I think the real reason Gordon cuts off Barbra from revealing that she is Batgirl is an implication that he does know deep down, but would rather keep it a secret rather than be told officially by her. At least that's the popular theory going around anyway.
That's absolutely what I took away from the episode as well. That's part of the reason I'm forgiving of the "it was all a dream" ending. The other reason is that it isn't just a way to kill 20 minutes in an unmeaningful way. This isn't just a goofy fantasy episode. This is an exploration of a problematic part of Batgirl's situation in this series. For Batman, Robin, Nightwing, and Alfred, everyone who's close to them knows what's really going on. But that's not true for Batgirl. The important thing for her isn't that it happened, but that it COULD happen. That's why they needed to have that talk at the end of the episode. If they'd just ended it with her waking up and everything being fine, this wouldn't be as good of an episode as it is. The fact that it hints at the idea that Gordon suspects what's really going on unofficially is the cherry on top. I thought it was unusual for the viewer to come away from that ending with the belief that Gordon is still clueless.
I'm gonna have to say , Batman Beyond, The return of Joker. What Joker and Harley did to Robin (Tim Drake) is pretty dark and twisted. And then there is The killing Joke, even though they toned down the animated version, the book is hardcore.
Hey Tommy No pickles lol cool name by the way. For me, it’s the Batman episode when Batman is plagued visions of his parents tragic deaths at the hands of Joe Chill. The scene where he runs down an ally way and it becomes a gigantic blood filled gun. Wow, yikes, dark shows back then, but brilliant writing and animation, better made overall than some live action movies and shows. Another disturbing episode was in the sequel show, Batman Beyond, season 2, episode 2. Earth mover, the whole idea of just being buried alive underground alone, is so unsettling alone. The whole story with the business partner, drawn to look like a chubby Bill Clinton lol. The pretty daughter Jackie Maycheck, who sadly never knew her real father, other than being haunted by his ghost in a way. Through the mud Golums, he telepathically creates to see his daughter, wherever she goes. The whole reveal of how he looks 10 years later, whooo jhezzzz, lousie. So eerie, yet so sad of an episode.
New to your channel, loved this video. Easily the strongest episode from the TNBA run in my opinion. I believe Gordon kinda winks at Barbara when he says “all of you” at the end, which could still mean he thinks she’s “modeling” (or whatever the 1998 equivalent was) but I think the implication is that he knows. Then hits her with the “I won’t hear another word on the subject” or similar line, so it SEEMS like Barbara’s come to terms and found peace about keeping that secret? They revisited this kinda scenario in Arkham Knight, with Barbara being revealed as Batgirl/Oracle to a clueless Gordon, and it plays out as well as you’d expect. Bane’s “thought about it…didn’t work for me” line is something I’ve said in my real life because of hearing it on this episode haha. I liked the fight where Batman basically gives up and acknowledges that it doesn’t matter if they fight to the death, really hammers home that Batman has nothing to lose anymore. Subscribed to the channel, I see you’re an action figure guy so if you enjoy stop motion and collecting feel free to have a look at my channel. Excellent video here!
@@TommyNoPickles I'm definitely interested in watching you do a video on it. You've got a level of honesty and realness that most reviewers don't. And man, I'll never forget my first time seeing that episode, it's a very striking memory if you're down to hear it; Also, Nightwing's suit (and the other Bat Family suits) weren't bulletproof until around the 2000's to 2010's when comics became more modernized. Which means that (at the time) if they were being shot at, they'd just have to be crazy good at dodging or just get ventilated.
Man i really do miss this show batman the animated series was so fucking good even though some episodes weren't masterpieces they still were charming and entertaining in their own way 😊
Okay, I came because of the community post by Booze and Boos…I’m a 50 year old woman who has literally never seen even one episode of the Batman cartoon series, but I actually really enjoyed this! Your enthusiasm rivals my husband’s, as he talks about Star Wars! It was nice to be able to put a face to the voice behind one of my favorite glitch in the matrix channels - thanks for entertaining me!😊
@@TommyNoPickles maybe so, I’ve only watched a few episodes of the different series though, so I wouldn’t know. Might be interesting to look into though. 🤔
There were a lot of episodes from the TNBA run of the show that actually had me stunned thinking "they were allowed to show that on Television????" This along with Growing Pains (The Clayface Episode) and the show's adaptation of the Mad Love tie-in Comic genuinely are some of my favorite episodes from any Television show- period
@@TommyNoPickles yea it’s looks really gd I love the new Batman voice and all the villains golden age design they have gentlemen ghost nocturna Harley onomatopoeia fire bug penguin two face clay face can’t wait for august 1 to arrive lol
It's annoying that Jeffrey Combs voiced Scarecrow in the revamp, but in this episode has no dialogue except a couple of grunts and laughing briefly. Also, it's the debut of "Gimp Mask Bane".
No way, that was Jeffrey Combs? How are they going to to get a tv legend to grunt and laugh for a less than 2 minutes a screen time in this episode haha
The most disturbing thing about this episode was if GCPD put 5% of the passion and effort to chase the super villains of Gotham as they did into chasing Batman, they wouldn't need a Batman. Also notice how quickly Gordon blames my boy Bruce for creating the monsters in Arkham when ONE of his adventures ended in a tragedy.
A topic you can cover is possibly the future of DC love action movies and what route or adaption you would like to see come to life on future movies. Also characters that are over looked but have dwwp or terrifying stories like pig face, kiteman or even Harvey Dent from batman, I forget Pig faces actual name but yeah you get my point.
You who were too young to know the clothes rack was an outdoor building tv antenna. Like the one that goes on top, but there was a time that city buildings had lower floors extend a line all the way to the roof to help with the buildings interfering with signal.
It's nice to see Batman the Animated Series still has a huge fan base. Love the video and the thing scarecrow hangs his coat on and batgirl tackles is an old school TV antenna
Great job man! I grew up with the DCAU and I miss it. Batman Beyond is my favorite show but I love The New Batman Superman Adventures. Fantastic memories of The WB and Kids’ WB! I still can’t believe this episode aired on Kids’ WB! and it makes me happy to be a fan from what I consider one of the best years of the network and it’s blocks. Please keep the awesome stuff coming. I got suggested your videos because I loved the DCAU, Kids’ WB! and The WB. Keep up the fantastic work man! Also, is this your favorite episode and if not what is?
Thank you Trekapedia! I also grew up with the DCAU, what a wild episode to air on Kids WB, eh? I think this episode is my fave from TNBA, but when it comes to Batman TAS my favorite episode has to be ‘Almost Got ‘em’.
Great to see you in fine form and enjoying yourself so much, put a big smile on my dial, thanks for the smile generator!👍😃 Keep being the good self you are, ✌️🐸❤️
It's always fun when a video title doesn't have an episode title but it's still obvious what the topic is. Also, that shot of her landing on the hood of her dad's patrol car is one of the greatest shots I've seen in animaion, period.
@@TommyNoPickles As interesting as I think that could be, I think the 'censored version is more impactful (pardon the pun). It's unexpected. When you see them in the car, you don't expect her to land right on it like that.
when you talked about the beard i realized i have been thoroughly conditioned by youtubers to expect a segue into a manscaped ad
Oh my god that’s hilarious. I’ll spare you. For now. 🧔🏻♂️
Ha - me too!!😁
I think the real reason Gordon cuts off Barbra from revealing that she is Batgirl is an implication that he does know deep down, but would rather keep it a secret rather than be told officially by her.
At least that's the popular theory going around anyway.
That is so insightful, I love that
Didn't know it was a popular fan-theory, but that was what I thought when I watched the episode.
That's absolutely what I took away from the episode as well. That's part of the reason I'm forgiving of the "it was all a dream" ending. The other reason is that it isn't just a way to kill 20 minutes in an unmeaningful way. This isn't just a goofy fantasy episode. This is an exploration of a problematic part of Batgirl's situation in this series. For Batman, Robin, Nightwing, and Alfred, everyone who's close to them knows what's really going on. But that's not true for Batgirl. The important thing for her isn't that it happened, but that it COULD happen. That's why they needed to have that talk at the end of the episode. If they'd just ended it with her waking up and everything being fine, this wouldn't be as good of an episode as it is. The fact that it hints at the idea that Gordon suspects what's really going on unofficially is the cherry on top. I thought it was unusual for the viewer to come away from that ending with the belief that Gordon is still clueless.
This is what I believe as well. It's what saves the episode from.the same old "phew, it was just a dream" trope.
Excellent episode.
There are a couple stories were Gordon knows about both Batman and Batgirl's identities, but he just kept it to himself since gotham needs Batman
Video idea: The flashback scene in the Batman Beyond movie.
What happens to Tim Drake Robin is pretty dang disturbing.
Oooh yeah man that was pretty gnarly. Might be good for a ‘top 5 darkest moments’ video? I appreciate the idea. Cool name too 😎
I'm gonna have to say , Batman Beyond, The return of Joker. What Joker and Harley did to Robin (Tim Drake) is pretty dark and twisted. And then there is The killing Joke, even though they toned down the animated version, the book is hardcore.
You had me at “hey dude” - 10/10
Thats high praise
That VPN joke had me rolling 😂
Hey Tommy No pickles lol cool name by the way.
For me, it’s the Batman episode when Batman is plagued visions of his parents tragic deaths at the hands of Joe Chill. The scene where he runs down an ally way and it becomes a gigantic blood filled gun. Wow, yikes, dark shows back then, but brilliant writing and animation, better made overall than some live action movies and shows.
Another disturbing episode was in the sequel show, Batman Beyond, season 2, episode 2. Earth mover, the whole idea of just being buried alive underground alone, is so unsettling alone. The whole story with the business partner, drawn to look like a chubby Bill Clinton lol. The pretty daughter Jackie Maycheck, who sadly never knew her real father, other than being haunted by his ghost in a way. Through the mud Golums, he telepathically creates to see his daughter, wherever she goes.
The whole reveal of how he looks 10 years later, whooo jhezzzz, lousie. So eerie, yet so sad of an episode.
New to your channel, loved this video. Easily the strongest episode from the TNBA run in my opinion. I believe Gordon kinda winks at Barbara when he says “all of you” at the end, which could still mean he thinks she’s “modeling” (or whatever the 1998 equivalent was) but I think the implication is that he knows. Then hits her with the “I won’t hear another word on the subject” or similar line, so it SEEMS like Barbara’s come to terms and found peace about keeping that secret?
They revisited this kinda scenario in Arkham Knight, with Barbara being revealed as Batgirl/Oracle to a clueless Gordon, and it plays out as well as you’d expect.
Bane’s “thought about it…didn’t work for me” line is something I’ve said in my real life because of hearing it on this episode haha. I liked the fight where Batman basically gives up and acknowledges that it doesn’t matter if they fight to the death, really hammers home that Batman has nothing to lose anymore.
Subscribed to the channel, I see you’re an action figure guy so if you enjoy stop motion and collecting feel free to have a look at my channel. Excellent video here!
The second I read the title I knew it would be this episode and you need more love great vid😊
Thanks! Working on it 🎃
I thought this would be about Growing Pains because that episode blew my mind as a kid, but Over the Edge is also an experience in and of itself.
Growing Pains is a crazy one for sure. Should I make a retrospective on that episode too?
@@TommyNoPickles I'm definitely interested in watching you do a video on it. You've got a level of honesty and realness that most reviewers don't. And man, I'll never forget my first time seeing that episode, it's a very striking memory if you're down to hear it; Also, Nightwing's suit (and the other Bat Family suits) weren't bulletproof until around the 2000's to 2010's when comics became more modernized. Which means that (at the time) if they were being shot at, they'd just have to be crazy good at dodging or just get ventilated.
It's on AMA too. Why is it not fully shown, who knows. It's just Batman. You didn't mention the episode name at the beginning. Great delivery.
Thank you for watching, I appreciate you
Man i really do miss this show batman the animated series was so fucking good even though some episodes weren't masterpieces they still were charming and entertaining in their own way 😊
It’s a true gem.
Okay, I came because of the community post by Booze and Boos…I’m a 50 year old woman who has literally never seen even one episode of the Batman cartoon series, but I actually really enjoyed this! Your enthusiasm rivals my husband’s, as he talks about Star Wars! It was nice to be able to put a face to the voice behind one of my favorite glitch in the matrix channels - thanks for entertaining me!😊
I’m so glad you came to give this video a shot. Really appreciate you. I wonder if there are any ~spooky~ Star Wars episodes I can cover…
@@TommyNoPickles maybe so, I’ve only watched a few episodes of the different series though, so I wouldn’t know. Might be interesting to look into though. 🤔
"The most DISTURBING Batman episode"
Do you have the slightest idea of how little that narrows it down?
For me, I will narrow it down lol, it’s the Earth Mover, Batman Beyond, season 2
Hahaha I know. It’s a pretty vague title given the fact that A LOT of the episodes in this run are disturbing.
There were a lot of episodes from the TNBA run of the show that actually had me stunned thinking "they were allowed to show that on Television????"
This along with Growing Pains (The Clayface Episode) and the show's adaptation of the Mad Love tie-in Comic genuinely are some of my favorite episodes from any Television show- period
I forgot about this episode! Thanks for pointing out the sweet hairstyles 😆 you should have dress up like Batman at the end it would have been funny.
NEED to get a Batman costume now
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Are you gonna watch Batman caped crusader?
Oh I’m going to watch Caped Crusader so hard. Would love to cover any dark/disturbing episodes
@@TommyNoPickles yea it’s looks really gd I love the new Batman voice and all the villains golden age design they have gentlemen ghost nocturna Harley onomatopoeia fire bug penguin two face clay face can’t wait for august 1 to arrive lol
It's annoying that Jeffrey Combs voiced Scarecrow in the revamp, but in this episode has no dialogue except a couple of grunts and laughing briefly.
Also, it's the debut of "Gimp Mask Bane".
No way, that was Jeffrey Combs? How are they going to to get a tv legend to grunt and laugh for a less than 2 minutes a screen time in this episode haha
I Actually Watched that Episode!
The most disturbing thing about this episode was if GCPD put 5% of the passion and effort to chase the super villains of Gotham as they did into chasing Batman, they wouldn't need a Batman.
Also notice how quickly Gordon blames my boy Bruce for creating the monsters in Arkham when ONE of his adventures ended in a tragedy.
Yeah there was so much wrong with the actions and motives in this episode. Kinda glad the ‘twist’ at the end undid everything.
A topic you can cover is possibly the future of DC love action movies and what route or adaption you would like to see come to life on future movies. Also characters that are over looked but have dwwp or terrifying stories like pig face, kiteman or even Harvey Dent from batman, I forget Pig faces actual name but yeah you get my point.
Oooohh yeah I love that idea about diving into the deep and terrifying back stories. Good call and thank you!
Well, I love this. 🔥💯💯
You who were too young to know the clothes rack was an outdoor building tv antenna. Like the one that goes on top, but there was a time that city buildings had lower floors extend a line all the way to the roof to help with the buildings interfering with signal.
Thank you!
It's nice to see Batman the Animated Series still has a huge fan base. Love the video and the thing scarecrow hangs his coat on and batgirl tackles is an old school TV antenna
Batman, especially BTAS, will be near and dear to an entire generation of people. And I’m embarrassed I forgot that was a tv antenna lol
“Pleased you remember me Mr Wayne”
Great job man! I grew up with the DCAU and I miss it. Batman Beyond is my favorite show but I love The New Batman Superman Adventures. Fantastic memories of The WB and Kids’ WB! I still can’t believe this episode aired on Kids’ WB! and it makes me happy to be a fan from what I consider one of the best years of the network and it’s blocks.
Please keep the awesome stuff coming. I got suggested your videos because I loved the DCAU, Kids’ WB! and The WB. Keep up the fantastic work man! Also, is this your favorite episode and if not what is?
Thank you Trekapedia! I also grew up with the DCAU, what a wild episode to air on Kids WB, eh? I think this episode is my fave from TNBA, but when it comes to Batman TAS my favorite episode has to be ‘Almost Got ‘em’.
@@TommyNoPickles loved that episode Almost Got ‘Im! My pleasure and thank you again. Keep the awesome stuff coming please like I said before!
Absolutely fire episode icl
Thank you Ħāmšťęř
Nice job
hmmmm i don't find it disturbing
i find it uninteresting
Oh yeah? Well I find YOU super interesting 😜
2:22 HER NAME IS RENEE MONTOYA
Yes THANK YOU!! How could I forget. She’s awesome.
Robin is Tim Drake.
Nailed it!
I was 9 years old when this episode aired and it just my favorite episode of The New Batman Adventures
great vid 🫶🫶
Thank you 🤝
great editing
Yes! Thank you! That actually means A LOT.
This was a great ep!
So many twists! But that “twist” at the end 😤
@TommyNoPickles I think this ep, and old wounds were the great eps of this season
In this day and age, Barbara's confession would've definitely been something related to Only Fans. Hes not trying to hear about that😂😂😂.
Great to see you in fine form and enjoying yourself so much, put a big smile on my dial, thanks for the smile generator!👍😃
Keep being the good self you are,
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This was great, I'm a huge Batman fan. And this was awesome!
Thank you I appreciate you!
It's always fun when a video title doesn't have an episode title but it's still obvious what the topic is.
Also, that shot of her landing on the hood of her dad's patrol car is one of the greatest shots I've seen in animaion, period.
I wish I could see the original draft that showed it head-on 🚔
@@TommyNoPickles As interesting as I think that could be, I think the 'censored version is more impactful (pardon the pun). It's unexpected. When you see them in the car, you don't expect her to land right on it like that.
Cool breakdown of an awesome episode!
Thank you man! Cool name!
Great video
I appreciate you thank yiu