Lloyd, I like your video broadcast set up, from what I can see of it. Looks quite posh. How did you know how to set it all up like you have? Who tutored you?
Glad you posted this because I just commented on your last Vietnam blog "You cant ride scooters on AU and US licenses in Vietnam (even with a motorbike endorsement) , there is no international permit treaty for AU and US citizens with Vietnam! If you do ride and have an accident you are in trouble, because your travel insurance will be void for riding unlicensed and without authority so will be deemed by Viet law as at fault for any accident even if you are not at fault. People should be aware of this fact. Everyone actually needs an international permit and a bike license to ride a scooter in SE Asia except some from other SE Asian countries. Anyone riding a scooter unlicenced or without an International driving permit have rocks in their heads and bloggers should be fully aware of this..
Something to add is that if you have a temporary residence card and you have an Aussie motorbike licence, it's straightforward to get a Vietnamese licence. But yes, as you say, Aussie travellers aren't eligible to legally ride.
I met a fellow photographer in a Bangkok backpackers in the early 90’s who was publishing a book of images of deaths on the roads of Bangkok. The book was called “The Roads That Ate Bangkok” The book was produced to raise awareness by government roads and town planning departments. He told me the death toll in Bangkok city alone was one person every 5-8 minutes!!! I have a horror story of riding a motor bike in Chang Mai as well and let’s say I was one Lonely Planet book away from going to the Bangkok Hilton! Enjoy paradise 👏👏
We were also motorbiking. No problem at all. Admitted-I drove always way too fast, overtaking cars, lorrys a lot. Very good roads, not like in the West. Be aware, stimes there might be pot holes, did not find them there, central Thailand. Big mistake, did not know the side stand not coming back automatically, but the Thai yelled and I was very, very grateful for this! But in villages I drove very slowly. During a long-haul bus ride I was witnessing an accident, 'cause the bus was way too fast in the curve, hitting 2 down on a mb. Scull broken, both unconscious.
My brother died when a car hit him on a ‘borrowed’ scooter. Car turned in front of him. He was 26. It was 1983. Chch. NZ. I’m 64 now. I still miss my big brother and Mum (89) still misses her boy. Dad said if he’d been on a more powerful bike he might have accelerated out of harm’s way. He had been a super kart racer and had owned bigger more powerful bikes for years. Scooters aren’t powerful enough to get out of trouble. He died from a ruptured aorta. It was instant and we were pleased he didn’t end up dribbling in a wheelchair, with brain damage. My only son would love to ride a motorbike but OVER MY DEAD BODY!
Wow! That’s pretty scary. I’m glad you are taking in all the facts and becoming knowledgeable about motor bikes. Things change when there is another being that you need to be responsible for. Good on you. Happy travels. 😊
We were also motorbiking. No problem at all. Admitted-I drove always way too fast, overtaking cars, lorrys a lot. Very good roads, not like in the West. Be aware, stimes there might be pot holes, did not find them there, central Thailand. Big mistake, did not know the side stand not coming back automatically, but the Thai yelled and I was very, very grateful for this! But in villages I drove very slowly. During a long-haul bus ride I was witnessing an accident, 'cause the bus was way too fast in the curve, hitting 2 down on a mb. Scull broken, both unconscious.
Scary enough riding a motorbike in Australia. It’s deceptive riding in SE Asia though. People ride/drive slowly and there doesn’t seem much aggro. Yeah no helmets, and co-operative riders , plus it’s just way too hot. But oh dear……. My Cambodian partner had a little crash yesterday on her Moto. She carries her little dog in between her feet. Naturally the dog tumbled off and got a little injured. He’ll be ok though. And she was unscathed. She learned something - but she can’t afford a car or tuk-tuk everywhere…. So she’ll continue doing what she’s doing cos she kinda has too.
Wout helmet forbidden in Thailand. We were also motorbiking. No problem at all. Admitted-I drove always way too fast, overtaking cars, lorrys a lot. Very good roads, not like in the West. Be aware, stimes there might be pot holes, did not find them there, central Thailand. Big mistake, did not know the side stand not coming back automatically, but the Thai yelled and I was very, very grateful for this! But in villages I drove very slowly. During a long-haul bus ride I was witnessing an accident, 'cause the bus was way too fast in the curve, hitting 2 down on a mb. Scull broken, both unconscious.
I think another thing to lower your risk is to not drink and drive but stay off the roads at night. I also think getting a car is a great solution for your new family
blew me away how many tourists were driving motorbikes in flip flops, shorts and no helmets. Absolutely insane if you ask me regardless of how good of a rider you are in your own country where you're familiar with the road rules... Not to mention the guys that have never driven one in their lives. Madness.
Lloyd - yes there are so many pointless deaths on Thai roads. I spend a lot of time in Hua Hin (I was there a week ago) and own a 125 Yamaha scooter. Around HH and when I'm also in Chiang Mai I feel very safe on the road - the same could not be said about riding in Bangkok. Last year I got my Thai license and at least now, I have some understanding of the road rules. It took a stack of documents, a reflex and colour test, five hours of videos, an online test (49/50) and a riding test on a course. Parking in Market Village is an interesting experience - always need to a photo to remember where I parked my bike.
Not sure about the 15k/year number but I've known a few people (sister in-law etc) & EACH major hospital has DOZENS of motorcycle accident victims both alive and otherwise (not as many but some) EVERY SINGLE DAY 😮😮😮
When I was in Thailand I seen two separate motorbike accidents on the busy main road. Ppl were carried off the street after it happened and we drove by them. Another time it happened when I was getting a Tuk-Tuk ride to the airport, and asked driver what was going on and they said a motorbike accident happened.
We have been to Thailand and have seen so many bike accidents, we watched a bike get hit by a car and somersault in front of us.We were on a bike first time,rented it 5minutes before.We just turned around and took the bike back.Vietnam came across a triple fatality and they were locals.Bali is sooo dangerous. If you don't ride a bike in Australia.You have no business being on a bike.
We were also motorbiking. No problem at all. Admitted-I drove always way too fast, overtaking cars, lorrys a lot. Very good roads, not like in the West. Be aware, stimes there might be pot holes, did not find them there, central Thailand. Big mistake, did not know the side stand not coming back automatically, but the Thai yelled and I was very, very grateful for this! But in villages I drove very slowly. During a long-haul bus ride I was witnessing an accident, 'cause the bus was way too fast in the curve, hitting 2 down on a mb. Scull broken, both unconscious.
They have check points in Alaska during holidays because ppl tend to party more and drunk drive but the general public will call 911 and turn drunk drivers in.
I worked at the Pantip Market in Koh Phangan and it was alarming the amount of injured people that I saw on a regular basis. Even had a colleague get flown by helicopter to Bangkok from one of the islands bc his injury was so serious. He ended up getting flown back to the UK for surgery bc his family didnt know how the surgery would go in Thailand.
I started riding a motorbike when I was 13 years old in bush Alaska then got my motor bike drivers license when I was 18 then later got a vehicle drivers license when I was 21 years old.
Little kids even drive 3 wheelers, 4 wheelers and motorcycles and a lot of kids got pilot licenses before turning 18, because majority of the. Ppl have to travel by air in Alaska. My friends dad use to take her out of school when she was 13 to fly his plane because he had an ear balance issue. Lol. She got her pilot license when she was 16 and bought a super cub when she was 18 years old.
I wish all tourists considered the risks. Amazing the number of people with little or no bike riding experience decide being on holiday makes them bulletproof. It’s not only themselves they put at risk but the people around them.
Hey Lloyd. Very true re the risks. We ride and have ridden many kms throughout Thailand...we always say "just don't hit anyone" and have spider eyes. Btw, where did you get your helmet? We will be in HH end of the month. Stay safe.
Thank you for rethinking the scooters in Thailand. I wondered when you’d hear about this? My brother and his Thai wife have a very nice house there. There’s more to the scooter story. It’s actually kind of disgusting. Stick with a car and baby seat. How much fun would it be to do an online baby shower? I just wonder if they have baby car seats there? You two must be very excited. I’m glad you did your research, but there’s more to it. You may never want to ride a scooter there again. LOL! Dig deeper! Take good care! Your baby is going to be beautiful! ❤
Moreover, during Songkran and New Year we also have 7 dangerous days too. We count every accidents...Actually, it's not scary. But the Ministry of Public Health reports 100%...
You said baby lloyd is it going to be a boy yahoo! Good thinking on the safety factor i ride everyday and safety is all im thinking about the mirrors are you best friend even though your blinker is on to turn right as you turn sometimes they still pass on the right.
Thank you for your time and posting. Did you know over 13,000 people die in the US each year due to drunk drivers? ;) I'm checking out VN soon to maybe retire. :) Hope... Hope... Hope...
The driving skills are massively to blame for the accidents! Passing on the left is such a BIG reason.. and terrible car driving.. I’ve ridden bikes for 40 years and I’d never ride here.. just look at the driving lessons and the ridiculous test!
Buy a SUV. Safer. U ride on the back lanes. Those small SOI are the ones where a vehicle shoots out from don't know where !!! Careful and stay safe. Cheers
And, I am always horrified when seeing the children on bikes with their parents and not wearing helmets. Taiwan is finally becoming more aware of such safety measures. But, Yes! Bangkok was was horrible!
In thai we said about motorcycle like “ to use our flesh cover the steel” . That mean if some accident happen, we have to use our body for protecting the bike😂 But with the car , the steel will cover our flesh You don’t have to do anything wrong to get some accident, just be at a wrong place in a wrong time😅.
I drive a taxicab in Vegas. I know all too well the stupid stuff people do. We have the highest auto insurance rates in the USA here in Las Vegas. Trust none. Assumed everyone is an incompetent, dangerous fool.
I don't mean to be one of those doomers/moaners: you're going to want a car for when the baby comes anyway, so (IMO) you may as well get one now and significantly lower the danger to a preggers Mandy. A helmet won't help the baby much if she were to get knocked off! A car would be worth it for the peace-of-mind at the *very* least. Source: recently travelled SE Asia with a 7 month old. Was also knocked off a bike in Vietnam by a madman a few years ago.
The stats are worse in Bali, Mates. Filling stations look so ramshackle in both. >>> Lloyd, seriously ... PLEASE do not operate any motor vehicle unless you are fully qualified to do so, anywhere. You can never get away with what you think you can. NO ONE CAN.
Those two Kiwis (New Zealanders for those people who do not already know) who fought the Thai coppers, likely were pure blooded Māoris. Little else would explain their combativeness. I could be wrong, however. So, one of the brothers was allegedly an MMA fighter? Yeah, quelle surprise, hey? Lloyd, Mandy should not ride a motorbike at all whilst pregnant. Crashes will damage an unborn foetus even if anyone is wearing a helmet. Come on, now! You know better than not to think of contingencies.
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Lloyd, I like your video broadcast set up, from what I can see of it.
Looks quite posh.
How did you know how to set it all up like you have?
Who tutored you?
Glad you posted this because I just commented on your last Vietnam blog "You cant ride scooters on AU and US licenses in Vietnam (even with a motorbike endorsement) , there is no international permit treaty for AU and US citizens with Vietnam! If you do ride and have an accident you are in trouble, because your travel insurance will be void for riding unlicensed and without authority so will be deemed by Viet law as at fault for any accident even if you are not at fault. People should be aware of this fact. Everyone actually needs an international permit and a bike license to ride a scooter in SE Asia except some from other SE Asian countries. Anyone riding a scooter unlicenced or without an International driving permit have rocks in their heads and bloggers should be fully aware of this..
Something to add is that if you have a temporary residence card and you have an Aussie motorbike licence, it's straightforward to get a Vietnamese licence. But yes, as you say, Aussie travellers aren't eligible to legally ride.
I met a fellow photographer in a Bangkok backpackers in the early 90’s who was publishing a book of images of deaths on the roads of Bangkok. The book was called “The Roads That Ate Bangkok” The book was produced to raise awareness by government roads and town planning departments. He told me the death toll in Bangkok city alone was one person every 5-8 minutes!!! I have a horror story of riding a motor bike in Chang Mai as well and let’s say I was one Lonely Planet book away from going to the Bangkok Hilton! Enjoy paradise 👏👏
We were also motorbiking. No problem at all. Admitted-I drove always way too fast, overtaking cars, lorrys a lot. Very good roads, not like in the West. Be aware, stimes there might be pot holes, did not find them there, central Thailand. Big mistake, did not know the side stand not coming back automatically, but the Thai yelled and I was very, very grateful for this! But in villages I drove very slowly. During a long-haul bus ride I was witnessing an accident, 'cause the bus was way too fast in the curve, hitting 2 down on a mb. Scull broken, both unconscious.
My brother died when a car hit him on a ‘borrowed’ scooter. Car turned in front of him. He was 26. It was 1983. Chch. NZ. I’m 64 now. I still miss my big brother and Mum (89) still misses her boy. Dad said if he’d been on a more powerful bike he might have accelerated out of harm’s way. He had been a super kart racer and had owned bigger more powerful bikes for years. Scooters aren’t powerful enough to get out of trouble. He died from a ruptured aorta. It was instant and we were pleased he didn’t end up dribbling in a wheelchair, with brain damage. My only son would love to ride a motorbike but OVER MY DEAD BODY!
Wow! That’s pretty scary. I’m glad you are taking in all the facts and becoming knowledgeable about motor bikes. Things change when there is another being that you need to be responsible for. Good on you. Happy travels. 😊
We were also motorbiking. No problem at all. Admitted-I drove always way too fast, overtaking cars, lorrys a lot. Very good roads, not like in the West. Be aware, stimes there might be pot holes, did not find them there, central Thailand. Big mistake, did not know the side stand not coming back automatically, but the Thai yelled and I was very, very grateful for this! But in villages I drove very slowly. During a long-haul bus ride I was witnessing an accident, 'cause the bus was way too fast in the curve, hitting 2 down on a mb. Scull broken, both unconscious.
Been there and I love riding a scooter. Glad you are looking at other options with the little one on her way. Great vid Lloyd. Cheers!
Scary enough riding a motorbike in Australia. It’s deceptive riding in SE Asia though. People ride/drive slowly and there doesn’t seem much aggro. Yeah no helmets, and co-operative riders , plus it’s just way too hot. But oh dear…….
My Cambodian partner had a little crash yesterday on her Moto. She carries her little dog in between her feet. Naturally the dog tumbled off and got a little injured. He’ll be ok though. And she was unscathed. She learned something - but she can’t afford a car or tuk-tuk everywhere…. So she’ll continue doing what she’s doing cos she kinda has too.
Wout helmet forbidden in Thailand. We were also motorbiking. No problem at all. Admitted-I drove always way too fast, overtaking cars, lorrys a lot. Very good roads, not like in the West. Be aware, stimes there might be pot holes, did not find them there, central Thailand. Big mistake, did not know the side stand not coming back automatically, but the Thai yelled and I was very, very grateful for this! But in villages I drove very slowly. During a long-haul bus ride I was witnessing an accident, 'cause the bus was way too fast in the curve, hitting 2 down on a mb. Scull broken, both unconscious.
I think another thing to lower your risk is to not drink and drive but stay off the roads at night.
I also think getting a car is a great solution for your new family
Totally agreed. Most of the accidents in Thailand caused by drunk driving.
blew me away how many tourists were driving motorbikes in flip flops, shorts and no helmets. Absolutely insane if you ask me regardless of how good of a rider you are in your own country where you're familiar with the road rules... Not to mention the guys that have never driven one in their lives. Madness.
Lloyd - yes there are so many pointless deaths on Thai roads. I spend a lot of time in Hua Hin (I was there a week ago) and own a 125 Yamaha scooter. Around HH and when I'm also in Chiang Mai I feel very safe on the road - the same could not be said about riding in Bangkok. Last year I got my Thai license and at least now, I have some understanding of the road rules. It took a stack of documents, a reflex and colour test, five hours of videos, an online test (49/50) and a riding test on a course. Parking in Market Village is an interesting experience - always need to a photo to remember where I parked my bike.
Could u pass the exam in English? Difficult?
To be honest it wasn’t easy - some really odd questions - sometimes you need to think like a Thai
As I said, still managed to score a 49/50
Not sure about the 15k/year number but I've known a few people (sister in-law etc) & EACH major hospital has DOZENS of motorcycle accident victims both alive and otherwise (not as many but some) EVERY SINGLE DAY 😮😮😮
When I was in Thailand I seen two separate motorbike accidents on the busy main road. Ppl were carried off the street after it happened and we drove by them. Another time it happened when I was getting a Tuk-Tuk ride to the airport, and asked driver what was going on and they said a motorbike accident happened.
We have been to Thailand and have seen so many bike accidents, we watched a bike get hit by a car and somersault in front of us.We were on a bike first time,rented it 5minutes before.We just turned around and took the bike back.Vietnam came across a triple fatality and they were locals.Bali is sooo dangerous. If you don't ride a bike in Australia.You have no business being on a bike.
We were also motorbiking. No problem at all. Admitted-I drove always way too fast, overtaking cars, lorrys a lot. Very good roads, not like in the West. Be aware, stimes there might be pot holes, did not find them there, central Thailand. Big mistake, did not know the side stand not coming back automatically, but the Thai yelled and I was very, very grateful for this! But in villages I drove very slowly. During a long-haul bus ride I was witnessing an accident, 'cause the bus was way too fast in the curve, hitting 2 down on a mb. Scull broken, both unconscious.
They have check points in Alaska during holidays because ppl tend to party more and drunk drive but the general public will call 911 and turn drunk drivers in.
I worked at the Pantip Market in Koh Phangan and it was alarming the amount of injured people that I saw on a regular basis. Even had a colleague get flown by helicopter to Bangkok from one of the islands bc his injury was so serious. He ended up getting flown back to the UK for surgery bc his family didnt know how the surgery would go in Thailand.
When I was in Thailand last december, riding scooters was one of the most fun experiences I had!!!
...Only because you didn't get hit by a Songtheaw haha glad you enjoyed though! Stay safe
I started riding a motorbike when I was 13 years old in bush Alaska then got my motor bike drivers license when I was 18 then later got a vehicle drivers license when I was 21 years old.
Little kids even drive 3 wheelers, 4 wheelers and motorcycles and a lot of kids got pilot licenses before turning 18, because majority of the. Ppl have to travel by air in Alaska. My friends dad use to take her out of school when she was 13 to fly his plane because he had an ear balance issue. Lol. She got her pilot license when she was 16 and bought a super cub when she was 18 years old.
I wish all tourists considered the risks. Amazing the number of people with little or no bike riding experience decide being on holiday makes them bulletproof. It’s not only themselves they put at risk but the people around them.
Hey Lloyd. Very true re the risks. We ride and have ridden many kms throughout Thailand...we always say "just don't hit anyone" and have spider eyes. Btw, where did you get your helmet? We will be in HH end of the month. Stay safe.
Thank you for rethinking the scooters in Thailand. I wondered when you’d hear about this? My brother and his Thai wife have a very nice house there. There’s more to the scooter story. It’s actually kind of disgusting. Stick with a car and baby seat. How much fun would it be to do an online baby shower? I just wonder if they have baby car seats there? You two must be very excited. I’m glad you did your research, but there’s more to it. You may never want to ride a scooter there again. LOL! Dig deeper! Take good care! Your baby is going to be beautiful! ❤
Moreover, during Songkran and New Year we also have 7 dangerous days too. We count every accidents...Actually, it's not scary. But the Ministry of Public Health reports 100%...
You said baby lloyd is it going to be a boy yahoo! Good thinking on the safety factor i ride everyday and safety is all im thinking about the mirrors are you best friend even though your blinker is on to turn right as you turn sometimes they still pass on the right.
lol he said baby Lloyd and Mandy.
Buy a Fortuner. Be that guy😅
Are you telling me you did not know about this stuff?
Thank you for your time and posting. Did you know over 13,000 people die in the US each year due to drunk drivers? ;) I'm checking out VN soon to maybe retire. :) Hope... Hope... Hope...
Are you going to move back to Canada?
The driving skills are massively to blame for the accidents! Passing on the left is such a BIG reason.. and terrible car driving.. I’ve ridden bikes for 40 years and I’d never ride here.. just look at the driving lessons and the ridiculous test!
Buy a SUV. Safer.
U ride on the back lanes. Those small SOI are the ones where a vehicle shoots out from don't know where !!! Careful and stay safe. Cheers
And, I am always horrified when seeing the children on bikes with their parents and not wearing helmets. Taiwan is finally becoming more aware of such safety measures. But, Yes! Bangkok was was horrible!
Motor bikes in SE Asia are terrifying. So are trains in India, especially northern India. Never again!
No one thinks it’s safe. So…
ขออนุญาตพิมเป็นภาษาไทยครับ อุบัติเหตุส่วนมากที่เกิดขึ้น เกิน 90% มาจากคนเมาแล้วขับ
In thai we said about motorcycle like “ to use our flesh cover the steel” . That mean if some accident happen, we have to use our body for protecting the bike😂
But with the car , the steel will cover our flesh
You don’t have to do anything wrong to get some accident, just be at a wrong place in a wrong time😅.
On ya Lloydee
Hi anf thank for the video I'want to ask you if you use wise card
What a big surprise!!!!!!!!!!!
I drive a taxicab in Vegas. I know all too well the stupid stuff people do. We have the highest auto insurance rates in the USA here in Las Vegas. Trust none. Assumed everyone is an incompetent, dangerous fool.
Get a car!! It only takes one accident!
I don't mean to be one of those doomers/moaners: you're going to want a car for when the baby comes anyway, so (IMO) you may as well get one now and significantly lower the danger to a preggers Mandy. A helmet won't help the baby much if she were to get knocked off! A car would be worth it for the peace-of-mind at the *very* least.
Source: recently travelled SE Asia with a 7 month old. Was also knocked off a bike in Vietnam by a madman a few years ago.
True เรื่องจริง
Mostly of 15,000 are drunken. That why our government have a rule for limit time for selling alcohol.
ที่ไหนก็อันตรายทั้งนั้นแหละครับ ไม่ใช่แค่ประเทศไทย ถ้าคนขับประมาท ไม่ใช้ความระมัดระวัง นี่คือความจริงที่คุณต้องทราบ
Wear proper shoes also my Brother!!!
Hard to believe so many wearing flip flops on a scooter
เพราะว่ามีคนขับมากมายที่ไม่เคารพกฏจารจร นอกจากการขับขี่ของคุณที่ต้องระวัง คุณต้องคอยระวังรถรอบข้างด้วย
Saya lihat vidio kamu bagus sayang❤😂❤
Drives off in thongs, shorts and a sometimes helmet? Just a matter of time really.
The stats are worse in Bali, Mates.
Filling stations look so ramshackle in both.
>>> Lloyd, seriously ... PLEASE do not operate any motor vehicle unless you are fully qualified to do so, anywhere.
You can never get away with what you think you can.
NO ONE CAN.
Those two Kiwis (New Zealanders for those people who do not already know) who fought the Thai coppers, likely were pure blooded Māoris.
Little else would explain their combativeness.
I could be wrong, however.
So, one of the brothers was allegedly an MMA fighter?
Yeah, quelle surprise, hey?
Lloyd, Mandy should not ride a motorbike at all whilst pregnant.
Crashes will damage an unborn foetus even if anyone is wearing a helmet.
Come on, now!
You know better than not to think of contingencies.
The spectrum thumbnail again? That same old head again and again, with all your online training surely you know to keep it fresh!! 😮??😂
its a Buddhist country, life is cheap!