That was cool of fogstar to send out another csse 😎 IMO they keep getting better, good product and it seems a good attitude , i think a company's business practices go a long way to attracting customers 👍 As allways chap i appreciate the effort and monetary outlay you provide to give us an informative and entertaining video 👍😎👍
Yes I didn't expect them to send me anything. They must have taken pity on me 😆 but a very generous gesture on their part. Thanks for your continued support 👍
Thanks for the teardown. Was looking at these after your last video. Not that you need more batteries in your life but I have noticed EcoTree now have a range also UK based. 😀
Hi, thanks for watching and taking time to comment 🙏 it's appreciated. Yes I've seen the ecotree batteries but out of my price range. No idea if they are worth the premium prices asked though. £825 for a 100Ah is steep IMHO
You noted some brittle glue, etc. on the Ecoworthy. Do you think it would be wise to put 8 of these in parallel (total 800 Ah) in a cruising sailboat? The boat would be subject to rocking and rolling as well as vibration from the diesel engine, but I could have them secured very well. You mentioned a bank of 4 for safety -- would there be a way I could isolate two banks of 4 each? They are less than half the cost of most of the typical "marine" brands which make them very appealing.
Hi, thanks for watching and taking time to comment 🙏 it's appreciated. While Eco-worthy say you can connect an unlimited number in parallel, I personally wouldn't put more than 4 in parallel. Even then I use MRBF Fuses on each battery as well as a class T. You could use a dual switch like this one amzn.to/3V3pEEs and have 2 banks of 4 batteries. They are not Marine grade, but as long as they are secured in a dry area, preferably ambient temperatures they should be OK. Maybe put a small dab of vaseline on the terminals to prevent corrosion would help too. Charging from solar may be an issue if that's your plan but really depends on your set up. Marine grade batteries are more expensive as they are totally sealed and use corrosion resistant materials. Assuming you need to keep too 12 volt system, shop around. If your UK based look at fogstar, I think they have a 12v 280Ah, 460Ah and 560Ah versions which may work out cheaper if you get 2. I'm not affiliated with them but they do give good value. Don't know where they ship too but you could ask. Hope this helps.
Just heard about fogstar today, so great to find a video about it. I currently have 2 eco worthy LifeP04 in series (24v) do you think I could add 2 fogstar batteries to double my ah capacity? I would put one each in parallel with the eco worthy batteries.
I just got 4 of the 280Ah ones. I ordered 23rd Nov 22 and they just arrived 5th Feb. They were due Jan but got delayed (for various Chinese shipping issues) until Feb. The build quality seems excellent. BMS reports all cells are within 3mV. Very tight. They arrived at 50% charge and I just finished charging the first one to 100%. I must buy a bigger charger. 7A is just not cutting it. :-)
Takes many years / cycles to really notice any losses in capacity. Lifepo4 has a low self discharge rate but as with any battery over discharging, heat etc will impact lifespans
During Black Friday, i bought the Eco-Worthy off Ebay (their official store) for £215 with £20 Cashback £195 for a 100ah LiPo battery is laughably cheap
Since you did this video stock is now available and prices have dropped. The fogstar is £370 and the ecoworthy is £310 but NEW10 gives another tenner of that. Is the ecoworthy a no brainer for £300 now?
At the price the Eco-worthy seems good, but their customer service is bad and I don't know what cells they are using. I would spend the extra on the fogstar for fact you know what you will get.
Great vids, thanks wondered if your ever going to tear down a roamer battery and compare it to fogstar? the price difference is about £500 quid for the 450ah battery 👌
Thanks for watching and taking time to comment 🙏 it's appreciated. Yes roamer are pricey. Are they worth that premium price? If they send me one I'd certainly find out.
Got a Eco worthy from Amazon, showing discharged battery and on my app saying 2.0 v . It's arrived like this and won't take a charge, Evan tried contacting my 12v motorcycle battery to get the smart charger to start charging the battery, I'm at a dead end and probably got a over priced paper weight 😢
@@DCGUY got a refund as it's none returnable . So I I opened it up to take a look can't see anything obvious but the bsm dose look to have an improved connections. Got a ip65 to use to charge but showing 7volts but 0 current on the app 🤔
@james1466 That's good. If you can email some photos I'd be interested is taking a peek to see what's new.
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I was considering in getting two of these to connect in parallel (24v) to my two eco-worthy 24v system. I contacted Fogstar to ask if I needed to have them all at 100% capacity before connecting together and they advised me not to use theirs with those from another manufacturer because of the difference in BMS. have you experienced any problems with your setup in this way?
I have had no issues mixing my eco worthy and fogstar batteries. JBD make both bms systems, both 100 amp just the fogstar has BT and options. Charge each individually until 100% then connect in parallel. Note.. Series connection increases voltage, parallel increases amp hours while voltage stays the same. Eg 2 x 12v in series gives 24v. 2 x 12v in parallel stays at 12v.
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@@DCGUY Thanks for that. Yes mines 2x12 in series and I wanted another 2x12 in series but parallel to existing ones, so still a 24v system. I’d have thought the BMS for each pair would just affect that pair they are in series with and not have issues with the parallel pair.
Yes, cell prices are all dropping and competition is a good thing for consumers. Fogstar are releasing an Eco version maybe to compete more directly with the likes of eco worthy
Thanks for posting these teardowns 😊.
Glad the UK is finally starting the LFP catchup
Thanks for watching and taking time to comment 🙏 it's appreciated and yes slowly but surely we're getting there.
No worries Bill 👍
That was cool of fogstar to send out another csse 😎 IMO they keep getting better, good product and it seems a good attitude , i think a company's business practices go a long way to attracting customers 👍
As allways chap i appreciate the effort and monetary outlay you provide to give us an informative and entertaining video 👍😎👍
Yes I didn't expect them to send me anything. They must have taken pity on me 😆 but a very generous gesture on their part. Thanks for your continued support 👍
Just bought a 280 ah Eco Worthy for €525 on Amazon. Been using it for a week now. Brilliant. Let's see how it goes
Awesome 👌 let us know how it works out, your feedback is invaluable 🍻
Thanks for the teardown. Was looking at these after your last video. Not that you need more batteries in your life but I have noticed EcoTree now have a range also UK based. 😀
I have learned a lot from your videos and awesome website
Hi, thanks for watching and taking time to comment 🙏 it's appreciated. Yes I've seen the ecotree batteries but out of my price range. No idea if they are worth the premium prices asked though. £825 for a 100Ah is steep IMHO
You noted some brittle glue, etc. on the Ecoworthy. Do you think it would be wise to put 8 of these in parallel (total 800 Ah) in a cruising sailboat? The boat would be subject to rocking and rolling as well as vibration from the diesel engine, but I could have them secured very well. You mentioned a bank of 4 for safety -- would there be a way I could isolate two banks of 4 each? They are less than half the cost of most of the typical "marine" brands which make them very appealing.
Hi, thanks for watching and taking time to comment 🙏 it's appreciated. While Eco-worthy say you can connect an unlimited number in parallel, I personally wouldn't put more than 4 in parallel. Even then I use MRBF Fuses on each battery as well as a class T. You could use a dual switch like this one amzn.to/3V3pEEs and have 2 banks of 4 batteries. They are not Marine grade, but as long as they are secured in a dry area, preferably ambient temperatures they should be OK. Maybe put a small dab of vaseline on the terminals to prevent corrosion would help too. Charging from solar may be an issue if that's your plan but really depends on your set up. Marine grade batteries are more expensive as they are totally sealed and use corrosion resistant materials. Assuming you need to keep too 12 volt system, shop around. If your UK based look at fogstar, I think they have a 12v 280Ah, 460Ah and 560Ah versions which may work out cheaper if you get 2. I'm not affiliated with them but they do give good value. Don't know where they ship too but you could ask. Hope this helps.
Just heard about fogstar today, so great to find a video about it.
I currently have 2 eco worthy LifeP04 in series (24v) do you think I could add 2 fogstar batteries to double my ah capacity?
I would put one each in parallel with the eco worthy batteries.
Thanks for watching and taking time to comment 🙏 it's appreciated. Yes I've done the same thing albeit in parallel.
Thanks for the review fogstar for me.
Thanks for watching and taking time to comment 🙏 it's appreciated
Looking at the big ones. Huge waiting list
I just got 4 of the 280Ah ones. I ordered 23rd Nov 22 and they just arrived 5th Feb. They were due Jan but got delayed (for various Chinese shipping issues) until Feb. The build quality seems excellent. BMS reports all cells are within 3mV. Very tight. They arrived at 50% charge and I just finished charging the first one to 100%. I must buy a bigger charger. 7A is just not cutting it. :-)
@@davebodger2 very tempted for my household system. My 100ah are a few years old now
Cheers.
I am keen to know how these compare after a year or so of use. Ie do they lose performance/capacity at all??
Takes many years / cycles to really notice any losses in capacity. Lifepo4 has a low self discharge rate but as with any battery over discharging, heat etc will impact lifespans
During Black Friday, i bought the Eco-Worthy off Ebay (their official store) for £215 with £20 Cashback
£195 for a 100ah LiPo battery is laughably cheap
Great deal 👌 prices are finally becoming realistic
Since you did this video stock is now available and prices have dropped. The fogstar is £370 and the ecoworthy is £310 but NEW10 gives another tenner of that. Is the ecoworthy a no brainer for £300 now?
At the price the Eco-worthy seems good, but their customer service is bad and I don't know what cells they are using. I would spend the extra on the fogstar for fact you know what you will get.
Great vids, thanks wondered if your ever going to tear down a roamer battery and compare it to fogstar? the price difference is about £500 quid for the 450ah battery 👌
Thanks for watching and taking time to comment 🙏 it's appreciated. Yes roamer are pricey. Are they worth that premium price? If they send me one I'd certainly find out.
Got a Eco worthy from Amazon, showing discharged battery and on my app saying 2.0 v . It's arrived like this and won't take a charge, Evan tried contacting my 12v motorcycle battery to get the smart charger to start charging the battery, I'm at a dead end and probably got a over priced paper weight 😢
Yikes! Send it back via amazon returns.
@@DCGUY got a refund as it's none returnable .
So I I opened it up to take a look can't see anything obvious but the bsm dose look to have an improved connections.
Got a ip65 to use to charge but showing 7volts but 0 current on the app 🤔
@james1466 That's good. If you can email some photos I'd be interested is taking a peek to see what's new.
I was considering in getting two of these to connect in parallel (24v) to my two eco-worthy 24v system. I contacted Fogstar to ask if I needed to have them all at 100% capacity before connecting together and they advised me not to use theirs with those from another manufacturer because of the difference in BMS. have you experienced any problems with your setup in this way?
I have had no issues mixing my eco worthy and fogstar batteries. JBD make both bms systems, both 100 amp just the fogstar has BT and options. Charge each individually until 100% then connect in parallel. Note.. Series connection increases voltage, parallel increases amp hours while voltage stays the same. Eg 2 x 12v in series gives 24v. 2 x 12v in parallel stays at 12v.
@@DCGUY Thanks for that. Yes mines 2x12 in series and I wanted another 2x12 in series but parallel to existing ones, so still a 24v system. I’d have thought the BMS for each pair would just affect that pair they are in series with and not have issues with the parallel pair.
I'd agree with your thinking.
It's quite unbelievable how much the eco worthy have come down in price and so quickly.
Now I see them offered at £350 but most of the time £369.
For sure, I paid 500 a year ago, but competition is a consumers friend.
Just bought an Eco Worthy 100ah from them direct for £299 inc postage. Thanks for the video, very interesting
obviously just signed up!
Thanks for the support
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Eco worthy 100ah 12v LFP . Price is £224.00 (Dec 2023)
Yes only seems to be on Amazon at this price amzn.to/3GN3ZLj its 249 on the eco-worthy uk site.
Fogstars are now working out a lot more expensive in comparison.
Yes, cell prices are all dropping and competition is a good thing for consumers. Fogstar are releasing an Eco version maybe to compete more directly with the likes of eco worthy
@@DCGUY Please review Fogstar ECO when you get a chance!