Wow as a TH-camr myself I can definitely appreciate how much work you put into all these videos thanks for keeping us updated I love this channel so much… I will definitely welcome this update it’s gonna be great for my wedding jobs
I appreciate that! Keep it on standard to not over tax the camera, but when you need the extra recording, switch over the high. So glad to see this improvement.
Always appreciate your videos, Simon, but I think this is one of the best. Well done. I think you hit it - most manufacturers are putting out product now without fully robust testing just to keep product flowing. So Canon took the only course available - protect the internals of the camera (and their reputation) while they took the time to fully test its limits. Then issue an update. It was indeed better to get the complaints than the lawsuits. Looking forward to the high ambient temp tests.
Your video from the other day is what made me realize the update came out! Honestly, I am shocked that we got this at all, as I didn't expect it. Thanks for your tests! I feel like my best case scenario is with real world usage for me personally. I am confident I'll have no issues, which I'm grateful for! I hope you're well!
When I recorded that video, I didn't have a chance to test the firmware. I had to spend two days just to get what is in this video. A lot more tests are needed at 80F and 90F. I feel like a scientist at Skinwalker Ranch ;)
Excellent post!!!! I was waiting for your offering on the update! You are the most enthusiastic, dedicated reviewer on TH-cam and I thank you for your tireless diligence!!!
Much appreciated and thanks for watching ;) These details matter to a lot of people, and I'm curious too. Over the next few weeks, I'll cover off performance at different temperatures.
After owning an R5, I have an R5C and am not happy about it. I hope canon fixes the battery life , auto focus & allows video in photo mode. Of course Over heat anxiety and ibis wobbles now fixed 🤦🏾♂️
I know a lot of people thought the R5 just needed a fan and unlimited recording but I feel like the R5c really is a better video/hybrid cam. The image quality is somehow even better with improved dynamic range, improved highlight roll off, better codec options, and is just amazing. It’s nice that they’re opening features on the r5 though.
The R5c is definitely better. The entire time I was recording this video I kept thinking, just recommend the R5C, but it does cost a lot more, and I think more people will buy the R5. I would have bought the R5c if it was out when the R5 was released.
@@OrdinaryFilmmaker and honestly, video isn’t the priority for everyone. So, having the ability to take excellent video with a more affordable camera. For me, having the ability to take amazing stills on an even more amazing video first camera is great. It has become my all-in-one solution for vacation photo/video combination, narrative type shooting, gimbal shooting, and just experimenting. I love it. Hate the micro hdmi though, lol.
It is really amazing for vacations. The HDMI is the only really annoying thing left of the camera... micro... it's not like there isn't room for a full size ;)
Why would you say the r5c is better? It may have one step better useable dynamic range (at best) but it uses the same sensor. However it has really bad battery life which means you need an external battery rig plus it has less reliable autofocus, is more expensive and no ibis (which is very useful for stills and handheld video). The video OS in the r5c is nice but switching between video and photo on the r5c is noticeably longer than on the r5.
loving what you are putting out! ALL the firmware update since release did make a huge impact BUT there is just 1 MORE update and thats the unlimited recording to be enabled LETS MAKE THIS HAPPEN CANON!!!
Thank you for putting out such a great informative video. I feel lucky or just the right time in getting my new R5 with Ninja v plus. All I can say that having the Nikon z6 and z7 ii, this camera really packs a punch in all areas. Very happy with it.
You're very welcome. I've had the R5 for two years. It's forced me to become a much better videographer. Very powerful indeed. Combined with the Ninja V+, its something else.
The Canon R3 is now insane. As well as the R line up. Incredible how the manufacturers put this equipment out as is then later on flick a switch and now you have a “brand new” camera. Great post.
I’m sure they will hold onto the 30 minutes until the r5ii, to entice people to buy the new camera. Then perhaps six months after that they will update no record limit for the r5.
That's what I've come to believe too, but this update was a surprise and affects how the camera operates. I would not be completely surprised if they do remove it.
Thanks! Love you content and well laid out . Can’t wait to update my R5 - was hoping for some updates for my R - that’s such a great camera that’s getting overlooked imho
Thanks so much for the generous donation Justin. I'm just happy you found the information useful. I don't think the R is going to get any more updates... I think it is about to be replaced.
Seems like you had much better 8K results than I did. I was only able to get 49 minutes and 4 seconds before it thermally shut down on me. I was able to exceed 2.5 hours in 4K HQ though.
To do some more temp / climate testing, I've seen Potato Jet do similar climate testing for Sony in the past by using an egg incubator oven. I though it was a pretty good way to have a controlled environment without having to heat your entire house or wait for a hot day. Just a thought. I like your content....keep up the good work.
On the heat management topic, looks like the solution we have all been waiting for! I'm in hot hot Texas (100-110 F or higher all day long). Look forward to your warm/hot ambient temperature testing. Thank you Simon
@@OrdinaryFilmmaker sorry for late reply. But over the weekend in 100 degree in TX. Firmware was obsolete. Can only do 4K60 for maybe 1 football game. I had to switch to 4k30
Awesome news. I’ve been holding off on my new camera selection. Currently shooting Nikon DSLR and was thinking of Z9 but it’s too difficult to get and it still has some issues. Sony Alpha One is too pricey. After this firmware the R5 now seems to be the best bang for your buck, higher resolution Camera out there. It just does so much for the price. So most likely R5 will be my next cam.
Gordon, can you comment on your best dummy battery with AC/DC adaptor (your "mains") for continuous recording in the R5? Perhaps, it will decrease some thermal generation. Thanks, Jose
Sure Steve. I just use Canon's DC adapter and dummy battery combo. It costs a lot more, but I don't have to worry about knockoffs failing or delivering the wrong current.
Great video! Very informative. I also do hope they get rid of that 30 minute recording limit, it’s honestly insane that it’s there for how much the r5 cost and seeing cheaper options and other camera companies not have that limit there, nonetheless I still love the r5.
I just want to thank you for putting this much effort to make this video for R5 owners. You did explain everything in details and now I can not wait to try out this new update on the field. Thank you and thank you canon. Finally!!!!
@@OrdinaryFilmmaker As R5 owner, I always want to see this camera fully capable of what it originally promised. Hopefully, it is getting there. There were many times I wanted to sell this camera but kept it due to its photography features. It is a great camera and now getting better.
I upgraded from the 70D. I've spent the last two years improving my outcomes to what the R5 will allow me to deliver. I just need storage to drop in price to go the extra mile ;)
I get so tired of replacing batteries that I have a Battery Grip on all my cameras. Including my R5 which I been shooting 4k/60 clips and photos without a over heat warning after a 4 hour shoot. I've been doing this for over a year. I usually shoot sailboats out in Lake Union, Seattle which temps very from 60ºF to 80ºF. I haven't done scientific note-taking because this was just real world get the job done first research later. 😊 I don't do long recordings (2-4 minutes clips as I'm doing hybrid shooting), but the camera is on the full duration of the shoot which is about 4 hours. The camera body does get hot which I've been thinking of buying thick gloves so I don't have to keep putting my hand into the water to cool it off. I have the camera on my mechanical gimbal while shooting video (sometimes I'm hand holding for photos with the gimbal still attached) on a chase boat that I often have to stand and lean on the Samson post to keep me steady and not falling out of the tiny boat. This got me thinking that the heat from the batteries is below the camera in the grip which at least it's not contributing to the OH problem. I was shooing in July which means I was using firmware 1.3.1. I do use dual Anglebird 256GB cards. (CFexpress and SD V60 for backup). I've been watching (I'm sure you have too) the Deaf Director TH-cam channel and he uses the Atomos V recorder (only 4k recording). He said he's found the internal view finder and the backscreen that contributors to over heating. He's recently pushed the R5 limits with the new 1.6.0 update. th-cam.com/video/dcm3yJUi79A/w-d-xo.html It's got me thinking that since I'm using a mechanical gimbal that to get a better view of the action that I should purchase the Atomos V+ (records 8K) for my video clips and photos. Then if there is ever a day I have to shoot in 90º+ weather, I'll feel confident that my R5 won't OH and I'll have a larger screen to work with on the chase boat. Notes: I shoot IPB lite which is pretty impressive compression. Deaf Director demonstrated that it's pretty good quality for what it is. I normally never use compression of any kind but I think Canon has got it right with IPB and IPB lite.
I'm not even going to bother doing the update. Unlimited isn't unlimited until they remove the 30 minute limit. We need to stop praising Canon, until they fix that. A step in the right direction, but on the wrong floor. Thank you Simon for your tests and your reporting. I just got back from the Yukon and I am just getting to this video.
Great video as always. I hope people appreciate all the time it takes for you to put something like this together. I sure do. On the 30 minute record limit, my theory is that once a camera is registered with the limit, it can never be changed. Not because they don’t have the technical ability to do so. I believe legally they cannot. I am struggling to think of any single camera, from any single company, that had a 30 minute limit removed via firmware. The only way I’ve ever seen anybody do it, is to come up with a new or updated model. And that would Have a new registration.
Maybe its something like operating systems. Apple used to charge for them, then one year they made it free, but if you wanted an older version, you still had to pay for it. I don't understand the legality as they are the ones writing the contracts ;) Just have people sign a new EULA ;)
@@RockyColaFizz EU rule states that any digital still camera with a resolution higher than 800x600 and the duration of video of 30 minutes of more (at 23 fps or higher) must now be classified as a 'video camera recorder' and hence be taxed at a higher rate. Even after July 2019, when the 30 minutes was removed by the EU, they did not remove the 800x600 pixel limit = 1.44 million dots display. So Canon R10, Fujifilm XT-2 and Sony A7IV has a display of 1.04million dots. R7 has 1.62 dots for 3:2 stills. At 16:9 video mode R7 has less than 1.44 million dots. R5 cannot remove the 30minutes limit since the screen resolution exceed the EU limit.
They only owe a tax if there's a regulation in place. The regs are now gone. Without Canon commenting, I don't know for sure. Ive love to get a hold of someone to ask the question and not get a standard canned answer.
That must have taken a lot of your time, you have a very understanding family. This is great news, especially for event video and studio work. But it is galling that after 30 mins you have to press record again. Obviously you might have to change the battery in any case if out in the field but with a fake battery power it's easy to forget to press record again. Does the camera log when the high temp mode is set and for how long ? This might cause the resale value to fall if it could be accessed (like shutter count). Or even the suspicion that it's been used might reduce resale values. What do you think ?
Simon l am aware you don't have an R6 but thought you would have bought up the fact that the R6 update apparently does a great job of removing IBIS wobble, maybe it coming in your next video.
I'm just focused on the overheat for the next few weeks, but will cover the wobble soon. The overheat is consuming a lot of free time. I was thinking of getting the RF 16mm to test it ;) I heard the fix is on the R5 too :) I will cover it.
Following yours and other youtubers advice i have only purchased angelbird cfexpress and ssd I have noticed the 512 g SE version has dropped in price recently which is encouraging and read on the Anglebird website and documentation that the SE reads at 1750mps and writes to 800mps, the R5 requires write speeds of 350mps. Do you have any thoughts As it would appear that the SE range could well be a good economic solution although largest CFexpress size is currently 512g
Curious if you have the battery grip that helps keep the heat down in the camera as well? I have an R5 and a Panasonic GH6, I don’t want I have to do long form recording without having to be able to change a battery in the GH6, I usually just record the SDXC because cfexpress cards get so hot that I think that’s one of the big energy users...certainly heat generator.
It seems to be a fundamental issue in many cameras that if you record for an extended period of time you will get overheating. Does it really make any sense to push your equipment to the point of damage? I don’t think so. Living in Australia this is a consideration.
Thanks for the testing; very helpful. I installed 1.6 on my R5 and was pumped to know the overheating issues were basically solved. Then I went on a real estate photo (not video) shoot and while I was outside only 20 minutes, the camera began to give the overheating red warning. The temperature outside was around 80 degrees. I was really surprised as this only happened rarely when shooting photos before. Have you been able to test your R5 in photo mode for overheating? Thanks
I hardly shoot stills, just video but I’m surprised to hear this. Was the lcd closed or open. I always shot video with this option. I also have lcd go to sleep right away. Photo mode isn’t supposed to cause an overheat.
@@OrdinaryFilmmaker thanks for the reply. Yes very surprising. LCD was closed. I do a lot of photography with R5 and have only had the red overheating warning 2 or 3 times and usually in more extreme conditions. I hope this is not a bug in the new firmware.
@@OrdinaryFilmmaker actually the R6 has a better dissipate of heat, considering the cool down times are much shorter comer to the R6. R5 has a problem that it accumulate more heat cause of better weather sealing. So I guess there is another reason the R6 didn't get it. Maybe the internals are not as heat resistant as the ones in the R5
Come on down here in California. 100 F is much guaranteed for the next few days till this coming weekend. No, Canon won't lift that 30 min. recording limit. R5 is stuck with it. I am sure R5 Mark II will not have that 30 min. recording limit. The firmware 1.6 is great.
I prefer the weather of norther California ;) I thought we were stuck with it too, but I also never thought we'd get a new overheat setting allowing recording for much longer...
My 'studio' is more like 78-82F regularly. Looking forward to testing out the new firmware myself. Great video - thanks for doing the heavy lifting for us.
Honestly that 30 minute limit is one of the only reasons why I haven’t switched back to canon. I film a podcast that usually runs from 45-60min+ . I can’t afford 3 cinema cameras so it’s 3 Sony apsc cams. Come on Canon seriously, get your $h1t together.
nice work. I dont know about the camera overheat flashing here in the uk but Ive been having a Overheat issue on myself LOL its been far toooooo Hot. I dont think Ill ever need that sort of record time but its nice to know I can :)
“Unlimited” recording needs to come with a big ASTERISK. Unlimited* recording. * In multiple segments artificially limited to 29:59** length ** 7:29 in 4K 120. Canon really needs to be raked over the coals for keeping this limit in place. It needs to be abolished and it needs to happen now. There is ZERO justification for it.
Doing an interview? Can you imagine doing an interview and having to break in middle to let your camera cool down? It’s not a good option for interviews.
You spent a lot of time making accurate measurements... Next time you test any camera point it full screen at ESPN on a TV monitor And be surprised Shooting a wall is not a realistic test
@@OrdinaryFilmmaker Yup. I prefer your info so, have you tested fps after this R5 update? Sorry I wasn’t specific. I’m an R5 guy photographer, not video…yet. 🤗😉 Also, funny writing to you as I am watching you on my flat screen.
Someone in Canon management has figured out they need to have the pedal to the metal. The truth is that camera sales have been tanking for years now thanks to most folks settling for the phone in their pocket as a great camera. Combined with Sony and Nikon bringing it, Canon has to go, go, go or literally become a thing of the past. This is just the beginning of what Canon will have to put out in the next 5 years.
The R5 is a very serious camera being the first to market with many capabilities. I've never seen canon release so many firmware updates with so many enhancements. The camera is vastly improved over what was first released.
The amazing thing with new tech is being able to add features and improve cameras capabilities by just a firmware update - Not something available for my AE-1, T-90, Pentax ME-1 or Bronica SQ(?) back in the day. We sure complain a lot, but this feature of upgrading is amazing . Don’t tell anyone, but I would pay for some of them as opposed to a whole new camera - makes the resale value stay strong a lot longer
Just loving your scientific experiments to ensure what Canon promises actually delivers. A lot of youtubers do the same thing, do a bunch of experiments and announce the findings
I did a lot of testing in August 2020. I haven't tested many firmware updates, but this one fundamentally changes how we approach video. I'm a little concerned about keeping the camera in a high heat mode so thought I'd better do a good solid review. Thanks for watching Mr Mayor.
No. I did a live stream yesterday and the battery life was fine. However, when shooting int he high heat mode, the battery doesn't last as long. Standard mode and its fine.
So can you record nonstop in 4k 30fps or less without time limit on the R5 or not? You first said that issue was resolved, then you said it wasn't resolved half way into this presentation. Which is it? Resolved unlimited no time limit recording or not?
Great video! Thanks for doing it. You're HILARIOUS though with your crutch: punching only your LAST word of almost every sentence. I'm a broadcaster, so I'm trained to notice stuff like that (most people won't) but I thought I'd mention it in case you weren't aware of it yourself. In TV News, we're taught to punch (or emphasize) the most important word in each phrase (as you would in normal speech) and numbers (when they're important or not.) You've been doing it for so long there's probably no way you're gonna change at this point, but if you do or don't, YOU'RE GREAT!!!!
Now I'll be aware of it, but I not too worried either. I've always taken to this as something fun and a hobby. Perhaps I'll pay more attention to it and play with it... ;)
My Angelbird is flaking and brittle and I rarely ever take it out now so I need to eject my Sd just to be able to grip my CfExpress and My AB card plastic is a brittle fragile mess.... I LOVED THIS card when I got it ---- BUT I advise you warn people they are BRITTLE - I am kind of shocked to be honest... the plastic even snapped off on the bottom where the pins are protected... Guess I will still be using the ninja v+ so I dont melt my card
With your tests you had the same results that I got with my R5 after the firmware update 1.6.0 I too have like you my R5 since July 2020. Now we can say that the only mode that is still slightly problematic at overheating is the 4k 120fps. In my opinion this is one of the reasons why Canon has not yet removed the recording limit of 30 min (or 7min50sec in slowmo) surely the company does not want consumers to push too much overheating with the 4k 120fps. In summary, personally, I quite happy with this firmware 1.6.0. because I can now do 4k oversampled 8k, the mode I like the most from the Canon R5!
I guess it's cool that the camera is more flexible now but honestly I think we need to just bite the bullet and admit we need active cooling in these cameras now. Something I wish Fuji did with their latest release as well.
@@aviationrambler Interesting. Some who use the GoPro say a small metal cage around the GoPro (like a SmallRig cage) acts as a heat sink and reduces the internal heat. Maybe a similar thing for the R5? Hmmm...
@@CarlLoop If anything it would make thermals worse. Yes metal is more thermally conductive than plastic, but you want as little material between the heat source and the air. That said, the best bet would be to have a contact plate with the processor, a heat pipe to carry the heat away, and have the back panel be something thermally conductive instead of plastic which an insulator. Even better would be the R5C setup where even without the fan, having metal fins in there would increase surface area in contact with air, and would help tremendously.
I'll address in the next few weeks as the weather gets hotter. I would expect that we lose the ability to have unlimited recording at 40C, but will have to test 80 and then 90F first.
I shot a wedding last June when we had record high temps over 44C . The HDMI to SDI adapters , pro JVC & Sony Video cameras, Atomos Shinobi , and all other recording equipment stopped, except for my Canon R5 and 1DXMarkiii …. They all warn of use range to 35C-40C max … I had to put cold towels on the adapters and they still shut down . It was horrible as the only media we got came via the cameras.
@@OrdinaryFilmmaker well this overheating fix came so out of the blue. I can’t think of any technical reason it can be improved so much on the R5 but not the R6. ? I haven’t lost hope that it drops a few months later like c log 3 did. First for r5 then r6.
@@TomislavMoze absolutely. But the bodies are of a similar size with same heat dissipation requirements and up until this R5 firmware dropped I’d have said an overheating was was impossible - so here’s hoping for a similar stealth drop on the new R6 firmware in a few months. 😀
@@LatexFashionTV owning both of them I have to say that they are only similar size there are so many different reactions to heat, R6 cools down faster, but also reacts more to the outside temperatures compare to the r5 that really takes time to cool down after it overheated but if you shoot in a really hot environment it will not influence the overheating as it does with the R6. i guess most of it due to the weather sealing, but having different cards and body I presume that also the whole heat dissipation is handled differently, also the materials of the camera are different so maybe the r6 does not react well to higher temperatures cause of it.
No kidding... but I wasn't expecting 1.6 to be a big update. Thought they had given us everything and were focusing on the II. Maybe they will remove it...
@@OrdinaryFilmmaker i do hope so. I usually film in fullhd, and when you record like a class or anything that goes over 30 minutes, and you are solo, you kinda get annoyed by the limitation. Especially since in Europe the provision has been abrogated a few years ago.
They aren't cheap, but you're getting a very large P/E or TBW number. I'd suggest getting the 1TB at US$479 - far more affordable. Keep an eye out for Black Friday deals. Then next year get another... 1TB still give you over 30 minutes ;)
Thanks for this detailed test! Just one question, what difference is there when using an SD card? I don’t use a CFExpress card yet, I generally shoot with the 4K HQ and 4K 60p. Do you have any data on the potential damage to an SD card or if it runs hotter or less hot?
I know, i have shot my camera nearly every single day. It is such a joy to use. I LOVE the R5. Mine has taken serious spills - i have the carepak and I will have to send my body in soon, but it is hard to part with and there aren't any critical issues; just minor inconveniences...
I suggest you to test noise floor level going up with temperature on 8k raw recording with maximum ISO. Hot sensor has more noise and as a result - lower dynamic range. I believe that this is a sacrifice they did with this update. Keep some very dark detailed picture in the shot to see if it ramps up noise reduction.
Wow as a TH-camr myself I can definitely appreciate how much work you put into all these videos thanks for keeping us updated I love this channel so much… I will definitely welcome this update it’s gonna be great for my wedding jobs
I appreciate that! Keep it on standard to not over tax the camera, but when you need the extra recording, switch over the high. So glad to see this improvement.
Always appreciate your videos, Simon, but I think this is one of the best. Well done. I think you hit it - most manufacturers are putting out product now without fully robust testing just to keep product flowing. So Canon took the only course available - protect the internals of the camera (and their reputation) while they took the time to fully test its limits. Then issue an update. It was indeed better to get the complaints than the lawsuits. Looking forward to the high ambient temp tests.
They you so much. Tomorrow is due to be 80 so I hope to set it up in the back yard and try 8K raw at first.
Your video from the other day is what made me realize the update came out! Honestly, I am shocked that we got this at all, as I didn't expect it. Thanks for your tests! I feel like my best case scenario is with real world usage for me personally. I am confident I'll have no issues, which I'm grateful for! I hope you're well!
When I recorded that video, I didn't have a chance to test the firmware. I had to spend two days just to get what is in this video. A lot more tests are needed at 80F and 90F. I feel like a scientist at Skinwalker Ranch ;)
@@OrdinaryFilmmaker Haha! I can only imagine! I'm with you and will look forward to your tests!
Fingers crossed for good weather. I liked your video on the firmware update!
@@OrdinaryFilmmaker Thank you!
Excellent post!!!! I was waiting for your offering on the update! You are the most enthusiastic, dedicated reviewer on TH-cam and I thank you for your tireless diligence!!!
Much appreciated and thanks for watching ;) These details matter to a lot of people, and I'm curious too. Over the next few weeks, I'll cover off performance at different temperatures.
After owning an R5, I have an R5C and am not happy about it. I hope canon fixes the battery life , auto focus & allows video in photo mode. Of course Over heat anxiety and ibis wobbles now fixed 🤦🏾♂️
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I know a lot of people thought the R5 just needed a fan and unlimited recording but I feel like the R5c really is a better video/hybrid cam. The image quality is somehow even better with improved dynamic range, improved highlight roll off, better codec options, and is just amazing. It’s nice that they’re opening features on the r5 though.
The R5c is definitely better. The entire time I was recording this video I kept thinking, just recommend the R5C, but it does cost a lot more, and I think more people will buy the R5. I would have bought the R5c if it was out when the R5 was released.
@@OrdinaryFilmmaker and honestly, video isn’t the priority for everyone. So, having the ability to take excellent video with a more affordable camera. For me, having the ability to take amazing stills on an even more amazing video first camera is great. It has become my all-in-one solution for vacation photo/video combination, narrative type shooting, gimbal shooting, and just experimenting. I love it. Hate the micro hdmi though, lol.
It is really amazing for vacations. The HDMI is the only really annoying thing left of the camera... micro... it's not like there isn't room for a full size ;)
This means that every last feature the R5c has is hidden inside the R5. Someone needs to jail break the R5.
Why would you say the r5c is better? It may have one step better useable dynamic range (at best) but it uses the same sensor. However it has really bad battery life which means you need an external battery rig plus it has less reliable autofocus, is more expensive and no ibis (which is very useful for stills and handheld video). The video OS in the r5c is nice but switching between video and photo on the r5c is noticeably longer than on the r5.
loving what you are putting out!
ALL the firmware update since release did make a huge impact BUT there is just 1 MORE update and thats the unlimited recording to be enabled
LETS MAKE THIS HAPPEN CANON!!!
Thank you for putting out such a great informative video. I feel lucky or just the right time in getting my new R5 with Ninja v plus. All I can say that having the Nikon z6 and z7 ii, this camera really packs a punch in all areas. Very happy with it.
You're very welcome. I've had the R5 for two years. It's forced me to become a much better videographer. Very powerful indeed. Combined with the Ninja V+, its something else.
@@OrdinaryFilmmaker Looking forward in watching your next test videos!!
Weather permitting it should be out in the next few days.
Do you notice a big difference shooting in prores raw?
The Canon R3 is now insane. As well as the R line up. Incredible how the manufacturers put this equipment out as is then later on flick a switch and now you have a “brand new” camera. Great post.
They will be selling those other features as an add on soon
I’m sure they will hold onto the 30 minutes until the r5ii, to entice people to buy the new camera.
Then perhaps six months after that they will update no record limit for the r5.
That's what I've come to believe too, but this update was a surprise and affects how the camera operates. I would not be completely surprised if they do remove it.
Thanks! Love you content and well laid out . Can’t wait to update my R5 - was hoping for some updates for my R - that’s such a great camera that’s getting overlooked imho
Thanks so much for the generous donation Justin. I'm just happy you found the information useful. I don't think the R is going to get any more updates... I think it is about to be replaced.
Seems like you had much better 8K results than I did. I was only able to get 49 minutes and 4 seconds before it thermally shut down on me. I was able to exceed 2.5 hours in 4K HQ though.
What was the ambient temperature? Did you have the LCD out and what about the stand by low res? They all make a big difference.
The LCD was in, and standby low res was disabled for all of my testing.
@@citadelstreamingbyjamesblades And for 2.5 hours of shooting in 4K HQ, what was the ambient temperature please?
To do some more temp / climate testing, I've seen Potato Jet do similar climate testing for Sony in the past by using an egg incubator oven. I though it was a pretty good way to have a controlled environment without having to heat your entire house or wait for a hot day. Just a thought. I like your content....keep up the good work.
Nice idea. I love fighting with the environment ;) Gets me outside in the limited summer we have up here.
@@OrdinaryFilmmaker Can't argue with that. Looking forward to the results of the testing.
On the heat management topic, looks like the solution we have all been waiting for! I'm in hot hot Texas (100-110 F or higher all day long). Look forward to your warm/hot ambient temperature testing. Thank you Simon
I will test 4K60 in this TX heat of 100 degrees
I do Youth Football and take some downtime in between plays
I just published another video at 80F. Unlimited has disappeared for 8K Raw, but the results are still good...
@@OrdinaryFilmmaker sorry for late reply. But over the weekend in 100 degree in TX. Firmware was obsolete. Can only do 4K60 for maybe 1 football game. I had to switch to 4k30
That is really a good news. Finally 8K unlimited for R5.
We had it under 1.1.0, but needed to operate at 60F. Looks like 70F has us covered now. I'll test 80F soon.
Really great reporting and testing. Thanks! --- CANON --- PLEASE REMOVE THE 30 MIN RECORDING LIMIT for 24/30fps --- it's such a big deal
Thanks Dirt. After this firmware update, I'd be surprised if it doesn't come soon. Surprised this update doesn't have it.
The limit is not there because of any manufacturer. It is there because of taxes. The EU considers over 30
Mins a video camera and taxes them more.
That's wrong Shawn. There is no EU tax that applies to the R5 as you infer.
@@OrdinaryFilmmaker I have read that in several places. I guess they are wrong. But why would so many manufacturers all have the same limit?
@@shawnwright240 that was the case many years ago actually. It's ok. Now you know.:)
Awesome news. I’ve been holding off on my new camera selection. Currently shooting Nikon DSLR and was thinking of Z9 but it’s too difficult to get and it still has some issues. Sony Alpha One is too pricey. After this firmware the R5 now seems to be the best bang for your buck, higher resolution Camera out there. It just does so much for the price. So most likely R5 will be my next cam.
Awesome Simon, thank you so much. I didn't even know about this update if not for your videos. I'm going to test with my dummy battery setup
That's incredible. And thank you for the insight in your R5's usage since 2020. Really puts things into perspective.
I appreciate that!
Gordon, can you comment on your best dummy battery with AC/DC adaptor (your "mains") for continuous recording in the R5? Perhaps, it will decrease some thermal generation. Thanks, Jose
Sure Steve. I just use Canon's DC adapter and dummy battery combo. It costs a lot more, but I don't have to worry about knockoffs failing or delivering the wrong current.
Thanks for a great review of the recent firmware upgrade Simon! All the best!
Great video! Very informative. I also do hope they get rid of that 30 minute recording limit, it’s honestly insane that it’s there for how much the r5 cost and seeing cheaper options and other camera companies not have that limit there, nonetheless I still love the r5.
I just want to thank you for putting this much effort to make this video for R5 owners. You did explain everything in details and now I can not wait to try out this new update on the field. Thank you and thank you canon. Finally!!!!
You're welcome. As I'm an R5 owner, I have a sense of curiosity to see how far it can be pushed. Today I hope to test out 8K oversampled 4K :)
@@OrdinaryFilmmaker As R5 owner, I always want to see this camera fully capable of what it originally promised. Hopefully, it is getting there. There were many times I wanted to sell this camera but kept it due to its photography features. It is a great camera and now getting better.
I upgraded from the 70D. I've spent the last two years improving my outcomes to what the R5 will allow me to deliver. I just need storage to drop in price to go the extra mile ;)
@@OrdinaryFilmmaker I upgraded from 90D :) and to improve I bought Ninja V . Not I guess I am just gonna use it as an external monitor.
I'm sure the external monitor would greatly increase record times.
I get so tired of replacing batteries that I have a Battery Grip on all my cameras. Including my R5 which I been shooting 4k/60 clips and photos without a over heat warning after a 4 hour shoot. I've been doing this for over a year. I usually shoot sailboats out in Lake Union, Seattle which temps very from 60ºF to 80ºF. I haven't done scientific note-taking because this was just real world get the job done first research later. 😊 I don't do long recordings (2-4 minutes clips as I'm doing hybrid shooting), but the camera is on the full duration of the shoot which is about 4 hours. The camera body does get hot which I've been thinking of buying thick gloves so I don't have to keep putting my hand into the water to cool it off.
I have the camera on my mechanical gimbal while shooting video (sometimes I'm hand holding for photos with the gimbal still attached) on a chase boat that I often have to stand and lean on the Samson post to keep me steady and not falling out of the tiny boat. This got me thinking that the heat from the batteries is below the camera in the grip which at least it's not contributing to the OH problem. I was shooing in July which means I was using firmware 1.3.1. I do use dual Anglebird 256GB cards. (CFexpress and SD V60 for backup).
I've been watching (I'm sure you have too) the Deaf Director TH-cam channel and he uses the Atomos V recorder (only 4k recording). He said he's found the internal view finder and the backscreen that contributors to over heating. He's recently pushed the R5 limits with the new 1.6.0 update. th-cam.com/video/dcm3yJUi79A/w-d-xo.html
It's got me thinking that since I'm using a mechanical gimbal that to get a better view of the action that I should purchase the Atomos V+ (records 8K) for my video clips and photos. Then if there is ever a day I have to shoot in 90º+ weather, I'll feel confident that my R5 won't OH and I'll have a larger screen to work with on the chase boat.
Notes: I shoot IPB lite which is pretty impressive compression. Deaf Director demonstrated that it's pretty good quality for what it is. I normally never use compression of any kind but I think Canon has got it right with IPB and IPB lite.
Can you use metric system please? You are Canadian, right.
Great video! Now Is possible to shoot 10 Bit in a profile other than Clog ?
Nope
I'm not even going to bother doing the update.
Unlimited isn't unlimited until they remove the 30 minute limit. We need to stop praising Canon, until they fix that.
A step in the right direction, but on the wrong floor.
Thank you Simon for your tests and your reporting. I just got back from the Yukon and I am just getting to this video.
Finally Canon remove the fake overheat recording limit.
Great video as always. I hope people appreciate all the time it takes for you to put something like this together. I sure do. On the 30 minute record limit, my theory is that once a camera is registered with the limit, it can never be changed. Not because they don’t have the technical ability to do so. I believe legally they cannot. I am struggling to think of any single camera, from any single company, that had a 30 minute limit removed via firmware. The only way I’ve ever seen anybody do it, is to come up with a new or updated model. And that would
Have a new registration.
Maybe its something like operating systems. Apple used to charge for them, then one year they made it free, but if you wanted an older version, you still had to pay for it. I don't understand the legality as they are the ones writing the contracts ;) Just have people sign a new EULA ;)
@@OrdinaryFilmmaker I wonder if they simply cant do it because of the regulatory electronics and taxing agencies.
@@RockyColaFizz
EU rule states that any digital still camera with a resolution higher than 800x600 and the duration of video of 30 minutes of more (at 23 fps or higher) must now be classified as a 'video camera recorder' and hence be taxed at a higher rate.
Even after July 2019, when the 30 minutes was removed by the EU, they did not remove the 800x600 pixel limit = 1.44 million dots display.
So Canon R10, Fujifilm XT-2 and Sony A7IV has a display of 1.04million dots. R7 has 1.62 dots for 3:2 stills. At 16:9 video mode R7 has less than 1.44 million dots.
R5 cannot remove the 30minutes limit since the screen resolution exceed the EU limit.
They only owe a tax if there's a regulation in place. The regs are now gone. Without Canon commenting, I don't know for sure. Ive love to get a hold of someone to ask the question and not get a standard canned answer.
@Seti - that's wrong and old news. Regs are gone as of 2019/20.
That must have taken a lot of your time, you have a very understanding family. This is great news, especially for event video and studio work. But it is galling that after 30 mins you have to press record again. Obviously you might have to change the battery in any case if out in the field but with a fake battery power it's easy to forget to press record again. Does the camera log when the high temp mode is set and for how long ? This might cause the resale value to fall if it could be accessed (like shutter count). Or even the suspicion that it's been used might reduce resale values. What do you think ?
Simon l am aware you don't have an R6 but thought you would have bought up the fact that the R6 update apparently does a great job of removing IBIS wobble, maybe it coming in your next video.
I'm just focused on the overheat for the next few weeks, but will cover the wobble soon. The overheat is consuming a lot of free time. I was thinking of getting the RF 16mm to test it ;) I heard the fix is on the R5 too :) I will cover it.
Following yours and other youtubers advice i have only purchased angelbird cfexpress and ssd I have noticed the 512 g SE version has dropped in price recently which is encouraging and read on the Anglebird website and documentation that the SE reads at 1750mps and writes to 800mps, the R5 requires write speeds of 350mps. Do you have any thoughts As it would appear that the SE range could well be a good economic solution although largest CFexpress size is currently 512g
Curious if you have the battery grip that helps keep the heat down in the camera as well? I have an R5 and a Panasonic GH6, I don’t want I have to do long form recording without having to be able to change a battery in the GH6, I usually just record the SDXC because cfexpress cards get so hot that I think that’s one of the big energy users...certainly heat generator.
I've heard it does, but haven't felt the need to buy one yet.
How long can you record 4K 30fps before any overheating issues?
It seems to be a fundamental issue in many cameras that if you record for an extended period of time you will get overheating. Does it really make any sense to push your equipment to the point of damage? I don’t think so. Living in Australia this is a consideration.
I'm with you Steve. I'm back on standard mode. Knowing I can wrangle a few more minutes if I need to is great, but it won't be my default mode.
Canon can't give same capacity to 2500$ r6 , now i fell a7iv, gh5 ,gh6 , s5 are honest camara and great value of money
Thanks Simon. Great video. I know the time it takes to do all that testing. Appreciated 👍🏼
More tests scheduled for today :) Just waiting for the temp to get high.
How can an update change overheating issues thats insane
All about tolerances... They were being very conservative before...
Thanks for the testing; very helpful. I installed 1.6 on my R5 and was pumped to know the overheating issues were basically solved. Then I went on a real estate photo (not video) shoot and while I was outside only 20 minutes, the camera began to give the overheating red warning. The temperature outside was around 80 degrees. I was really surprised as this only happened rarely when shooting photos before. Have you been able to test your R5 in photo mode for overheating? Thanks
I hardly shoot stills, just video but I’m surprised to hear this. Was the lcd closed or open. I always shot video with this option. I also have lcd go to sleep right away. Photo mode isn’t supposed to cause an overheat.
@@OrdinaryFilmmaker thanks for the reply. Yes very surprising. LCD was closed. I do a lot of photography with R5 and have only had the red overheating warning 2 or 3 times and usually in more extreme conditions. I hope this is not a bug in the new firmware.
This is great news although 30 minute still there...hoping R6 gets same improvement
Surprised the R6 didn't get it, but the R6 has a different body that can't dissipate heat as well.
@@OrdinaryFilmmaker actually the R6 has a better dissipate of heat, considering the cool down times are much shorter comer to the R6. R5 has a problem that it accumulate more heat cause of better weather sealing. So I guess there is another reason the R6 didn't get it. Maybe the internals are not as heat resistant as the ones in the R5
Come on Canon, give us an R5 update which transforms it to C500 mark II, we deserve it :) :) Also, 10-500/1.4L for $1000 would be great :)
LOL - better luck turning the R5 into a C500 II than making a 10-500 f1.4 and selling it for $1000 ;)
Come on down here in California. 100 F is much guaranteed for the next few days till this coming weekend. No, Canon won't lift that 30 min. recording limit. R5 is stuck with it. I am sure R5 Mark II will not have that 30 min. recording limit. The firmware 1.6 is great.
I prefer the weather of norther California ;) I thought we were stuck with it too, but I also never thought we'd get a new overheat setting allowing recording for much longer...
My 'studio' is more like 78-82F regularly. Looking forward to testing out the new firmware myself. Great video - thanks for doing the heavy lifting for us.
Pete - that is the temperature that I normally start to melt ;) 80 degrees comes back Tuesday so hopefully I get good wether without much wind. :)
@@OrdinaryFilmmaker You don't have temps routinely over 100F either. 😀 (103F outside as I'm typing this)
True. The hotter it gets outside the higher temp I keep the house. I lived in Atlanta before... never dropped below 100 for weeks and very humid.
Yooo how did you get that R5 emoji.
@popcorn You get them when you become a member of the channel.
Does this apply to the R6 as well?
No sir.
Honestly that 30 minute limit is one of the only reasons why I haven’t switched back to canon. I film a podcast that usually runs from 45-60min+ . I can’t afford 3 cinema cameras so it’s 3 Sony apsc cams.
Come on Canon seriously, get your $h1t together.
Great video! Thank you! Today I will update my R5 camera!👌🏽
Glad it was helpful. When the temperature hits 80F today, I'll repeat the test in 8K Raw... see if it is still unlimited...
nice work. I dont know about the camera overheat flashing here in the uk but Ive been having a Overheat issue on myself LOL its been far toooooo Hot.
I dont think Ill ever need that sort of record time but its nice to know I can :)
No kidding... usually when it gets very hot I put the camera down and try to cool myself down...
This is great! Keep it up!
Thanks, will do!
Great Job!
Thank you Scott. Much appreciated.
Thank you for your test 👍🤗 Here im switzerland at this momenty R5 shut down with 1.5.2 firmware after 10min in standby 🤪😂
You're welcome. Thanks for watching. I'll redo the same tests when the temperature goes above 80/30C to see if we can still shoot unlimited.
Hey thanks for this Video Simon. I just downloaded the firmware is there any setting I need to change to get this unlimited record time?
Yes. Page 8 of the Video menu (first one), set "auto pwr temp off" to [High]
@@OrdinaryFilmmaker incredible thanks a ton!!!
So we don’t need the r5C
What power supplier that you used? Battery or DC adapter ?
Both. I state as much in the video. Batteries for 4K120 and 8K; Canon DC adapter for 4K HQ and 4K60
“Unlimited” recording needs to come with a big ASTERISK.
Unlimited* recording.
* In multiple segments artificially limited to 29:59** length
** 7:29 in 4K 120.
Canon really needs to be raked over the coals for keeping this limit in place. It needs to be abolished and it needs to happen now. There is ZERO justification for it.
We are all aware of this... silly thing 30 minutes... should never have been in the camera to begin with :(
@@OrdinaryFilmmaker I just really think this needs to be hammered home at each and every opportunity to shame Canon into action.
Great job! Thank you
Thanks Matt for watching.
THere is still a 29:59 limit on the R6 fw 1.6.0
Doing an interview? Can you imagine doing an interview and having to break in middle to let your camera cool down? It’s not a good option for interviews.
Agreed. If I did that. I'd have a Ninja on top to ensure proper exposure, larger monitor and avoid starting and stopping.
They should have done something similar with the R6
Agreed, but the R6 doesn't have the same body and can't dissipate heat as well.
I shoot with IPB most of the time which saves space, and the card won’t be that hot.
IPB is amazing ho well it works when you realize the math behind it.
You spent a lot of time making accurate measurements...
Next time you test any camera point it full screen at ESPN on a TV monitor
And be surprised
Shooting a wall is not a realistic test
R3 195 frames per second raw????? Fro said so?
Fro is a photographer first. I don't get the sense he is interested in video much... that would explain "so"...
@@OrdinaryFilmmaker Yup. I prefer your info so, have you tested fps after this R5 update? Sorry I wasn’t specific. I’m an R5 guy photographer, not video…yet. 🤗😉
Also, funny writing to you as I am watching you on my flat screen.
This is all after the update. I have plenty of videos that cover the R5 with update 1.1.0.
Yeah but it's without AFC it's like having it in a manual mode... No good
Canon please remove the 30 minute record limit for all cameras now.
yes, please!!!
Nothing for r6 but 2k5 € its a shame !
Still that stupid 30 min recording limit
Someone in Canon management has figured out they need to have the pedal to the metal. The truth is that camera sales have been tanking for years now thanks to most folks settling for the phone in their pocket as a great camera. Combined with Sony and Nikon bringing it, Canon has to go, go, go or literally become a thing of the past. This is just the beginning of what Canon will have to put out in the next 5 years.
The R5 is a very serious camera being the first to market with many capabilities. I've never seen canon release so many firmware updates with so many enhancements. The camera is vastly improved over what was first released.
The amazing thing with new tech is being able to add features and improve cameras capabilities by just a firmware update - Not something available for my AE-1, T-90, Pentax ME-1 or Bronica SQ(?) back in the day. We sure complain a lot, but this feature of upgrading is amazing . Don’t tell anyone, but I would pay for some of them as opposed to a whole new camera - makes the resale value stay strong a lot longer
Canon r5 is a useless 4K camera
As you can see, your attempt to troll has gone unnoticed, but thanks for the engagement. It all helps :)
Happy for all the R5 users. I sold my R5 six weeks ago. I’m using the R5C and R3 for video only. The R5C paired with anamorphic is mind blowing.
I can only imagine ;)
Are you using external power on the R5C? Heard that the batteries are too small for that beast of a camera and last very little amount of time.
Just loving your scientific experiments to ensure what Canon promises actually delivers. A lot of youtubers do the same thing, do a bunch of experiments and announce the findings
I did a lot of testing in August 2020. I haven't tested many firmware updates, but this one fundamentally changes how we approach video. I'm a little concerned about keeping the camera in a high heat mode so thought I'd better do a good solid review. Thanks for watching Mr Mayor.
What kind of evil sorcery is this…from 20ish minut to unlimited that is pretty Dope
;)
Does anyone else's R5 battery life seem to be worse after the update?
No. I did a live stream yesterday and the battery life was fine. However, when shooting int he high heat mode, the battery doesn't last as long. Standard mode and its fine.
@@OrdinaryFilmmaker Sorry, yeah I meant in the new mode. Glad I am not alone.
So can you record nonstop in 4k 30fps or less without time limit on the R5 or not? You first said that issue was resolved, then you said it wasn't resolved half way into this presentation. Which is it? Resolved unlimited no time limit recording or not?
Thanks so much for your in-depth testing and information 💚
You are so welcome. I've now left the setting to high...
Great video! Thanks for doing it. You're HILARIOUS though with your crutch: punching only your LAST word of almost every sentence. I'm a broadcaster, so I'm trained to notice stuff like that (most people won't) but I thought I'd mention it in case you weren't aware of it yourself. In TV News, we're taught to punch (or emphasize) the most important word in each phrase (as you would in normal speech) and numbers (when they're important or not.) You've been doing it for so long there's probably no way you're gonna change at this point, but if you do or don't, YOU'RE GREAT!!!!
Now I'll be aware of it, but I not too worried either. I've always taken to this as something fun and a hobby. Perhaps I'll pay more attention to it and play with it... ;)
What about R6 video record limits.?
My Angelbird is flaking and brittle and I rarely ever take it out now so I need to eject my Sd just to be able to grip my CfExpress and My AB card plastic is a brittle fragile mess.... I LOVED THIS card when I got it ---- BUT I advise you warn people they are BRITTLE - I am kind of shocked to be honest... the plastic even snapped off on the bottom where the pins are protected... Guess I will still be using the ninja v+ so I dont melt my card
Reach out to the company. It's covered under warranty.
good update
No ones talking about the crop short cut. I know many were complaining about unable to assign a button for this.
I'm focused on the overheating. Then I'll attack other aspects of the firmware update. Overheating has been the Bain of this camera ;)
Thank you for your all reports!
What do you think. Why didnt Canon insert this high temp Feature for the r6? :(
A way of separating the two cameras, and the R6 doesn't have the same shell. The R5 can better dissipate heat than the R6 too.
@@OrdinaryFilmmaker Okay, thank you :)
With your tests you had the same results that I got with my R5 after the firmware update 1.6.0 I too have like you my R5 since July 2020. Now we can say that the only mode that is still slightly problematic at overheating is the 4k 120fps. In my opinion this is one of the reasons why Canon has not yet removed the recording limit of 30 min (or 7min50sec in slowmo) surely the company does not want consumers to push too much overheating with the 4k 120fps. In summary, personally, I quite happy with this firmware 1.6.0. because I can now do 4k oversampled 8k, the mode I like the most from the Canon R5!
Encouraging. On your video tests shooting in 4K oversampled 8K (4K HQ), what was the ambient temperature? What were the results?
@@CarlLoop I filmed more than 2h30min with no overheating, the screen open in an indoor ambient temperature of 78 degrees fahrenheit
Unlimited recording and very limited lens selection!
I guess it's cool that the camera is more flexible now but honestly I think we need to just bite the bullet and admit we need active cooling in these cameras now. Something I wish Fuji did with their latest release as well.
Active cooling, even a small fan would be useful. It doesn't have to be internal to work or affect weather sealing.
@@OrdinaryFilmmaker If anything just some heatsinks would go a long way. Wouldn't compromise sealing at all that way.
@@aviationrambler Interesting. Some who use the GoPro say a small metal cage around the GoPro (like a SmallRig cage) acts as a heat sink and reduces the internal heat. Maybe a similar thing for the R5? Hmmm...
@@CarlLoop If anything it would make thermals worse. Yes metal is more thermally conductive than plastic, but you want as little material between the heat source and the air. That said, the best bet would be to have a contact plate with the processor, a heat pipe to carry the heat away, and have the back panel be something thermally conductive instead of plastic which an insulator. Even better would be the R5C setup where even without the fan, having metal fins in there would increase surface area in contact with air, and would help tremendously.
I am from Iraq, I have a temperature of 40 degrees Celsius after the update, or do I face any problem in the heat when recording 8k video
I'll address in the next few weeks as the weather gets hotter. I would expect that we lose the ability to have unlimited recording at 40C, but will have to test 80 and then 90F first.
I shot a wedding last June when we had record high temps over 44C . The HDMI to SDI adapters , pro JVC & Sony Video cameras, Atomos Shinobi , and all other recording equipment stopped, except for my Canon R5 and 1DXMarkiii …. They all warn of use range to 35C-40C max … I had to put cold towels on the adapters and they still shut down . It was horrible as the only media we got came via the cameras.
Thanks!
Very generous Martin. Thanks so much. I'm just happy you watch on a regular basis :)
Any rumours on similar Overheating improvements for the R6 coming in future firmware?
None.
@@OrdinaryFilmmaker well this overheating fix came so out of the blue. I can’t think of any technical reason it can be improved so much on the R5 but not the R6. ? I haven’t lost hope that it drops a few months later like c log 3 did. First for r5 then r6.
@@LatexFashionTV the internals are different, that could be the reason...
@@TomislavMoze absolutely. But the bodies are of a similar size with same heat dissipation requirements and up until this R5 firmware dropped I’d have said an overheating was was impossible - so here’s hoping for a similar stealth drop on the new R6 firmware in a few months. 😀
@@LatexFashionTV owning both of them I have to say that they are only similar size there are so many different reactions to heat, R6 cools down faster, but also reacts more to the outside temperatures compare to the r5 that really takes time to cool down after it overheated but if you shoot in a really hot environment it will not influence the overheating as it does with the R6. i guess most of it due to the weather sealing, but having different cards and body I presume that also the whole heat dissipation is handled differently, also the materials of the camera are different so maybe the r6 does not react well to higher temperatures cause of it.
Thanks for this! excited for the other tests
You're very welcome!
Great video! I'll be updating my firmware soon. I'm curious how it'll perform in the triple digit weather here in Sacramento, California.
Still the 30 minute recording limit is still there on R6 and R5.
No kidding... but I wasn't expecting 1.6 to be a big update. Thought they had given us everything and were focusing on the II. Maybe they will remove it...
@@OrdinaryFilmmaker i do hope so. I usually film in fullhd, and when you record like a class or anything that goes over 30 minutes, and you are solo, you kinda get annoyed by the limitation. Especially since in Europe the provision has been abrogated a few years ago.
This is such a great firmware update, although I can't say I have fully tried it , but it give much needed peace of mind while using your camera now 👍
It seemed to be a rather sleep update, but turns out to be quite amazing.
Great video! Thanks Simon
Glad you enjoyed it Michael!
This is huge. Why did canon wait this long, far after people dismissed the camera?
I sense it could be the possible risk of it not going well. If it started damaging cameras it could have been a nightmare...
16:24 great points from here on with regards to heat effects within material science.
I think I aged my camera a few months from this video ;)
@@OrdinaryFilmmaker hopefully not by much.😊
Angelbird AV PRO CF Express MK2 TYPE B 4TB - 24 390 SEK here in Sweden ( 2200 Dollar US ) Ouch....
8K RAW will be expensive....
They aren't cheap, but you're getting a very large P/E or TBW number. I'd suggest getting the 1TB at US$479 - far more affordable. Keep an eye out for Black Friday deals. Then next year get another... 1TB still give you over 30 minutes ;)
Honestly, I would go for the Angelbird 512GB SE Card and RAW Lite.
Thanks for this detailed test! Just one question, what difference is there when using an SD card?
I don’t use a CFExpress card yet, I generally shoot with the 4K HQ and 4K 60p. Do you have any data on the potential damage to an SD card or if it runs hotter or less hot?
Likely very little. It would require additional testing. For all future tests, I'll use the same cards and keep the SD card slot empty.
@@OrdinaryFilmmaker Gotcha! I just received my R7 for my B cam.
You are able to still use an sd cad for 60p?
Always excellent
Thanks again!
YAY
i love my R5. it has been a revelation
I know, i have shot my camera nearly every single day. It is such a joy to use. I LOVE the R5. Mine has taken serious spills - i have the carepak and I will have to send my body in soon, but it is hard to part with and there aren't any critical issues; just minor inconveniences...
They really do last a long time. I wish my car performed as well.
I suggest you to test noise floor level going up with temperature on 8k raw recording with maximum ISO. Hot sensor has more noise and as a result - lower dynamic range. I believe that this is a sacrifice they did with this update.
Keep some very dark detailed picture in the shot to see if it ramps up noise reduction.
Very good point Max. You're the first to mention this. I've been wondering this myself.