2:41 no way im featured :0 great summary of this controversy! i would like to add that there is actually a precedent that supports penalizing yiheng. on sebastian weyer's former 18.84 4x4 WR single, he briefly touched the cube after stopping the timer (visible at full speed) which would have been a +2 at the time. however, the regulations were changed, allowing slight touches to not be penalized, and sebastian's original result (which caused the regulation change) was also not penalized. therefore, the policy is that if a regulation is changed or added due to a certain result, the regulation applies to that result. as the wrc/board statement was released due to yiheng's 0.78, for consistency his WR should also be penalized according to the statement.
There are more examples. Siddhart Shah's clock NR average that was +2ed for a reg that was introduced a year later, and even Ekaterina's original NR 2x2 single that started this precedent.
Thanks for making this to provide the information! This situation is pretty big and I’m glad they are finally going to balance the power in the wca. I have heard some people say that we might need a completely new organization and I really hope it doesn’t come down to that and hopefully this will all resolve soon.
*I would fire the whole WCA board and bring in some competent people. There are many sports that require frame by frame analysis. Basketball, NFL, Track & Field, Horse racing, Baseball, Tennis, etc.. to ensure fairness in the sports. The WCA is trying to go backwards by 30 years.*
To clarify something Nobody wants to impeach board, people are reading the Magna Carta at face value and thinking that is its goal. It is not. The document is solely to invoke the meeting, which needed 5% of voting wca staff (full delegates and committee leaders) in order to pass. This meeting is to discuss ways to prevent board overstepping their boundaries in the future, and make it so the greater wca public has more faith in their decision making. (And to discuss disqualifying 0.78)
I personally think that, regardless of the whole issue with "sliding", the problem here is that the WCA Regulations Committee clearly does not get a say on the topic of the WCA regulations, the one thing they're meant to do
I think i knew about most of what you talked about, but everything was just so disjointed and confusing that having this video that sums everything up is actually really useful, so thanks
just do what they did in cup stacking. make people use the speedstack g5 where they have to start with their thumbs on the timer too. if you add such vague rules its just so complicated to tell if the solve counts or not, at that point whats the point of even recording and uploading your solves?
But you can still slide when putting your thumbs on the timer, because the pads you put your thumbs don't start the timer. It's just a piece of plastic. So you can take your thumbs off of the pad and still slide. The timer only starts when you raise your palms
@@anseldejong behind lol 😂, but nah if we put the timers in front of the cubes before we start, backwards sliding isn’t really an issue. And 4 pad start-2 pad stop timer mods would then not be required at every competition y’know.
Yeah, I think we’re all really frustrated by this situation. However, I’m more towards the side that it’s completely inappropriate to call for the board’s removal. Who the hell is going to do their job? A lot of the people on the forum calling for the removal of the board aren’t well educated on what they even do. A lot of those people likely think they sit around all day and deal with little situations here and there, explaining their eagerness for revolution. Also, my local delegate literally left the WRC in protest, along with many others.
Honestly what ever the board does I hope they don’t do what speed-stacking did. If they do, it could be the downfall of cubing. But I think the board will see the mistakes that have been made and know not to do that.
This seems a problem akin to line calls in tennis. They had to implement new hardware to "fix" faulty line calls and therefore unfair advantages. So either you need a new timer or a new way to implement the existing timers
If sliding gets banned they’re going to have to introduce an additional rule where all solves are recorded because surely the way to get around this sliding rule is to just not record your solves and slide fast enough that it cant be seen by judges?
Whatever the eventual outcome, the current 2x2 records list will need to be archived. 4-pad mode *must* be introduced for a new set of 2x2 records. Anything else would be an untenable farce.
Part of the issue is that 2x2 is such a fast event, to the point that picking up and dropping the puzzle become significant amounts of time. It seems like we need better stackmats/timers and/or need to use AI cubes instead, at least at the top levels. That would be the long term ideal. Also, I know this is a bit unrelated, but you reminded me of this. In Connecticut, there was a chimpanzee named Travis who nearly killed a woman in 2009 - the injuries were devastating. Travis was killed on the scene by a cop. But what's insane is that Travis had caused an issue back in 2003, stopping traffic for several hours. This led to a new law being implemented preventing people from owning primates above a certain weight limit. But what's insane is that they didn't apply that law to the owners of Travis! They made an exception. What on Earth is the point of a new law if you don't even apply it to the people/circumstance which caused its creation in the first place!? It's the same with Yiheng. There's no question that he's really fast. But sliding is illegal and he did it. A lot of his times need to be DNFed as a result. And if it leads to a new precedent, then of course that precedent needs to be applied to him!
To be fair, if you pay Guinness enough money, they'll invent a brand new record category just for you. Their records have been dubious since day one lol
thanks for giving me a fair unbiased look at this, thank you. everyone was saying a lot of bs, and this just cuts the crap and gets to the correct info. thanks :)
I'm seeing a parallel with the recent MTG Commander bans. A small community run organization banned some popular cards, all hell broke loose, and (skipping over a lot) it ultimately led to the rule-making for commander be taken out of the hands of the fans and absorbed by wizards of the coast. Time will tell if this decision will be for the better or if WOTC will make an even bigger mess, but I think the lesson is to push back on the WCA Board, but no so hard it breaks
Fully agree with the WRC and their conclusions. The main takeaway is that the WCA should encourage competitors to better learn the regulations for all roles, in this case especially for judges.
so what exactly is the regulation now because if it is illegal then yiheng's record shouldn't count. if u can't use frame by frame than Hassan's record is pretty obvious that he stopped before he was done whereas yiheng is just sliding but no exactly stopping the timer before he's done when u see it in full speed. I still think its dumb to let it stand but i just wanna see why they did it.
Isn't it obvious that Guinness already recognized 0.78 as WR, and WCA had contract with Guinness (I don't know details) so they can't removed 0.78 anymore. If WCA wants cubing to be recognized as a sport, they can't really delete a Guinness-recognized WR can they?
That's just stupid. This is just like saying that World Athletics(formerly the IAAF), should keep the record of an athlete caught doping just because GWR recognized that record.
The frame by frame analysis regarding the timer display and Yiheng's hand is stupid. Cubers should be aware that displays have a delay. If you don't believe me, do this same analysis when he stops the timer and you will see that the display will still continue for 0.1 sec.
To be fair you didn't mention that the WRC failed to penalise a 0.53 single in 2022 which also broke regs by sliding. And it was the WRC that set the precedent that you can break the regs as long as you can't be seen doing it in real time. So yes, I agree that the board should have gone with the WRC and DNFd the 0.78 average, and I'm happy that the board proposed the change in regs/guidelines. However, the WRC is also partly at fault here because they didn't penalise a previous case of sliding and also did not recommend to change the regs/guidelines before we had a major result involving cheating. Lots of people dropped the ball, but this can be fixed: DNF the 0.78 (and the 2022 case) and move forward with the new rules 👍 Sliding is illegal, and if you do it, you should be DNFd. Here's hoping we can have that result without any bad blood between any of the WCA staff
I mean, sliding is a new tequniqhe, but i think it should be penalized by how much you slide, for example, add a +2 for obvious sliding. cubers will be cautios not to abuse this tequnique
Picking up and putting down times are not solving times and should not be included. The whole way solving times are measured is so outdated, even wrong. AI cubes should be used. Inspection times OTOH are solving times, and should be included. How fast someone can inspect and start on a good solve is material. There should be no inspection, if we want to have true solving times. Saying the world record is 3.13s is not accurate at all. It should be something like 6s (based on Max's times).
Felix also got an oh wr which was a misscramble and a huge drop from the previous wr but nobody seemed to have any problem with it? im showing the hypocrisy of the community not saying that I support yiheng.
6:16 thats me!!! yeah but as a whole i just want this controversy to be over, not looking to impeach the board or anything but this is not good for the community as a whole
you are meant to stick to the rules but sometimes situations arise where it is necessary to break a rule for the betterment of the community and the 0.78 is one of those cases
Yiheng needs to understand that it could be decades before some rules committee will actually remove sliding scores. Especially if there is corruption. The problem is Yiheng will be long retired by that point. If it's like Billy Mitchell? He actually is great at the game but because of the scandal decades later? Everyone just sees him as a fraud. If I was Yiheng and his trainer? I'd be all for removing the sliding scores, while he's young, so he has time to get actual scores over the next 10 years.
It’s actually not that complicated “Should we go back and DNF his solves, even the ones without video” Did any of them break the WR? No? Cool then it doesn’t really make a huge difference to the sport as a whole so just keep them
*WCA: We have examined ourselves and our own policy through the WRC and found no wrongdoing. Never mind the fact that we are being paid (bribed) to try to keep that false record on the books.*
@@EddtheRexMan *I didn't say they're paid, I said they are taking bribes. No reason for them to keep a false WR unless someone has some other agenda.* *As spoken WCA tried to DNFed it by someone overturned their ruling??* *Only a corrupt person would do that.*
in my opinion just bring back sliding it was a loophole that people took advantage of and i think this ban brought more problems and protest than allowing this to happen and 2x2 has come to a point that sliding is the only way for world class solvers to become consistently better eg is already the fastest we can go for a regular human that does not bother memorising 3000 algs
@@danielwusy the problem is that if you're sliding you can start turning before the timer starts so you're not actually measuring the time it takes to solve the cube. Yiheng has solves where the actual solve time is 0.8-0.9 but the timer shows 0.7-0.8.
Citing the goddamn Magna Carta for a WCA dispute is hilarious. Y'all realize laws are bound by time and space, right? Unless the WCA is crowned as King of England, the Magna Carta holds as much power as a piece of toilet paper. There must be some regulation in the WCA rules that promotes transparency and is more applicable in this case.
The "Magna Carta" posted by Lucas Garron isn't literally the same as the 1215 Magna Carta, it's a completely new and separate document. Calling it "Magna Carta" is more of a reference and similarity. He didn't literally pull up the 1215 Magna Carta.
If there's no communication with Yinheng or his team, how can they presume that either he or his team did not know the rules? This is what's keeping the WR validated.
That is definitely not the reason that the WR isn't DNFed. 2t) Each competitor must be familiar with and understand the WCA Regulations before the competition. A7g) At the discretion of the WCA Delegate, an incident or penalty caused by a competitor's inexperience may be replaced with an extra attempt. A7g usually only applies to newcomers though, not somebody who's been to over 50 competitions and has over 2000 official attempts.
@@asdasdsadasfasdasdaf7060 the rule has existed since 2007 actually - the rule he's breaking is that you aren't supposed to touch the cube till the timer has started. it's only the means of catching him (frame by frame analysis) that wasn't used earlier but is being used now.
Yeah DNGing Yihengs .78 seems to me like it should be avoided. Hes only being looked at because he set the WR. Tons of others that wpuldnt get DNFd because theyre not high profile, or dont video tape their solves. And the WRC said it was fine, until pelple protested then recanted, but the WR was done under the assumption it was fine. We shouldnt be punishing people.for doing something that was explicitly stated to be fine. The other issue is the WRC creates, what is essentially legislation for cubing competitions and also trys to enforce them? Theres a pretty clear conflict of interest there.
Conclusion: So technically you can slide , but you have to make it seem less suspicious……
Ig but pls dont silde guys 😭
@@Skcubing Why not? just don't record/post it and you won't get penalized.
2:41 no way im featured :0
great summary of this controversy! i would like to add that there is actually a precedent that supports penalizing yiheng. on sebastian weyer's former 18.84 4x4 WR single, he briefly touched the cube after stopping the timer (visible at full speed) which would have been a +2 at the time. however, the regulations were changed, allowing slight touches to not be penalized, and sebastian's original result (which caused the regulation change) was also not penalized. therefore, the policy is that if a regulation is changed or added due to a certain result, the regulation applies to that result. as the wrc/board statement was released due to yiheng's 0.78, for consistency his WR should also be penalized according to the statement.
@@TetraCubing yeah
There are more examples. Siddhart Shah's clock NR average that was +2ed for a reg that was introduced a year later, and even Ekaterina's original NR 2x2 single that started this precedent.
@@thephysicistcuber175 👍
free hassan
Thanks for making this to provide the information! This situation is pretty big and I’m glad they are finally going to balance the power in the wca. I have heard some people say that we might need a completely new organization and I really hope it doesn’t come down to that and hopefully this will all resolve soon.
*I would fire the whole WCA board and bring in some competent people. There are many sports that require frame by frame analysis. Basketball, NFL, Track & Field, Horse racing, Baseball, Tennis, etc.. to ensure fairness in the sports. The WCA is trying to go backwards by 30 years.*
To clarify something
Nobody wants to impeach board, people are reading the Magna Carta at face value and thinking that is its goal. It is not. The document is solely to invoke the meeting, which needed 5% of voting wca staff (full delegates and committee leaders) in order to pass. This meeting is to discuss ways to prevent board overstepping their boundaries in the future, and make it so the greater wca public has more faith in their decision making.
(And to discuss disqualifying 0.78)
Great video,simple,clear,informative.
Keep it up 🎉
I personally think that, regardless of the whole issue with "sliding", the problem here is that the WCA Regulations Committee clearly does not get a say on the topic of the WCA regulations, the one thing they're meant to do
Thank you for making these vids Sam! These controversies are getting to insane. Also your new upload schedule is so consistent now!
I think i knew about most of what you talked about, but everything was just so disjointed and confusing that having this video that sums everything up is actually really useful, so thanks
just do what they did in cup stacking.
make people use the speedstack g5 where they have to start with their thumbs on the timer too.
if you add such vague rules its just so complicated to tell if the solve counts or not, at that point whats the point of even recording and uploading your solves?
not everyone has g5 timers, some regions can't afford new timers
@@Mootcubes Based on recent financial reports, the wca could most likely provide g5 timers for all regions that need them.
how did cup stacking treat records achieved with the old mats?
But you can still slide when putting your thumbs on the timer, because the pads you put your thumbs don't start the timer. It's just a piece of plastic. So you can take your thumbs off of the pad and still slide. The timer only starts when you raise your palms
@Valyxn they put them in a new category called "legacy results" iirc
What if we just simply put the timer in *front* of the cube now, and start the solve that way?
I think you mean behind lol, and yeah that could work but I still think 4pad starts 2pad stops would be better
@@anseldejong behind lol 😂, but nah if we put the timers in front of the cubes before we start, backwards sliding isn’t really an issue. And 4 pad start-2 pad stop timer mods would then not be required at every competition y’know.
Yeah, I think we’re all really frustrated by this situation. However, I’m more towards the side that it’s completely inappropriate to call for the board’s removal. Who the hell is going to do their job? A lot of the people on the forum calling for the removal of the board aren’t well educated on what they even do. A lot of those people likely think they sit around all day and deal with little situations here and there, explaining their eagerness for revolution. Also, my local delegate literally left the WRC in protest, along with many others.
Great editing, awesome video!
Honestly what ever the board does I hope they don’t do what speed-stacking did. If they do, it could be the downfall of cubing. But I think the board will see the mistakes that have been made and know not to do that.
Great video! Hopefully the right things to do will be done :)
This seems a problem akin to line calls in tennis. They had to implement new hardware to "fix" faulty line calls and therefore unfair advantages.
So either you need a new timer or a new way to implement the existing timers
If sliding gets banned they’re going to have to introduce an additional rule where all solves are recorded because surely the way to get around this sliding rule is to just not record your solves and slide fast enough that it cant be seen by judges?
Is he using slide on 3x3 too?
How did you get the cool time layout? 😮
Whatever the eventual outcome, the current 2x2 records list will need to be archived. 4-pad mode *must* be introduced for a new set of 2x2 records. Anything else would be an untenable farce.
Part of the issue is that 2x2 is such a fast event, to the point that picking up and dropping the puzzle become significant amounts of time. It seems like we need better stackmats/timers and/or need to use AI cubes instead, at least at the top levels. That would be the long term ideal.
Also, I know this is a bit unrelated, but you reminded me of this. In Connecticut, there was a chimpanzee named Travis who nearly killed a woman in 2009 - the injuries were devastating. Travis was killed on the scene by a cop. But what's insane is that Travis had caused an issue back in 2003, stopping traffic for several hours. This led to a new law being implemented preventing people from owning primates above a certain weight limit. But what's insane is that they didn't apply that law to the owners of Travis! They made an exception.
What on Earth is the point of a new law if you don't even apply it to the people/circumstance which caused its creation in the first place!? It's the same with Yiheng. There's no question that he's really fast. But sliding is illegal and he did it. A lot of his times need to be DNFed as a result. And if it leads to a new precedent, then of course that precedent needs to be applied to him!
TF is an ai cube?
@@CommercialSwine Like, an electronic one which can detect the moves you make, time your solves, etc. A new 2x2 one came out recently.
@@Gretchaninov That's literally just a smart cube. What part of that is ai?
@@CommercialSwine I'm not distinguishing between the two. I've heard it be called an AI cube - call it what you want.
Someone will found some holes in the hardware of the cubes as well as in their soft.
How to join the cubers' fb group bro
Always i feel left out
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Early to a new cube master video
Not related to video. In your opinion what 3x3 turns the fastest overall? Its for a vid idea i have.
Another fun note to add is that GWR officially recognizes Yihengs 0.78 average. So who knows how this will conclude.
To be fair, if you pay Guinness enough money, they'll invent a brand new record category just for you. Their records have been dubious since day one lol
@@EddtheRexMan well, they did remove Billy Mitchells and Todd Rodger’s records after being declared cheated/unachievable.
@@dirp_dcb9531 it did take them decades though, and this is a much lower profile case than that. Unless we start getting lawsuits, god forbid 💀
what is the board?
thanks for giving me a fair unbiased look at this, thank you. everyone was saying a lot of bs, and this just cuts the crap and gets to the correct info. thanks :)
Why can’t we just legalize sliding? If everybody can do it then it’s technically legal.
I think its better to just put the record and specify which timer generation is being used
WCA could still even split due to this, it's pretty touch and go situation for a while.
what sq1 do you use? Thank you
Nice! How did you make the thumbnail?
He used to work for Mr Beast.
@@cubingcubez6678 That would explain many things...
So.. did hassan get freed?
I have an idea: JUST REMOVE 2X2
I have an idea dont do that
@@elyes-nicegaming1860 why?
@@jackvalduga82269 because 2x2 is fun
I'm seeing a parallel with the recent MTG Commander bans. A small community run organization banned some popular cards, all hell broke loose, and (skipping over a lot) it ultimately led to the rule-making for commander be taken out of the hands of the fans and absorbed by wizards of the coast. Time will tell if this decision will be for the better or if WOTC will make an even bigger mess, but I think the lesson is to push back on the WCA Board, but no so hard it breaks
Can you explain me what is the difference between WRC and WCA Board ( i am a bit confused)
WCA Board are the “leaders” of the WCA, the WRC are the people who deal with the regulations.
@@ThatCubeKidd oh thanks
bruh we got the magna carta back in 2024 before gta 6😭🙏
Fully agree with the WRC and their conclusions. The main takeaway is that the WCA should encourage competitors to better learn the regulations for all roles, in this case especially for judges.
1:35 I stand by that statement. Game is game 🛝
WCA: do as I say, not as I do.
so what exactly is the regulation now because if it is illegal then yiheng's record shouldn't count. if u can't use frame by frame than Hassan's record is pretty obvious that he stopped before he was done whereas yiheng is just sliding but no exactly stopping the timer before he's done when u see it in full speed. I still think its dumb to let it stand but i just wanna see why they did it.
In the future you should only use the Gen 5 timer in 4 pad mode.
Isn't it obvious that Guinness already recognized 0.78 as WR, and WCA had contract with Guinness (I don't know details) so they can't removed 0.78 anymore. If WCA wants cubing to be recognized as a sport, they can't really delete a Guinness-recognized WR can they?
That's just stupid. This is just like saying that World Athletics(formerly the IAAF), should keep the record of an athlete caught doping just because GWR recognized that record.
What if all world record attempts must be recorded
We got Speedcube Revolution before GTA6
Why doesn't somebody build a cube so that the timer starts as soon as the cube is touched or picked up, rather than as soon as the hands leave the pad
Exactly! I think 2x2 especially has come to a point where stuff like this is necessary because of how faste these solves are getting
@@pinklemonade65972x2 at the highest level is reliant on luck based low turn solves based on lucky scrambles
why are your videos so quiet? i can barely hear what you are saying
Not really. Probably your phones problem
I can hear it fine
Your volume is too low, it’s completely fine for me
But cubeing is not the only sport that have a record thats done with a teknik thats illegal today, longjump have the same issue
Doing a solve with your wrists on the timer for over a second isn't sliding - it's cheating.
Someone got a 0.5? none- sliding AO5
The frame by frame analysis regarding the timer display and Yiheng's hand is stupid. Cubers should be aware that displays have a delay. If you don't believe me, do this same analysis when he stops the timer and you will see that the display will still continue for 0.1 sec.
To be fair you didn't mention that the WRC failed to penalise a 0.53 single in 2022 which also broke regs by sliding. And it was the WRC that set the precedent that you can break the regs as long as you can't be seen doing it in real time.
So yes, I agree that the board should have gone with the WRC and DNFd the 0.78 average, and I'm happy that the board proposed the change in regs/guidelines. However, the WRC is also partly at fault here because they didn't penalise a previous case of sliding and also did not recommend to change the regs/guidelines before we had a major result involving cheating.
Lots of people dropped the ball, but this can be fixed: DNF the 0.78 (and the 2022 case) and move forward with the new rules 👍
Sliding is illegal, and if you do it, you should be DNFd. Here's hoping we can have that result without any bad blood between any of the WCA staff
we got cubing drama with in wca before gta 6
I mean, sliding is a new tequniqhe, but i think it should be penalized by how much you slide, for example, add a +2 for obvious sliding. cubers will be cautios not to abuse this tequnique
Picking up and putting down times are not solving times and should not be included. The whole way solving times are measured is so outdated, even wrong. AI cubes should be used. Inspection times OTOH are solving times, and should be included. How fast someone can inspect and start on a good solve is material. There should be no inspection, if we want to have true solving times. Saying the world record is 3.13s is not accurate at all. It should be something like 6s (based on Max's times).
Felix also got an oh wr which was a misscramble and a huge drop from the previous wr but nobody seemed to have any problem with it?
im showing the hypocrisy of the community not saying that I support yiheng.
6:16 thats me!!!
yeah but as a whole i just want this controversy to be over, not looking to impeach the board or anything but this is not good for the community as a whole
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you are meant to stick to the rules but sometimes situations arise where it is necessary to break a rule for the betterment of the community and the 0.78 is one of those cases
The one thing this drama taught me is how eager cubers seem to be to hate on a child. Some of y'all were rabid in the comments
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Yiheng is the GOAT!!
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Yiheng needs to understand that it could be decades before some rules committee will actually remove sliding scores. Especially if there is corruption. The problem is Yiheng will be long retired by that point. If it's like Billy Mitchell? He actually is great at the game but because of the scandal decades later? Everyone just sees him as a fraud. If I was Yiheng and his trainer? I'd be all for removing the sliding scores, while he's young, so he has time to get actual scores over the next 10 years.
It’s actually not that complicated
“Should we go back and DNF his solves, even the ones without video”
Did any of them break the WR? No? Cool then it doesn’t really make a huge difference to the sport as a whole so just keep them
This is just a lose-lose situation
*WCA: We have examined ourselves and our own policy through the WRC and found no wrongdoing. Never mind the fact that we are being paid (bribed) to try to keep that false record on the books.*
The board aren't paid. What makes you think they are?
@@EddtheRexMan *I didn't say they're paid, I said they are taking bribes. No reason for them to keep a false WR unless someone has some other agenda.* *As spoken WCA tried to DNFed it by someone overturned their ruling??* *Only a corrupt person would do that.*
in my opinion just bring back sliding it was a loophole that people took advantage of and i think this ban brought more problems and protest than allowing this to happen and 2x2 has come to a point that sliding is the only way for world class solvers to become consistently better eg is already the fastest we can go for a regular human that does not bother memorising 3000 algs
also about the unfair advantage part i think if everyone can do it with training like tps and algs, then i see no unfair advantage
@@danielwusy the problem is that if you're sliding you can start turning before the timer starts so you're not actually measuring the time it takes to solve the cube. Yiheng has solves where the actual solve time is 0.8-0.9 but the timer shows 0.7-0.8.
If you're legalizing sliding then there's no point in forbidding starting with wrists on timer.
Citing the goddamn Magna Carta for a WCA dispute is hilarious. Y'all realize laws are bound by time and space, right? Unless the WCA is crowned as King of England, the Magna Carta holds as much power as a piece of toilet paper. There must be some regulation in the WCA rules that promotes transparency and is more applicable in this case.
The "Magna Carta" posted by Lucas Garron isn't literally the same as the 1215 Magna Carta, it's a completely new and separate document. Calling it "Magna Carta" is more of a reference and similarity. He didn't literally pull up the 1215 Magna Carta.
Im sliding.
If there's no communication with Yinheng or his team, how can they presume that either he or his team did not know the rules? This is what's keeping the WR validated.
How could he possibly know about the rule that not existed?
That is definitely not the reason that the WR isn't DNFed.
2t) Each competitor must be familiar with and understand the WCA Regulations before the competition.
A7g) At the discretion of the WCA Delegate, an incident or penalty caused by a competitor's inexperience may be replaced with an extra attempt.
A7g usually only applies to newcomers though, not somebody who's been to over 50 competitions and has over 2000 official attempts.
@@asdasdsadasfasdasdaf7060 the rule has existed since 2007 actually - the rule he's breaking is that you aren't supposed to touch the cube till the timer has started. it's only the means of catching him (frame by frame analysis) that wasn't used earlier but is being used now.
Yeah DNGing Yihengs .78 seems to me like it should be avoided. Hes only being looked at because he set the WR. Tons of others that wpuldnt get DNFd because theyre not high profile, or dont video tape their solves.
And the WRC said it was fine, until pelple protested then recanted, but the WR was done under the assumption it was fine. We shouldnt be punishing people.for doing something that was explicitly stated to be fine.
The other issue is the WRC creates, what is essentially legislation for cubing competitions and also trys to enforce them? Theres a pretty clear conflict of interest there.
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