I’m super excited for James Gunn’s plans. Btw quick note, Gunn said Swamp Thing is “tonally” outside of the DCU. So it’s more horror tone compared to the rest of the projects.
I hope they practically BEG Gal Gadot and give her whatever she wants to continue to be Wonderwoman. She was one of the few good DC movies with excellent casting.
Never to be excited. This mixed reboot is a gigantic disappointment and won't sell anywhere near what they are expecting. I'm assuming Comcast will acquire WB in 2024 as scheduled
I'll be honest I think Gunn has killed DC for the next 4-5 years or however long it is until he gets fired... So, 1 through line, yet the new universe starts with a Batman and Superman film in the same year that are from entirely separate universes... 1 actor per character except 3 Bruce Waynes and at least 2 Jokers, probably 3 of them too. A reboot but keeping a bunch of stuff from the old DCEU and continuity. So just a change in direction like Aquaman and Josstice League were, and then like Black Adam was... Gunn, it appears doesn't have the balls to do what needed to be done. I have 0 faith that this will be anything other than another short-term term mess like the previous direction changes...
Wait until the movie comes out - not even cast yet, and lots of hard feelings over Cavill unceremonious departure while leaving in Creep no 1 Ezra Miller.
@@SuperOmnicronsj44 cavill was done after JL until the actor who plays the rock wanted to salvage black adam. He used cavil for his own gains by giving everyone false hopes. Also they are not confirming the ezra situation with the flash movie coming out. If they confirm that ezra is not coming back while the movie is still not out yet then there is no point in watching that film. Another blow to their pocket.
What James Gunn has done for comic books in the last week is insane I’ve seen so many people just starting reading them because of him. I hope he keeps up with the recommendations
I know, right! I’m six issues into Supergirl: Woman of Tomorrow because of his movie announcement. If the movie is half as awesome as the comic series it will be my favorite comic book movie of the year.
@@danielwright3929 I’m two issues in right now but am also reading all star superman, I didn’t realise newer comics were so good and used to just read all the old ones until recently
@@Sheen04 All Star Superman came out in 2005. It’s not exactly new ( 20 plus years ago) DC comic had a great series about Superman and his son ( Supersons) they cancelled it and the writers aged Superboy up to 18 so they could have him date other boys. Superboy then berated his dad for not solving global warming until that series got cancelled. Comic books took a giant dip in quality around 2010 and by 2014/16 they become super woke/preachy/boring. There hasn’t been anything as good as All Star Superman.
@@brianmurphy250 em okay? Not sure what you’re getting at, I never claimed all star superman was new I just said I’m reading it. I also recently rewatched Superman (1978) that’s not me saying that movie is new just that I recently rewatched it. Do you wanna give me a history lesson on how that’s the best superman movie now?
If Nightwing appears in brave and the bold, Im going to lose my shit. This is going to be awesome I think the biggest thing he has said is that he is valuing, writing, creativity, character, you know all the things that make good damn movies, above everything else.
*You juss said it.. so no matter if it’s another garbage movie.. you’ll most likely love it cause ya boy in it.. that’s all it takes to get y’all goin smh*
I never liked the idea of having two on-screen Batmans, it just makes it complicated for kids and new viewers, but after hearing that the DCU Batman will be an older more established version, I realize that this may be the best decision for the character, because one version takes place in the past and follows him in his early years, while the other takes place in the future and follows him through his later years. It’s genius because even though they’re not in the same universe, we can always pretend they are which makes the character easier to follow.
*Crazy how we couldn’t get more T’Challa yet we still n always will get more, more n more of spiderman, batman n supes.. yet many complained as if we wouldn’t*
I really hope we get to see Jason Todd/Red Hood, not only does Red Hood definitely fit Gunn’s style, but I’m always interested to see a different creators take on his death and resurrection but also I’ll take my batfam crumbs where I can get them
I 100% agree with your view on how thematic messages should in addition to defining the DCEU stories themselves connecting up them up in a way that creates not just a box office smash, but a true passion project. James Gunn standing with that definitely shows he has potential to continue the theme of verisimilitude that defines the Superhero genre. Welcome to the Universe…
Super hero movies should be, at its core, a passion project. Because not only for entertainment, it also carries a sense of nostalgia, longing, and motivation. IMO, that is what separate a good super hero movies from the bad ones. The studio and sponsors might be doing it purely for business and profits, but when the director and people involved in the making are doing it for passion, it will shows through.
I’m beyond excited to see what Gunn does with the DCU. In terms of comic book films he hasn’t got a single miss as of yet, actually some of the best CBMs we have seen in the last decade. With Marvel’s recent record & Gunn working at the DCU now, I think this is the time the DCU not only competes with Marvels MCU but overtakes them
I don’t think so because the Superman movie comes out first and I don’t see how they are the villains in that and then after that get their own movie as superhero’s
@@troybracy2915 To be fair, The Authority don’t really fit into the mold of traditional superhero’s. Their methods are brutal and they’ll do what is necessary to achieve their goals. They can be the villains of a Superman film while also getting their own film. The Punisher for example, was pretty much an antagonist for a bit of Daredevil s2. A brutal killer who believed Daredevils methods were flawed. Although, they sort of reach an understanding at the end of the season. Punisher still remains a brutal killer in his own series. The way I see it, The Authority will the antagonists of Superman: Legacy, and by the end of the film, they’ll either be defeated by Superman or they’ll team up with him against a greater threat. By the end of the film, they never truly change their brutal methods and go into their own movie still maintaining their status quo. I think their presence in a superman film is to challenge Superman’s world view and attempt to make him a murder just like The Elite tried to do. They’ll of course fail, and move into their own film where we’ll see the true brutality of their methods. Gunn has made a film about morally questionable characters before so it can work.
@@WarpingFist I definitely could see Superman and The Authority meeting and eventually colliding but I don’t think In the very first Superman movie because the problem that the authority would cause for Superman would have to be resolved by the end of the movie or else Superman would have to be in the authority movie for it all to make sense and I can’t see James Gunn putting Superman in the Authority movie because he could overshadow these new unknown characters. In a comic book or a cartoon I definitely can see the authority being the villains for Superman but in movies it’s still more of a business but either way I’m excited to see what these Authority characters are all about.
I really appreciate the positive take free of political and ideological biases. Maybe things will work, maybe they won't, but it feels nice to have this sort of "look at the bright side" breakdowns, so difficult to find something like this on YT nowadays
the introduction of damien alone opens up the possibility of talia, ra’s, the league, a comic accurate lazarus pit, and even red hood. gunn is a genius
So many possibilities are now open under James Gunn. The number of stories they can tell are numerous with this reset. A Darkseid level threat will not be rushed and characters will be explored.
Darkseid is a morally outdated and stereotypical villain who is of no interest to anyone and after Thanos is generally secondary. And I hope that DC will get rid of the "dark and violent version of Marvel" stereotype imposed on them by the trashy animated films of 2013-2020 and the failed New 52 reboot comics. PS: Henry Cavill is a wooden actor, Gal Gadot is an ugly anorexic, and Margot Robbie should star in porn.
Yeah, Gunn's the Darkseid level threat to the true to character understanding DC fans. Casual fans need rehashing over and over again just criticizing Snyder for something that should've been done a long time ago.
I really don't care for James gunn's vision or any of his past movies. Zack Snyder made superman relatable for me, and for the first time I actually liked how superman evolved in Snyder's trilogy. it really hurt when they decided to cancel the snyderverse. After the snydercut I actually stopped watching superhero movies and TV shows, because nothing even came close to Snyder's take on the genre, his movies gave me hope through the dark situations in my life.
Glad that he made you feel that way but… speaking for a lot of superhero fans Snyder never truly understood what made these character great. The good thing is that you can still watch all of the Snyder films and enjoy them while other people get to experience Gunn’s vision.
@@hasthehighground8560 Snyder understood the characters perfectly, he broke away from the safe mundane comic book formula to give use something darker and much reflected how grim the world we live in is. Yes batman kills, but after 20 years of fighting and losing everyone from his parents to robin, it broke him and he lost his way, he became ruthless, intimating and the criminal truly feared him, which was showing in various scenes. At the end of Bvs Bruce acknowledged they he had lost his way, and made an oath to become better, and he did during the snydercut, where he went to find the meta humans to create team to defend earth from the threat of steppenwolf, which was also a nice homage to the seven samurai. Zack Snyder's take on Superman was also perfect, it showed how the real world would treat someone like superman, and how it affected Clark. In man of steel , We saw Clark looking to find his place on earth, going from job to job searching for a place where he belonged and looking for answers, but after the world found out about superman, some embraced him but most hated and persecuted him which took a toll and made him feel more alienated, then when lex started to setup superman it made him feel worse. everyone was always questioning what his motives were and constantly monitored superman. Being constantly monitored would take a toll on any one, and unlike batman superman is still new to being a superhero, he was going to become the superman we knew in the snydercut and man of steel 2. Both batman and superman were in different stages of their journey, batman was old and been a vigilante for too long, superman was new and still searching for his place and purpose. sadly people did not bother to understand this.
@@ILLRICARDO Absolutely appreciate that you love those films! But strongly disagree that nothing comes close to his take on the genre. There are things I certainly appreciate about his films, but overall I think it's pretty sloppy story telling. Like in BvS for example, it seems like he has his bullet points of where he wants to take the film but getting there is so convoluted. We all understand Batman is in a bad place when we are introduced to the character, but that's no excuse for him making such dumb decisions. We have never met BatFleck before and are expected to go along with the fact he's basically a bad detective and a bit of an idiot. He really has no valid reason for wanting to murder Clark. I always hear people cite his conversation with Alfred or watching the buildings fall, but logically that is in no way a valid reason to kill Superman! Bruce would 100% know Zod was the bad guy. Why would he need to murder the guy that just saved the world lol!? What if more evil aliens returned? Wouldn't it be a good idea to keep Superman around instead of assuming he will turn evil. Which the assuming the guy who just saved the world will turn evil and thus he needs to be murdered is a ridiculous plot point. Cool quote that has no real substance. Batman would do more research. What about the articles about Superman helping people and being inherently good. You can't just say "Batman wasn't thinking clearly" as a reason to go along with that convoluted story telling. And going back to convenient writing, Bruce feels so strongly about his convictions that he is willing to murder the guy who just saved the planet. Yet in an instant all of his convictions and beliefs go out the window when he hears "Martha". And to make it worse it's filmed in a laughable way. And then after 2+ hours of focusing on Batman v Superman, they introduce Doomsday in the last 20 minutes and he kills Superman. There was no need to Frankenstein the Death of Superman into the last few minutes of this film. They don't even build Doomsday up as a big threat, he just shows up and kills Superman. I think people absolutely understand Batman and Superman were at different stages of their journey. I mean it's pretty obvious if Superman just became Superman in MoS and BvS tells us Bruce has been around for 20 years. I would say people take more issue with the story telling & execution.
Love the take on what "Legacy" could mean not just for superman but the villain as well - and how it could serve as a plot device to help Clark come to terms with that repressed loss. I had a feeling he would encounter a smaller threat, but I kinda want it to be Brainiac now.
@@Largentina. I was thinking the exact same thing! And like the idea of it being set in World War Two so they are free to do whatever they want because it’s probably not going to tie in because it was so long ago.
You are the first one who actually may have changed my mind. I just wanted to see the ending of the Snyder verse. I was tired of having reboots or talk about reboots. I wanted to see James Gunn in Zack Snyder’s world and see his spin on it. You’re the first TH-camr to actually made me excited for whatever Gunn is coming out with. Thank you. I still hope they finish Zack Snyders verse in Elseworlds. But still excited about what’s coming out and I cannot come out any faster. Thank you again.
This didn't age well with the talk of how amazing The Flash should be. Talk about one of the biggest bombs in DC history. 😂 The fact that Gunn called it the best superhero movie ever made before it came out should actuslly make people fear his judgement running the DCEU.
Small correction, but there was never an actual confirmation that Aquaman 3 is happening yet. It's just that Jason Mamoa said that he always envisioned the Aquaman movies as a trilogy.
@@Nishanth_mementomori To me, this comment meant too many movies focus on adding the wokeness and super power part of the movie, but don't add enough grittiness and big enough problems for the superhero to overcome
I've loved all the James Gunn Superhero movie that he worked on, especially The Suicide Squad being my most favorite Superhero movie next to Spiderman No Way Home. Whatever James Gunn does, I have a powerful feeling that it's gonna bang
Honestly, i have high hopes and a lot of faith in Gunns vision. Especially since it seems like DC is seemingly so desperate for any success that they're gonna stay out of Gunns way.
While I am hopeful about James Gunn’s DC Universe I am keeping all of my expectations low and not allowing myself to be “excited.” I learned a hard lesson with the release of Cyberpunk 2077. That release really taught me about managing my expectations and just waiting for the final project. He’s going to have to do something really special with the Superman film bc Hollywood as a whole is struggling. If it turns out good I won’t stop talking about it, but if it turns out bad…well I’ll just move on with my life.
I completely agree that Bruce trying to be a good father and mentor is one of the richest, most interesting parts to the Batman mythos that has yet to be explored. In fact, I think it's one of the lesser-explored parts of superhero films that we have yet to see. We've seen plenty of superhero dads/moms that just want to protect their children, but what if your children (adopted or otherwise), are your proteges? Kids that have also been through incredibly horrific traumas and all, in their own ways, mirror some facet of their parental figure? The Batfamily has so, so much potential to be explored in a heartfelt, emotional way that not only sheds some light on a Batman we haven't really yet seen on the big screen, but also spotlights all of the incredible characters that are paramount to the Batfamily and Bruce Wayne's development as a character. I really hope they bring as many Batkids on as possible and do each of them justice. My personal hope is that Cass gets her due after her questionable depiction in Birds of Prey. Bruce trying to teach Damian to not be a little shit and being a loving mentor who tries his best to help Cass unlearn all of the militaristic behavior she was raised to follow would be so heartwarming to watch.
I think some people who criticize the slate have this closed idea about how things should work when it comes to superheroes, so everyone expected this MCU-like thing that would end up in a Justice League movie after several solo films of main superheroes, but here the plan seems to be even larger and more creative, which I can only compare to New Frontier or Kingdom Come.
Creature commandos was such a surprise to me. They aren’t Justice league but I loved them because of how creepy and awesome they are. So seeing them get the tv show they deserve made me smile.
I like how James Gunn’s DCU drops us into an already established universe instead of restarting from scratch with a bunch of boring origin stories. People need to stop acting like the MCU way is the only way. It’s just the only way that worked so far. Plus, Iron Man, Thor and Captain America were virtually unknown to non comic book reading public, while everybody knows who Batman, Superman, Wonder Woman and Flash is, etc.
If batman is out of his prime in his first movie then I will be so dissapointed. I just want a batman the same age as superman so they can grow and develop alongside eachother. I also would have prefered if they showed us the batfamily forming instead if just pulling it out of thin air. Also James Gunn saying that the movie will focus on Damian worries me. Focusing on batmans replacement at the start of this cinematic universe just means that batman won't be in it for long. The mcu tried replacing all their big heros after endgame and everyone hated it I hope James Gunn doesn't start his universe by making the same misstake. I do want to clarify that I can be ok with an already formed batfamily as long as they make it good, my main concern is the age of batman. I want him to be in this prime. I also want to see him encounter some of his bigger villians for the first time. The words "older and more mature batman"worries me. It makes me think if batfleck. He was way out of his prime and close to retirement, he had already fought the joker and lost a robin. If that dceu had continued then that batman wouldn't have beem around for that long. If they make batman a little younger age then the animated show or the arkham games then I think it would be fine. He is in his prime but already has a batfamily. He would be able to keep up with the rest of the league without complaining about his back hurting or saying that he is to old for this.
Batman and Superman are rarely ever similar ages and Superman ages slower so he won't grow old when Batman does. Also, the DCAU Batman is at least a decade older than DCAU Superman and those are the most iconic and beloved versions of those characters.
This is my pitch take for DCU: 1. David Corenswet - Superman 2. Jake Gyllenhaal - Batman 3. Adria Arjona - Wonder Woman 4. Lucas Till - The Flash 5. Trevante Rhodes - Green Lantern 6. Ben Dahlhaus - Aquaman 7. Jamie Foxx - Martian Manhunter 8. Kyle Gallner - Green Arrow 9. Glen Powell - Booster Gold 10. Natalie Alyn Lind - Supergirl
Booster gold has the potential to be absolutely hilarious, both as a character and a show, whilst striking a cunning contrast of complex emotional maturity. A lot like with Peacemaker, which turned out to be an absolute blast which significantly surprised everybody with the level of depth of writing that explored Peacemaker and his teammates. Booster could also pose as the deadpool of the DCU, going forward, to distract the audience from the main overarching narrative. Aahghhgh i just can't wait to see this all come together I'm so pumped
The main concern for me and many other fans is the fact that we are seemingly getting an older Batman in his early 40s (41, 42, 43) and a Superman said to be in his mid 20s (24, 25, 26). The age difference in this situation is not very appealing when the two are supposed to be peers even though Batman has always seemed older. So, I propose a Batman timeline so that we can get the experienced Batman that has gone through Robins to have his son as a 3rd or a 4th (Depending on Tim's inclusion), and is young enough to be a part of a 10 year plan as a man in his prime. Specifically, early to mid 30s (31 - 36). Here is my proposed timeline; Bruce Wayne is 8 years old when Thomas and Martha Wayne are killed. Ex - British Soldier/Spy Alfred Pennyworth becomes Bruce's legal guardian. This is when Bruce's training begins in truth. Training Arc I: Alfred begins Bruce's training in order to give the boy an outlet and the means to protect himself while he continues his school education. Training Year One - Bruce is 8/9 Training Year Two - Bruce is 9/10 Training Year Three - Bruce is 10/11 Training Year Four - Bruce is 11/12 Training Year Five - Bruce is 12/13 Training Arc II: Alfred and Bruce travel the world in order to take a brake from Gotham. Bruce continues his education and training while gaining additional Mentors when Alfred has to leave for Gotham periodically to tend to the Wayne Manor and Wayne Enterprises. Training Year Six - Bruce is 13/14 Training Year Seven - Bruce is 14/15 Training Year Eight - Bruce is 15/16 Training Year Nine - Bruce is 16/17 Training Year Ten - Bruce is 17/18 Training Arc III: Bruce becomes an adult and parts from Alfred, the latter returning to Gotham. He gets a Collage degree, gains more mentors, and runs into Ra's, Talia, and The League of Shadows/Assassins. Training Year Eleven - Bruce is 18/19 Training Year Twelve - Bruce is 19/20 Training Year Thirteen - Bruce is 20/21 (He takes a gap year. This is when he runs into Talia specifically and begins his affair with her, siring Damian). Training Year Fourteen - Bruce is 21/22 Training Year Fifteen - Bruce is 22/23 End of the Training Arcs. Bruce returns to Gotham. He trains for 15 YEARS and has been gone from Gotham for 10 YEARS. Batman Year One - Bruce is 23/24 Batman Year Two - Bruce is 24/25. Dick Grayson becomes the 1st Robin at 13/14. Batman Year Seven - Bruce is 29/30. Dick is fired and becomes Nightwing at 18/19. Jason Todd is taken in to become the 2nd Robin at 13/14. Batman Year Nine - Bruce is 31/32. Jason is killed by the Joker at 15/16. Tim Drake is taken in to become the 3rd Robin at 13/14. Batman Year Eleven - Bruce is 33/34. Tim is 15/16. Talia brings Damian to meet his father at 13/14. Batman Year Eleven is where the Brave and the Bold should take place. We have a Batman who has trained for 15 YEARS, 10 of it which he spends away from Gotham, and has an 11 YEARS worth of experience as Batman under his belt. He sires Damian during his solo travels as a 20 something year old. All of the Robins take on the mantle at 13/14 which I think is the most reasonable minimum age for a live action Robin. Dick would have been Robin for the longest out of everyone (Which it is how it should be) and has been Nightwing for sometime at this point. You can Include Barbara as Batgirl and her transition to Oracle in anyway you like using this template. Jason was killed at 15/16 and is resurrected a couple months later at the same age range which puts him at 17/18 during Brave and the Bold. This gives him enough time to grow and come back as the Red Hood down the line. Also, I think that Superman should be in his late 20s (27, 28, 29) as well. And before people think that this is too old for the planned Superman, I urge them to remember the fact that their beloved Henry Cavill portrayed the Man of Steel in an origin movie where he hadn't even began his career in the Daily Planet at the age of 28. So the ages 27, 28, or 29 for a Superman who isn't having an origin and has been a reporter for a little while and is considered young would be no issue at all. A Superman who is 28/29 to a Batman who is 33/34 is absolutely perfect. And to those who think these ages might not work, remember that Chris Evans was 29 when he played Captain America for the first time and RDJ was 42 when he played Iron Man for the first time. They played their characters throughout a 10 year plan as well and I think nobody is complaining about the results. Anyway, if you have come this far, thanks I guess 😂😅
One of my favorite parts of these announcements is that they seem to be all different and vary in genres. They are sounding all varied so it might be able to over come the super hero burnout
I can already see Gunn in a few years saying: "I am stepping down as co-Chairman and co-CEO of DC because of some shit reason that is definitely not related to the mismanagement, decisions and directions of those sitting on the high table of WB who doesn't know shit about comic books."
I already see a hole in Gunn's new DCU. Superman is gonna be younger while batman is older and already has a kid. I always thought Clark and Bruce as well as Damian and Jonathan were around the same ages
that's been ironed out. James said that his Superman will be only a few years younger, and if you read comics you'd know that Jon ages faster. He literally looks like an adult now in DC comics while Damian still looks 15
The first Batman and Superman team up in the new DCU by James Gunn BETTER be named ‘The World’s Finest’ as that’s one of the most iconic phrases ever.. like ever
I know right I'm glad we're getting a swamp thing movie led by James Gunn and possibly directed by James Mangold this is gonna be awesome but also I'm always gonna be extremely bitter that the amazing Swamp Thing tv show got cancelled and I'm always gonna hold a grudge against WB for cancelling it , I'm trying not to be bitter about it but it's hard not to 😂😅😭
The future Superman films should be filled with hope AAANNNDDD optimism... just like the Christopher Reeve Superman films. For example.....Reeve's Superman choked his evil twin to death in Superman 3. He killed Nuclear Man in Superman 4. He took Zod 's powers away, made him human, broke every bone in his hand, then threw him against the walls of the Fortress of Solitude as he sank to his icy grave in Superman 2's theatrical version. Critics didn't complain about Superman killing back then. We need more hope like when Reeve's Superman gave up being a hero in his second film, took away his own powers so he could sleep with Lois. I especially loved when he went to the diner at the end of Superman 2, and beat up a human truck driver when he got his powers back. He broke a pinball machine with that trucker's head. I loved when Reeve's Superman peeked through Lois' blouse and said "it's pink" in reference to her underwear. Not awkward at all if you brought your child to see the film or watch it with them on TV. Nothing fills me with more hope & optimism than watching Superman smile at the camera as John Williams theme plays even though 7 minutes prior to that we watched Lois sinking into the Earth while being crushed within her car as her mouth filled with dirt during her horrific death scene.
I think it makes sense for Swamp Thing to be separate for a while if he's just an obscure creature in a small community far away from Metropolis or any other place you'd usually find superheroes. It'll just physically be separated via distance
Gunn never said ST would be separate or Elseworld. He specifically said it was a different tone. Never once was it stated that Swamp Thing would be it's own continuity. I swear, people just hear what they want to hear lol.
I love the weird stuff thrown in with the bigger well known superhero stuff. It reminds me of all the crazy spinoffs going on alongside the main character books during the whole "Countdown To Infinite Crisis" storyline. While the actual "Infinite Crisis" was just okay, the build-up had some of my favorite stories. Day Of Vengeance, Secret Six, The OMAC Project, Rann/Thanagar War. So many c-listers and d-listers get their moments to shine. It was a great time to be a DC fan
I'm just glad at least DC is doing what Marvel been lacking for years now; A story that is good and can hold on its own cointained plot, instead of relying on set-up for crossovers and easter eggs of another heroes to be important, relevant, or have any value of being watchable, because the story and movie itself on its own is Mid.
I'll believe it when I see it. Warner Brothers has had a streak of making poor decisions lately, and I'm not yet ready to say James Gunn isn't one of them.
I would imagine Paradise Lost will have the origin of the Bana Mighdall Amazons (Red-haired Artemis’ tribe) and how they broke away from Themyscira via internal conflict over subservience to gods and other priorities. I’d love to see Wonder Woman’s clay origin perhaps at the end of the show too!
It's funny that MCU dominated the Superhero Comic Book adaptations from 2008 to 2019 while DCEU was received mixed reviews from general audience. Now after Endgame, MCU has become a joke while DCEU began to redeem itself from its failures leading to Warner Bros hired James Gunn to run the new DC Cinematic Universe.
Keep up the great work, been watching your videos since the wandavision video, and continue to enjoy hearing your opinions because of how you back them up. I'm always thinking what you'll have to say after an MCU movie, keep it up man!
@@FilmSpeak np. I also think it's so cool how you always see and respond to people's comments despite having so many. I just noticed you're approaching 100k subs so the fact you still read all the comments is really dope
Despite growing up with the MCU, I always preferred DC, which is something I rediscovered when I watched the DCAU in full for the first time as an adult. This looks like DC is not only going be different from the MCU, but better than it in some ways.
Marvel took risks. One of those risks was James Gunn and GotG. So enough with the “marvel is afraid to take risks.” Even the whole connected universe was one
Imagine for the batman trilogy in this universe, we made each film focused around a different robin and the relationship bruce has with them. The first movie is about finding damian and learning to raise his crazy psycho son, second movie could be under the red hood and batman could use what he learned from the first film to deal with jason being back and all that, then the last film we could have the battle for the cowl which could be such a cool story. We could have nightwing be a recurring main character in all the films so he gets mostly fleshed out and then more focused on in battle for the cowl as he struggles to be batman and we could have Tim be retired like in the comics during war games when due to his fathers wishes he stops to go study or whatever. So we know he exists and he could maybe show up once or twice but he doesn't come back full force until battle for the cowl where he comes back as red robin to try and search for batman and the focus could be split between his struggles and character arc and dicks with jason starting off as a redeemed red hood after the second films ending but slowly falling back into his darker methods when bruce is gone and he becomes one of the main villains in the film. It would be so tragic to see him fall throughout the film. It would also be cool to see dick and tim have two different mentalities and fight over if Bruce is dead or not. I don't know how batgirl fits into all of this but honestly we could just have her as oracle and be a recurring character through all three films. Then she could get her own solo movie or series as a prequel having her as batgirl and maybe we could get epic killer moth in live action lmao. I think having a film based around each robin (excluding dick cause he's been done a lot i guess) would be rly the only way to flesh out the bat family in a meaningful way that isn't rushed or bland.
As salty as I am that Gunn shafted so much of the existing DCU, it is a necessary step. And Gunn, as much as people want to flame him, hasn't produced a single dud yet, so I am going to wait and see and I hope this time, we don't get news that some asshole in the executives room forced him to rush something "cause they wanted their bonus".
I can't wait for the DCU! Such a great video! I think Gunn said Creature Commandos will take place in present day. It will feature Viola as Amanda Waller and will also have Rick Flag Sr. on the team. Rick Flag Sr. will also be making an appearance in the Waller series!
I hope Gal Gadot moves on. She could pull off the nicer side of Diana’s personality but she’s not a good actress. Not to mention Patty didn’t write the Wonder Woman world like the actual Wonder Woman mythos.
I really really hope they'll be FULL, LONG, series instead of short ones like, idk, Moon Knight that only has 6 episodes. We need episodes to build things up, know the characters, and to breathe, not just plot point after another.
@Editxxxx I don't understand why he had to kick of the shared universe with an insanely convoluted fight between Batman vs Superman if he was building up to Superman taking the anti-life and fighting Batman again. What a shit plan!
@Editxxxx Why does it matter if he's mind controlled? It's still Batman vs Superman again. The fact he is mind controlled lowers the stakes even more. It's not even a personal conflict, It's Transformers 5. People want great story telling. If it was simply about them fighting BvS would have easily made a billion. I'd argue it's Darksied people really want to see. Not a BvS rematch, especially given how bad the first fight was executed.
@Editxxxx BVS would have made a billion if BvS was received better. General audiences are not that hard to please. Garbage like Aquaman made a billion after JL bombed.
My only problem with DCU is that they kicked out Henry Cavill, claiming that he would be too old for a 10 years plan, but then recast a 70 years old Michael Keaton...
Micheal Keaton for 1 movie only And also Henry cavill is not playing superman but James Gunn confirmed that they r in talk with him for a different role in this universe which he is passionate about
I think they messed up the awsome Snyder cut with a possible Darkside vs Sups and TJL showdown. I don't feel the Hype James Gunn is spewing. I guess we dont have a choice now do we, we'll jut have to wait and see.
God I hope they recast Gal Godot. Having an actor who can't code her accent, forcing other actors to code their accents around her (the other Amazons), is just stupid.
I think the throughline of the Brave and the Bold as a series will be putting a spotlight on individual members of the Batfamily, paired up with Batman for a story
Ah yes Gunn keeping his friends and wife's storylines and castings intact whilst redoing everything else sounds so good. Hell his Superman Film sounds so fresh and original. I can't wait for his universe to burn and crash
People complaining about the reboot even though thats basically DC's whole thing have a universe reboot and keep whats working and get rid of whats not. Anyway this was the best decesion Gunn and Safran given the State of DC Films was at the time, starting over is the best path forward to give us quality DC films like we wanted.
What do YOU think about James Gunn's plans for the DCU? 💥 Are you excited? Comment below! 💥
I’m super excited for James Gunn’s plans. Btw quick note, Gunn said Swamp Thing is “tonally” outside of the DCU. So it’s more horror tone compared to the rest of the projects.
I hope they practically BEG Gal Gadot and give her whatever she wants to continue to be Wonderwoman. She was one of the few good DC movies with excellent casting.
Never to be excited. This mixed reboot is a gigantic disappointment and won't sell anywhere near what they are expecting. I'm assuming Comcast will acquire WB in 2024 as scheduled
@@Nagore6305 Honestly loved Gal but Wonder Woman can be better in my opinion and better to just recast
I'll be honest I think Gunn has killed DC for the next 4-5 years or however long it is until he gets fired...
So, 1 through line, yet the new universe starts with a Batman and Superman film in the same year that are from entirely separate universes...
1 actor per character except 3 Bruce Waynes and at least 2 Jokers, probably 3 of them too.
A reboot but keeping a bunch of stuff from the old DCEU and continuity. So just a change in direction like Aquaman and Josstice League were, and then like Black Adam was...
Gunn, it appears doesn't have the balls to do what needed to be done. I have 0 faith that this will be anything other than another short-term term mess like the previous direction changes...
That story about James Gunn and his father reading Superman was so freaking sweet, I’m so excited now
Wait until the movie comes out - not even cast yet, and lots of hard feelings over Cavill unceremonious departure while leaving in Creep no 1 Ezra Miller.
@@SuperOmnicronsj44 we don’t even know if they keeping Ezra
@@SuperOmnicronsj44 what if .james decide to hired Henry. that would be the biggest suprise.
UNLESS! It was total corporate fabricated bullshit.
@@SuperOmnicronsj44 cavill was done after JL until the actor who plays the rock wanted to salvage black adam. He used cavil for his own gains by giving everyone false hopes.
Also they are not confirming the ezra situation with the flash movie coming out. If they confirm that ezra is not coming back while the movie is still not out yet then there is no point in watching that film. Another blow to their pocket.
What James Gunn has done for comic books in the last week is insane I’ve seen so many people just starting reading them because of him. I hope he keeps up with the recommendations
I know, right! I’m six issues into Supergirl: Woman of Tomorrow because of his movie announcement. If the movie is half as awesome as the comic series it will be my favorite comic book movie of the year.
@@danielwright3929 I’m two issues in right now but am also reading all star superman, I didn’t realise newer comics were so good and used to just read all the old ones until recently
And comic sales have been decreasing so promoting comics to the audience can boost sales and help dc comics.
@@Sheen04 All Star Superman came out in 2005. It’s not exactly new ( 20 plus years ago)
DC comic had a great series about Superman and his son ( Supersons) they cancelled it and the writers aged Superboy up to 18 so they could have him date other boys. Superboy then berated his dad for not solving global warming until that series got cancelled.
Comic books took a giant dip in quality around 2010 and by 2014/16 they become super woke/preachy/boring.
There hasn’t been anything as good as All Star Superman.
@@brianmurphy250 em okay? Not sure what you’re getting at, I never claimed all star superman was new I just said I’m reading it. I also recently rewatched Superman (1978) that’s not me saying that movie is new just that I recently rewatched it. Do you wanna give me a history lesson on how that’s the best superman movie now?
The thing I love most about James taking over is that he’s read other dc comics besides the dark knight returns and watchmen lol
Hes A Pedophile Homie
Hope fully the other directors don’t screw him
@@dennisgalindez4802 u mean writers..cuz most of them are fxking woke
@@TheSoulWithin7 you should go to the cops then instead of telling me lol.
sneak dissing zack ay?
If Nightwing appears in brave and the bold, Im going to lose my shit. This is going to be awesome
I think the biggest thing he has said is that he is valuing, writing, creativity, character, you know all the things that make good damn movies, above everything else.
I've always thought of Alfred as having a grandfather role.
We'll probably see nightwing, thats for sure
He said most the bat family will be in the brave and the bold
@@abhishekkrishna8542 nightwing oracle (or batgirl) maybe tim drake, and maybe red hood. thats all it seems like for now
*You juss said it.. so no matter if it’s another garbage movie.. you’ll most likely love it cause ya boy in it.. that’s all it takes to get y’all goin smh*
I never liked the idea of having two on-screen Batmans, it just makes it complicated for kids and new viewers, but after hearing that the DCU Batman will be an older more established version, I realize that this may be the best decision for the character, because one version takes place in the past and follows him in his early years, while the other takes place in the future and follows him through his later years. It’s genius because even though they’re not in the same universe, we can always pretend they are which makes the character easier to follow.
How old exactly because wouldn’t they need to make a JL movie down the line and the timeline really wouldn’t make any since
@@TheMarmboy 70, give or take 30 years.
*Crazy how we couldn’t get more T’Challa yet we still n always will get more, more n more of spiderman, batman n supes.. yet many complained as if we wouldn’t*
@@TheMarmboy maybe 10-30 years before batman beyond age?
Being an "older and more established version" had nothing to do with it. Obvious marketing response.
I really hope we get to see Jason Todd/Red Hood, not only does Red Hood definitely fit Gunn’s style, but I’m always interested to see a different creators take on his death and resurrection
but also I’ll take my batfam crumbs where I can get them
I 100% agree with your view on how thematic messages should in addition to defining the DCEU stories themselves connecting up them up in a way that creates not just a box office smash, but a true passion project. James Gunn standing with that definitely shows he has potential to continue the theme of verisimilitude that defines the Superhero genre.
Welcome to the Universe…
Super hero movies should be, at its core, a passion project.
Because not only for entertainment, it also carries a sense of nostalgia, longing, and motivation.
IMO, that is what separate a good super hero movies from the bad ones.
The studio and sponsors might be doing it purely for business and profits, but when the director and people involved in the making are doing it for passion, it will shows through.
I’m beyond excited to see what Gunn does with the DCU. In terms of comic book films he hasn’t got a single miss as of yet, actually some of the best CBMs we have seen in the last decade. With Marvel’s recent record & Gunn working at the DCU now, I think this is the time the DCU not only competes with Marvels MCU but overtakes them
Whats their recent record
MCU is on the decline, the main avengers are gone and people don't care about the new characters
I have a feeling 'The Authority will be the villains of Superman: Legacy. Like a spiritual adaptation of Superman vs the Elite.
I don’t think so because the Superman movie comes out first and I don’t see how they are the villains in that and then after that get their own movie as superhero’s
EXACTLY my thoughts, which if that’s the case uhhh FUCK YES!
@@troybracy2915 To be fair, The Authority don’t really fit into the mold of traditional superhero’s. Their methods are brutal and they’ll do what is necessary to achieve their goals. They can be the villains of a Superman film while also getting their own film. The Punisher for example, was pretty much an antagonist for a bit of Daredevil s2. A brutal killer who believed Daredevils methods were flawed. Although, they sort of reach an understanding at the end of the season. Punisher still remains a brutal killer in his own series. The way I see it, The Authority will the antagonists of Superman: Legacy, and by the end of the film, they’ll either be defeated by Superman or they’ll team up with him against a greater threat. By the end of the film, they never truly change their brutal methods and go into their own movie still maintaining their status quo. I think their presence in a superman film is to challenge Superman’s world view and attempt to make him a murder just like The Elite tried to do. They’ll of course fail, and move into their own film where we’ll see the true brutality of their methods. Gunn has made a film about morally questionable characters before so it can work.
@@WarpingFist I definitely could see Superman and The Authority meeting and eventually colliding but I don’t think In the very first Superman movie because the problem that the authority would cause for Superman would have to be resolved by the end of the movie or else Superman would have to be in the authority movie for it all to make sense and I can’t see James Gunn putting Superman in the Authority movie because he could overshadow these new unknown characters. In a comic book or a cartoon I definitely can see the authority being the villains for Superman but in movies it’s still more of a business but either way I’m excited to see what these Authority characters are all about.
I feel like that too, if so. That’s gonna be amazing!!
I really appreciate the positive take free of political and ideological biases. Maybe things will work, maybe they won't, but it feels nice to have this sort of "look at the bright side" breakdowns, so difficult to find something like this on YT nowadays
The OPTIMISM!!
Being a Marvel fan and listening to this makes me so happy for James Gunn. Full support every step of the way🙏
Funny how to be Optimistic the MCU had to leave out the Mutants.
the introduction of damien alone opens up the possibility of talia, ra’s, the league, a comic accurate lazarus pit, and even red hood. gunn is a genius
Was hoping the Robin would’ve been Dick Grayson or Tim Drake Damian Wayne sucks
I can see James Gunn doing a Plastic Man series
Yes! I would love that. Plastic Man is due for his big screen debut or tv debut.
Plastic Man and Booster Gold are literally perfect for him.
@@jacksauce exactly!
@@FilmSpeak yeah it could be hilarious
Jim Carrey would be an amazing cast!
So many possibilities are now open under James Gunn. The number of stories they can tell are numerous with this reset. A Darkseid level threat will not be rushed and characters will be explored.
Darkseid is a morally outdated and stereotypical villain who is of no interest to anyone and after Thanos is generally secondary.
And I hope that DC will get rid of the "dark and violent version of Marvel" stereotype imposed on them by the trashy animated films of 2013-2020 and the failed New 52 reboot comics.
PS: Henry Cavill is a wooden actor, Gal Gadot is an ugly anorexic, and Margot Robbie should star in porn.
Yeah, Gunn's the Darkseid level threat to the true to character understanding DC fans. Casual fans need rehashing over and over again just criticizing Snyder for something that should've been done a long time ago.
I really don't care for James gunn's vision or any of his past movies. Zack Snyder made superman relatable for me, and for the first time I actually liked how superman evolved in Snyder's trilogy. it really hurt when they decided to cancel the snyderverse. After the snydercut I actually stopped watching superhero movies and TV shows, because nothing even came close to Snyder's take on the genre, his movies gave me hope through the dark situations in my life.
Glad that he made you feel that way but… speaking for a lot of superhero fans Snyder never truly understood what made these character great.
The good thing is that you can still watch all of the Snyder films and enjoy them while other people get to experience Gunn’s vision.
@@hasthehighground8560 Snyder understood the characters perfectly, he broke away from the safe mundane comic book formula to give use something darker and much reflected how grim the world we live in is. Yes batman kills, but after 20 years of fighting and losing everyone from his parents to robin, it broke him and he lost his way, he became ruthless, intimating and the criminal truly feared him, which was showing in various scenes. At the end of Bvs Bruce acknowledged they he had lost his way, and made an oath to become better, and he did during the snydercut, where he went to find the meta humans to create team to defend earth from the threat of steppenwolf, which was also a nice homage to the seven samurai.
Zack Snyder's take on Superman was also perfect, it showed how the real world would treat someone like superman, and how it affected Clark.
In man of steel , We saw Clark looking to find his place on earth, going from job to job searching for a place where he belonged and looking for answers, but after the world found out about superman, some embraced him but most hated and persecuted him which took a toll and made him feel more alienated, then when lex started to setup superman it made him feel worse. everyone was always questioning what his motives were and constantly monitored superman.
Being constantly monitored would take a toll on any one, and unlike batman superman is still new to being a superhero,
he was going to become the superman we knew in the snydercut and man of steel 2.
Both batman and superman were in different stages of their journey, batman was old and been a vigilante for too long, superman was new and still searching for his place and purpose.
sadly people did not bother to understand this.
@@ILLRICARDO Absolutely appreciate that you love those films! But strongly disagree that nothing comes close to his take on the genre. There are things I certainly appreciate about his films, but overall I think it's pretty sloppy story telling. Like in BvS for example, it seems like he has his bullet points of where he wants to take the film but getting there is so convoluted. We all understand Batman is in a bad place when we are introduced to the character, but that's no excuse for him making such dumb decisions. We have never met BatFleck before and are expected to go along with the fact he's basically a bad detective and a bit of an idiot. He really has no valid reason for wanting to murder Clark. I always hear people cite his conversation with Alfred or watching the buildings fall, but logically that is in no way a valid reason to kill Superman! Bruce would 100% know Zod was the bad guy. Why would he need to murder the guy that just saved the world lol!? What if more evil aliens returned? Wouldn't it be a good idea to keep Superman around instead of assuming he will turn evil. Which the assuming the guy who just saved the world will turn evil and thus he needs to be murdered is a ridiculous plot point. Cool quote that has no real substance. Batman would do more research. What about the articles about Superman helping people and being inherently good. You can't just say "Batman wasn't thinking clearly" as a reason to go along with that convoluted story telling.
And going back to convenient writing, Bruce feels so strongly about his convictions that he is willing to murder the guy who just saved the planet. Yet in an instant all of his convictions and beliefs go out the window when he hears "Martha". And to make it worse it's filmed in a laughable way.
And then after 2+ hours of focusing on Batman v Superman, they introduce Doomsday in the last 20 minutes and he kills Superman. There was no need to Frankenstein the Death of Superman into the last few minutes of this film. They don't even build Doomsday up as a big threat, he just shows up and kills Superman.
I think people absolutely understand Batman and Superman were at different stages of their journey. I mean it's pretty obvious if Superman just became Superman in MoS and BvS tells us Bruce has been around for 20 years. I would say people take more issue with the story telling & execution.
Love the take on what "Legacy" could mean not just for superman but the villain as well - and how it could serve as a plot device to help Clark come to terms with that repressed loss. I had a feeling he would encounter a smaller threat, but I kinda want it to be Brainiac now.
Most DC fans complaining, don't understand that James Gunn is the best thing to happen to DC since Nolan rebooting Batman.
and in a way, you can thank Disney for trying to cancel Gunn over a stupid 15 year old tweet for him to start talking to WB. 👍
Zack snyder destroyed dceu
I’m so excited about Creature commandos! I’ve been anxious for a DC animated series for a long while now. This slate is legendary in my opinion
If this is as close as I'm gonna get to a Weird War Tales HBO series then I'm fine with it
@@Largentina. I was thinking the exact same thing! And like the idea of it being set in World War Two so they are free to do whatever they want because it’s probably not going to tie in because it was so long ago.
Wow..THEE first person to write that sentence ever....nice 😂
You are the first one who actually may have changed my mind. I just wanted to see the ending of the Snyder verse. I was tired of having reboots or talk about reboots. I wanted to see James Gunn in Zack Snyder’s world and see his spin on it. You’re the first TH-camr to actually made me excited for whatever Gunn is coming out with. Thank you. I still hope they finish Zack Snyders verse in Elseworlds. But still excited about what’s coming out and I cannot come out any faster. Thank you again.
The fact that filmspeak can make a 35 min video in 2 days is AMAZING!
This didn't age well with the talk of how amazing The Flash should be. Talk about one of the biggest bombs in DC history. 😂
The fact that Gunn called it the best superhero movie ever made before it came out should actuslly make people fear his judgement running the DCEU.
Thank you for a positive, optimistic video. Too many trying to write the project off before it’s even started.
That’s mostly just Snyderverse fans
@@Ollyiswild_04 nope.
@@TheSoulWithin7 uhhh yes
@@mohabalserafe3795 um nope
@@CaptainSalviyes
I truly feel like Marvel had its time to shine and it ended with Endgame and now it is time for DC to do it with James Gunn
It didnt end with endgame.
Small correction, but there was never an actual confirmation that Aquaman 3 is happening yet. It's just that Jason Mamoa said that he always envisioned the Aquaman movies as a trilogy.
Zachary isn't anti vaxx, he only said that Pfizer doesn't have a great track record which he is objectively correct about
too many people focus on the "super" and not enough people focus on the "man"
lmfao true
@@danieljohnson2608 but how is that true ? He's already cast Superman how is this comment even making sense after the casting announcement
@@Nishanth_mementomori To me, this comment meant too many movies focus on adding the wokeness and super power part of the movie, but don't add enough grittiness and big enough problems for the superhero to overcome
@@danieljohnson2608 but James Gunn has never added anything woke in his movies till date so how does this comment even make sense under this video
I've loved all the James Gunn Superhero movie that he worked on, especially The Suicide Squad being my most favorite Superhero movie next to Spiderman No Way Home. Whatever James Gunn does, I have a powerful feeling that it's gonna bang
Honestly, i have high hopes and a lot of faith in Gunns vision. Especially since it seems like DC is seemingly so desperate for any success that they're gonna stay out of Gunns way.
Never underestimate Warner Bros ability to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.
I'll shit my pants if they manage to pull off the Jason Todd Redhood Storyline..
While I am hopeful about James Gunn’s DC Universe I am keeping all of my expectations low and not allowing myself to be “excited.” I learned a hard lesson with the release of Cyberpunk 2077. That release really taught me about managing my expectations and just waiting for the final project. He’s going to have to do something really special with the Superman film bc Hollywood as a whole is struggling. If it turns out good I won’t stop talking about it, but if it turns out bad…well I’ll just move on with my life.
I completely agree that Bruce trying to be a good father and mentor is one of the richest, most interesting parts to the Batman mythos that has yet to be explored. In fact, I think it's one of the lesser-explored parts of superhero films that we have yet to see.
We've seen plenty of superhero dads/moms that just want to protect their children, but what if your children (adopted or otherwise), are your proteges? Kids that have also been through incredibly horrific traumas and all, in their own ways, mirror some facet of their parental figure?
The Batfamily has so, so much potential to be explored in a heartfelt, emotional way that not only sheds some light on a Batman we haven't really yet seen on the big screen, but also spotlights all of the incredible characters that are paramount to the Batfamily and Bruce Wayne's development as a character. I really hope they bring as many Batkids on as possible and do each of them justice.
My personal hope is that Cass gets her due after her questionable depiction in Birds of Prey. Bruce trying to teach Damian to not be a little shit and being a loving mentor who tries his best to help Cass unlearn all of the militaristic behavior she was raised to follow would be so heartwarming to watch.
I think some people who criticize the slate have this closed idea about how things should work when it comes to superheroes, so everyone expected this MCU-like thing that would end up in a Justice League movie after several solo films of main superheroes, but here the plan seems to be even larger and more creative, which I can only compare to New Frontier or Kingdom Come.
Hope? Maybe yes. Especially the connection between Movies, TV Series and Games sounds very promising
But you can't deny all of this is a huge gamble
Creature commandos was such a surprise to me. They aren’t Justice league but I loved them because of how creepy and awesome they are. So seeing them get the tv show they deserve made me smile.
I like how James Gunn’s DCU drops us into an already established universe instead of restarting from scratch with a bunch of boring origin stories. People need to stop acting like the MCU way is the only way. It’s just the only way that worked so far. Plus, Iron Man, Thor and Captain America were virtually unknown to non comic book reading public, while everybody knows who Batman, Superman, Wonder Woman and Flash is, etc.
Exactly. For example, we don't need to wait 15 whole years for Dick Grayson to become Nightwing,
If batman is out of his prime in his first movie then I will be so dissapointed. I just want a batman the same age as superman so they can grow and develop alongside eachother. I also would have prefered if they showed us the batfamily forming instead if just pulling it out of thin air. Also James Gunn saying that the movie will focus on Damian worries me. Focusing on batmans replacement at the start of this cinematic universe just means that batman won't be in it for long. The mcu tried replacing all their big heros after endgame and everyone hated it I hope James Gunn doesn't start his universe by making the same misstake. I do want to clarify that I can be ok with an already formed batfamily as long as they make it good, my main concern is the age of batman. I want him to be in this prime. I also want to see him encounter some of his bigger villians for the first time. The words "older and more mature batman"worries me. It makes me think if batfleck. He was way out of his prime and close to retirement, he had already fought the joker and lost a robin. If that dceu had continued then that batman wouldn't have beem around for that long. If they make batman a little younger age then the animated show or the arkham games then I think it would be fine. He is in his prime but already has a batfamily. He would be able to keep up with the rest of the league without complaining about his back hurting or saying that he is to old for this.
Batman and Superman are rarely ever similar ages and Superman ages slower so he won't grow old when Batman does.
Also, the DCAU Batman is at least a decade older than DCAU Superman and those are the most iconic and beloved versions of those characters.
@@BaithNa Yeah but that batman doesn't complain about back pain and say he is to old for this shit
Think of it like this. Batman comes out like 4 years after Superman. So by the time they meet they’ll be around the same age
Hopefully the animated shows are Arcane levels of visual quality
This is my pitch take for DCU:
1. David Corenswet - Superman
2. Jake Gyllenhaal - Batman
3. Adria Arjona - Wonder Woman
4. Lucas Till - The Flash
5. Trevante Rhodes - Green Lantern
6. Ben Dahlhaus - Aquaman
7. Jamie Foxx - Martian Manhunter
8. Kyle Gallner - Green Arrow
9. Glen Powell - Booster Gold
10. Natalie Alyn Lind - Supergirl
I had to quickly check the release of this video because the flash was not all that.
we are really satisfying superman movie
Booster gold has the potential to be absolutely hilarious, both as a character and a show, whilst striking a cunning contrast of complex emotional maturity. A lot like with Peacemaker, which turned out to be an absolute blast which significantly surprised everybody with the level of depth of writing that explored Peacemaker and his teammates. Booster could also pose as the deadpool of the DCU, going forward, to distract the audience from the main overarching narrative. Aahghhgh i just can't wait to see this all come together I'm so pumped
I almost shed a tear listening the story about James Gunn walking into his father reading a comic book
The main concern for me and many other fans is the fact that we are seemingly getting an older Batman in his early 40s (41, 42, 43) and a Superman said to be in his mid 20s (24, 25, 26). The age difference in this situation is not very appealing when the two are supposed to be peers even though Batman has always seemed older.
So, I propose a Batman timeline so that we can get the experienced Batman that has gone through Robins to have his son as a 3rd or a 4th (Depending on Tim's inclusion), and is young enough to be a part of a 10 year plan as a man in his prime. Specifically, early to mid 30s (31 - 36). Here is my proposed timeline;
Bruce Wayne is 8 years old when Thomas and Martha Wayne are killed.
Ex - British Soldier/Spy Alfred Pennyworth becomes Bruce's legal guardian. This is when Bruce's training begins in truth.
Training Arc I: Alfred begins Bruce's training in order to give the boy an outlet and the means to protect himself while he continues his school education.
Training Year One - Bruce is 8/9
Training Year Two - Bruce is 9/10
Training Year Three - Bruce is 10/11
Training Year Four - Bruce is 11/12
Training Year Five - Bruce is 12/13
Training Arc II: Alfred and Bruce travel the world in order to take a brake from Gotham. Bruce continues his education and training while gaining additional Mentors when Alfred has to leave for Gotham periodically to tend to the Wayne Manor and Wayne Enterprises.
Training Year Six - Bruce is 13/14
Training Year Seven - Bruce is 14/15
Training Year Eight - Bruce is 15/16
Training Year Nine - Bruce is 16/17
Training Year Ten - Bruce is 17/18
Training Arc III: Bruce becomes an adult and parts from Alfred, the latter returning to Gotham. He gets a Collage degree, gains more mentors, and runs into Ra's, Talia, and The League of Shadows/Assassins.
Training Year Eleven - Bruce is 18/19
Training Year Twelve - Bruce is 19/20
Training Year Thirteen - Bruce is 20/21 (He takes a gap year. This is when he runs into Talia specifically and begins his affair with her, siring Damian).
Training Year Fourteen - Bruce is 21/22
Training Year Fifteen - Bruce is 22/23
End of the Training Arcs. Bruce returns to Gotham. He trains for 15 YEARS and has been gone from Gotham for 10 YEARS.
Batman Year One - Bruce is 23/24
Batman Year Two - Bruce is 24/25. Dick Grayson becomes the 1st Robin at 13/14.
Batman Year Seven - Bruce is 29/30. Dick is fired and becomes Nightwing at 18/19. Jason Todd is taken in to become the 2nd Robin at 13/14.
Batman Year Nine - Bruce is 31/32. Jason is killed by the Joker at 15/16. Tim Drake is taken in to become the 3rd Robin at 13/14.
Batman Year Eleven - Bruce is 33/34. Tim is 15/16. Talia brings Damian to meet his father at 13/14.
Batman Year Eleven is where the Brave and the Bold should take place. We have a Batman who has trained for 15 YEARS, 10 of it which he spends away from Gotham, and has an 11 YEARS worth of experience as Batman under his belt.
He sires Damian during his solo travels as a 20 something year old. All of the Robins take on the mantle at 13/14 which I think is the most reasonable minimum age for a live action Robin.
Dick would have been Robin for the longest out of everyone (Which it is how it should be) and has been Nightwing for sometime at this point.
You can Include Barbara as Batgirl and her transition to Oracle in anyway you like using this template.
Jason was killed at 15/16 and is resurrected a couple months later at the same age range which puts him at 17/18 during Brave and the Bold. This gives him enough time to grow and come back as the Red Hood down the line.
Also, I think that Superman should be in his late 20s (27, 28, 29) as well. And before people think that this is too old for the planned Superman, I urge them to remember the fact that their beloved Henry Cavill portrayed the Man of Steel in an origin movie where he hadn't even began his career in the Daily Planet at the age of 28. So the ages 27, 28, or 29 for a Superman who isn't having an origin and has been a reporter for a little while and is considered young would be no issue at all.
A Superman who is 28/29 to a Batman who is 33/34 is absolutely perfect.
And to those who think these ages might not work, remember that Chris Evans was 29 when he played Captain America for the first time and RDJ was 42 when he played Iron Man for the first time. They played their characters throughout a 10 year plan as well and I think nobody is complaining about the results.
Anyway, if you have come this far, thanks I guess 😂😅
Even if they cast a Bruce That's in his mid to late 30's-40's they can always blame it on the Lazarus pit. Not like the precedent isn't there.
@@maggot216 We'll see what they will do
One of my favorite parts of these announcements is that they seem to be all different and vary in genres. They are sounding all varied so it might be able to over come the super hero burnout
Gunn calling The Flash one of the best superhero movies ever made really kills a lot of my hope for this newest attempt at a DC universe
He doesn't mean it in the way you're thinking he meant it like the flash was a great to movie to reset the dceu into dcu so yea
last time a CEO roasted their own product, it ended up in them getting fired and the company almost going bankrupt
Can't say I'm as optimistic as you are about all these projects but some of them will probably be very good.
Allowing Reeves Batman and His new batman to Coexist shows such confidence and bravery in James.
I literally agree with everything you said. I’m so excited for the connectivity of this universe. #DCU
I can already see Gunn in a few years saying: "I am stepping down as co-Chairman and co-CEO of DC because of some shit reason that is definitely not related to the mismanagement, decisions and directions of those sitting on the high table of WB who doesn't know shit about comic books."
I already see a hole in Gunn's new DCU. Superman is gonna be younger while batman is older and already has a kid. I always thought Clark and Bruce as well as Damian and Jonathan were around the same ages
that's been ironed out. James said that his Superman will be only a few years younger, and if you read comics you'd know that Jon ages faster. He literally looks like an adult now in DC comics while Damian still looks 15
@@jxlennn oh I see… thank you for that. Gunn is sure pitching a good idea here. Let’s just hope and pray he writes a good story
@@kirkjaney1992 I hope so too
The first Batman and Superman team up in the new DCU by James Gunn BETTER be named ‘The World’s Finest’ as that’s one of the most iconic phrases ever.. like ever
I know right I'm glad we're getting a swamp thing movie led by James Gunn and possibly directed by James Mangold this is gonna be awesome but also I'm always gonna be extremely bitter that the amazing Swamp Thing tv show got cancelled and I'm always gonna hold a grudge against WB for cancelling it , I'm trying not to be bitter about it but it's hard not to 😂😅😭
The future Superman films should be filled with hope AAANNNDDD optimism... just like the Christopher Reeve Superman films. For example.....Reeve's Superman choked his evil twin to death in Superman 3. He killed Nuclear Man in Superman 4. He took Zod 's powers away, made him human, broke every bone in his hand, then threw him against the walls of the Fortress of Solitude as he sank to his icy grave in Superman 2's theatrical version. Critics didn't complain about Superman killing back then. We need more hope like when Reeve's Superman gave up being a hero in his second film, took away his own powers so he could sleep with Lois. I especially loved when he went to the diner at the end of Superman 2, and beat up a human truck driver when he got his powers back. He broke a pinball machine with that trucker's head. I loved when Reeve's Superman peeked through Lois' blouse and said "it's pink" in reference to her underwear. Not awkward at all if you brought your child to see the film or watch it with them on TV. Nothing fills me with more hope & optimism than watching Superman smile at the camera as John Williams theme plays even though 7 minutes prior to that we watched Lois sinking into the Earth while being crushed within her car as her mouth filled with dirt during her horrific death scene.
I think it makes sense for Swamp Thing to be separate for a while if he's just an obscure creature in a small community far away from Metropolis or any other place you'd usually find superheroes. It'll just physically be separated via distance
Gunn never said ST would be separate or Elseworld. He specifically said it was a different tone. Never once was it stated that Swamp Thing would be it's own continuity. I swear, people just hear what they want to hear lol.
@@Largentina. 29:23 This is what I was referencing, not Elseworld
@@Largentina. even I thought Gunn said totally instead on tonally 😂 I guess some just skipped over that entirely.
I love the weird stuff thrown in with the bigger well known superhero stuff. It reminds me of all the crazy spinoffs going on alongside the main character books during the whole "Countdown To Infinite Crisis" storyline. While the actual "Infinite Crisis" was just okay, the build-up had some of my favorite stories. Day Of Vengeance, Secret Six, The OMAC Project, Rann/Thanagar War. So many c-listers and d-listers get their moments to shine. It was a great time to be a DC fan
I'm just glad at least DC is doing what Marvel been lacking for years now;
A story that is good and can hold on its own cointained plot, instead of relying on set-up for crossovers and easter eggs of another heroes to be important, relevant, or have any value of being watchable, because the story and movie itself on its own is Mid.
There pelnty of marvel movoes that have contained plots and dont have easter eggs to be important. A film being watchable is subjective.
I just want a Martian Manhunter movie :(
I'll believe it when I see it. Warner Brothers has had a streak of making poor decisions lately, and I'm not yet ready to say James Gunn isn't one of them.
I would imagine Paradise Lost will have the origin of the Bana Mighdall Amazons (Red-haired Artemis’ tribe) and how they broke away from Themyscira via internal conflict over subservience to gods and other priorities. I’d love to see Wonder Woman’s clay origin perhaps at the end of the show too!
DCU projects which James Gunn should direct
Creature Commandos
Superman: Legacy
Booster Gold
I really wanna see court of owls in brave and the bold because you can lead into there monstrous side
We all already know whose gonna win the battle, and the team at bat won't be for long.
When it fails then I’ll come back to hear ur view
I'll wait and see what JG will do with this before I put any faith in him.
Zack Snyder did the god trying to be like humans with man of steel
It's funny that MCU dominated the Superhero Comic Book adaptations from 2008 to 2019 while DCEU was received mixed reviews from general audience. Now after Endgame, MCU has become a joke while DCEU began to redeem itself from its failures leading to Warner Bros hired James Gunn to run the new DC Cinematic Universe.
32:19 that didnt age well.
I’m all for a more comic accurate DC universe, that’s what DC needs
Keep up the great work, been watching your videos since the wandavision video, and continue to enjoy hearing your opinions because of how you back them up. I'm always thinking what you'll have to say after an MCU movie, keep it up man!
Thank you so much man! That means a lot.
@@FilmSpeak np. I also think it's so cool how you always see and respond to people's comments despite having so many. I just noticed you're approaching 100k subs so the fact you still read all the comments is really dope
Despite growing up with the MCU, I always preferred DC, which is something I rediscovered when I watched the DCAU in full for the first time as an adult.
This looks like DC is not only going be different from the MCU, but better than it in some ways.
I see a Cadmus Arc written all over this for some reason! Gunn said JLU Animated Series is a inspiration too.
possible superboy setup, could lead to a titans film
Same I see CADMUS being “everywhere”
I trust that James Gunn will make the DCU feel like the comic books
Marvel took risks. One of those risks was James Gunn and GotG. So enough with the “marvel is afraid to take risks.” Even the whole connected universe was one
Imagine for the batman trilogy in this universe, we made each film focused around a different robin and the relationship bruce has with them. The first movie is about finding damian and learning to raise his crazy psycho son, second movie could be under the red hood and batman could use what he learned from the first film to deal with jason being back and all that, then the last film we could have the battle for the cowl which could be such a cool story. We could have nightwing be a recurring main character in all the films so he gets mostly fleshed out and then more focused on in battle for the cowl as he struggles to be batman and we could have Tim be retired like in the comics during war games when due to his fathers wishes he stops to go study or whatever. So we know he exists and he could maybe show up once or twice but he doesn't come back full force until battle for the cowl where he comes back as red robin to try and search for batman and the focus could be split between his struggles and character arc and dicks with jason starting off as a redeemed red hood after the second films ending but slowly falling back into his darker methods when bruce is gone and he becomes one of the main villains in the film. It would be so tragic to see him fall throughout the film. It would also be cool to see dick and tim have two different mentalities and fight over if Bruce is dead or not. I don't know how batgirl fits into all of this but honestly we could just have her as oracle and be a recurring character through all three films. Then she could get her own solo movie or series as a prequel having her as batgirl and maybe we could get epic killer moth in live action lmao. I think having a film based around each robin (excluding dick cause he's been done a lot i guess) would be rly the only way to flesh out the bat family in a meaningful way that isn't rushed or bland.
As salty as I am that Gunn shafted so much of the existing DCU, it is a necessary step. And Gunn, as much as people want to flame him, hasn't produced a single dud yet, so I am going to wait and see and I hope this time, we don't get news that some asshole in the executives room forced him to rush something "cause they wanted their bonus".
I can't wait for the DCU! Such a great video! I think Gunn said Creature Commandos will take place in present day. It will feature Viola as Amanda Waller and will also have Rick Flag Sr. on the team. Rick Flag Sr. will also be making an appearance in the Waller series!
The first wonder woman movie explained why the Amazons exist. James Gunn needs to watch the damn movie
I hope Gal Gadot moves on. She could pull off the nicer side of Diana’s personality but she’s not a good actress. Not to mention Patty didn’t write the Wonder Woman world like the actual Wonder Woman mythos.
I know this is old now, but DC already has a gods and monsters story. Where Zod is Superman's father and Batman is a blood sucking vampire.
I really really hope they'll be FULL, LONG, series instead of short ones like, idk, Moon Knight that only has 6 episodes. We need episodes to build things up, know the characters, and to breathe, not just plot point after another.
In Gunn we trust (but also an animated series that finishes Zack Snyder's vision is NEEDED)
@edittzz4175 liar. Zack Snyder's vision was and WILL BE BETTER than anything James Gunn the suspected pedophile put out.
@Editxxxx I don't understand why he had to kick of the shared universe with an insanely convoluted fight between Batman vs Superman if he was building up to Superman taking the anti-life and fighting Batman again. What a shit plan!
@Editxxxx That doesn't make a difference. Why center BvS around them fighting when he was going to do it again a few films later with JL.
@Editxxxx Why does it matter if he's mind controlled? It's still Batman vs Superman again. The fact he is mind controlled lowers the stakes even more. It's not even a personal conflict, It's Transformers 5.
People want great story telling. If it was simply about them fighting BvS would have easily made a billion.
I'd argue it's Darksied people really want to see. Not a BvS rematch, especially given how bad the first fight was executed.
@Editxxxx BVS would have made a billion if BvS was received better.
General audiences are not that hard to please. Garbage like Aquaman made a billion after JL bombed.
I want a sequel to shazam with superman and black adam...you know both later character. One and one with less of an ego
This aged like milk
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My only problem with DCU is that they kicked out Henry Cavill, claiming that he would be too old for a 10 years plan, but then recast a 70 years old Michael Keaton...
Micheal Keaton for 1 movie only
And also Henry cavill is not playing superman but James Gunn confirmed that they r in talk with him for a different role in this universe which he is passionate about
I don't give a crap with James Gunn or his idea on changing DC. He sucks. He's no Stan Lee and never was.
I think they messed up the awsome Snyder cut with a possible Darkside vs Sups and TJL showdown. I don't feel the Hype James Gunn is spewing. I guess we dont have a choice now do we, we'll jut have to wait and see.
God I hope they recast Gal Godot. Having an actor who can't code her accent, forcing other actors to code their accents around her (the other Amazons), is just stupid.
I think the throughline of the Brave and the Bold as a series will be putting a spotlight on individual members of the Batfamily, paired up with Batman for a story
Yeah, no confidence in Gunn. How do you recruit a perfect Hal Jordan in Nathan Fillion, but cast him as Guy Gardner?
Same it really feels like a breath of fresh air and new life
Really looking forward to see what James and Peter do.
I'm glad he named his first Chapter. Tired of fans trying to shove "phase" on it.
Ah yes Gunn keeping his friends and wife's storylines and castings intact whilst redoing everything else sounds so good. Hell his Superman Film sounds so fresh and original. I can't wait for his universe to burn and crash
Sad how the marks aren't smart enough to see that and if they do they give zero fucks . Exposes them for how they really are in life .
People complaining about the reboot even though thats basically DC's whole thing have a universe reboot and keep whats working and get rid of whats not. Anyway this was the best decesion Gunn and Safran given the State of DC Films was at the time, starting over is the best path forward to give us quality DC films like we wanted.
If James can makes movies equal to the quality of the animated DC movies, then I have some hope.
October 3rd is my birthday so I’ll be 19 when Batman Part 2 comes out which is exciting
Couldn’t agree more! Gunns slate shows he actually cares about what the fans want to see.
In regards to Swamp Thing, they could use it as a way of introducing Animal Man, the way Scott Snyder did in his run, which was great.
Even better it could be used to to bring in John Constantine the Hellblazer (since Alan Moore first introduced Constantine in his Swamp Thing run).
There is already a black Superman. He is an alien, has a secret identity, flies, is superstrong and is called icon.