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- The war in Afghanistan was sold to the public by the U.S. and its Western allies as a painful but necessary measure to keep the world safe from Islamist terror.
But by the time of the U.S.’s sudden, chaotic withdrawal from the country in August 2021-following a 20-year conflict that cost an estimated 176,000 lives-it was clear that the war had ultimately been a costly exercise in futility. Significantly, that was a conclusion that had been reached much earlier by many of the soldiers who had risked their lives in its name.
For the latest episode of VICE’s Informer series, we spoke to an anonymous former British soldier about his experiences in Afghanistan, which he said left him with long-term psychological impacts and severe disillusionment with his own government.
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Navy vet here. i remember exactly where i was the day Kabul fell, i was in my barracks room in WA state. i had been keeping tabs on the situation, our withdrawal, how the Taliban was gaining more ground. i remember one night i checked the news, and saw the Taliban had taken Kabul and had reestablished the Islamic emirate. i was beyond flabbergasted, thousands of lives lost,. trillions of dollars wasted. i was thinking what would the ship i was stationed on have to say about it the next day. i go to the ship and this is what they said, nothing, absolutely nothing.
Womp womp
😂😂
Thankyou for your service
these comments are so lame. it’s so interesting yet scary to know that the public’s mistrust of the government is shared with the same people who actively fought/fight for it. i hope you’re doing good
@@phillipmanzon5166 How sad. I can only believe they said nothing because everyone knew what a failure that entire endeavor was - from beginning to end. What could they say? As a flight attendant I saw and transported hundreds of soldiers during that time. My mission was to give a “Mom Hug” to every soldier who wanted one. My heart was breaking for all of them.
most wars are a waste of time and lives, fighting for excuses made up by politicians. it's sad what veterans had to go through.
they literally signed up to hurt innocent people be so ffr
They sign up for the money. The military is one of the few remaining ways someone in poverty can enter the middle class without acquiring house-sized levels of debt. Soldiers risk their lives, limbs and sanity, and yes, need to do the violent bidding of their governments, but that’s the world we live in.
For common people yes. For those in power wars are a tool of politics and a tool to earn some good old money.
@@jewsaregenocidalhoressigned up for ? or forced to by a draft by there government and if they wouldn’t have went they would have been arrested? when the governments start war our only choice as citizens is to trust our government and believe were doing good and go and fight like there forcing you or go sit in prison for who knows how long cuz you didn’t go
@@AwwScam NOBODY is FORCING YOU TO HURT INNOCENT PEOPLE FOR MONEY!!!! NOBODY IS GETTING DRAFTED IN MURIKA YOU JOKEMAN.
"All about money and oil"
This has been going on for decades
There is no oil in Afghanistan and this guys clearly has an agenda. This is BAD journalism.
@@CM-pn4mflol wut
Wrong
@@CM-pn4mf Afghanistan is extremly rich with precious metals. Thats why China invest after US left. It is always about money ...
huh, they changed the thumbnail now...
@@CM-pn4mf Actually you're wrong. There is plenty in the Amu Darya basin, they just haven't tapped into it yet.....
And there you have it in a nutshell.
yepp, exactly what i thought as well
THE SECOND we withdrew from Afghanistan… the second.. the taliban took over… we lost thousands of lives for NOTHING. For greed!
FYI more Americans died in 9/11 than Americans who died in Afghanistan......
Alhamdulillah
taliban stopped opium production faster than the US did
@@0xBasedChang but the people aren’t protected.
@@kayla1245768 they're more protected than they were during the occupation
War is worse than hell, in hell only the guilty suffer. in war everyone suffers and the guilty profit the soldiers and innocents suffer and everyone is forced to be complicit
most soldiers choose that fate, knowing they’ll kill innocents eventually.
@@mallarieluvsgirls yeah some, there Is cops or firefighters go in the wrong reasons too, but I'm staying like drafted men. I know in America enlisted soldiers sign up for a livable wage and better opportunity to live but I'm staying like how a lot of places in the world were you have no choice but to be drafted
Please make more Informer videos, these are my favorite videos.
Truly
Their G.O.D. is...
Gold
Oil
Drugs
All God's are usually even Apollo 😊
God on drugs is G.O.D. 😮
Capitalism.
War is a racket
for some
Largest and oldest to exist
The soldier who killed Bin Laden stated something similar
weird how they never showed us bin laden's body
And killed infants assumed to be related to Bin Laden. Wtf
You think we got Bin Laden huh? that's cute lol
It was actually British intelligence who found him but our goverment wouldn't sanction action so we passed the intelligence to the USA and they did what they do and got it sorted apparently. Who knows?
I had to research how many British solders went to Afghanistan, I dont remember seeing that many when I was there. I do remember seeing endless poppy fields when i was there, not too many oil refineries however, but thats just me.
Maybe the area you were in didn’t had that much Brits or maybe the Brits were stationed in some other part of Afghanistan.
That’s because they were stationed elsewhere
Yes its all about oil, in a country that doesnt produce much oil. Afghanistan is the number one opium producer and the western world suffered from an opioid crisis during that time.
Yes. But that's never been a problem for the US. the poor people farm the opium, sell it to warlords, who sell it to the CIA that brings it to Europe to sell.
This is just plain bad journalism. They got one disillusioned vet talking about his personal conspiracies with zero evidence.
@@CM-pn4mf”However, in December of last year, Bloomberg reported that China's Central Asia Petroleum and Gas Co. had tripled its crude oil production in Afghanistan.Jun 9, 2024”
@@CM-pn4mf Alright. How about a Colonel? th-cam.com/video/AkJqraXqKLU/w-d-xo.html
@@CM-pn4mf Opium production in Afghanistan reached record heights during the war on terror. Like we are talking hundreds of thousands hectares of new poppy fields.
By 2006 Afghanistan was the source of 86% of ALL the world’s opium.
It may have started because of terrorist and oil, but the pentagon was lead by the military industrial complex. These people did not want to end the war. Too much money was being made by defense contractors. It also worked well to leave most of our military equipment behind, so that the contractors can make more equipment.
Never knew this
I think a lot of us already knew this right away.
Yeah i don't think we really learned anything new here.
I feel bad for this guy and everyone else who got duped into thinking they were defending their country and fighting terrorism and evil. You cannot bomb away terrorism and you cannot bomb yourself a safe, stable and friendly country (take notes Israel).
Israel isn't the only country bombing others
@@Francisco-b3n3q Israel are the only ones bombing Palestinians (if you don't count Hamas misfires).
But otherwise you're 100% correct, too many warmongers exist in this world.
Finally a veteran spitting truth
The rest are silent and submissive.
a murderer**
Oil? In Afghanistan? You think OIL was the reason America invaded a country that has no oil?
You'd be surprised, the area in Afghanistan around Tajikstan does indeed have oil. But it's the worst place to go to try and get it and makes absolutely no fucking sense.
There is oil in Afghanistan. About 962 million barrels of crude according to a study.
He is clearly disillusioned with his experiences and has spiraled into the same conspiracy bucket a lot guys I served with have.
Opium and rare earth materials, also they wanted to control and focus the flow of heroin into Russia and adjacent countries giving substantial aid to local warlords to traffic into Russia as a form of Narco espionage vice did a huge documentary about it a few years ago but many reasons, prop up the defense infrastructure("gonna build explosives they gotta blow up somewhere.")
maybe not oil, but Afghanistan has some of the richest mineral deposits in the world.
Mining in Afghanistan was controlled by the Ministry of Mines and Petroleum, prior to the August 15th takeover by the Taliban. It is headquartered in Kabul with regional offices in other parts of the country. Afghanistan has over 1,400 mineral fields,[1][2][3] containing barite, chromite, coal, copper, gold, iron ore, lead, natural gas, petroleum, precious and semi-precious stones, salt, sulfur, lithium, talc, and zinc, among many other minerals.[1][4][5] Gemstones include high-quality emeralds, lapis lazuli, red garnet and ruby. According to a joint study by The Pentagon and the United States Geological Survey, Afghanistan has an estimated US$1 trillion[6] of untapped minerals.
wikipedia.org/wiki/Mining_in_Afghanistan#:~:text=It%20is%20headquartered%20in%20Kabul,zinc%2C%20among%20many%20other%20minerals.
Weird that it was all about oil. Afghanistan imports most of its oil from Iran and Uzbekistan and its main exports is agriculture.
Lol
Oil? In Afghanistan? Vice is running out of ideas...
@@CM-pn4mf there are oil and gas reserves in Afghanistan. The country has been known to have various mineral resources, including hydrocarbons. The US Geological Survey (USGS) and the Afghan Ministry of Mines and Petroleum have conducted surveys indicating significant quantities of oil and natural gas in several regions.
Key points about Afghanistan's oil and gas reserves include:
Amu Darya Basin: This area in northern Afghanistan has been identified as having significant oil and gas potential. Several oil fields have been discovered here, including the Angot, Kashkari, and Bazarkhami fields.
Afghan-Tajik Basin: Also in northern Afghanistan, this basin is considered to have substantial hydrocarbon resources.
Helmand Basin: In southern Afghanistan, this region has potential oil and gas reserves, although it is less explored compared to the northern basins.
Estimates: According to USGS estimates, Afghanistan may have approximately 1.6 billion barrels of crude oil, 16 trillion cubic feet of natural gas, and 500 million barrels of natural gas liquids.
However, despite these resources, the extraction and development of Afghanistan's oil and gas industry face significant challenges, including political instability, security concerns, lack of infrastructure, and technical expertise. These factors have made it difficult to fully exploit the country's hydrocarbon potential.
Well you see the Left doesn't want to admit that America is a liberal empire spreading feminism all around the globe so they come up with ridiculous arguments.
There are some very important pipelines, från asia to europe, stop those one, the alot of less oil to european/african market. so "oil" is correct enough. I was a soldier in th same war, no pipelines in mine area, beside a small part, those area did get some extra attention from private security and we regular soldiers from all over the world.
OIL in Afghanistan? This is SLOPPY journalism Vice. I served in Afghanistan as well and I can definitively say we were not there for oil...
Actually it wasn't for oil but for Israel
You were there for the poppy fields. The West needs their opium. Why else would the Taliban burn all those fields as soon as they took over in 2021? Afghanistan is tired of being your slaves in the drug trade.
So what were you there for then?
Drug was it not?
15 of the 19 terrorists on 9/11 and Osama bin Laden were from Saudi Arabia so Republicans invaded Iraq and Afghanistan.
Trump and the GOP rewarded Saudi Arabia with nuclear secrets, weapons technology and weapons to commit war crimes in Yemen. Trump even trained a Saudi terrorist at NAS Pensacola!
We will not forget? Remember 9/11? Anything for oil!
Iraq and Afghanistan were scapegoats to avoid confronting Saudi Arabia.
Vice , can you choose a sound of the persons more understanable?? i dont understand anything only reading the subtiutles
That's because his face and voice are disguised
I think this justification suits the situation in Iraq better
Yepp!
''But... How can the worlds greatest, and most modern force, with the best trained soldiers in the world, the most advances equipment and war-tech,
loose to some cavemen with rusty AK's and only protection is some dirty 'bedsheets' and turbans as 'helmets' ? ''
Weell... I think it's good ppl get to hear this.. Cause... It's something called REALITY!
Where are Ronald Reagen's Freedom Fighters now?
Homeless and on the streets addicted to fentanyl
, while illegal aliens are given a free handout.
there are some military bootlickers in the comments lol
faxxxx
they make me sick
Going to war freewillingly is not only stupid it's also harmful to a lot of people affected by it.
It's gotta suck to walk around and see everyone as a potential threat or enemy.
The idea we could take Iraq and Afghanistan “better” was so absurd. Those places are huge and hostile and have beaten out other invaders over the ages
So sad Trump released 5,000 Tailban prisoners overnight
The British military is right wing? HAHHAHAHHAHA ok buddy
Why was Russia in Afghanistan? The US came in after to continue that.
@@Joe-sg9ll the only explanation on the "war on terror" that I have heard so far that actually makes sense.
War is business. Soldiers are employees.
more like they are puppets
will never understand muricans that keep thanking them like, thank u for your service in colonizing other countries for us ig?😂
The fact that we have to go to war because of bad leaders is terrible.
Maybe the people should let their leaders fight their own ridiculous fights.
Peace isnt profitable
love your content
First and last
Progress was never really the aim.
Me Playing PUBG Left Me With PTSD Because Of Teamkillers...
War is a hell of a business. It has always been
i have a friend who has a lot of issues thanks to war he got blown up and everything he seems to be getting better now though slowly
The multiple camera angles changing all the time made me dizzy
This is what I don't understand about people in countries like the US, Australia, UK etc. who join the military. You are risking your life when you're on tour, and when you return via mental health issues. Best of all it's going to be in a war that you really shouldn't be involved in. The US shouldn't have had boots on the ground since the Vietnam War.
Yes our forefathers served in WWI and WWII but the world was a different place then.
Are you serious? People join not because they care or want to. They are trying to get out of a bad home situation. Govt offers a lot of benefits so it looks like a way out. O don’t blame them😊
This criminal channel, calls islam as a terror!. Tell me, wich Quranic verse call or orders for commiting terrorism??!!
P.S. those misinformation are a double edge sword, and the good side of it is that many people who fell into this misinformation have ended up converting to islam, when they have read the Quran and found that these claims are misinformation and that islam is the true religion.
0:54 A waste of time?? What about all the girls that got educated? The freedoms women gained. It's incredibly sad the Taliban have taken back over and reversed that. But at least the people have tasted a different life, one day I hope they are able to remove the Taliban themselves.
1:04 Oil? Afghan barely exports, and has barely ever exported, any oil.
2:55 Warriors are not tanks, they are infantry fighting vehicles and could be carrying 10 people, you don't want them hit by an IED. He doesn't even mention other potential allied transport that could have been using the routes. So with a lack of dedicated mine clearing vehicles, people on foot is the only way....
3:46 Billions were spent on projects other than security to try and help the locals.
This guy is clearly suffering and needs help.
It's also clear he was failed by the CoC who failed to explain what they were doing and why.
Vice has a responsibility to not use people who are suffering like this, putting a title on that suggest everything he says is correct and some kind of big exposure ***Vice has now changed the title, hopefully realised their mistake it taking the word of one disgruntled person***. There is a responsibility as journalists to not just let him ramble on without challenge to what is being said.
to answer you properly,,,
LOL
Surely the US didnt invade Afghanistan because they thought their girls were too badly educated? This was never stated anywhere as being the reason, and is just an attempt for you to defend the ockupation afterwards, isnt it?
@@PunkOnARant Did I say it was the reason? 😏 I was responding to his 'waste of time remark'. There were over seven million children attending school in 2007 when he was there, which was a six-fold increase from 2001. Thirty-seven percent of those children were girls and about 400,000 female students started school for the first time in 2007. In 2001 there were NO girls in school. In addition, ten universities were functioning throughout the country in 2007, compared to only one during Taliban rule pre 2001.
It isn't just education, life expectancy increased by several years, the child mortality rate almost halved - saving close to 100,00 children / year by 2014, access to safe drinking water and sanitation sky rocketed.
Clearly this was never communicated to him as a junior soldier, which was a failure of senior leadership. If it had been communicated to him, it might not have felt like a waste of time.
By the time NATO left, millions and millions of children had been educated that otherwise wouldn't have been. Millions of women were able to work and start to get their independence. Many hundreds of thousands of children survied that otherwise would have died.
So even if education wasn't an explicit aim, it was part of the plan to leave a better country... unfortunately that isn't how it played out. However, education is the path to freedom from these kinds of regimes.
So what do you think is better for the people of Afghan? Taliban rule? Or Nato occupation that worked towards installing a democratic government?
All of that. All of that. Wasted in the same hour the US left.
Wasted time and US tax dollars.
The Tali just walked on in the same day and same hour and took it all back.
Yeah, it was a waste of time lol
@@hasky9813 im sure they would rather have taliban rule then foreigners invading their country
Leave countries alone
Fighting for peace is like fuckin' for virginity
How well the afghans fought against the us military really shows you the power of a guerrilla army even when Ill equipped
Yeah, funny the passion people will fight with to keep INVADERS outta their country, but we're just letting them POUR IN over our borders......
This is one of the reasons I did not enlist and fight in my community against so-called evil.
Why do we have to bleed for the rich and spoiled government
The war was hijacked by politicians. Suddenly we were supposed to nation build and provide womens rights to scool... strange, the army never taught me those skills. Removing the enemy on the other hand.
We shouldnt have left. Casualties were the lowest they had ever been during the conflict. It could have been a great strategic asset and there are plenty of natural resources that could pay back the investments and more.
Man...may you find jesus Christ and him gives to you peace.
It was and has always been about money, power and resources! (oil, in this case)
Bro I have ptsd too and i know whats like i feel you
Lol@ oil in Afghanistan.
If you think that's what makes Afghanistan a valuable target, you're clueless. Why aren't our gas prices crazy low?
You know what we do have lots of for cheap? Heroin
So sad what they are doing to people
But what did he do to his head
ukrainians and russians have the same x 1000
Thank u
This British soldier is brave; thank you for exposing the lies we knew.
Afghanistan has no significant oil reserves.
there are oil and gas reserves in Afghanistan. The country has been known to have various mineral resources, including hydrocarbons. The US Geological Survey (USGS) and the Afghan Ministry of Mines and Petroleum have conducted surveys indicating significant quantities of oil and natural gas in several regions.
Key points about Afghanistan's oil and gas reserves include:
Amu Darya Basin: This area in northern Afghanistan has been identified as having significant oil and gas potential. Several oil fields have been discovered here, including the Angot, Kashkari, and Bazarkhami fields.
Afghan-Tajik Basin: Also in northern Afghanistan, this basin is considered to have substantial hydrocarbon resources.
Helmand Basin: In southern Afghanistan, this region has potential oil and gas reserves, although it is less explored compared to the northern basins.
Estimates: According to USGS estimates, Afghanistan may have approximately 1.6 billion barrels of crude oil, 16 trillion cubic feet of natural gas, and 500 million barrels of natural gas liquids.
However, despite these resources, the extraction and development of Afghanistan's oil and gas industry face significant challenges, including political instability, security concerns, lack of infrastructure, and technical expertise. These factors have made it difficult to fully exploit the country's hydrocarbon potential.
My heart goes out to all Vets & their love ones❤ including those that were abandoned by our currant President. I watched them returning Home with flags around caskets & so little support to all It was horrible! My ex- husband was a 3 tours member of the US Navy & was never the same. RIP ❤ he died in 2009 as a result “. Of knows what he was exposed to” according to the VA. He died a “ broken man “. But his son & loved him always & will never forget that he did this bec he believed it was the right thing to do ( 1964). I hope nobody disrespects those who choose to serve or die for America 🇺🇸 🇺🇸🇺🇸❤️❤️🙏🏽🙏🏽. God Bless You❤❤❤😭😭‼️
Biden is loathed by our vets .
Blame Obama
Never thinking to invade our country without consequent. 12 Years ago i told my teacher the truh and everyone say i am a lier.
Wtf is he saying
Boycott Labour
think that this program is very interesting and that it keeps hidden every dark side that is hidden in every job but I am curious to know the dark sides that are hidden in the pornography of online sites
fr but i feel like the industry wouldnt expose it 🤔
It was a cowards war it was started by rich cowards and they sent the poor to fight for them thats every war.
There are burgers who think they didn't loose that war
Can’t understand him
Read subtitles
its a good job they have subtitles then, you cant read either?
usually works like that with gammons
@@DoctorGlitchPhD nah cant understand gammons
"Serving." They make it sound like it's a good thing.
THANK YOUUUU. a person with sense that isn't giving their praise to these pieces of garbage.
I did two tours, climbed the ranks and have still some kickass playlists.
monster. karma is real and coming for you.
Glad you enjoyed yourself
@@Doven88 its what you make of every experience you come across. California dreaming while we waited.
David McBride blew the whistle and no one listened
Way too much out of context rambling. Allegations not getting fakt checked. What a waste of an interview.
I cannot understand a single word this dude said at all
there are subtitles baked into the video
@@andrewp393 I don't read...
Yooo
Surprise surprise!
War SUCKS
he aint wrong
They got ptsd on the other side too. The reality of the matter is you guys are todays “hero’s”. Truly.
I know he is British
Yea and you volunteered
Great audio ❤
Dude is entertaining as hell to watch. But his parents or close homies gt step in at this point, he clearly can’t control his gambling addiction, he’s taking more gear to keep his physic kus he’s more into partying than actually working out, I like the dude n wish him the best, but anyone with a normal brain knows this is not sustainable. One day it’s all gonna come crash down, n it’ll be too late for him to realize
My friend tried to send me there for $500. Glad I said nah.
Can you explain? Tried to send you to where, Afghanistan? 500$ to bring something back?
@@SaulTeebolz yeah what lol
we'll never know
#LANDBACK
Keyboard warriors in the comments say that it wasn’t for oil but just soldiers say that most wars are for no other reason than to obtain resources and power of the another country very little wars are fought because it was absolutely necessary
murderers**
THE WEST NEEDS TO REFUND AFGHANISTAN
agree
Very difficult to understand because it sounds like his mumbling
He should try fix some of the damage hes done
When the uranium ran out the US up and left....
america went to afganistan in fear for the system that the taliban installed (the islamic monetary system ) it is part of laws of islam>>>
these laws abolish tax and install zakah which is far better >>>> if the ideology of islam laws succeeded in one place the rest will follow.... bush said it in a video called (bush addresses troops) from AP achieve >>>
they wanted to hold the world for their order and exclude islamic order .
This guy actually thinks afghanistan was about oil? You guys need to do more research on these "informants" you bring on
Your an agent sent to convince everyone that the informant in this video is spreading misinformation. I believe everything he said btw.
Most people think that the war was about oil. Not easy for everyone to find time to research on every topic, so this is what majority were told
@@aurora6920 the only difference is vice brought this hack on here and he told everyone afg was about oil and it wasn't
10 years later vice will be making docuemtaries on palestine pretending to be woke
Lets listen to a guy whos country represented less than 1% of troops in Afghanistan.. 😂
Actually, it s much more than that. The British had roughly 1/5 of the casulites, the Americans had.
i dont think i heard anything new here.
bro expected the Taliban to be handing out candy to US troops😅, military is not for the weak
This is why I’d rather stay in my country and live life too it’s fullest rather then leave my family behind and risk my life for something pointless. I honestly don’t get why these “heroes” do that and everyone’s like thank you for your service.
They do it so you CAN choose to stay home, live your life and be comfy and also so you can write things like this on the internet without fear of someone killing you and your entire family. We say " thank you for your service" because it takes a whole lot of guts to sign up for the military, knowing that you may never come home.
Energy will always be the most valuable asset to a country.
why going there then ? you reap what you sow.