so expensive 😭😭means that people especially small business or young people cannot do business successfully.
    They cannot borrow nor repay if they do.😮😮 Wow our kids and grand kids are suffering from what was done decades ago. Thank you sir for this. Please let's spread this information spread.

  • @killyjared
    @killyjared 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    @Dr. Kingori ... This is the time we needed the wicked edition the most. But ni sawa tu we still like your delivery

  • @GathoniMutuaM
    @GathoniMutuaM 22 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    I've watched the first 15minutes for 4 hours... Pole pole tuu but damn...hatukua na civic education kaa hii

  • @ndug5302
    @ndug5302 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    This was an insightful interview

  • @brendamutuku404
    @brendamutuku404 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    im fed up...lets wake up...revolution has started

  • @murimi_kamau
    @murimi_kamau 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    This was a very eye opening discussion. Ed has done a good job of breaking down this information into bite sized bits for easier understanding.

  • @gailordalumira32
    @gailordalumira32 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Ed Shukran babaz,

  • @ivonebikehi1584
    @ivonebikehi1584 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    Another feed of teargas and coloured water from the government to common mwananchi who's trying to fight for their rights😢😢😢😢,,,,,kenya is really under Dictatorship rule😢😢

    • @WillisAli
      @WillisAli 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Hakuna dictatorship Kenya, 😅

    • @ivonebikehi1584
      @ivonebikehi1584 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@WillisAli from my view it is but in economical sector😁😁

  • @n.o2164
    @n.o2164 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Unless we deal with corruption no amount of good policies and money will help this country......no government official is talking about austerity before taxing the citizen

  • @ngeresoallan9997
    @ngeresoallan9997 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Brilliance 🎉

  • @DavidNjenga-pg9zz
    @DavidNjenga-pg9zz วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    well funding the judiciary is an option, but that leads to another challenge. In countries like the USA, in some states the police are actually given quotas to meet on tickets they should give out to hit the budget demands since that is one of the major revenue streams, this introduces corruption firstly because the police become very aggressive so you might get charged for crimes you did not even commit. With the track record of our police should they really get more funding?

  • @MuneneMwangi-yl8ug
    @MuneneMwangi-yl8ug 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Very good analysis of educating kenyans

  • @carolinenyokabikuria6081
    @carolinenyokabikuria6081 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Great content we are greatful

  • @adrianteri
    @adrianteri วันที่ผ่านมา

    Hapa iko shida kubwa on speaking about a country's budget and "coffers". Ya kwanza don't think of govt budgets & it's position like that of a household or private company as it's the issuer & not a user of currency. The second it's ever true! A gov't doesn't have stashes/storage of money what they work with is reserves or High-Powered Money(HPM).
    Dr Kingori I hope you'll call me one day to discuss this

  • @FistoMnisi
    @FistoMnisi 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Awesome interview guys ❤🇿🇦

  • @beeteelife
    @beeteelife 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Us borrows but mainly from its people and the the debt with japan, belgium and china is not a balance of trade but treasury bills

  • @jacksonmichael5603
    @jacksonmichael5603 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Hi Ed,
    I've heard you mention the IMF frequently. Does the China Development Bank impose conditions when African countries borrow from it? Do African countries give concessions to China in return?

    • @mrman3363
      @mrman3363 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      There are no free loans my friend. But I don't think china specifies anything, just pay by any means. If you don't then they take the collateral.

  • @MichelleNyaga-mf5vu
    @MichelleNyaga-mf5vu 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    This was a very enlightening interview. The best bit was when he mentioned that beyond the financial estimates..there's the social bit where the current generation will probably limit the no. Of children they get due to the high cost of living that will be there ...limiting the population that pays the loans thereafter and it's such an eye opener

  • @briankimotho5622
    @briankimotho5622 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    1:07:10 This guy is spot on, I actually fact checked this, Am so enlightened right now,
    Thanks Ed.

  • @dennisowen2958
    @dennisowen2958 วันที่ผ่านมา

    wueeeeh guys are wise out here🙌

  • @peterotieno6638
    @peterotieno6638 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The discussions are raising very distressing issues around how our national economic policies are messed up. My question is: what is the way forward?

  • @RichardKusiima
    @RichardKusiima 12 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Ignorance is like a leprosy - If you di not know what the thief is stealing, it doesn't matter whether you catch him or not, you still will never know what he stole or how to recover it!

  • @elijahgakomo2386
    @elijahgakomo2386 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    My wonder is, why has such been missing in mainstream media? Is it deliberate of by chance?

    • @kisiajuvenalis6796
      @kisiajuvenalis6796 วันที่ผ่านมา

      My thoughts exactly. That's a really good question

    • @davianoinglesias5030
      @davianoinglesias5030 23 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Because media is a business and very few Kenyans will sit down for ten minutes to listen to content about economic policy. They want twerking videos

  • @AfrikanMan
    @AfrikanMan 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    This is very good. The sound quality was a little questionable though. Manze angalia hapo.

  • @sallyflavian3368
    @sallyflavian3368 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Wow!

  • @mutxri
    @mutxri 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    LEO NI LEO GUYZ

  • @patmuthoni
    @patmuthoni วันที่ผ่านมา

    I thot we were not supposed to nit be borrowing outside. That we are strapping up to borrow less. Kumbe ni uwongo!

  • @TheMtized
    @TheMtized 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Mainstreaming economic sovereignty conversations like these is critical to get all Kenyans into a focused drive to get control of our economy back. We have what it takes to succeed globally but we must be united in tackling the issues weighing down our economy in the governance space that lead to the silly situation where we find ourselves in a very vicious cycle.

  • @ElizabethMuriungi
    @ElizabethMuriungi วันที่ผ่านมา

    Amazing somebody said incase you have incurred losses make sure the capital isn't touched sustain it always

  • @WaLatifah
    @WaLatifah 8 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    So our problems aren't political but policy wise tuko chini.

  • @RejectFinanceBill24
    @RejectFinanceBill24 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Address the Eco Levy Social Credit score system.

  • @gnturibi
    @gnturibi 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    We know where That 2027 borrowing will go...

  • @CharlesMaina-cr3il
    @CharlesMaina-cr3il 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Wee! Wee! have i been in Kenya really? Do all these fools we placed in the government understand these? We need to wake up and put the right people.

  • @prince_rhythms
    @prince_rhythms 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    kama ni Ed i rush to listen

  • @maggienjenga8617
    @maggienjenga8617 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Wow

  • @elviskinyanjui8386
    @elviskinyanjui8386 10 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    has anyone ever wondered why if you dare touch cdf and the executive,,, the mps tore the line?

  • @KevinOnchwatiOmbui
    @KevinOnchwatiOmbui 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Tax based, non taxbased 😮i dnt know re fines

  • @dennisalbert6115
    @dennisalbert6115 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The main point is prudence

  • @yangu10
    @yangu10 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Do you mean banks do not follow prudential guidelines when lending depositors money?

  • @emarkjacobs
    @emarkjacobs 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    how countries have wise men like this and end up with fools like ruto and parliament?

  • @TheKinoti
    @TheKinoti 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    We have executive, legislature, and Judiciary proposing the budget then the Judiciary alone debates it. Should we have another body debate the proposal or remove them from the tabling a budget proposal?