Same, I started watching the game theory videos during sister location, and I’m not sure I ever realised that child murdering pizza restaurant owners is a pretty fucked up thing
Yeah, being in the trenches of FNAF since the 2nd game came out, only watching this now do I realize how much weirder things like, idk, the time traveling ballpit sounds to somone who doesn't know a lot about the lore
@@FredbonFilms if this is in reference to the lowercase “a”, I always type the whole thing lowercase and my phone autocorrects it that way. I assume it’s because of how I used to type it when I was younger but I also think it looks weird lol
You know what even creepier? This video is just made my mind clicked. What is the main mechanic on FNAF 3 that we used? Voice lure. What voice lure that we used? A kid voice. So, essentially Mike is luring his father with a voice of a child.
The lure doesn't fool William though. The Spring Bonnie animatronic is programmed to search for children to entertain, and the endo is a lot stronger than what physically remains of William.
The reason MatPat emphasize "It didn't make any sense" is because what we're hearing is a coherent storyline but the clues Scott left behind was anything but coherent and that man has been struggling for nearly a DECADE over this. There were so many contradictions that needed to be ignored so the story can actually make sense so you can't really blame the man for going insane
You mentioned how Michael has "been through it" and still is very noble, which is absolutely true. Michael is easily one of the most heroic characters in the entire franchise. One character though, who doesn't get mentioned much at all in the lore videos, is Charlie. Essentially, I don't think Matpat mentions that the Security Puppet is actually Charlie, Henry's daughter and William's first victim. She, however, is (in my opinion) even more heroic than Michael. Not to say Michael is unheroic in any way, but he started this because he wanted to redeem himself for what happened to his brother. That is a noble goal, and we all love a good redemption story, but his whole journey started because he did something terrible, even accidentally. Charlie is different. She never did anything wrong, and was literally just a victim in everything, but she became a hero ANYWAY. She didn't have any extra motivation to help those spirits like Michael did-her father hadn't been responsible in what happened to them, she never did anything to them-but she helps them ANYWAY. She was fighting William for longer than anyone else, she led the spirits against him and got him trapped in the Springlock suit, she (like Michael) went around, freeing the spirits from all the different locations. The only time she was in the wrong was in FNAF 2, when she mistook Michael for his father. Y'know, like everyone else did? I'm just saying that, for as much praise as Michael absolutely deserves, Charlie deserves just as much. In my opinion, she is the most heroic character in the entire franchise, she was the first ever possessed animatronic, she was the first to begin the fight against William and (if you believe Matpat's theories) she continues that fight longer than anyone else. The more I find out about her, the more I feel validated in choosing her as my favorite FNAF character.
@@kittypeanut4102 (in continuation to what @--Charlie-- said) That wasn’t my argument. I was just saying the mini games in fnaf 3 + the heads in the bad ending of fnaf 3 + what we learn in fnaf 6 + the info from the books it implies the souls chasing Afton into the suit were Gabriel(Freddy) Jeremy(Bonnie) Fritz(Foxy) Susie(Chica) and Cassidy(Golden Freddy). Charlie wasn’t there because Charlie didn’t want revenge like the others. Cassidy is not heroic in anything other than the princess quest games. I was just correcting something.
I'm almost certain there wasn't a single coherent story when FNaF started. The devs just followed what the community figured out and changed that stuff in every following game, so that it's still "mysterious".
We never really had any idea of what was going on in Security Breach in the first place tbh. Too much unfinished story and the complete absence of the teaser content threw us off.
@@masansr Ah yes, the devs! Scott Scott's imagination Scott's overwhelming urge to totrure both theorists and challenge runners and yes, Steel Wool later xD
@@masansrSomewhat. There was one pretty coherent story when there was only the first four games being the dream theory. Scott pretty much confirmed that that was what he was going for then and all the clues and evidence for it was there and was coherent. Then of course the community didnt like it and Scott decided to complicate the lore more. I think we should all just accept that no theory is gonna be completely satisfactory and even Scott's canon timeline that only he knows for now probably wont be satisfactory either
@@masansr Tbf, it's supposed to be Scott Last Games but it gains traction and then Lore Enthusiasts come in so he took his shot>See how the community won't like his original plan>Redo and then end at FNAF:Pizzeria Simulator
Just using this comment to explain some things - *The scooper* If I am correct the scooper basically inputs remnant into an animatronic, and extracts the remnant from the animatronics as well. Since Micheal is human the amount of remnant that was now inside of him allowed him to survive even past death. Despite not having organs. *fnaf 3, Fazbear Frights* This location was built as a horror attraction, the stories from decades ago had led to fascination among horror fans. People capitalized off this. The former animatronics were gone for various reasons. Someone had torn down that wall to the secret room william afton was in and took him to that location. Which is why phone guy said, “we found one, a real one” he is the only real threat in that game.
1:08 this is once again another reason why people believe Elizabeth died first and something else triggered William to start killing kids. Nobody has any other ideas to what could have done it though. Unless it was something to do with his wife. However we’ll never truly know unless we get a game of the earliest pizzeria with a possible time for the sister location. If we know when that resturant opened for 1 day we would know when Elizabeth died in comparison to 1983.
I think it's easier to just assume William just said that because he works with animatronics, things he literally put back together. And this was either him comforting his son in a "we're going to save you and you'll heal way" him in denial "we will save my son" or him saying "we'll be together again one day"
I think it makes sense if William killed Charlie first, then saw the Puppet acting differently (especially after it was found outside and brought back in) and then decided to do a test where the funtimes would kill a child remotely, but then Elizabeth happened and he decided "screw it" and did it himself in spring bonnie. To add to the point, he would have tried to recreate the conditions of Charlie and left the bodies out in the open, seeing what would happen. Then the Puppet puts them into the bodies and gives them life. Something which probably surprised William, expecting the bodies to be found like Charlie.
@@Kjf365 yeah that makes sense and all however, I feel like there’s way too many gaps and things left unexplained in my opinion. I’m not denying that either theory could be true however I feel like we definitely need to know more in order to debunk either one
I have been that for *years* and I still don't know the answer myself. It's funny isn't it? The feeling of being happy with seeing someone or read someone being scared or lose control of themself? That is one of my favorites myself. Having the feeling of being in control. But I don't know why? When I don't have the answer to explain it? Any ideas are open as I am curious to hear your thoughts about it. ^^
As someone who has been part of the FNAF fandom since game 2 (and who loves looking at the lore) it's so fun to see new people learning about the lore! I don't agree with multiple things MatPat says in their series, but I think there's some things that could be probable! I always forget how truly disturbing the lore is to new people since I'm so desensitized to it lol
1:09 That’s a good question, I’ve never thought about it. Thinking about it it makes the timeline a bit more confusing with MatPat saying he discovered remnant later, unless it was a promise he didn’t know to to fulfill yet like MatPat said.
The thing about MatPat's timeline is that the events are told chronologically, so no more being confused about the chronology of events because they happen roughly in the same order as they're told
Matpat legitimately loses the plot in the second half. I don't blame him particularly. Fnaf lore is broken up into different eras. We are now in a current clarification and solidification period, trying to untangle the mess that is Security Breach. Fnaf 1 outlined a pretty basic idea of murdered children and haunted animatronics. There's hints of a murder being charged. Very basic story. Fnaf 2 elaborated by creating Purple Guy, how the souls possessed the animatronics, and possibly the murder of 5 more children. Fnaf 3 showcases the punishment of the Purple Guy, being springlocked, and attempting to end the story by releasing the souls. Also fire #1, but the fan base called the game boring, and not scary, so the story goes on... Fnaf 4 was the second attempt at completing the story. Hints throughout the game indicate that the entire franchise was the nightmares of a dying and broken child. This was not well received, despite the game being applauded. The story goes on... Fnaf World was a spinoff game. Bad release, but the re-release was very well done. Not really Cannon but it tested several story directions and teased a new character. Fnaf Sister Location is a complete revamp of the Fnaf story. Purple Guy gets named William Afton, via the books originally, but confirmed in game. Mad scientist rewrite. Syfy elements. Confusing, and hard to place in the timeline. Fnaf Pizzeria Simulator is the game that Scott explicitly said was the end of the story, for the 3rd time lol. Henry Emily is brought in, lots of name dropping, clarifying the story! Timeline for 1-6 mostly works, if you squint a bit. Everyone burns! The main problem we're having with earlier story elements is what we are supposed to take as Cannon, what is an Easter egg, what is giving us themes to follow, ect. Novels, Short Stories, Graphic Novels adaptations, spinoffs, Scott's Tweets and website updates, Teasers, the games, ect. Matpat and several other theorists are constantly reinterpreting elements of the story as new clues come out. Stories become wildly different over time.
The lore breaking of Sister Location is frustrating because it's so hard to tell when it takes place. Some people think it takes place after fnaf 1, and while 1987 seems like the best possible time, the tech implications is a headache. My running theory is he stole parts from the already used for scrap wothered animatronics at the new place once they tried to go after him when he killed in the Toy Pizzeria then went into hiding. Afterall, the cameras would likely catch him and if more kids died he'd be arrested for sure. So he went into hiding, micheal found the thing, Rotting micheal ensues and afton hides until the fnaf 1 place sburs down to steal their skeletons to perfect his remnant or keep them from escaping and killing him
Did I miss the part where MatPat explains why HandUnit talks to Michael like he's a regular maintenance employee if the place is a secret bunker? Even if the bunker is connected to the actual rental place, it's clear from things like the paycheck reduction and mention of the mechanics (what is their deal? Why are they there?) that it's not just prerecorded voices but accurate up to date information.
@@wastelandlegocheem But why would it start playing random employee messages when Michael enters through a secret elevator behind shelves? Clearly they're not "general use" because he specifically mentions a cut in your paycheck. And the part about the two mechanics (whose presence suggests the place is still operational and in business) is definitely up to date information.
@ethanlivemere1162 So you're going to mention the mention of a pay cut, and not the fact that he actually receives his basket of Exotic Butters in the fake ending?
Just so you know ahead, the next part will be highly speculative, and these are a bit too, so don't be suprised if maybe in years there will be a new timeline and the story is completely different
21:53 These animatronics were not literally possessed in the real world. This is Cassidy taking their voices to torture him within the mental prison she locked William in.
the recent "adult jokes in cartoons" videos have made me want to see one specifically for Justice League/Justice League Ultimate! there are so many moments i just KNOW Matt will... react strongly to, in any case.
To be honest, Michael is the one that has been through the most in my opinion. Mike killed his brother with his friends, just beacuse they thought that 'prank' would be funny. He was a jerk, because he thought it was funny. When his brother died, he was devastated, seriously. Mike goes on, and libes with knowledge of what he has done is wrong, and how much he hates himself because how much of a dick he was to his brother. Then, dude goes onto his little heroic run, trying to save dead souls, and instead dying himself. Then, as a CORPSE he conitnues his heroic job of trying to free spirits. Then, he faces his father two times, and survives Then, he sits in the fire, as he is sure that is a good ending to it all. Sad thing is, FNAF 6 ending, should be real one, but Scott got obliged to make more games. Like, after FNAF 6, story wrapped up really good. Ending was bitter-sweet, gave us answers and badass line 'Don't keep the devil waiting, Old Friend' and much more. But nope, after that, FNAF went to shit in my personal opinion.
@@JamesP7 True, true to that. Actually ending making Afton be stuck in a hell is a better one. Still, UCN is mostly good Gameplay Wise endgame While FNAF 6 is mostly good Storywise endgame for me
OH YEAH. I, honestly, have had the same reaction when I heard about all-, BUT I also am really intrigued in the way it all works, from a mentally stable standpoint- I really enjoyed seeing your reaction!
Throughout the years so much of this info has changed too! Every new game more or less recontextualizes the entire story. Even since these videos, new books have come out that change our understanding of much of the later games. Fnaf lore is a living, breathing, and mutating organism, and I love it for that.
As someone who had been w fnaf since 2015, to me the lore is still that bite of 87 happened in fnaf 1 and foxy is actually a good guy 😭😭 idk i know the lore but my brain just doesn't want to learn new when i have the old info that i got when i was young 😭😭
By the way , the part of William soul attaching to circuit board and Part 4 as a whole is proven false , it not Matpat fault , it because a book was released week after proving everything false lol
Even if it's not accurate I do like what MatPat put together here. It was a good attempt and I think the result is a nice story, including the next part.
I am both very relieved, and intensely pissed off that they are writing almost the entire story in the books now because security breach had little to no proper story setup. It feels like the most intense, "JK! We didn't bring him back. Please don't be mad?!" That this franchise has ever done. It feels cheap.
@@reggielacey2235 1. William Afton, Henry Emily, and Charlotte Emily all got names in the Novel trilogy 2. The books are explicitly stated, by Scott, to help fill in the gaps in the games story 3. The recent Tales books are explicitly set in the same universe as Security Breach. I know some people are really against using the Books but at this point just get over it and accept that we have to use the books to get the complete story. The books are no different than using the source code of Scott's website and its teasers.
@Poisonheart96 the books aren't canon. They can fill in blanks but that doesn't mean everything said in them are canon as there plenty of contradictions
About that part with Cassidy keeping William alive, they're tormenting him in their personal hell hole, Cassidy made their own special hell for William
“They attached their souls to him until they were like ‘okay this is getting freaky and weird, we’re gonna dip- good luck with your rotting corpse’” might be the most concise and accurate description of those events I’ve heard.
Another FNAF timeline that's really nice is from 'Wendigoon'. The vid's not as long as the Game Theory timeline, but just as well put together, and done recently. :)
I never watched the game theory videos so when I got into fnaf heavily I just watched wendigoon’s video since I was already subscribed to him. I know there are a lot of differences between the two people’s timelines but honestly I just follow wendigoon’s bc I can’t bother to watch all the others
I’m pretty sure the reason Williams soul won’t rest (and won’t got to heav-hell he’s going to hell)is because he still has a reason to posses so as long as the suit is near/is his corpse he will still re attach cus he still has that goal of I will put u back together
In my opinion... the story should have ended right there. I would have also scratched the sister location game cause things started getting too crazy. You know when you love Chucky or Freddy Krueger but then in the later movied it's starts getting more wack? I don't enjoy matching supernatural and science
id highly reccomend you listen to the whole fnaf 6 ending line cause you heard part of it "dont keep the devil waiting old pal" and this whole line is amazing
At this point all of us FNAF fans just accept matpats theory to be the actual story because it makes sense and makes FNAF hella interesting I have been a fan since the very first game was released that I see the theories as the actual story now
So after seeing your reaction to this i feel like it will be interesting to see you react to some of the mimic theory videos, cuz let's just that the new book just did such a big lore drop about the part that starts in this episode
One thing Matpat didn't mention enough was the Puppet Animatronic who is one of the most important characters in Fnaf alongside William afton and Golden Freddy. The Puppet is the one who handles the souls of the dead children and is basically their protector and she's also the Main antagonist in Fnaf2 with her annoying mechanic of Winding up the Musix Box.
So glad you started watching this, to find good reactors I relate to I always search game theory reactions amd scroll to find something interesting. Needless to say you have a new fan.
Henry Emily's speech at the end of Fnaf 6 is fucking iconic from beginning to end. It was such a beautiful way to end the franchise with everyone dying and finally get peace except William, who will burn in hell for the rest of eternity. *then fucking Security Breach happens*
It just make sense if you search for info of the franchise or read the books. If you don't, the day is saved by a character that was introduced in the last game and that we don't even know his name. The ending of Pizzeria Sim was cool, but it's when the franchise basically become transmedia since you can't understand everything without looking for answers in the games only
A few things I feel the need to explain, at least as I understand them in the series: 1. The Toy Animatronics The Toys weren't possessed by the souls of kids. Instead, they were "haunted by the lingering rage" from the possessed, Withered animatronics in FNAF 2. The EXPENSIVE Toy Animatronics went haywire and had to be scrapped, which left a devastating hole in Henry's wallet. That's why the restaurant in FNAF 1 is so low budget. 2. "Soul Metal" After Henry's daughter, Charlotte, was William's first, the Puppet goes outside to find her dead. It hugs her, rusting in the rain. Charlotte possesses the puppet and brings those 5 kids back to life by putting their souls in the animatronics. William eventually sees Freddy, Bonnie, Chica, and Foxy walking on their own and tears them apart. Cassidy leads the 4 other souls into William's secret room, and William starts to freak out. He hops into his Golden Bonnie suit and starts laughing, only for the springlocks in the old (probably wet from rain) suit to snap. He refuses to die and sits in that room for 30 years, his soul fusing with the suit as he becomes Springtrap. At some point in the series, Afton (probably) doesn't know about the Puppet, but he does realize there has to be something special about those suits for them to move on their own accord. He melted them down. Hence, the term "soul metal" was introduced for the blueprints of his Funtime animatronics: Ballora, Foxy, Freddy, and the Bonnie Hand Puppet. However, Circus Baby was different. The others were fused with 4 of the 5 souls of Afton's murder spree kids that were brought back by the Puppet. Since they were melted down into one fluid, they reformed themselves back into one, creating a walking mass of wires and parts named Ennard. Whether Circus Baby contains the soul of Afton's daughter, Elizabeth, the fact she's not one of the Puppet's evocated children, or something else entirely, she wasn't included in the amalgamation because she's different. 3. Scooping Supposedly, "scooping" was meant for both the extraction of the Funtime animatronics' endoskeletons during maintenance and also peoples' souls. 4. Ultimate Custom Night Not counting FNAF World (the adorable FNAF RPG), each FNAF game has "custom nights" where the player can input each animatronics' difficulty and try to survive for 1 night. The difficulty can range from 0 (nonexistent) to 20 (insane). The 8th or so game in the franchise, Ultimate Custom Night, solely consists of 50 difficulty-adjustable animatronics (and then some) from all the previous games. For context, here's a pic from the Steam store page: cdn.cloudflare.steamstatic.com/steam/apps/871720/ss_cffdf58378e26fae3346c0df6ccbc0c03aeaa3b5.1920x1080.jpg?t=1568143255 This game is literally William Afton's hell. Every time someone plays a night in Ultimate Custom Night, they're playing as William Afton living through his personal hell because Cassidy (Golden Freddy; that one kid he particularly shouldn't have killed) refuses to pass on at this point.
The reason matpat reiterated “it doesn’t make any sense” was more of a jab that he couldn’t really explain the lore of it even with this complete timeline
If you need more lore info I’m here like I’m writing a FNaF au plus am doing an in-depth analysis of all the characters (humans) and YOU CALLED WILLIAM MICHAEL IM CRYING BC TAYLOR (the TMOOE Michael) IS ONE OF MY TOP 3 CHARACTERS Anyways, my drama aside, I can make a whole essay from a writer’s perspective on theories But canon? That would probably be a few sentences lol
Tactical blunder, but honestly if my soul was trapped in an immovable fursuit for like at least like 10 maybe 20 years I wouldn't wanna let my killer off the hook so easily either
The scooper essentially pierced through his skin and scooped out his bones and organs, leaving ennard to crawl into his body, pulling the skin over the metal. Pretty..odd
NO, THE MEDIOCRES WERE NOT POSSESSED. The ghost (the one you hear whispering when they talked) was just using them to speak her words in the hell she made for William.
Honestly I recomment Gibi's Good Idea Bad Idea and not because i have any hate for MatPat (I actually love his theories) but because sir made a whole 8 hour video starting from the very first game, abalyzing each game and theory one section at a time, explaining the books in depth, etc. and the fact that he even edited (or at least recorded) a full 8 hour video makes it feel so much more reliable, and to me the summary he gives at the end feels like it makes enough sense that i can live with it for now. Then again, if others don't vibe with it thats fine, but that's just my two cents.
if u don't click like on this vid imma scoop u so watch out
I clicked so fast dw mathew o7
Noooooooooooo
please don't scoop us Mathew 😔🙏
oh god
Certified ONE 14 moment
I’ve been so enthralled in the FNaF lore since 2015 that I forget how absolutely disturbing and insane the plot is
Same, I started watching the game theory videos during sister location, and I’m not sure I ever realised that child murdering pizza restaurant owners is a pretty fucked up thing
Please bro, just say FNAF
Yeah, being in the trenches of FNAF since the 2nd game came out, only watching this now do I realize how much weirder things like, idk, the time traveling ballpit sounds to somone who doesn't know a lot about the lore
same - the more narrative style of MatPats timeline-episodes definitely makes you see how f*cked up the plot is lol
@@FredbonFilms if this is in reference to the lowercase “a”, I always type the whole thing lowercase and my phone autocorrects it that way. I assume it’s because of how I used to type it when I was younger but I also think it looks weird lol
“That is a dope line” oh you have no idea henry’s fnaf 6 speech is absolute FIRE no pun intended
My god it damn near brought me to tears
@@RoxxyFly i literally tear up each time i hear it unexpectedly, and i have again lmao the entire speech is literally the peak of fnaf
"why won't this guy die?" That's the question we've all been asking ourselves Matt.
Yes, would water kill Whatevertrap at this point?
@@smt64productions40 Honestly, im a supporter of freezing him. Fire obviously doesn't work, use ice instead.
Little did we know at the time, he really did in Ultimate Custom Night and Glitchtrap was a whole new monster
You know what even creepier?
This video is just made my mind clicked.
What is the main mechanic on FNAF 3 that we used? Voice lure.
What voice lure that we used? A kid voice.
So, essentially Mike is luring his father with a voice of a child.
OH SHIT! THAT'S TRUE
William just can’t resist killing kids
I realized this from Henry's speech in FNaF 6
The lure doesn't fool William though. The Spring Bonnie animatronic is programmed to search for children to entertain, and the endo is a lot stronger than what physically remains of William.
@@thisisasupersayin376 Doesn't it also work in Pizzeria Simulator though?
The reason MatPat emphasize "It didn't make any sense" is because what we're hearing is a coherent storyline but the clues Scott left behind was anything but coherent and that man has been struggling for nearly a DECADE over this. There were so many contradictions that needed to be ignored so the story can actually make sense so you can't really blame the man for going insane
You mentioned how Michael has "been through it" and still is very noble, which is absolutely true. Michael is easily one of the most heroic characters in the entire franchise. One character though, who doesn't get mentioned much at all in the lore videos, is Charlie. Essentially, I don't think Matpat mentions that the Security Puppet is actually Charlie, Henry's daughter and William's first victim. She, however, is (in my opinion) even more heroic than Michael. Not to say Michael is unheroic in any way, but he started this because he wanted to redeem himself for what happened to his brother. That is a noble goal, and we all love a good redemption story, but his whole journey started because he did something terrible, even accidentally. Charlie is different. She never did anything wrong, and was literally just a victim in everything, but she became a hero ANYWAY. She didn't have any extra motivation to help those spirits like Michael did-her father hadn't been responsible in what happened to them, she never did anything to them-but she helps them ANYWAY. She was fighting William for longer than anyone else, she led the spirits against him and got him trapped in the Springlock suit, she (like Michael) went around, freeing the spirits from all the different locations. The only time she was in the wrong was in FNAF 2, when she mistook Michael for his father. Y'know, like everyone else did?
I'm just saying that, for as much praise as Michael absolutely deserves, Charlie deserves just as much. In my opinion, she is the most heroic character in the entire franchise, she was the first ever possessed animatronic, she was the first to begin the fight against William and (if you believe Matpat's theories) she continues that fight longer than anyone else.
The more I find out about her, the more I feel validated in choosing her as my favorite FNAF character.
I mean it was Cassidy who led the spirits to fight Afton when he was stuck in the suit. But I feel you are spot on with everything else
@@zemellion26 I love Cassidy, but c'mon now, she isn't heroic in any way, she just wants revenge (good for her, good for her)
"It's in your nature to protect the innocent"
@thorwilhelms9635 they never claimed that Cassidy was heroic. They were just making a lore correction.
@@kittypeanut4102 (in continuation to what @--Charlie-- said)
That wasn’t my argument.
I was just saying
the mini games in fnaf 3 + the heads in the bad ending of fnaf 3 + what we learn in fnaf 6 + the info from the books
it implies the souls chasing Afton into the suit were Gabriel(Freddy) Jeremy(Bonnie) Fritz(Foxy) Susie(Chica) and Cassidy(Golden Freddy). Charlie wasn’t there because Charlie didn’t want revenge like the others. Cassidy is not heroic in anything other than the princess quest games. I was just correcting something.
Sometimes I forget how messed up FNAF is until someone who doesn’t know FNAF tries to learn about the lore
Just so you know, the fourth part is mostly wrong. It was proven wrong just after it released with new books, because Scott just loves to troll Matpat
I'm almost certain there wasn't a single coherent story when FNaF started. The devs just followed what the community figured out and changed that stuff in every following game, so that it's still "mysterious".
We never really had any idea of what was going on in Security Breach in the first place tbh. Too much unfinished story and the complete absence of the teaser content threw us off.
@@masansr Ah yes, the devs!
Scott
Scott's imagination
Scott's overwhelming urge to totrure both theorists and challenge runners
and yes, Steel Wool later xD
@@masansrSomewhat. There was one pretty coherent story when there was only the first four games being the dream theory. Scott pretty much confirmed that that was what he was going for then and all the clues and evidence for it was there and was coherent. Then of course the community didnt like it and Scott decided to complicate the lore more. I think we should all just accept that no theory is gonna be completely satisfactory and even Scott's canon timeline that only he knows for now probably wont be satisfactory either
@@masansr Tbf, it's supposed to be Scott Last Games but it gains traction and then Lore Enthusiasts come in so he took his shot>See how the community won't like his original plan>Redo and then end at FNAF:Pizzeria Simulator
I just feel bad for Matthew for just now learning about the trauma of the fnaf lore 😭😭
another mathew afflicted by the curse of this knowledge
Oh no
I just realized things
Poor Matt
@@brendanmysteryso many matthew’s have been traumatised by fnaf 😭
Great video. I loved the part where Ourple guy picks up Foxy and throws him into the Grand Canyon. Glad you reacted to it
Bro it's purple not ouprple
Aubergine man: GRAND CANYON GRAND CANYON GRAND CANYON GRAND CANYON GRAND CANYON GRAND CANYON GRAND CANYON
@@shininglimbo but at least he threw foxy in the grand canyon, since he's obviously not joking
YIFF THE FAX
FOX IN LINGERIE.
Just using this comment to explain some things -
*The scooper*
If I am correct the scooper basically inputs remnant into an animatronic, and extracts the remnant from the animatronics as well.
Since Micheal is human the amount of remnant that was now inside of him allowed him to survive even past death. Despite not having organs.
*fnaf 3, Fazbear Frights*
This location was built as a horror attraction, the stories from decades ago had led to fascination among horror fans. People capitalized off this. The former animatronics were gone for various reasons. Someone had torn down that wall to the secret room william afton was in and took him to that location. Which is why phone guy said, “we found one, a real one” he is the only real threat in that game.
I love mat’s reactions to these! They’re so fun
thank u sm
Wait…
Mat…
Matt…
Good lord
@@Vinesus I’m just now putting the two together-
There also used to be mirror mat.
Theres too many mat(t)s 😭
1:08 this is once again another reason why people believe Elizabeth died first and something else triggered William to start killing kids. Nobody has any other ideas to what could have done it though. Unless it was something to do with his wife.
However we’ll never truly know unless we get a game of the earliest pizzeria with a possible time for the sister location. If we know when that resturant opened for 1 day we would know when Elizabeth died in comparison to 1983.
I think it's easier to just assume William just said that because he works with animatronics, things he literally put back together. And this was either him comforting his son in a "we're going to save you and you'll heal way" him in denial "we will save my son" or him saying "we'll be together again one day"
It’s was the crying child that died 1983 not Elizabeth
I think it makes sense if William killed Charlie first, then saw the Puppet acting differently (especially after it was found outside and brought back in) and then decided to do a test where the funtimes would kill a child remotely, but then Elizabeth happened and he decided "screw it" and did it himself in spring bonnie.
To add to the point, he would have tried to recreate the conditions of Charlie and left the bodies out in the open, seeing what would happen. Then the Puppet puts them into the bodies and gives them life. Something which probably surprised William, expecting the bodies to be found like Charlie.
@@megashark9495 I know I said the date Elizabeth died in comparison to 1983 (the child’s death) in order to figure out who’s came first
@@Kjf365 yeah that makes sense and all however, I feel like there’s way too many gaps and things left unexplained in my opinion.
I’m not denying that either theory could be true however I feel like we definitely need to know more in order to debunk either one
im so desensitized to fnaf lore, but sometime i remember how gruesome it is lmao
Oh no. I really like it when Mathew is disturbed and terrified. What am I becoming? Or what have I been all along?
I have been that for *years* and I still don't know the answer myself. It's funny isn't it? The feeling of being happy with seeing someone or read someone being scared or lose control of themself? That is one of my favorites myself. Having the feeling of being in control. But I don't know why? When I don't have the answer to explain it?
Any ideas are open as I am curious to hear your thoughts about it. ^^
As someone who has been part of the FNAF fandom since game 2 (and who loves looking at the lore) it's so fun to see new people learning about the lore! I don't agree with multiple things MatPat says in their series, but I think there's some things that could be probable! I always forget how truly disturbing the lore is to new people since I'm so desensitized to it lol
Micheal doesn't know Circus Baby is his sister right away. That discovery spans an entire game's worth of plot.
1:09 That’s a good question, I’ve never thought about it. Thinking about it it makes the timeline a bit more confusing with MatPat saying he discovered remnant later, unless it was a promise he didn’t know to to fulfill yet like MatPat said.
The thing about MatPat's timeline is that the events are told chronologically, so no more being confused about the chronology of events because they happen roughly in the same order as they're told
2:29 fun game: when you see any description of a character doing something, you can add to the end "What they didn't account for was the ghosts"
Matpat legitimately loses the plot in the second half.
I don't blame him particularly. Fnaf lore is broken up into different eras. We are now in a current clarification and solidification period, trying to untangle the mess that is Security Breach.
Fnaf 1 outlined a pretty basic idea of murdered children and haunted animatronics. There's hints of a murder being charged. Very basic story.
Fnaf 2 elaborated by creating Purple Guy, how the souls possessed the animatronics, and possibly the murder of 5 more children.
Fnaf 3 showcases the punishment of the Purple Guy, being springlocked, and attempting to end the story by releasing the souls. Also fire #1, but the fan base called the game boring, and not scary, so the story goes on...
Fnaf 4 was the second attempt at completing the story. Hints throughout the game indicate that the entire franchise was the nightmares of a dying and broken child. This was not well received, despite the game being applauded. The story goes on...
Fnaf World was a spinoff game. Bad release, but the re-release was very well done. Not really Cannon but it tested several story directions and teased a new character.
Fnaf Sister Location is a complete revamp of the Fnaf story. Purple Guy gets named William Afton, via the books originally, but confirmed in game. Mad scientist rewrite. Syfy elements. Confusing, and hard to place in the timeline.
Fnaf Pizzeria Simulator is the game that Scott explicitly said was the end of the story, for the 3rd time lol. Henry Emily is brought in, lots of name dropping, clarifying the story! Timeline for 1-6 mostly works, if you squint a bit. Everyone burns!
The main problem we're having with earlier story elements is what we are supposed to take as Cannon, what is an Easter egg, what is giving us themes to follow, ect. Novels, Short Stories, Graphic Novels adaptations, spinoffs, Scott's Tweets and website updates, Teasers, the games, ect.
Matpat and several other theorists are constantly reinterpreting elements of the story as new clues come out. Stories become wildly different over time.
As a FNAF fan, I love seeing people react to the lore for the first time, the way everything just freaks them out 😂
There are two kinds of people in this world.
Those who know what being scooped is and those that don't...yet.
The lore breaking of Sister Location is frustrating because it's so hard to tell when it takes place. Some people think it takes place after fnaf 1, and while 1987 seems like the best possible time, the tech implications is a headache.
My running theory is he stole parts from the already used for scrap wothered animatronics at the new place once they tried to go after him when he killed in the Toy Pizzeria then went into hiding. Afterall, the cameras would likely catch him and if more kids died he'd be arrested for sure. So he went into hiding, micheal found the thing, Rotting micheal ensues and afton hides until the fnaf 1 place sburs down to steal their skeletons to perfect his remnant or keep them from escaping and killing him
Did I miss the part where MatPat explains why HandUnit talks to Michael like he's a regular maintenance employee if the place is a secret bunker? Even if the bunker is connected to the actual rental place, it's clear from things like the paycheck reduction and mention of the mechanics (what is their deal? Why are they there?) that it's not just prerecorded voices but accurate up to date information.
@@ethanlivemere1162 i feel like it wouldnt consider him an employee if it was up to date. He didnt say qnythin about rhe bot
@@wastelandlegocheem But why would it start playing random employee messages when Michael enters through a secret elevator behind shelves? Clearly they're not "general use" because he specifically mentions a cut in your paycheck. And the part about the two mechanics (whose presence suggests the place is still operational and in business) is definitely up to date information.
@ethanlivemere1162 So you're going to mention the mention of a pay cut, and not the fact that he actually receives his basket of Exotic Butters in the fake ending?
@@ethanlivemere1162Wasn't that voice always just Ennard (spaghetti animatronic) trying to trick Michael?
The Melodies aren’t haunted, Cassidy just used them in particular to talk to Afton because he hates them so much
The Fnaf lore is legendary for leaving almost everything for interpretation.
Just so you know ahead, the next part will be highly speculative, and these are a bit too, so don't be suprised if maybe in years there will be a new timeline and the story is completely different
WATCHING MATHEWS FIRST REACTIONS WITHOUT THE CONTEXT OF THE GAMES OR BOOKS IS SO FUNNY LMAO
"I still think that's a very hellish end--"
Me: "Bold of you to assume it was an end."
5:24 yes Matthew, underground bunkers tend to be far down
The caption made me visibly wince, I know exactly what's coming and can't wait for Matthew's reaction to it 😬👍
21:53
These animatronics were not literally possessed in the real world. This is Cassidy taking their voices to torture him within the mental prison she locked William in.
'i thought i was pretty well prepared for the end'.
Trust me, most of US werent prepared for that either
the recent "adult jokes in cartoons" videos have made me want to see one specifically for Justice League/Justice League Ultimate! there are so many moments i just KNOW Matt will... react strongly to, in any case.
22:27 no, henry didn't do anything and Mediocre Melodies have bo soul in them. It just Cassidy using them to scare afton over and over again
To be honest, Michael is the one that has been through the most in my opinion.
Mike killed his brother with his friends, just beacuse they thought that 'prank' would be funny. He was a jerk, because he thought it was funny.
When his brother died, he was devastated, seriously.
Mike goes on, and libes with knowledge of what he has done is wrong, and how much he hates himself because how much of a dick he was to his brother.
Then, dude goes onto his little heroic run, trying to save dead souls, and instead dying himself.
Then, as a CORPSE he conitnues his heroic job of trying to free spirits.
Then, he faces his father two times, and survives
Then, he sits in the fire, as he is sure that is a good ending to it all.
Sad thing is, FNAF 6 ending, should be real one, but Scott got obliged to make more games. Like, after FNAF 6, story wrapped up really good.
Ending was bitter-sweet, gave us answers and badass line 'Don't keep the devil waiting, Old Friend' and much more.
But nope, after that, FNAF went to shit in my personal opinion.
*after UCN
UCN didn’t ruin any prior games or create more unanswered questions
@@JamesP7 True, true to that.
Actually ending making Afton be stuck in a hell is a better one.
Still, UCN is mostly good Gameplay Wise endgame
While FNAF 6 is mostly good Storywise endgame for me
@@diegostach9563 True. I love 6 for the story and UCN for gameplay.
27:03 YOU MISSED THE OPPORTUNITY TO SAY "Faz-inating"
OH YEAH. I, honestly, have had the same reaction when I heard about all-, BUT I also am really intrigued in the way it all works, from a mentally stable standpoint- I really enjoyed seeing your reaction!
Throughout the years so much of this info has changed too! Every new game more or less recontextualizes the entire story. Even since these videos, new books have come out that change our understanding of much of the later games. Fnaf lore is a living, breathing, and mutating organism, and I love it for that.
9:00 the title finally clicked for Mathew. Congrats you figured it out🎉👏
5:21: "Underground bunker is pretty far *down* "
As someone who had been w fnaf since 2015, to me the lore is still that bite of 87 happened in fnaf 1 and foxy is actually a good guy 😭😭 idk i know the lore but my brain just doesn't want to learn new when i have the old info that i got when i was young 😭😭
The only correct way to enjoy FNAF
By the way , the part of William soul attaching to circuit board and Part 4 as a whole is proven false , it not Matpat fault , it because a book was released week after proving everything false lol
Even if it's not accurate I do like what MatPat put together here. It was a good attempt and I think the result is a nice story, including the next part.
Classic 😂
23:25 this part got deconfirmed recently by one of the books, William is finally dead
prove it. the booka are not canon
I am both very relieved, and intensely pissed off that they are writing almost the entire story in the books now because security breach had little to no proper story setup. It feels like the most intense, "JK! We didn't bring him back. Please don't be mad?!" That this franchise has ever done. It feels cheap.
@@antidotebrain69 the books aren't canon soo
@@reggielacey2235
1. William Afton, Henry Emily, and Charlotte Emily all got names in the Novel trilogy
2. The books are explicitly stated, by Scott, to help fill in the gaps in the games story
3. The recent Tales books are explicitly set in the same universe as Security Breach.
I know some people are really against using the Books but at this point just get over it and accept that we have to use the books to get the complete story.
The books are no different than using the source code of Scott's website and its teasers.
@Poisonheart96 the books aren't canon. They can fill in blanks but that doesn't mean everything said in them are canon as there plenty of contradictions
Been waiting excitedly to see how you reacted to this episode lol
Was really excited for you to learn about scooping :>
Bro Henry’s speech at the end of pizzeria sim is just- it’s so gooooood
About that part with Cassidy keeping William alive, they're tormenting him in their personal hell hole, Cassidy made their own special hell for William
“They attached their souls to him until they were like ‘okay this is getting freaky and weird, we’re gonna dip- good luck with your rotting corpse’” might be the most concise and accurate description of those events I’ve heard.
Another FNAF timeline that's really nice is from 'Wendigoon'. The vid's not as long as the Game Theory timeline, but just as well put together, and done recently. :)
I never watched the game theory videos so when I got into fnaf heavily I just watched wendigoon’s video since I was already subscribed to him. I know there are a lot of differences between the two people’s timelines but honestly I just follow wendigoon’s bc I can’t bother to watch all the others
Please play more fnaf games!! It was a lot of fun to watch you play fnaf 1 :)
Oof: if Part 3 was almost too much for Mathew: a reaction to Part 4 is going to be a doozy~
and guess what... its wrong
@@reggielacey2235 I swear Scott waits for when mat uploads to release new content with lore just to mess with him
!!! been so pumped throughout this whole fnaf lore catch-up series
I’m pretty sure the reason Williams soul won’t rest (and won’t got to heav-hell he’s going to hell)is because he still has a reason to posses so as long as the suit is near/is his corpse he will still re attach cus he still has that goal of I will put u back together
In my opinion... the story should have ended right there. I would have also scratched the sister location game cause things started getting too crazy. You know when you love Chucky or Freddy Krueger but then in the later movied it's starts getting more wack?
I don't enjoy matching supernatural and science
I love you getting into things I like. It's always so fun
id highly reccomend you listen to the whole fnaf 6 ending line cause you heard part of it "dont keep the devil waiting old pal" and this whole line is amazing
Welcome to hell Afton is waiting for you. 😂
In all fairness I love this franchise
Fuck yeah, just what I needed.
I legit started singing when I saw this
"Why won't he die??"
Yeah we keep asking that too,we still keep asking
Yeah when I first learned what actually happened to Michael I was honestly really horrified for the two days after I saw it haha
At this point all of us FNAF fans just accept matpats theory to be the actual story because it makes sense and makes FNAF hella interesting I have been a fan since the very first game was released that I see the theories as the actual story now
YESSS ANOTHER FNAF VID YIPPEEE!!! The final speech is spoken by Henry Emily and it’s one of my favorite speeches in any media ever
23:42 we’ve been asking that question since FNAF VR Help Wanted.
5:10 Mathew, buddy, I think ur mixing up William and Michael again-
So after seeing your reaction to this i feel like it will be interesting to see you react to some of the mimic theory videos, cuz let's just that the new book just did such a big lore drop about the part that starts in this episode
at 5:11 is where he said Michael was the one that killed children I love how he forgot that William killed and not Michael lol
One thing Matpat didn't mention enough was the Puppet Animatronic who is one of the most important characters in Fnaf alongside William afton and Golden Freddy.
The Puppet is the one who handles the souls of the dead children and is basically their protector and she's also the Main antagonist in Fnaf2 with her annoying mechanic of Winding up the Musix Box.
So glad you started watching this, to find good reactors I relate to I always search game theory reactions amd scroll to find something interesting. Needless to say you have a new fan.
This title really spoke to me, for I feel a similar pain
How I yearn for a time before I knew springlock suits were a thing
Once you're done with this series, I recommend ID Fantasy's "I fixed matpat a sister location problem" video!
"salt and burn them. Call Sam and Dean." Matthew, something you want to share with the class?
Henry Emily's speech at the end of Fnaf 6 is fucking iconic from beginning to end. It was such a beautiful way to end the franchise with everyone dying and finally get peace except William, who will burn in hell for the rest of eternity.
*then fucking Security Breach happens*
It just make sense if you search for info of the franchise or read the books.
If you don't, the day is saved by a character that was introduced in the last game and that we don't even know his name.
The ending of Pizzeria Sim was cool, but it's when the franchise basically become transmedia since you can't understand everything without looking for answers in the games only
I just like to imagine that Michael is wearing fake skin so he can look somewhat human.
That sounds terrifying, he would look more like a The Thing (1982) prop than human
Fnaf should've ended the moment Henry burnt everything
Yoooooo new ep for Lovejpy is out!
5:12 *breathes in and out* Michael isn't the killer Mathew... its William
A few things I feel the need to explain, at least as I understand them in the series:
1. The Toy Animatronics
The Toys weren't possessed by the souls of kids. Instead, they were "haunted by the lingering rage" from the possessed, Withered animatronics in FNAF 2. The EXPENSIVE Toy Animatronics went haywire and had to be scrapped, which left a devastating hole in Henry's wallet. That's why the restaurant in FNAF 1 is so low budget.
2. "Soul Metal"
After Henry's daughter, Charlotte, was William's first, the Puppet goes outside to find her dead. It hugs her, rusting in the rain. Charlotte possesses the puppet and brings those 5 kids back to life by putting their souls in the animatronics. William eventually sees Freddy, Bonnie, Chica, and Foxy walking on their own and tears them apart. Cassidy leads the 4 other souls into William's secret room, and William starts to freak out. He hops into his Golden Bonnie suit and starts laughing, only for the springlocks in the old (probably wet from rain) suit to snap. He refuses to die and sits in that room for 30 years, his soul fusing with the suit as he becomes Springtrap.
At some point in the series, Afton (probably) doesn't know about the Puppet, but he does realize there has to be something special about those suits for them to move on their own accord. He melted them down. Hence, the term "soul metal" was introduced for the blueprints of his Funtime animatronics: Ballora, Foxy, Freddy, and the Bonnie Hand Puppet. However, Circus Baby was different. The others were fused with 4 of the 5 souls of Afton's murder spree kids that were brought back by the Puppet. Since they were melted down into one fluid, they reformed themselves back into one, creating a walking mass of wires and parts named Ennard. Whether Circus Baby contains the soul of Afton's daughter, Elizabeth, the fact she's not one of the Puppet's evocated children, or something else entirely, she wasn't included in the amalgamation because she's different.
3. Scooping
Supposedly, "scooping" was meant for both the extraction of the Funtime animatronics' endoskeletons during maintenance and also peoples' souls.
4. Ultimate Custom Night
Not counting FNAF World (the adorable FNAF RPG), each FNAF game has "custom nights" where the player can input each animatronics' difficulty and try to survive for 1 night. The difficulty can range from 0 (nonexistent) to 20 (insane). The 8th or so game in the franchise, Ultimate Custom Night, solely consists of 50 difficulty-adjustable animatronics (and then some) from all the previous games.
For context, here's a pic from the Steam store page: cdn.cloudflare.steamstatic.com/steam/apps/871720/ss_cffdf58378e26fae3346c0df6ccbc0c03aeaa3b5.1920x1080.jpg?t=1568143255
This game is literally William Afton's hell. Every time someone plays a night in Ultimate Custom Night, they're playing as William Afton living through his personal hell because Cassidy (Golden Freddy; that one kid he particularly shouldn't have killed) refuses to pass on at this point.
The Winchesters would have a field day at Freddie's
I'd love to see you reacting to the new Lovejoy EP
Woohoooo! Whose goin to the scooping room with me? It's currently my easiest weight loss plan
The reason matpat reiterated “it doesn’t make any sense” was more of a jab that he couldn’t really explain the lore of it even with this complete timeline
Listening to some ultimate custom night voice lines might be a good idea
If you need more lore info I’m here like I’m writing a FNaF au plus am doing an in-depth analysis of all the characters (humans) and YOU CALLED WILLIAM MICHAEL IM CRYING BC TAYLOR (the TMOOE Michael) IS ONE OF MY TOP 3 CHARACTERS
Anyways, my drama aside, I can make a whole essay from a writer’s perspective on theories
But canon? That would probably be a few sentences lol
ok nerd
yay more fnaf !! i love fnaf and ur videos these have been so fun i am watch rn :]]
23:40 Man, it's like you're already part of the FNAF community, welcome home buddy
Clicked on his channel at the exact right time!
Been waiting for this, thanks Mathew haha
You should continue the video in your next upload, I love your reaction and impression of matpats Fnaf theories 💪✨
Cassidy really should have just let Afton die. He's way too much trouble
Tactical blunder, but honestly if my soul was trapped in an immovable fursuit for like at least like 10 maybe 20 years I wouldn't wanna let my killer off the hook so easily either
Afton probably is dead or still in UCN by SB
afton is dead after fnaf 6. GT and BT are not afton. Search up Mimic sweep
“Call Sam and Dean” 🤣😂
“The dedication he’s had though is ridiculous.”
You have no idea
YESSSSS FINALLY PART 3
The scooper essentially pierced through his skin and scooped out his bones and organs, leaving ennard to crawl into his body, pulling the skin over the metal. Pretty..odd
1:09 as stated in part 2, William got sus vibes on puppet after he killed charlie, so he "tried it out" again
Yay, more fnaf timeline reaction
i have literally never been this early to a video ever,oh my god.
ur so early that im still hanging here lmao so H E L L O
@@MathewMcKenna H E L L O T H E R E
NO, THE MEDIOCRES WERE NOT POSSESSED. The ghost (the one you hear whispering when they talked) was just using them to speak her words in the hell she made for William.
Honestly I recomment Gibi's Good Idea Bad Idea and not because i have any hate for MatPat (I actually love his theories) but because sir made a whole 8 hour video starting from the very first game, abalyzing each game and theory one section at a time, explaining the books in depth, etc. and the fact that he even edited (or at least recorded) a full 8 hour video makes it feel so much more reliable, and to me the summary he gives at the end feels like it makes enough sense that i can live with it for now. Then again, if others don't vibe with it thats fine, but that's just my two cents.
I went to this vid and got an ad and at the end it said "Your days of scooping are over"