For anyone that hasn't played this project yet, you can download our v2.1 Trial demo here! gamebanana.com/mods/475497 To support MSA2's development (custom OSTs cost you know!), we have a Patreon over here! www.patreon.com/MentorDex/membership Modern SA2: The Trial v3's official release is after community voting for Sonic Hacking Contest 2024 has closed! The SHC build is more of a soft launch due to a lack of time to add the rest of Rouge's animations and some polish in a few stages. If you wanna play the real version of this update, please bear some patience with us. It'll be hella worth it : )
If Sonic fans ever do something like this for Sonic Adventure, Heroes, or even Shadow The Hedgehog (which I'm a rare percentage that would play that) we won't even need to pester Sega for "Remakes". Especially when said remakes would most likely not be in-engine the way this is. It's literally just a glorified facelift that's extremely faithful. Edit: The Adventure Era fully remade including Sonic P-06 is quite surreal.
@@JPstudios.official I may check that Adventure mod out bc I'm quite out of touch with SA1's scene. Though with Sonic Heroes/Shadow The Hedgehog, I played those often on Dolphin at 4K so I know where you're coming from there. Making Shadow's game actually more fun, and encouraging people to play it to completion would be a miracle. That game has untapped potential just like Secret Rings did. Though that comparison isn't so direct due to their stark set of problems
As someone who has been very critical of this mod in the past, just because I just love vanilla SA2 so much, I can say this update has FINALLY helped me see the vision and I’m genuinely excited to try it out! Great work you guys!
I don't think I've ever seen a Sonic game, fanmade or official, with such gorgeous and expressive animation. You outdo yourself with each update and I'm so happy to follow this project.
This looks amazing, and the editing before the gameplay was playful and fun. The new animation sets look striking, and much better than recent Sonic games. 9:19 The hair flow is a touch of realism that's really fitting for SA2, considering the amount of different locations/climates the cast goes to. It's likely a cold, windy night during Radical Highway, so great implementation there. Subtle but understated.
Aye I appreciate that, thank you! That means a lot to me. Especially as you were one of the first 200 viewers of the video, so I have a lot more confidence in this format!
You know I had an idea in this (HEAR ME OUT) Roblox game called pyrite adventure 2 they make emerald shards glow a bit to avoid the problem of the shards being right next to you but you cant see them. I love this change because instead of staring at the Radar part of finding them is looking for that noticeable green glow around an object or enemy. Why not implement that
Ayt so we can’t add a glow, BUT Hoppy just saw your comment and made the emerald shards more visible! They now sport a brighter texture and have different lighting for higher visibility! Many thanks for your suggestion!
Seeing 10:12 made my eyes widen as I remember the countless attempts where I tried to either get on or jump over that area as a kid. The mod looks great btw!
I love this. I think that once you update the stage textures, models, and enemies down the road, you should get some people to reanimate the cutscenes. However, I’d say that you need to keep the in-game voices as the original then for consistency. This project is incredible though. Finally a great remaster is on the way!
i really like how sonic's running animation feels sorta like a blend of modern sonic and sa2 sonic. the modern games made sonic's running animation feel too smooth for my liking, like he was weightless or something, i always liked how sonic sorta moves up and down at full speed in sa2, like he had some weight to his movement. the way it looks here has that same general feel of boost sonic, but it still looks like he has said weight to him, very well done
A FULL tutorial on how to play this for people with ZERO knowledge on modding would be amazing, THIS is THE mod that’s going to get me into modded SA2 but there’s just so much that links to other stuff- an all in one tutorial would be absolutely fantastic
If you pause here at 3:21 and slow it down you can see she got a different suit design, Still has the classic gloves and boots but the body suit has a sort of Prime-esque design with the Magenta top.
It's such a peak bro, like fr. The models are so perfect, they just look like teenagers, slightly higher than in SA1 but still really cool. The only thing I need in life is support for cutscenes, fuck reanimating, it's worthless and waste of time, just make these models work with existing files and it will be THE definitive way to play this game.
There will never be a better looking model than SA2 OG character models. All they need is smooth edges. I hate the way modern Sonic games made them look dorky and baby like.
this is probably why SEGA doesn't really do remasters or remake of there older sonic games since they know the community will make it for them and will have fun seeing how it looks in the end. can't wait for the mod to be complete this looks great.
Like, this is REALLY good and cool, but I have one massive criticism. That truck engine does not sound good..! It sounds like a drag racer kicking into high gear and going down a 2 mile strip. Gotta' get the BIG TRUCK ENGINE.
This is amazing great graphics cool level geometry and people have to stop complaning about the sound design its great it seriously if this is compatible with full story mod and expert mod this would seriously be a dream game. This game is literally skyrim flaeed to the 9th circle of hell and back
ah okay, went to try the chao garden and the game crashed XD. Then I saw this drop, I look forward to playing with the chao's again as it's mostly the only reason I play SA2
Honest to God is there a chance you make a version without the different music m voice acting? Don't like it at all. Also for the car section wouldn't it have been better to use the tsr designs? And last but must important thoughts on using rtx remix when everything else is done to make the game look actually next gen? Don't get me wrong your work here looks good just very obviously limited by the engine rtx remix could fix that and make it look like it was made with ue5 if you wanted. A lot of work to pull that off but doable.
Will you ever make the Dreamcast Chao Gardens compatible? I like what you've done with them in this build, but it feels empty without the extra scenery
The Dreamcast version layout of the Hero & Dark Gardens (since the neutral one is basically the same as in sa2b) with this amount of polish & high quality would be CRAZY omg i REALLY hope they add in optional different versions for the gardens so that we can still have the modernized high quality without having to lose the Dark Garden cave & the little Hero Garden bridge 🥺👉🏽👈🏽💙💛❤💖💞
The Hero Garden has a DC variant that’s almost done, so rest assured this WILL be happening! For the final release of the mod, this will be an option you can toggle in the mod’s configuration!
The models and animations are tied with code due to how we have to load common animations, which means you can’t play without them until we have it fully sorted out
This was already answered in the FaQ. The answer is that only things retaining to gameplay will be changed. So no new models/animations for the cutscenes. But from previous releases of this mod (namely v5), we may get some changes to the cutscenes in form of texture edits and music changes. I doubt we'll get a redub for the entire game, but if we do get one, I hope that they mostly use the japanese script with some of the dub's more iconic lines (a nice mix of both worlds)
@@noone5454 I think so too, but when this mod is officially done it's going to be so weird to hear the 4kids cast on gameplay and the original voice actors from the Dreamcast era in the cutscenes 😅
so do texture packs work with modern sa2 because there’s this really cool texture pack called ultimate sa2 two which gives the all the games levels a more cinematic look
For anyone that hasn't played this project yet, you can download our v2.1 Trial demo here! gamebanana.com/mods/475497
To support MSA2's development (custom OSTs cost you know!), we have a Patreon over here! www.patreon.com/MentorDex/membership
Modern SA2: The Trial v3's official release is after community voting for Sonic Hacking Contest 2024 has closed! The SHC build is more of a soft launch due to a lack of time to add the rest of Rouge's animations and some polish in a few stages. If you wanna play the real version of this update, please bear some patience with us. It'll be hella worth it : )
@@TheeMentorDex will you post another video when the full v3 release is out?
You bet I will!
Wheres the hill and cave in the dark garden like in the DC version
If Sonic fans ever do something like this for Sonic Adventure, Heroes, or even Shadow The Hedgehog (which I'm a rare percentage that would play that) we won't even need to pester Sega for "Remakes". Especially when said remakes would most likely not be in-engine the way this is. It's literally just a glorified facelift that's extremely faithful.
Edit: The Adventure Era fully remade including Sonic P-06 is quite surreal.
Well Adventure 1 has PKR'S Dreamcast Mod installer, but for Heroes and Shadow I only play them on Dolphin with 4k enhancements
@@JPstudios.official I may check that Adventure mod out bc I'm quite out of touch with SA1's scene. Though with Sonic Heroes/Shadow The Hedgehog, I played those often on Dolphin at 4K so I know where you're coming from there. Making Shadow's game actually more fun, and encouraging people to play it to completion would be a miracle. That game has untapped potential just like Secret Rings did. Though that comparison isn't so direct due to their stark set of problems
@@moonsets-on_you Agree 👍
There's Shadow the Hedgehog Reloaded, and Sonic Heroes is being rumored still.
@@CybertronHallOfRecords Thanks for pointing me towards Reloaded. It looks promising. Especially with the beat the game 3x = Last Way modififcation
As someone who has been very critical of this mod in the past, just because I just love vanilla SA2 so much, I can say this update has FINALLY helped me see the vision and I’m genuinely excited to try it out! Great work you guys!
Yeah the improvements seem really good and helped me appreciate the overall project more! Keep up the good work, peeps.
I don't think I've ever seen a Sonic game, fanmade or official, with such gorgeous and expressive animation. You outdo yourself with each update and I'm so happy to follow this project.
Yoooo this is sick. Love that y'all have kept working on this even after so long!
This looks amazing, and the editing before the gameplay was playful and fun. The new animation sets look striking, and much better than recent Sonic games. 9:19 The hair flow is a touch of realism that's really fitting for SA2, considering the amount of different locations/climates the cast goes to. It's likely a cold, windy night during Radical Highway, so great implementation there. Subtle but understated.
Aye I appreciate that, thank you! That means a lot to me. Especially as you were one of the first 200 viewers of the video, so I have a lot more confidence in this format!
The lords work continues
Sonic's model never looked so GOOD! Cmon SEGA what are ya'll doing?!
You know I had an idea in this (HEAR ME OUT) Roblox game called pyrite adventure 2 they make emerald shards glow a bit to avoid the problem of the shards being right next to you but you cant see them. I love this change because instead of staring at the Radar part of finding them is looking for that noticeable green glow around an object or enemy.
Why not implement that
Ayt so we can’t add a glow, BUT Hoppy just saw your comment and made the emerald shards more visible! They now sport a brighter texture and have different lighting for higher visibility! Many thanks for your suggestion!
Seeing 10:12 made my eyes widen as I remember the countless attempts where I tried to either get on or jump over that area as a kid.
The mod looks great btw!
This looks so crisp
THE MOD IS BAAAAACKKKK!!!!
I love this. I think that once you update the stage textures, models, and enemies down the road, you should get some people to reanimate the cutscenes. However, I’d say that you need to keep the in-game voices as the original then for consistency.
This project is incredible though. Finally a great remaster is on the way!
The new level design is emphatic
If Sonic Adventure 1 and 2 ever did get HD remasters this is how I'd love them to look
He made the water wine in the hero garden.
Jesus
i really like how sonic's running animation feels sorta like a blend of modern sonic and sa2 sonic. the modern games made sonic's running animation feel too smooth for my liking, like he was weightless or something, i always liked how sonic sorta moves up and down at full speed in sa2, like he had some weight to his movement. the way it looks here has that same general feel of boost sonic, but it still looks like he has said weight to him, very well done
This is god tier. My only thing I'd change is I'd lower the volume of Sonic's running sound a bit if the camera is that far back from him.
City escape is finally a place I wouldn’t mind living in
Bro can you imagine the insurance prices there? 😭😭
@@TheeMentorDex idk maybe gun has it all under control (they did seem pretty confident having a gigantic truck run over everything)
I can’t wait to play it!
this looks incredible
Running in the wall in city escape is so cool
I'm looking forward to seeing the direction this is going. 😉👍🏻
I love the new camera 😍
A FULL tutorial on how to play this for people with ZERO knowledge on modding would be amazing, THIS is THE mod that’s going to get me into modded SA2 but there’s just so much that links to other stuff- an all in one tutorial would be absolutely fantastic
I love Sonic in the M3 GTR
YOOOOOO THIS IS THE CLEANEST SONIC MOD!!! You nailed it to the T!!!
We're finally getting our blessed remake
i love you crazy sonic fans man! i cant wait for this
this is really cool but it looks really dark. maybe tone up the lightning a bit
That cell shading model sold me the hack
Will there be an option for the original voices
Yeah the new Voices kinda suck!
I agree, I don't really like Sonic's voice.
If you pause here at 3:21 and slow it down you can see she got a different suit design, Still has the classic gloves and boots but the body suit has a sort of Prime-esque design with the Magenta top.
Glad you caught that one : )
Honestly, that design is PEAK. Perfect balance of her classic with a spy motif
NOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!! 😭😭😭😭
Uhhh…. I mean… yayyyy!! *Quickly clears internet search history*
@@RaiginAnimator 🤨🤨🤨🤨🤨
Private browsing ain’t gonna save this bruddah 😔
wait so i cant murder eggman as batman... my life is ruined
It's such a peak bro, like fr. The models are so perfect, they just look like teenagers, slightly higher than in SA1 but still really cool. The only thing I need in life is support for cutscenes, fuck reanimating, it's worthless and waste of time, just make these models work with existing files and it will be THE definitive way to play this game.
Bro.. this looks AWESOME!
This is why the Sonic fandom beats all others! 😊
There will never be a better looking model than SA2 OG character models. All they need is smooth edges. I hate the way modern Sonic games made them look dorky and baby like.
is the m3 gtr actually part of the mod
Yuppp!
@@TheeMentorDex niiiiice
Sonic's step sfx are driving me insane PLEASE tune them down for the next release.
ITS BACK FOR MORE🔥🔥🔥🔥
Watching Sonic drive the Most Wanted M3 GTR is the coolest
This looks STUNNING!!
this is probably why SEGA doesn't really do remasters or remake of there older sonic games since they know the community will make it for them and will have fun seeing how it looks in the end. can't wait for the mod to be complete this looks great.
You ever think of using RTX Remix after finishing everything? Could give it that last bit of graphical polish to truly make it look modern
i like the remake a lot tbh and i would love to install it but i dont have the game
Hope this update fixes the game crashing when I play the Rouge or Knuckles levels
Fans do what SEGA doesn't
The Batman arc is over
Like, this is REALLY good and cool, but I have one massive criticism.
That truck engine does not sound good..! It sounds like a drag racer kicking into high gear and going down a 2 mile strip. Gotta' get the BIG TRUCK ENGINE.
The flame ring sounds like the sonic unleashed title slash, wait that one was the base game
I was laughing way to much just watching sonic driving an m3 💀🤣
This is amazing great graphics cool level geometry and people have to stop complaning about the sound design its great it seriously if this is compatible with full story mod and expert mod this would seriously be a dream game.
This game is literally skyrim flaeed to the 9th circle of hell and back
will you support the new skin selector?
When all the character animations and models are complete, yes. If Sora included it now, it’d crash the game 😂
ur honor, i state where is rouge
3:21 Right here, you probably need to pause at the right time
no booba. 😔
ah okay, went to try the chao garden and the game crashed XD. Then I saw this drop, I look forward to playing with the chao's again as it's mostly the only reason I play SA2
most wanted map on sa2 when???
3:25 are we sure that isn't a generation or forces mod but a mod for SA2?
Is this a mod for one of the console versions or the PC port? Also, would love it if the storage for Chao items could be increased. :)
This is for pc port only
Do you plan on increasing the poly count for the chao?
Honest to God is there a chance you make a version without the different music m voice acting? Don't like it at all.
Also for the car section wouldn't it have been better to use the tsr designs?
And last but must important thoughts on using rtx remix when everything else is done to make the game look actually next gen? Don't get me wrong your work here looks good just very obviously limited by the engine rtx remix could fix that and make it look like it was made with ue5 if you wanted. A lot of work to pull that off but doable.
sheeeeeeeeeeeeeesh
Will you ever make the Dreamcast Chao Gardens compatible? I like what you've done with them in this build, but it feels empty without the extra scenery
The Dreamcast version layout of the Hero & Dark Gardens (since the neutral one is basically the same as in sa2b) with this amount of polish & high quality would be CRAZY omg
i REALLY hope they add in optional different versions for the gardens so that we can still have the modernized high quality without having to lose the Dark Garden cave & the little Hero Garden bridge 🥺👉🏽👈🏽💙💛❤💖💞
The Hero Garden has a DC variant that’s almost done, so rest assured this WILL be happening! For the final release of the mod, this will be an option you can toggle in the mod’s configuration!
@@TheeMentorDex Awesome stuff!!!! I can't wait for this to eventually be complete, you're doing good things for this community Dex
Think you could make an option to turn sonic's arms blue and have original voices?
BRO DOES THE SA1 IDLE, AND THIS IS A MOD!?!?!?
6:15 ost?
wheres batman?
Is it gonna be possible to have the different models and textures, but without the new physics and level changes?
For the levels you can just delete the set files
huh-
NOT THE BMW M3 GTR
The music is a little loud and the audio isn't quite clear enough during the commentary segment. It's kinda hard to understand you.
I THOUGHT I WAS TRIPPING WITH THE MUSIC LEVEL 😂 😂
Man i want to play thiss
THANK YOU for nerfing the physics lets freaking gooooo
Does this mod improve any of the cutscenes?
this is not a remake this is just remastered graphics lol
Is there a voice acting audition place? I wanna voice someone :3
Sonic Adventure 3
*When is the full game releasing?*
Did you fix magic hand yet?
can we customize sfx and physics? they’re something things i want and sometimes i want to keep the same.
it looks like sonic just becomes cel shaded in green forest, is that a toggle?
please have toggleable cel shaded sonic he looks awesome
What's rouge look like now?
Can this be played in dolphin or is it pc only?
is there any way to disable the models and physics? i have tried deleting the models (and maked a backup) but it didn't work
The models and animations are tied with code due to how we have to load common animations, which means you can’t play without them until we have it fully sorted out
@@TheeMentorDex ok thanks👍
I hate this strange full jump-ball texture so much idk. Is there any way to delete it?
Question: Are you going to voice cast all the characters and remake the entire game, or you are going to remake action stages only?
This was already answered in the FaQ. The answer is that only things retaining to gameplay will be changed. So no new models/animations for the cutscenes.
But from previous releases of this mod (namely v5), we may get some changes to the cutscenes in form of texture edits and music changes. I doubt we'll get a redub for the entire game, but if we do get one, I hope that they mostly use the japanese script with some of the dub's more iconic lines (a nice mix of both worlds)
@@noone5454 I think so too, but when this mod is officially done it's going to be so weird to hear the 4kids cast on gameplay and the original voice actors from the Dreamcast era in the cutscenes 😅
Bro Stop spoiling us just finished v2
Is it not out yet?
When i go to the link it just sends me to the 2.1 version
I did mention it’s gonna be out during SHC 😂
@@TheeMentorDex ahh, i'm stupid then information doesn't really go in the brain all the way sry. Thx can't wait to play it
Original console or emulator that we can try it in
The pc version of the game
it just doesnt give that feeling the original does
It’s not really supposed to
This is the most dogshit looking mod
so do texture packs work with modern sa2 because there’s this really cool texture pack called ultimate sa2 two which gives the all the games levels a more cinematic look
Brother, you didn't need to put the explosion in, now I'm not watching the whole video because of it.
LOOOOOOL 😂