this is a great video to show others that floating hardwood flooring can be done. Most people think by gluing is the best method. It always depend on the flooring. It has to be flat and leveled. If not then plywood nailed to concrete is best or self leveling concrete can do the job. I would do the floating method. I have bamboo 9/16 x 3.25
Just a tip. With your miter saw, pull down then pull toward you. Not pulling out then pushing in. It insures a cleaner cut edge and easier flow. Great floring technique s tho i learned a lot!
can this "floating" installation method be done with any basic tongue and groove flooring (excluding clicking or locking types)? are there any disadvantages to laying the floor this way? thanks in advance.
Starting along one wall is not always the best approach. Sometimes an adjustment has to be made to make the floor look ‘square’ to the room if the walls are out.
Had the tongue and groove installed twice! the first time the installer didn't glue, according to the people who sold me the oak floors this caused planks to curve, the installer took my money and disappeared. The second time they glued it to avoid planks bouncing due to the curve. Still a bit bouncy so I give up but it improved by 50 percent maybe
3:47 how many thousands of boards did you practice on before you were able to cleanly apply glue to the entire board in three seconds? Nice even amount, no slop, no missed spots in three seconds flat. Right.
I have noticed that some people recommend you install the first row with the groove against the wall as you have done here, while others tell us to install the first row tongue-first. Does it matter really?
Honestly if you ask 15 different carpenters how to build a house you will get 15 different answers. And they will all be right. It doesn't matter how you go about most things as long as the ending is the same result. So no doesn't matter.
At 5:06 those seams seem pretty close. I would stagger more, either lengthwise or leave at least two runs between boards where ends are close (say, within 6 inches).
I initially tried to install my engineered oak floor without gluing, but the boards started to gradually separate, since having an expansion gap means there is no compression force from the edges of the room to keep them together. I ended up gluing them.
David Klein explains it toward the end of the video, use a pull bar and a hammer to tap it onto place. Don't use too much force or you'll leave too much of a gap between the wall and floor boards.
Hm. The floor I just ripped up was stapled into position. I'll have to pre-drill & nail each replacement board in (I don't know how to operate a flooring stapler), but I would think that a nailed-down floor would be much more stable & less likely to squeak, shift, etc.
WWZenaDo sometimes the nails make the squik noise in the floor when its mooving. on a good subfloor, floating floor is stable enough without glue or nails :)
Why the annoying music ???? no one comes here to listen to music !!! Also, the guy laying the floor did it backwards, he "planked" himself to a corner. You should start at a place where you don't have to walk over the planks to set the others. That means you have to wait for the glue to set before you walk on any planks you just laid. to install the final planks.A very bad tutorial indeed.
The quality of the music matters not. The obsessive insistance that it must be included that is unbearable. Most such videos defeat the purpose by believing people wish to be at a concernt when aiming at learning about flooring. Madness. Music suits ONLY to take attention away.
a beautiful floor in a small windowless perfectly square room.
Hahahah - best comment ever :)
Yeah, what’s the point? It didn’t solve any problems hahaha
Very informative video. The extra tools needed to make this a better job are a click-track and a tuner.
Much easier to DIY than most people think. thanks for sharing!
this is a great video to show others that floating hardwood flooring can be done. Most people think by gluing is the best method. It always depend on the flooring. It has to be flat and leveled. If not then plywood nailed to concrete is best or self leveling concrete can do the job. I would do the floating method.
I have bamboo 9/16 x 3.25
it took me three weeks to view the entire video due to the music, I could listen to the music short amount of times at once.
That was great...I am doing that this summer and was wondering how I was going to get started...looked very easy...great video
+thenocode72 The tough part he did not show which is sawing off under the door jambs
Just a tip. With your miter saw, pull down then pull toward you. Not pulling out then pushing in. It insures a cleaner cut edge and easier flow. Great floring technique s tho i learned a lot!
can this "floating" installation method be done with any basic tongue and groove flooring (excluding clicking or locking types)? are there any disadvantages to laying the floor this way? thanks in advance.
everyone hates the music but i love it!
What country do you live in?
Lmao
I think death metal would have been more appropriate.
Great video guys. Good luck with all your future projects
Good video. I have fitted normal laminate before but not engineered oak. Is this glued option easier or would you suggest the click option? Cheers pal
Very helpful. Many thanks.
Flooring looks great, very informative video
Starting along one wall is not always the best approach. Sometimes an adjustment has to be made to make the floor look ‘square’ to the room if the walls are out.
What will happen if you don't put glue in the tongue and groove of a engineered hardwood floating floor?
Had the tongue and groove installed twice! the first time the installer didn't glue, according to the people who sold me the oak floors this caused planks to curve, the installer took my money and disappeared. The second time they glued it to avoid planks bouncing due to the curve. Still a bit bouncy so I give up but it improved by 50 percent maybe
Thanks for that
that gap on the last plank on the first row really stands out.
Base boards going to cover it up
I don't get why some say glue and some say don't I'm talking about in the tongue and groove area not on the bottom
Im installing it on floor cyproc and the floor isn't perfectly leveled. Does 5-7mm going to show out when stepped on?
3:47 how many thousands of boards did you practice on before you were able to cleanly apply glue to the entire board in three seconds? Nice even amount, no slop, no missed spots in three seconds flat. Right.
I have noticed that some people recommend you install the first row with the groove against the wall as you have done here, while others tell us to install the first row tongue-first. Does it matter really?
Honestly if you ask 15 different carpenters how to build a house you will get 15 different answers. And they will all be right. It doesn't matter how you go about most things as long as the ending is the same result. So no doesn't matter.
@@tired3726 Thank you.
Great video. Thanks for posting.
I've seen many of these videos that say you have to check the moisture level of the concrete. But none say what to do if it's not in limits.
thank you for sharing.
Would I need to remove my skirting board before I lay my floor?
Ideally for best result yes, but you could use a 20mm x 20mm bead after, but take me seriously the end result wont look as good
Why do you use plywood as subflooe
At 5:06 those seams seem pretty close. I would stagger more, either lengthwise or leave at least two runs between boards where ends are close (say, within 6 inches).
How do you turn off the annoying music??
Sadly I suspect if I told you, you wouldn't have the skills to do it :)
The tough part he did not show which is sawing off under the door jambs
Not really use occilating tool scribe a line...takes time but that’s what it is
is the glueing essential? does it need done for thick solid wood flooring?
+Grant M No...gluing is a nuisance when repairing .
I initially tried to install my engineered oak floor without gluing, but the boards started to gradually separate, since having an expansion gap means there is no compression force from the edges of the room to keep them together. I ended up gluing them.
Not as much as the technique of gluing the who floor or having the board separate
Hi,do we really need glue while doing floating method even if it's tongue and groove flooring.
Yers if its not clip lock then definitely glue
Nobody Cuts would face down nobody needs to Mark a straight line unless your chop saw is crooked
I only wish that they could find a way to make those guitars more out of tune.
What happens if the floor moisture is too high?
You are doomed to a life of pain and regret.
@@Ineedahandle75 😂😂😂
Has anyone ever had problems with underfloor heating and this product...?
A try square or in this case a combination square. A set square is a plastic triangle
What's the glue you're using, please advise!
Thanks in advance!
PVA - cheap as chips, any builders merchant will have it
Supposed to be PVA cross-linked so it’s water resistant that way
So a floating floor still needs to be glued?
Missed getting straight starting line. Better to use latex glue so floor can be disassembled if need be.
You can cut whit no problems becouse you have scarting over it ..
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Not that bad what I thought
at 2:40 you dont explain how to get the tongue into the groove with an end piece.
David Klein explains it toward the end of the video, use a pull bar and a hammer to tap it onto place. Don't use too much force or you'll leave too much of a gap between the wall and floor boards.
Should have use blue tape to hold your boards together so they don't hydraulic and part and move
Didn't test for moisture didn't test relative humidity
Can anyone tell me how fill the gap around or what is the engineering behind that??
the problem is that hardwood is often bowed so gluing is not the best option imo
Uhm, why aren't the individual planks being nailed or stapled in place?
Because it's a floating floor.
Hm. The floor I just ripped up was stapled into position. I'll have to pre-drill & nail each replacement board in (I don't know how to operate a flooring stapler), but I would think that a nailed-down floor would be much more stable & less likely to squeak, shift, etc.
WWZenaDo sometimes the nails make the squik noise in the floor when its mooving. on a good subfloor, floating floor is stable enough without glue or nails :)
All right! That makes sense; thanks for the explanation.
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hahaha this video is very helpful but my that music almost made me quit watching it. lol
Good video but that music is a bid strange sorry
Is there any need to use secret nails ?
Music is very loud and annoying
Get a click system and dont bother with the glue
Click isn’t real wood, plus tongue and groove has a better finished look
could do without the music
speak for yourself I turned it LOUD and made a recording now I play it while putting my own floor in !
I also do other projects and play this music
Rob C lol
+Rob C Good man :) Like your style ;)
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Risky business using a Table saw while pushing the wood through with fingers
Whats the problem, you started with 10, and they self heel as long as there still attached :)
Never liked the table saw my self... seen to many kick backs, I’ll clamp a straight edge and use a circular saw if I can
You use a try square for woodwork and a set square for technical drawing.
some ppl use roofing paper for underlayment better and cheaper
Great video but the music is horrendous.
Dodgy music 🙉
Ya horrible music ..makes me want to pull my teeth and hair out
Why the annoying music ???? no one comes here to listen to music !!! Also, the guy laying the floor did it backwards, he "planked" himself to a corner. You should start at a place where you don't have to walk over the planks to set the others. That means you have to wait for the glue to set before you walk on any planks you just laid. to install the final planks.A very bad tutorial indeed.
Please lose the awful music! I could barely stand to watch the whole thing - and I need to watch it!
I agree
Needs more cowbell
Lol
Ted Todd are better 👍
The quality of the music matters not. The obsessive insistance that it must be included that is unbearable. Most such videos defeat the purpose by believing people wish to be at a concernt when aiming at learning about flooring. Madness. Music suits ONLY to take attention away.
This bloody music is awful....
Dude, lose the music