DIY Engineered Hardwood Flooring Install My Way! A to Z
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- Today I'm attacking a 2000 square foot basement flooring job! Some parts of this install went smooth as butter... others, not so much. Today I'm sharing everything I know about how to install engineered hardwood flooring. Shop my favourite flooring tools🇺🇸geni.us/5zDiW9 (Amazon) 🇨🇦: geni.us/xTgvkhD (Amazon)
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I love the raw real life stuff not being edited out. Good stuff.
Best to learn from someone else's mistakes. It keeps your head from frustration to see the fix!
It's not just home improvement. It's also life improvement!
I know you were super frustrated with that room transfer point, but seeing someone who is so competent at this also run into frustrating issues and having to redo stuff really helps me to feel comfortable with potentially doing this in the future! Thank you for working through it calmly (though I know you probably had a few choice words in mind haha).
Tell me about it. Cheers!
I heard paper felt roof paper prevents squeaks after time ??
I came here to say that same thing
How did you know I needed this dad? My wife and I both call you dad….. you have completely changed and made renovations a more graspable thing… thank you dad.
Happy to be of some help. Cheers!
Your wife calls Jeff daddy? Nice
@@saljablo2767 At least he has a wife, Sally 🤪
weirdo
I just want to give a heart felt thank you for all these A to Z tutorials you have made me feel like I can learn anything and made me a better man. I swear I will watch them all eventually.
Happy to share my experience. Cheers!
I KNOW it is so frustrating to pull up boards, but we need to see this to make us better at the work we do in our own homes and give us the confidence to try. We can make it perfect! THANK YOU!
You can do it! Number 1 rule!!! don't move forward until you are happy with what you just did. Cheers!
Oh my goodness this is just in time!! I am getting ready to put hardwood in my home.
I love watching your videos, I watch them all! You make it easy for this 60 year old FYI female to have the confidence to do any project around my home.
You can do it! Cheers Susan!
Never remove the bloopers! This stuff is gold!
Jeff for the vacuum check out the dustopper snaps onto a 5 gallon bucket and helps save your filter. And if you have a good HP shop vac can even run 2 for even better separation. Then you only have to snap the top off and dump your 5 gallon bucket. I take my setup a step further because I run a hepa filter and not cheap to replace so I also use the bag for the vacuum. I was doing a huge woodworking project with tons of sanding filter would clog very quickly without this setup. After I haven’t even filled 1 bag yet because most everything collects in the bucket. HD typically stock them.
i love when the comments are just as educational as the video
I love the splines. A small block plane in your tool box is a must! Shaves the spline sticking out nicely.
Thanks for the Great tip on the 30 degree angle cut for the last board at the wall. Never thought of that.👍
If you DO have potential for moisture problems, the Blue roll out mat with the foam mold resistant bottom is top notch. I believe it's called DMX. I used it on my in-laws basement 7 years ago, with 3/4 inch plywood, and that floor looks the same it did the day I put it in.
That transition cut was sweet!
cheers. the most important spot in the room.
Showing how to recover from mistakes is vital to a good DIY video. Also, I'd like to call out the editor who carefully deleted the "dead" moments as brief as they were throughout the video making it flow quickly thereby eliminating any tedium we viewers might get while watching. Excellent job! Thanks.
Great video. Thank you for showing the mistakes, and the solutions. That’s what makes this channel so honest and valuable.
Track saw would really help those long slight angle rips on a off angle wall. Great excuse to convince the wife you need a track saw !
You are amazing at handling screw ups ! I've worked with too many guys that start red faced throwing stuff around when dealing with issues on job, never mind on camera. Great job, thanks for vid.
Just for future reference. Acclimation time is only a guide line. You don't know if the wood is properly acclimated until you take moisture readings of the wood flooring and compare that with the relative humidity and temperature but of the room so the wood can reach it's EMC . Also installing flooring like this you should put a moisture barrier like aqua b.
Exactly what I was going to comment. This is exactly what no one cares about these days. And did he seal the concrete underneath?
Quick tip, on starting the line without waiting a day before u can install rest of the floor. Do the same thing, except gluing, get ur first board firmly screw to the floor and start installing rest of the room. Than unscrew straight edge, use reverse tongue and go other direction. This way u don't need to face nail ur finish plank and fill in holes.
When u finishing ur room, and can't use staple gun anymore, of course use glue, but still nail ur boards, through the tongue, same way as u use staple gun. And use floor jack, to tighten the boards together against the wall. Put some scrap boards against the wall, not to damage it. And then just face nail very last board, right where u install the base board, no holes fill. Base board will cover it.
another great way of doing it. Cheers!
Yeah, u could also lay paper down, to prevent squeaky floor, and also work as a vapor barrier. Usually sell it hardwood sections in HD
@@vladimirleontyev9399 Glue and paper don’t work together. Most installations of wide (7”) engineered flies require glue (proper floor adhesive, not PL) and staples. You won’t get squeaking floors w adhesive.
Thank you. Love the project. Since I am renovating my home mostly alone this is just what I needed. Appreciate your humor
We installed LVP throughout our home. We actually do like it ,especially considering what the floor looked like before. However......my wife and I have both agreed that we wished we had at least installed engineered hardwood as it just has a better feel and look. To be honest, the cost is what made our decision. With all the cost of a full renovation, it gets really expensive real qwick. Had we just had a floor to renovate, without question, we would have chosen engineered hardwood if not actual hardwood. Thanks for the video!
Glad to hear a professional paranoid around PL glue.
we all should be. that stuff can destroy a job. Cheers!
Glad to see the pro makes mistakes, not gloating, glad that you do it too.👍and you can show me how to fix without throwing the gun.
Use a router and spline to connect that threshold to your floor. Also why no tar paper under the floor?
Your joints are too close and you're not using enough staples. Come on bro you're killing me. You gotta get underneath the door jams
Cut the spline on the table saw before you cram it in there to make your life a lot easier
Jeff, I would like to put hard wood in but we will be doing laminate of some sort. Great video on engineered wood. Honestly I appreciate you working through tough cuts and mistakes as I am sure mose people here. You make it real for all of us and that is a credit to your teaching style. Thank you!
Moral of the story for all the people that think they know what they’re doing and they make mistakes. Just take your time measure twice cut once do it right the first time or don’t do it at all. This is one of the few TH-camrs that show you how to do it the right way, and if he makes mistakes, he shows you how to fix them and do it right
I yelled at the tv "it's not flush" 😫 but it's good to see how to remove and that folks make mistakes. Great video
LOL. I was too. Cheers!
Great tip on avoiding Tapcons or other existing fasteners!
Cheers!
Again nice job👍 I've done 1500 sq ft of 3/4" various widths . It's not easy but turned out great. Saved thousands for sure. 😁
I could honestly watch you do this floor all day. Just a master craftsman at work... thanks!
Hardwood in a basement? The owners must’ve gone MAD! 😂 I randomly stumbled upon this channel and I’ve been binge watching videos all day
This channel will come in handy when I get to DIY projects in my soon to be home
Really appreciate showing all the “mess ups” because lord know if you’re doing them, so will I 😂. Now I know what to do if/when it happens to more… and what to try to avoid
6:46 years ago I installed pre-finished bamboo floors with a similar adhesive. Same thing about there being nothing to remove it on the finished surface once it dries. It was so frustrating to work with and we ended up with several little drips or finger prints in the adhesive. Of all things, we managed to get it all off using those MrClean Magic Erasers and a ton of elbow grease! It did slightly buff the finish to a different shine, but it was so fine that with a little polishing/cleaning we managed to hide 99% of all visible differences. Worked better than a fine sandpaper. Not saying you should do this, but as a last result - it did work for us.
You rock man. It's hard for me to say but you have Bob Villa beat.
Cheers Steve!
Man!! You have the patience of a saint!
Awesome work awesome personality.
Love the videos
Get a new blade on your chop saw it won’t cut those 45 degree angles leaving chips in wood. Your blade is smoking. Also why is there so much stair pattern in the layout?
S__t happens, as long as you keep your integrity and go back and fix it. Patience!. Believe it or not I enjoy laying a floor. As long as I am not in a hurry I find it relaxing.
For those watching, I want to preface my comments with the following :
1. I love Jeff and think he brings a great set of knowledge and skills to the DIYer. I have watched a ton of his videos and respected him for putting his work out for all to see and make comments on.
2. I have been a professional flooring installer for 20+ years
I noticed in your installation that you made two common mistakes.
1. You installed in a stair step or stair case manner. This makes the floors pattern look very repetitive or, at least, you can tell how you ran the floor. You should always make sure you stair step no more than two consecutive rows and break the stair step with a longer board
2. Where your short ends are on each board should be spaced no closer than the width of the board you're using. There are quite a few places in this install that have the end of one board only 2-3 from the end of the row in front of it. This is for two reasons, 1. Esthetically, it looks much better when spaced further appart, 2. Structually, the closer two ends are to each other, the more likelihood of gaps opening up precisely where that occurs.
I'm kinda glad he had those issues because it shows he's human even though he knows everything about every trade
For the vacuum, get a cyclone attachment (Dust Deputy etc) and this will take over 90% of the stuff out of the equation before hitting the vacuum itself. Add a drywall filter bag into the mix and you end up with a combination that maintains flow and is easy to keep clean. I have a HEPA filter on the vacuum, and any dust that escapes the cyclone and gets past the filter bag will get trapped.
I'm a licensed electrician. I don't believe in this video but in others I've seen you talk about the codes of other trades and to not fuck the next guy or make his job harder. Lots of respect for that bud. Very neat channel. Subscribe earned!
Also you don't edit your show to not show mistakes. Love your attitude!
Springfield, Ma
Between you & the excellent laborer, I’ve learned a lot & I’ve been able to actually put some work in and get great results
Great video Jeff ...as always you da best ❤️👍
Glad you enjoyed it. Cheers!
Appreciate your hard work and effort to teach!! Salute
Loved the intro!! :)
Cheers I appreciate the feedback!
In any application, especially a basement you need some perimeter expansion gap...... using PL400 is a no, it hardens too much, you need an elastomeric adhesive that never hardens.... I would also tack the flooring with a wet sponge so the proper adhesive can really bond to the substrate. Other than that, nicely done.
Get the Dustopper / or a Dust Deputy,((or make your own centrifugal dust separator "cyclone" bucket)) AND use the vacuum with a good bag and fine dust filter, , and get the floor attachment with brushes on it for the vacuum. You'll vacuum out cement bags with a clean filter and a faster removal of the dust on the flor at the end. No brooming and throwing dust in the air or killing vacuums
Stair stepping in the thumbnail lol
Really enjoyed this video
I was so scared that nail was going to shoot out while you had that gun pointed toward yourself!! I know what you are doing, but it still made me nervous. lol :)
great video with excellent worker, really useful. THANK YOU
"Oh, YOU did this." versus "Whoa, you DID this?"... Priceless. (around @33:40)
Thanks for explaining which way wood expands.And the trick with the pocket door! I wouldn’t have thought of that. Thank you also for the reminder that nothing is square and you’re always going to have to be figuring things out on the fly.
One thing that I've always heard, let the boxes of new flooring sit in the room for a day or two. This acclimates the new flooring to the interior temperature and humidity before installation and minimizes future expansion and contraction.
I went with 1 week on this project just because I had way too much wood stored in 1 space. Cheers!
I really needed this video Thanks 👍🏾
28:28 After watching Jeff fix mistake after mistake, I must admit that, "Here's my next trick!" had me laughing!
A sharp chisel or mini-plane, works better than your utility knife for modifying the tongue or groove sides.
First timer here...I’m doing a floating engineered hardware install in a small condo bedroom. To start, my longest wall is across from the bedroom door and is also where I need to rip the boards skinnier to avoid skinnier boards in front of the bedroom door. Can you foresee any problems, or share advice for starting your first row with ripped skinnier boards?
another great video!! thnaks a lot!!
Cheers!
Now I don’t feel so bad that I once put 18ga nails in my 16ga nailer. (They we’re out of the box in a drawer and I thought they were 16ga.) Cheers Jeff!
life happens. Cheers!
Too many forget this cheap and "life-saving" element when they install hardwood floors where there are living spaces underneath. (I know, this is a basement and can be the exception)
When you install hardwood floors directly on plywood, concrete, etc., then ALWAYS roll out a thin layer of insulation/sound reduction (one made for this purpose!) between the wood/concrete under the floor and the new floor, and always, always when you have living space underneath.
It will reduce the sound from every single step or any movement directly on the floor in the room AND the sounds from talking, singing, crying, the TV, or any sound/noise will be a lot louder for the people in the rooms underneath without this thin, cheap element.
I've tried to live in an apartment for a few months, where the family above me had (hard)wood floors, which were laid without any form of sound reduction, and never, ever will I be in that situation OR bring anyone else in that situation! (This family was so nice, all of them, and I never blamed them, but I just could not live with so much noise!)
At least NOT without doing all I can to reduce the sounds from the upstairs rooms with hardwood floors, and the best part is, it's a one-time very cheap investment, as (hard)wood floors can last for decades, also in families with active children, pets, etc. and they are very easy to clean, can look a lot better and for sure also are better for our health than wall to wall carpets.
I been getting ton of smoke from my miter saw until I bought I new blade. Oh man what a difference..like butter
A good blade is what makes it safe. dull blades and knives are when accidents happen. Cheers!
Looks great
Thanks!
I had a Craftsman pin nailer that jammed up so much I had to toss it. I use a DeWalt 18 gauge gun now even though it is huge.
Id love to see a video about wood flooring on a concrete slab
Never mind
THANK YOU!
Disposable plastic shower caps to slip over shoes ... pkg of 10 @ $1.25 at Dollar Tree. They work ...
Can't find the video you mentioned you were going to "link below" of the preparation of the floor
LoL. Question... Do You Tubers walk around all day long, talking to themselves in everything they do ? LoL. Thanks for your vids, they're invaluable. I've had young helpers watch you work so they know how to act and get along on a job.
1:10 .. in vid… that’s y there’s plastic to cover the floor 😂😂😂😂.. saves time n wood floor sticks better cus there ain’t no dirt or dust..👍🤦
Great video Jeff. When is the next live? I'm a**hole deep in remodeling the house I just closed on and I can't wait to send in pictures!
setting the date soon. check the banner on the channel for updates. Cheers!
Pretty good video. The only thing missing was your Bob Villa style outro.
I didn't know that was a thing. Cheers i will have to check that out.
I would have glued the first row and hand nail it in place then staple pre drill the holes for the finish nails in the tongue
You have spray paint in Canada?? I thought that stuff couldn't be imported! The videos are great! But help me learn more, spray paint?!?
Oh also! Is the laser level special for flooring or one that could be used for kitchen cabinet levelling as well? I think it’s the one tool don’t listed lol thanks again!
I love when Canadians and Frenchies have beef
"Vinyl is all the rage. It's cheaper."
Yeah. And it's waterproof and doesn't have growth and shrinkage with any ambient moisture and humidity. 🤷♂️
Also, are you not at all concerned about your knees? They have some pretty cool looking pads for considerably less than knee surgery....
vinyl may be the rage but hardwood is a better quality flooring. Cheers!
Always hardwood over anything
Done nice because its done twice.
sometimes that is exactly what happens. Cheers!
I'm wondering why the walls were not painted before the flooring is installed???
I appreciate the video! Trying to check out your cdn Amazon and Home Depot links but both are dead
Say Jeff. You weren't able to cut the bottom of door jamb for the flooring to slip under so u don't have v to butt them?
I wish you would give us a view of the final product.
That is coming soon.
Why didn't you put the vapor barrier? and in case you do, how do you put the glow against the VB?
It sounds like you may need to replace the bumper on your flooring nailer. Our Bostitch was having the same issues a couple weeks ago. Cheers!
He doesn't, because it's rental remember.
I actually had to replace it as it stopped working. You can see the grease coming out of the top. It had done too many floors by that point for sure. Cheers!
Floor insulation … currently have hardwood floors on an addition to the house and it’s on concrete slab. Looking for idea to minimize the cold draft from the floors and what I can do to help the freezing floors. 10-15 degree difference from main part of house.
Help, please. First, thanks for showing it's great help. Now my house has builder installed glued hardwood and previous owner installed floating hardwood on top of it. Due to this, all door trim got cut off to fit, so if we remove all hardwood, then door trim will have a huge gap. How can we fix it since we wanted to remove both layers of wood. Any advice
Your step down board length seems to short for each following plank. 6" to 8" minimum might look better.
Is pointing with the middle finger a Canadian thing?
Hello Jeff can I install engineered hardwood in my basement with out glue and also I have a small area that is 1/8" unlevel. can I use a thicker underlay to take that problem away
Appears engineered hardwood patterns do not repeat. With laminate I have 3 open boxes and rotate each piece from a different box to prevent a noticeable repeated pattern.
hardwood is actual wood and not a picture. Cheers!
41:57 - I just said to myself "that bade is really dull".
right!
if money was not a problem, would you go heated tile in the basement or this type of flooring ?
As someone should have tought Alec Baldwin "Load your own gun and know you have the right ammunition for the job" 😅😂
Hi Jeff, I'm a fan of your informative videos. I am a subscriber and shop at your Amazon store to support. I have engineered wood glued on slab. It has developed gaps that are 1/8th of an inch and larger. Could you please let me know how to fix it? Lots of videos are about just moving the pieces but that is not an option because my home floor is glued to the slab. Thanks for your help.❤
Why are you not using an underlayment?
What if the basement floor gets wet in 15 years from a plumbing leak, failed water heater, appliance leak or a drain back-up? I like your flooring concept for that basement but most basements get some water some time. I'll have to find a different floor system for my new basement, one that's either serviceable or less labor/cost to replace.
My issue with this floor is how close your pattern is with thevllr. Especially towards the transition looks like it's only 3 inch difference in the rows.
when you get a great deal on flooring you probably have only 4 sizes of wood and when you get 3 small sizes and they are repetitive you will always have issues with the spacing. Cheers! Once it is all down you don't see it as long as you break it up once in a while with a long one.
I also have an issue with the butt end of boards being so close. Its a no no in the installation by the nwfa. The distance of the space should be no less the width of the board. I do enjoy the video and applaud the help for home owners
You get what you pay for. A real pro would charge more and this wouldn’t happen
Don't have a house but here I am 😅
Great video !! What size staples or nails are you using with the nailer ? I’m doing 3/4 in engineered and 15.5 gauge staples but it’s splitting the tongue and seems too much or too powerful !
But are there differences between hardwood and engineered hardwood splines? Only splines I could find is thicker that my joint.
What is the color of your flooring? Love it