The Comic That Ruined Batman For No Reason
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@Huggbees "You don't know from screwed" is a turn on the phrase "you don't know from adam" which in turn is from "I don't know you from adam," which you'd have heard if you've seen golden age films.
I'd love to hear your take on the comic that ruined Mr. Freeze. That being the New 52 "Batman: The Tourment of Mr. Freeze"
It takes one of the most well-written & compelling villains completely undermines every good thing about them.
I feel if you really look at 300 and sin city you realise the writing is just as bad
Now to follow up with Frank Miller's holt terror.
Why is every fucking line in this comic written like "I took a huge shit in the toilet this morning. A *real* nasty shit. Shouldn't have had those leftovers last night, but a midnight snack was too tempting. *Far* too tempting."
For real. It comes off like the inner monologue of a complete mental case.
So glad someone noticed the extremely stupid way they write these lines they make my head feel funny
Entire dialogue in a nutshell: Because I said so. You got a mission, a mighty big fucking mission. I'm the goddamn Batman!😂😂
Actually, if you are 10 years old this is EPIC. Same level of EPIC as uhm..Slipknot for example.Feels good in theory, but gets absolute shit when you get older and know more things xD
Because Frank Miller wrote Sin City and every single thing he writes is stuffed full of internal monologue.
I can't remember who said it, but someone important said "If your Batman wouldn't comfort a scared child, you haven't written Batman, you've written Punisher in a bat suit." This REALLY brought that to mind with how he treated Dick.
It was said by Overly Sarcastic Productions
Not even Punisher is that cruel with kids
Imagine fucking up so hard, Garth Ennis is more child friendly
It was Red from Overly Sarcastic Productions, who you can find further up this comments section ∑:3
@@eddiediaz5518Honestly, I feel like a well-written Frank Castle _would_ be the kind of guy to comfort a frightened child, especially since he lost his own children to organized crime. He probably wouldn’t be very good at it, but he’d at least try to reduce their trauma as much as possible (I’m imagining him covering the kid’s eyes as he helps them walk to the police station so that the kid won’t have to see all the dead bodies of Frank’s many victims).
I realize I’m sort of getting off-track with this, but to circle back to OP’s point: if I can imagine a scenario where the fucking _Punisher_ displays more empathy and compassion towards an innocent child than _Batman_ displays in this story, then that means something has gone horribly wrong.
This iteration of ‘Batman’ makes a whole lot more sense if you imagine that it’s actually some war veteran with severe PTSD who one day became an obsessed Batman impersonator, meanwhile the real Batman is off somewhere fighting Condiment King in space or something.
that's such a good idea. Why hasn't anyone thought of that yet?
The fact I could literally imagine an issue of Batman involving Condiment King making a plan to launch a giant ketchup from outer space to Earth
I think It makes more sense knowing Miller is a coke addict
choosing to take this as canon
OK, but now I actually want to read that.
Why did Batman kidnap a 12 year old child? Is he stupid?
Cause this isn't Batman, it's Crazy Steve
Yes
Man
He got jonkled
Fartman was just kidding like the jinkler
I'm sorry, but if you ever write Batman saying
"I love my job/being Batman"
Then you've fundamentally misunderstood Batman
Except the comic where Batman is like 75 and goes on one last mission and actually has fun.
Actually, it could work if you want to write Batman as a deranged psychopath in some kind of dark twisted alternative universe with a hint of realism (after all putting on a carnival costume and running around punching thugs on the street isn't the best way to cope with the death of your parents).
Ehhh
He spends his time keeping hs community safe. I think there's a positive way to spin that.
@@kindlingkingSo... the thing writers keep doing constantly that nearly every Batman fan hates
@@colbyboucher6391 shitty writers*
You have to be really good to pull something like this off and unfortunately most who tried were just edgy 14yr olds mentally.
Batman calling a traumatised child retarded is still the funniest thing I've heard in a long while.
The smack across the face when he starts to grieve for his parents killed me
Batman: “What are you gonna do, huh? Gonna cry? Gonna piss your pants, you little baby? _Boo-hoo, my parents are dead, and now I’m alone and scared and don’t know how to deal with the harsh reality of life at a young age!_ That’s what _you_ sound like.”
Robin: “…This is weirdly personal and specific, are you okay?”
Batman: “Don’t ask me about my _feelings!_ Feelings are _stupid!_ Feelings are for scared little babies who don’t know how to cope with their parents dying in front of them in an alley! Real men bury their trauma deep down behind layers of money and kicking muggers’ asses and wearing black spandex!”
Robin: “…I feel like you might be projecting a little bit-“
Batman: “LALALALA I CAN’T HEAR YOU I’M BATMAN LALALALALA”
Its bizarre that this character seen as a selfless protector was written to call a orphaned child a slur, smack the shit out of him, and gas him. The fact it got passed the board room really is magnificent
90% of other Batman incarnations would knock the lights out of him if they would ever hear him say that to a child
@@guyman9655 Most people wouldn't have considered it a slur. We were still about 5-6 years away from Rosa's Law. And before mental retardation, the words for intellectual disability that even the most liberal people you know probably continue to use as insults to this day, yet they were never considered slurs. So no writer using it here would have characterized it as Batman using a slur.
You know, I don’t really think Superman needs a justification to be mad that a child was kidnapped. That’s something that most people would have a problem with.
I think it's more that people read that assuming Clark already knows bruce and thus would know there's probably a more reasonable explanation then "batman kidnaps child!" would imply, plus he'd be able to just go talk to bruce instead of having to speculate on why, and it seems like the fact the justice league doesn't exist yet and the pair aren't friends yet is revealed and explained later
i just realized that huggbees talks with his hands 1:10:30
look into his eyes
I think it's more the way the anger was portrayed. Yes superman would get angry at something like that, but he's way more sensible than acting as if he wanted to rip batman a new asshole. In other situations similar, while not including batman, show superman simple finding and apprehending them.
Most?
This version of Bruce would be on the Epstein list.
Probably scouting for more “Robins”
Or probably take down Epstein just to get rid of competition.
That's what I said bro
“I love being the goddamn BATMAN” is such a ridiculous line that the Lego Batman movie uses it as a punchline for comedic effect multiple times to highlight what an absolute douche bag he is.
Holy shit All-Star Batman really IS just LEGO Batman if he was allowed to swear
@@halfmettlealchemist8076OH MY GOD HE IS
@@halfmettlealchemist8076😭 youre totally right
@@halfmettlealchemist8076and was not as well written
@@halfmettlealchemist8076but taken seriously
Fun fact: Linkara doesn't consider this guy as Batman. So he calls him "Crazy Steve" any time he refers to this comic.
i was so confused by everyone calling him Crazy Steve, didn't know it was an inside joke from the Lightbringer
Damn, I had no idea that the gay dead muppets guy has reached that many people to where it becomes such a big thing.
He's a doofus but he knows his batman
The Lightbringer!
Fun fact: I guess Linkara is still around
Every single panel involving Wonder Woman is Frank Millers way of communicating to the world “I want a woman with high heels to step on me while I tell mommy how pathetic I am”
Relatable
This actually describes a LOT of Millers writing I think. You've cracked the code you madman! You've DONE IT!
So funny that Diana’s original weakness was being bound by any man. Literally could not be a less disguised fetish if it was shouting it from the roof.
Hwhat...@@Celestial914
Perhaps I treated him too harshly
I seriously don't know why Barbatos didn't recruit this Batman instead of the Batman who laughs
This guy is an even greater menace to society
Maybe even he was too much for Barbatos.
At least we all wouldn’t be absolutely sick to death of seeing TBWL then.
Crazy Steve has a lot of plot armor as hes batman. but batman who laughs is batman BUT EVIL. To the point that writers took his plot armor to cosmic levels.
Im going to sleep.
f the batman who laughs
After seeing Batman laughing for no reason and saying he loves being the Goddamn Batman, I was starting to wonder if this was really an origin story for Batman Who Laughs!
If you had no concept of Batman and read this, the first issues would 100% make you think that Bruce payed off the assassin to kill the kid's parents.
Not only that, it would be super simple for anyone in the comic to draw thos connectins. Not Bruce, but Batman. Dude just happens to be in the same place where the kid's parents are murdered, by a man who is known to be essentially a criminal mercenary, and then he immediately kidnaps the now orphaned child. That should've been Vicki Vale's big scoop.
I have seen batman and know what it is but i still think that batman was behind dick's parent's death.
And with or without that concept, you would still recognize the name “Jocko-Boy Vanzetti” is one of the dumbest ever written.
😆🤣🤣🤣👌👌👌👌
I mean, I do know robin's origin story and I still thought that.
It's like someone took all the jokes about Robin being kidnapped and groomed by Batman and put them all in one story UNIRONICALLY
In that context, it'd could be seen as a dark meta joke on that very thing.
@@viscountrainbows2857
It's the sorta thing that isn't usually published unironically in an official DC release. It'd be like Superman fucking his cousin unironically instead of only being hinted and joked about by people with a lack of imagination (obviously, the better joke is that since Kara looks like a white human female she should indulge in classic white women behavior and mess around with Krypto the Super-dog instead).
That is literally it though
@@viscountrainbows2857still trash
Superman and alfred are the only likeable characters in these stories.
ah, yes, Bruce “I adopt every orphan I see” Wayne would totally hit a traumatized child. Super in character 👍🏻
don't forget that this is also bruce "i don't kill anyone, ever" wayne
@@ConsarnitTokkoriAnd Bruce “I don’t want anyone to suffer the same way I have” Wayne. You know. Totally the kinda guy who would force an orphan to eat rats.
@@Cheetahgirl_Studios tbf that one is subject to exact words
@@ConsarnitTokkori True. But regardless, he wouldn’t make the orphans in his care eat rats or live in a cave.
@@Cheetahgirl_Studios fair
but he drinks bats, like a bat would, so i don't think he'd have time to see if peepee desaturatedchild would drink water or anarchy instead
Okay, I get that these are all scumbags, and scumbags written by Frank Miller at that, but calling Batgirl a "fucking little piece of jailbait ass" is the wildest shit I've ever seen on a comic book that's been published by a mayor company.
IM UPSET HE DIDN'T MENTION THAT BECAUSE YEAH THAT LINE IS???
WHAT?!
Bro 💀
It was her who called herself that...
@@thecandlemaker1329why
Batman calling Robin a retard is both the funniest and the most confusing thing I’ve seen
This comment gave me the strength to watch this whole video so i could find this part.
But it's honestly something I'm surprised I haven't seen Batman do until now.
@@CerealExperimentsMizuki I couldn’t disagree more, while I’m not a comic guy from what I’ve seen I can’t imagine Batman swearing in anything besides a spur of the moment let alone calling anyone a slur
@@glowbies9416 Everyone knows the Robin memes, I was making a sarcastic joke. We all very much know that Batman won't swear at Robin for no reason.
i love how its so dumb it fits this version of batman greatly
I'll be honest, I'm not 100% convinced Batman wasn't the one who called the hit on Dick's parents because he didn't want to wait for the kid.
Wouldn't put it past this batman.
I was thinking the same thing, that would explain a lot
Batman and robin eternal heavily hint that how batman got Robins 1 2 and 3 were with alot more deceptive then what was originally shown. Good read as well
That's exactly what Owlman did to recruit Dick on Earth-3.
Same.
Does Frank Miller just have a thing for Gordon cheating on his wife? It happens in Year One as well
Just misogyny.
See also a certain web-comic where Frank Miller is UNABLE to create a fictional woman who is NOT a whore.
He's like Agatha Christie
Somehow makes Sarah's death in No Man's Land cathartic in a twisted darkly humorous way...
I think this is supposed to sort of happen in the same canon so that's why it was included.
Can we talk about the random capitalization in this comic and how amazing it would be if he had screamed all the randomly capitalized words
I wouldn't at all be surprised if that was intentional
I'm the GODDAMN Batman, with my GODDAMN Batmobile. Don't GODDAMN forget about the GODDAMN Batarang too. Oh, how DARE you MOCK what I CALL my GODDAMN things. Are you DENSE? I'm the GODDAMN Batman. SHUT up.
its like jeff kinney
@@sibling_of_sinGUYS I HAVE A THEORY
@@commercialairliner i'm listening
"Boss, we miscalculated at the beginning of the quarter and ordered way too many 'shut up's and 'goddamn's! If we don't move them all before the end of the financial quarter we'll have to report the loss to our stockholders!"
-R
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this comic did NOT deserve how good that art is omg
Jim lee😂
May I recommend Batman: Hush? It’s another Batman comic with art by Jim Lee (the artist of this comic) and it’s famous for different reasons than ASBAR is - i.e., actually being very well-written.
Hush is a classic!!!!
@@halfmettlealchemist8076Oh, yeah. Hush. The comic everyone remembers because of the Jason Todd reveal and The Riddler instead of.. you know, Hush himself.
@@lazaroskarmaniolas7410 That, and Batman's short but incredibly memorable moment with Superman that actually understands their relationship. And then there's Commissioner Gordon, whose appearance actually explains he has limits to Batman's antics.
Batman: Hush is a prime example that a superhero comic can be incredibly fun even if the plot point turns out to be mediocre. Hush himself is a poor villain and the sequels don't make him any better. It's still a memorable book nevertheless because the characters are intriguing and the actions are fun. Despite the disappointing main bad guy, the book did almost everything else right.
I'm starting to think that this version of batman is literally called "goddamn batman" and people just call him "batman" for simplicity
Why is no one pointing out the fact that in Batman’s editing of Robin’s costume, he literally gave him THE TIGHTEST AND SHORTEST SHORTS HUMANLY POSSIBLE.
Is Batman just a groomer in this universe?! Because like-
Side note: collectors are the funniest people. Imagine paying 140 dollars for a comic that you CAN’T READ.
You say that, but if what Batman says about Dick in the Dark Knight Strikes Back is any indication (can't believe both of these take place in the same world as Year One & TDKR) YES. HE IS. WHICH MAKES HIS RELATIONSHIP WITH CARRIE EVEN WORSE
I buy video games to PLAY them, not STORE them!
@@eonnexus BRO WHAT DID HE SAY??
@@yame4467 Bruce calls him several pet names (Peach, Blossom, & Plum) while Dick talks about how he loved Bruce and would've done anything for him, with Bruce responding with "you're breaking my heart" and that's not even mentioning Carrie, who Dick calls jailbait while he and Bruce both talk about how Bruce loves her (it's supposed to read like a father-daughter relationship, but even with the text itself saying it, IT DOESN'T.) The entire scene reads WAY TOO MUCH like Dick is a bitter ex trying to get payback against Bruce and his new "fling"
@@eonnexus OH MY GOD??? THAT IS SO 💀💀💀 I'VE HEARD STUFF ABOUT WRITERS MAKING DICK ACT LIKE A BITTER EX INSTEAD OF A HURT SON WHO FEELS ABANDONED AND BETRAYED BY HIS FATHER, BUT THIS IS WILD ALSO THEPET NAMES 💀💀
It’s ironic that All Star Superman is regarded as greatest Superman comic while All Star Batman is regarded as one of the worst Batman comic
Because Allstar Superman is about a man trying to as much good as he can. ASBAR is about a lunatic who Batbatos and the Dark Knights think is a little too much
One story did everything it could to show a possible ending to a character's story, giving closure to their relationships and paying homage to their entire legacy.
The other tried to retell the origin of a character while reframing their legacy around some of the character's worst aspects.
@@michaeliv284 asbar more like assbar
@@hunterfox6176 I have to say, it feels like Frank Miller's "Liberal Strawmen" like the psychologist from Dark Knight Returns - wrote this. Like someone hates Batman and projects bad things onto him.
Kind of like how marvel’s ultimate universe is considered one of the worst comic entries yet has the best Spider-Man version they written so far
This comic is litteraly every terrible Batman stereotype wrapped up in one giant turd.
Think of all the PREP TIME he had before confronting Green Lantern with his brilliant plan.
Does the Joker lay an egg? Seriously asking, I haven't read it
@@stevem.o.1185No but he very realisticly domesticly abuses a women before killing her while talking like a real creeper that is so out of character for him.
@@Pikachu2Ash Well, the killing and the domestic abuse are pretty on brand.
@@Pikachu2Ashsorry, what part of that is out of character for the joker?
I feel like Zack Snyder would absolutely love this comic.
Nah he'd critique it for him not killing people
And couldn't recognize the obvious irony
He doesn't know batman so he would be mad that batman isn't killing a entire city because the nearby McDonald's ice cream machine broke
@@Man_Aslumehis Batman based off of The Dark Knight Returns
Having a dad who was born in the 30s, I can say that "You don't know from screwed" is meant to be used similarly to "You don't *know* screwed." The response "You don't know the half of it" also fulfills a very similar purpose. I've included a comparison here, using "pain" as our focal word. (Please do not stop to ask why the Edgelord, The Goddamned Batman, and the SURPRISE THIRD GUEST are hovering around the Poor Bastard; that way lies only madness).
(Poor bastard reading this comic) "Gah...I'm in so much pain..."
(Edgelord) "You don't *know* pain..."
(TGDBM) "You don't know from pain..."
(Person giving more eloquent response) "Oh, you haven't even *begun* to know pain...but you will."
The evolution of language is wack
Why is Alfred objectively the best character here? He's attractively muscular, actually empathetic, and has a closer relationship to the love-interest character than Bruce.I think Alfred is the actual protagonist and Batman is actually the villain.
That's what I'm talking about! That's why he's the MVP! That's why he's the GOAT; the GOAT!
From what I’ve seen it’s almost impossible to make Alfred unlikeable. Even in the worst Batman stories he’s generally great.
He’s the best part of any BatMan story
Alfred has always been the best character what are you talking about
Alfred is the unsung hero
This story feels like a fan fiction joker would write to troll the actual Batman just for shits and giggles.
I can imagine what the villains and criminals think how Batman is after the moment Batman was unmasked in Arkham Knight.
So the reason behind his primary henchman here being Nazi Chick from "Dark Knight Returns" is because Harley ticked him off again?
Yeah, defiantly
I literally thought that exact same thing lol
new headcanon just dropped
Honestly surprised you didn’t mention the insane time fuckery in this thing that leads to stuff like Dick Grayson having his missing posters in newspapers and on milk cartons all while he and Batman are still driving to the Batcave.
After seeing his parents gravestone, I just had to wonder "Did he really just leave Dick trapped in the Batcave for days or weeks until he could convince him to become Robin?! Further making him look like the criminal here, and psychologically manipulating him into telling the media it was to protect him?!
It feels like J. Jonah Jameson wrote this comic to get the Daily Bugle invested in the comic book industry, as a fiction that'll show kids the true problems with vigilantism and TURN ALL THE KIDDIES AGAINST SPIDER-MAN!
... or, at least that's how it comes off.
Frank Miller has the uncanny ability to write some of the greatest comic stories ever told only to immediately follow them up with some of the most absolutely fucking unhinged batshit nonsense ever put to ink.
Haha batshit
Perfectly balanced, like all artists should be
yeah that's kinda the thing with great artists
You put them on a bit of a leash and they'll give you gold. You let them go off, they'll go wild
Hehe, you said "batshit"
I was introduced to him in middle school, thinking he was the shit.
Thank God I grew up.
This comic feels like if batman was a "The Boys" villain
Especially the "Fucking in public in front of the people who you just set on fire" beat
And unlike the boys, it's trying to present batman as the good guy unironically
This is batman written by homelander stans
At the very least, it's not comic The Boys
@@nuclearcatpotatoe3714 I see your Garth Ennis’s The Boys, and raise you “Crossed” by Garth Ennis. Imagine a comic like The Walking Dead, with people like The Crazies instead of zombies, created by Garth Ennis (basically Garth Ennis with complete Carte Blanche )
Does that last bit happen in the boys?
@@froobleton
Sorta, Homelander fucks Stormfront after they explode the head of a criminal in an alleyway
@sawtooth808 And just when I forgot this comic existed, boom you reminded me of when I read it all in one or two nights and never wanted to pick up something else made by Garth Ennis lol
the start literally sounds like some sort of batman erotic fan fiction with the reporter being the main character
"I couldn't pay attention to what he was saying because he was just so hot with those eyes" I imagine that was in the draft of the comic and was scrapped for the "the more he says, the less I know" part
the fact that this whole thing is so irrational that Superman being upset that dude kidnapped a child just because _dude kidnapped a child and that is not ok_ seems so surprising that you didn't even consider it as an option really shows how f up it is, huh
“I love being the goddamn BATMAN” sounds like something out of a bad fanfic where the oc gets isekai’d into DC and becomes Batman, but wildly misunderstands what Batman is supposed to be like and just goes on a powertrip.
Honestly I'd rather reincarnate into Diana or Kal-El or Kile Reiner, hell I'd go for John Constantine, he'd be basically my Twin.
This story even has the cartoonish levels of sexism of an isekai.
That's not what this is?
@@asackboyplush6508 no, this is a cannon part of D.C. history.
@@CerealExperimentsMizuki dude I'm making a goof
It’s quite impressive how a then-48-year-old could capture the writing style of the fanfics of a COD-obsessed pre-teen so flawlessly. I mean, it’s got all the pointless swears, one-dimensional female characters, and overall edginess.
Maybe thats why it sold so amazingly. It is garbage, but garbage very aware of what most people wanted to the time. Kinda like Fear 2.
the preteens got it from guys like Miller, tbh
The author of this batman should make a shadow the hedgehog comic
@icephoenix174 hey, that game was made in 2005, same year as this comic ran, yeah? Sounds perfect.
What happened to Miller to make him go from TDKR to this?
I think superman using a car to transport a person is kinda smart. If he speeds up slowly enough it would allow him to travel way faster without harming the person inside. I like that better than other situations where superheroes drag around people to "save them" but the sudden speed up should more likely rip them to pieces.
13:32 Yeah, no, the art is beautiful ....... BUT this panel be looking straight up like a Stop Child S** Abuse poster, and Batman's monologue sure as hell ain't making it any better. WTF, DC???
Imagine paying full price for a well drawn Batman comic by an industry legend, and it's about him & Robin painting themselves yellow and drinking lemonade to piss off Green Lantern, and basically nothing else happens
That synopsis sounds better than whatever the fuck this is
Honestly, that would make a much better comedy based Batman series
Considering that Batman is a character that is well characterized as being someone who is logical and direct, I see two potential choices for making him a bit more in character in regards to having him use yellow against Green Lantern.
The first, though not the best option, would be to make it so that is the most logical route to take as if every other choice would cause something bad to happen. This seems difficult to implement as it would usually require having a villain to counter every option, of which would require quite a bit of effort.
The second, seemingly more ideal option, would be to make it the correct choice by adding another problem that being yellow can solve. In this case, we'll assume that Batman is someone who is intent on solving problems themselves. Next, have a character, lets assume Wonder Woman, who although in some ways agrees with Batman's moral code, thinks that the best solution is to use violence. After some debate on how to communicate with Green Lantern, Batman decides to show how violence isn't always the best solution, decides to paint the room in yellow.
The yellow would then be the seemingly best answer as it would show that violence isn't always considered the best option in a very obvious manner, and would also allow him to talk to Green Lantern in person in a relatively safe manner.
But then again, I barely read any comics, and if this were the case, we wouldn't have The Batman boldly telling everyone to shut up in a cartoon-like fashion.
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Fun fact: The first issue of this comic is one of only three Batman comics I own. I got it free at a garage sale. I still paid too much for it.
HELL, you should’ve been paid for getting it. I don’t care that Jim Lee pencilled it, I want my money back even if I read it for free.
The first issue? Goodness...at last it isn't the worst, per se, but it ain't really the best of the ten either!
You need to go back to that house and demand they pay YOU.
The price was your sanity
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27:00 "i hope to hell i know what im doing."
THE WRITERS SURE DIDNT
Gordon cheating on his wife is something Miller loves to write. It’s consistent to his Gordon. And since he wrote Year One’s Gordon that basically makes it law to the character
To paraphrase OSP, if you cant see a version of batman genuinely comforting a child, hes been written wrong. Batman is kind.
This makes me remember a quote from I think it was Amanda Waller: "There's no member of the Justice League that cares about people more than Batman."
@@jahrusalem3658we all know why that is.
@@jahrusalem3658even Arkham Batman in his insanity is way kinder than this bat shit insane Batman
Also a quote from osp-“on the subject on King Kong there’s think pieces about various ways that I can be interpreted, but I don’t think that it’s exactly controversial to suggest that a movie made in the 30s about a giant savage ape, who is captured by white men transported across the ocean in chains and abducts a white woman could have some racial coding involved can we just except the giant ape is probably racist(says the racist woman)” red is racist and pretentious bud also who tf doesn’t know Batman is meant to be kind.
@@sandyjourneys wait since when is Red racist?
Why is Batgirl wearing earrings? Not just earrings, but dangling earrings. That is probably the worst possible accessory to wear while fighting crime. A criminal could easily grab them and rip her ears up. Not only would it hurt like hell, it would also be very noticeable and hard to explain to her parents.
Earrings with the logos of all the main JL members, to boot
Some of Batgirl's costumes tend to be somewhat fashion-esque. I guess that's her thing.
My first thought was that they were clip-on earrings with some sort of trick functionality to them - like, maybe they double as a com-link, or maybe she can detach them and throw them at enemies like emergency Batarangs. But that would imply a level of competency and skill that every female character in this book is fundamentally incapable of, because this book is more misogynistic than a working-class middle-aged man in the 1950s.
As long as she doesn’t wear a hood she’ll be fine.
@@halfmettlealchemist8076the author had to restrict himself from making Batman go “Barbra, where’s my god damn bat-tini
Why tf does this Batman talk and act like he's perpetually high. 😂
I lost it at the "I hope I know what I'm doing" part.
What happens if Vivziepop made a Batman Comic:
I WAS LOOKING FOR THIS
@@eduardodavidsuarezluna4337 👍 Glad to be of help
Not enough gays and swearing...
"I'm the FUCKING Batman"
Frank miller son or vivziepop daughter
All Star Batman feels like a parody of Batman in The Boys universe told unironically. Just sprinkled in Bruce Wayne being an actual child molester, replaced 'shut up' with MW2 era lobby slur, and it's fit right in The Boys universe
The comic or show?
@@KWBR1123Comic of course.
@@KWBR1123if it was the show they would’ve added an Epstein island joke
a child WHAT???
CHILD WJAT!!!!
I'm not gonna lie, Batman was being so terrible for so much of the story that the thought crossed my mind that it was Batman who called the hit on Dick's parents in order to get him to be his sidekick. Then Batman poisoning the hitman so that his mind is messed up would actually be him not wanting the hitman to be traced back to him. I genuinely thought for a moment that they were making Batman go full villain...instead of whatever the hell this iteration of him ended up as.
Judging from other comments , you weren't the only one
I'll squash this right here: he didn't, but was going to
@@michaeliv284 Going to?
I legit thought it was some edgy mind control. Like Green Lantern would actually flip the script and rescue Batman from some kind of mind control by an evil being, and everyone would be like "oooooooohhhhh".
@@Klongu_Da_Bongu or maybe it was a different, kinda funny/ironic take on the character. like in this version bruce is still a stoic guy who builds his batman role to save gotham, but this time he ended up delusional and with a twisted sense of justice, probably because of his own image as batman, it can be a cool iteration of the character, but not mainline batman at all.
All-star batman is just three kids in a Batman costume pretending to be Batman
*Sees what they did with wonder woman and black canary in this story*
"So anyway the underaged batgirl now joins the story"
NOOOO!!
And breath a sigh a relief she wasn't sexualized or abused sexually.
This whole comic feels like it takes place in the universe of The Boys
But like not the actually good tv-verse of The Boys, just the comic-verse of The Boys. It’d be right at home, writing wise.
This really feels like a story the writer of the Boys comics would write, in all the worst ways.
Everything from the man child temper tantrums, unhinged and abusive treatment of his allies and constant power tripping is so akin to homelander it’s hilarious
@@leithaziz2716Garth Ennis's hatred for superheroes makes more sense if you imagine All-Star Batman is the only superhero comic he's ever read.
funnily enough all star batman & robin supposedly takes place in the same universes as miller's other batman books year one, dark knight returns and it's sequels.
Bruce Wayne was clean-shaven. Batman showing up a half-hour later has semi-thick stubble. Proof this isn’t Batman
Tis a homeless man named crazy steve
The goddam batman can grow a goddam beard whenever he goddam pleases
I wouldnt put it past him to spray on a stubble
It's MAN
ok but had you ever seen batman and Onision in the same room?
If the actual Batman met this "Batman" he'd cry.
Real Batman would beat the shit out of Crazy Steve
The real question is, is Batman unhinged enough in his dark crusader persona that he would shoot his own parents in a time travel adventure to ensure he does indeed grow up to be Batman?
*Grow up to be the goddamn Batman
Depends on the iteration. Most of the well written Batmen? No. The Godamn Batman™️? Probably.
@@humanperson2480A well written Batman knows that Batman is just as unhinge as his criminal and his no kill rule is their to keep him from taking just a few steps closer to what they are
What a man you are, Bruce.
I see that happening
This Batman is so sadistic that he goes as far to paint himself, Robin, and an entire room yellow just to spite Green Lantern. It’s actually kinda hilarious in retrospect.
As someone who loves the color yellow, I see this as an absolute win.
Would've been funny if the emotional spectrum thing was introduced in this comic to this Batman.
Im so glad that ridiculous weakness was removed
@@doge9455 i thought it was funny but i guess it's weird when one of green lantern enemies are dressed all in yellow
I honestly think that the whole comic made in ironical intentions
Wouldn't the explanation of superman being upset that batman kidnapped a child be that batman kidnapped a child, you make a lot of good points but the " why are you mad that this man kidnapped a child to use as a sidekick " is a weird one since most likely superman sees what batman did as wrong
28:13 the biggest takeaway I got from this is that Batman is so insecure that he’s hurt by a 12-year old calling his car queer.
This comic is just, "what would happen if Lego Batman was more edgy and had less character development?"
It's like a pile of satire created unironically, you'd think it was written by the onion but nooo
Do not diss Lego Batman like that 😡😡😡
The character was literally like almost if not 70 years old at the time this came out. How much more character development do you need?
@@matchboxschrieverpetersonl7 the character gets developed differently every time the DCU gets reset so you have near infinite possibilities as long as it makes sense for the character.
@@RushWheeler dude. My family helped create this character. There is nothing truly new under sun. So sit down, son. DADDY'S WORKING!
This Batman has no right to belittle someone’s intelligence as he spent probable hours painting a room as an insult that ultimately served no purpose other than wasting his time.
To be fair, it was very funny for us.
I think painting the room yellow while having lemonade just to be safe,is a very Batman thing to do. Unfortunately that’s the ONLY Batman thing he did.
Shut up.
You can blame me for buying this multiple times... I even have the absolute edition. I usually claim I just love Jim Lee's artwork, but somewhere deep inside I actually liked the story, not because it was good by any stretch, but just because it was so batshit insane I couldn't look away.
"you wanna see nuts? I'll show you nuts, kid"
Frank Miller must've been on something
The fact that All-Star Batman was hated enough to get a wiki is just brilliant
What wiki?
@@Pleinair92 the villains wiki is a wiki of fictional villains. this batman has an entry there.
His hobbies are: “Humiliating members of the Justice League.
Abusing Robin and anybody who disagrees with him.” 😂
According to Frank Miller, this Batman is suppose to be the same Batman from Batman Year One and The Dark Knight Returns. In Year One Batman is very reserve and mellow, and even risks his life to save a cat from some incoming fire from police officers, and in The Dark Knight Returns, Batman saves Carrie Kelly (who was Robin at the time) from a fall, and comforts her by telling her that she is a good soldier, and never smacked in the head or called her names.
This is just a Sin City character using Batman's costume.
Tbf it also the one from the dark knight strikes again where he throws dick grayson into lava
yk the whole time I was thinking like" I don't think it's too bad to characterize him diffrently since this is obviously a different iteration of the character" but you can't even give it that. Honestly I kinda like the idea of an asshole batman that isn't that much better than the criminals (never read flashpoint but I'm pretty sure thomas wayne is an example good execution of this) , but obviously as like a spin off not main line.
@@reggieclarke3526we don't talk about The Dark Knight's sequel. That was written by Frank in a manic state after 9/11, not a man who was sound of mind.
@@electricfeverx976 Also Holy Terror. Holy shit that was a bad comic because it was a Batman story with the serial numbers filed off because DC refused to print it.
@@muigokublack6487Ah, yes, Holy Terror, the only story that DC rightfully pumped the breaks on because they realised "Hey... Maybe deliberately writing a comic about Batman beating up Muslims following 9/11 stylised after World War 2 propaganda comics which are now known for their extremely racist and de-humanizing depictions of our then enemies, particularly the Japanese... would be recieved badly in the modern day...?"
And then Miller was just like "NAH, IMMA MAKE IT ANYWAY!"
32:24. To be fair, Superman being mad at Batman for kidnapping a child is probably the most reasonable thing in this comic
17:50 I can't believe the panel of Thanos getting arrested by the police isn't in there.
There is also a comic panel of Thanos testifying against his brother Star Fox is court for the r*pes of Marvel women lol.
@@Elfenlied8675309 Wait
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I appreciate Robin not knowing what a ward is, but also using the word "queer", as opposed to the other colorful words a 12 y/o would be using instead.
He originally used “gay” instead, but either they changed it on reissues or something.
@@AarturoSc That makes some more sense. I don't love the censorship, and I'd rayher they just reprint with a disclaimer Looney Toons style (especially since the censorship doesn't work very well; there's still a homophobic reading ), but I get why they'd change it. That said though a half measure on a book like this seems like kind of a silly bandaid patch on a mangled corpse.
@@AarturoScWeird that they changed it to an equally offensive thing for a kid to say... in fact, as a gay/queer person, I'd probably be MORE pissed if a little boy called me a queer. 😂
Very bold decision there to make this version of Robin canonically homophobic
@@halfmettlealchemist8076 Ehhhh, I'd chalk it up to being 12 tbh. I'm a queer gender nonconforming nb but in 5th grade we all used the f slur like water. It wasn't right mind, but at that age curse words and slurs are edgy y'know? As much as DC likes to make their heroes moral paragons who don't have sex, do drugs, have a hot temper and go off sometimes, and definitely wouldn't ever say something bigoted, in a more realistic reading a young Dick or Damien using a homophobic utterance to be defiant until Bruce set them straight about it would make sense to me.
ETA: Not to mention this comic chopped up the morals and attitudes we respect and like for most of the characters that appear in it, so in context a homophobic Dick isn't that out of the ordinary here.
Can't stop thinking about 1:02:19 "A costume is queer enough" like my dude you spent your whole entire life doing twirls and jumping around in a skin-tight, glittery, colourful leotard.
You don't get to tell me what is and isn't fruity lmfao
in 2005 queer ment weird. people like to forget just how quickly all these words were coopted to mean sexual devient.
@@halogeek6 queer has been used to describe gays for far longer than 05, basic queer history knowledge woukd tell u that but u wanna get in a snarky comment instead
@@vespernight4236 lmao exactly im pretty sure the last time queer meant weird or off putting in mainstream culture was like the early 1900s and even then that might be wrong
Yeah wearing a costume probably wouldn't be the weirdest nor most pertinent thing that a circus performer would notice about Batman.
After he kidnapped him from his traveling home and family business and the site of his parents murder.
Also didn't Dick have other circus family? I just realized that as an adult.
@@halogeek6 Ignoring how blatantly wrong you are, _”Sexual deviant”_ ..? You okay, man?
I am vengeance! I am the night! I am Batman!
Or...
Shut up. I am the goddamn Batman.
First for authenticity.
Second for laughs.
I love those glasses you wear because we can kinda see your hand gestures in their reflection, which allows you to gesticulate without ditching the close-up camera
The reason Superman never flies in this comic is because Frank Miller decided to make it so that this version of Superman hasn't discovered his flight yet for no other reason than to try to make Batman seem smart by having him reveal in a throwaway line to Black Canary in issue 7 that he somehow knows Superman can fly even though Superman himself doesn't. It's as dumb as it sounds.
It's impressive how he wrote one of the best batman stories and just went onto a downward spiral like this. Wtf was he on
@@NinjapowerMS Health issues, divorce, Ground Zero 9/11 trauma, & pills. A lot of pills trying to deal with it.
@@pubcle Nowadays, he acknowledges an improvement in his lively situation, even openly admitting his dislike for this specific period in his life.
Keep in mind, Frank Miller had long since destroyed his brain with alcohol. He _was_ one of the best. In the 80s.
As the Nostalgia Critic put it, there’s Crazy Cool Frank Miller and Just Crazy Frank Miller…
Sadly we’re stuck with the latter
Robocop 3 bruh lol
9/11 really destroyed any remains of his sanity
He did this on purpose. He revived batman basically and then other writers kept copying his work, making batman comics more dark, edgy, and overall ridiculous.
In interviews he commented on writers not having their own voice and direction, seemingly copying his work with the character and comics in general. He was frustrated.
He wrote all star to illustrate the stereotypes, tropes, ridiculousness of it all.
I'm not denying he definitely has problems, but he was purposeful with this.
There's a TH-camr named Smokey's videos who covered this in detail, I highly recommend watching it to understand more, I've butchered the summary of the video no doubt lol.
Now he's the guy who wrote a comic that said that every single Muslim on earth is a member of Al Qaeda.
When Batman got addicted to Venom he acted less unhinged than this
So ... this Batman:
Is ultra violent
Is a manchild
Has huge ego probleme
Torture a kid until he becomes a superhero
Talks to himself about how cool he is ...
Congrats Miler, you turned the Batman into fucking Homelander...
Homelander without the powers but with the gadgets and hand to hand skill.
This has gotta be like, the only time I've watched some sort of Batman media where the public has very good reason to despise batman.
Yeah, Miller likes to mock the civil rights violations that Batman would logically cause, but that's a fucked up thing to be mocking? We know GCPD is probably like the NYPD on racism steroids, it's a civil rights violation factory. And that's bad sure and Miller supposedly agrees, but then Batman is somehow even worse than that and we're supposed to clap for him? I don't think GCPD is full of bleeding heart libs that give each criminal a shiatsu massage once processed, but I also don't think they're stabbing people with snake venom just to fuck with them.
There are a thousand other reasons to hate Batman, but Frank Miller provides about 900 of them.
@@fluidthought42 I loved your comment. I've seen the "batman should kill his villians" crowd and the "batman is a facist" crowd but I've never been able to reconcile the two schools of thought in my head. This is what most edgy commenters who think batman should kill muggers would behave like if they were Batman.
@@fluidthought42 Oh and snake *poison* not venom. Venom comes from an animal, not a snake. Snake poison is very different and scientifically accurate obviously 😂
@@crunkers_ I'm pretty sure most people who want batman to kill, or complain about his no kill policy, aren't asking him to kill low level criminals.
I love how the first time Batman responds to Dick without an insult or telling him to shut up dicks responce is "that's gay".
Honestly, fairly accurate depiction of a teenager in the early 2000’s
@@kyleglendinning9414 Yeah, the most loudmouthed, annoying ones. Other teens existed. Can we not represent those?
at 52:48 I'm pretty sure it means "you can't tell know how screwed you are". it also could be a metaphor comparing being screwed and not knowing your going to lose
It’s so funny to me how they put in so much crap but felt the need to censor „Dickwad“
BTW the second unrelated All-Star Batman is actually pretty cool. It turned KGBeast into an actual badass.
He always was....
Let's not get into Two-face's design, always knew he looked good in red but...
@@immameatpopsicle9825 the designs of Two-Face and Penguin are the exceptions. The rest is pretty good.
Where do you find the unreleased party?
That book was mid, and KGBeast has always been cool
Batman lacing a batarang with snake venom is something I've never thought of him doing even if he broke his no killing rule. That says a lot about this story.
Poisoned bullets/projectiles has been deemed inhumane since The Strasbourg Agreement of 27 August 1675
So yea
Kidnapping, torture, excessive force, excessive collateral damage, and war crimes.
No wonder people don't think this Batman is a hero.
Even in Batman: Year One, an actually good Batman story, Miller has Batman knock people out with little batarang darts tipped with poison from, and I shit you not, an Anaconda. That is not a misquote. From a snake that doesn't have fangs, or venom glands, and kills by constriction. Even before he lost his mind, Frank Miller's understanding of the natural world was a bit... lacking.
My mind had edited my memory of this so that somebody had sabotaged his batarangs. Gonna stick with this head canon
@@noisepuppet That actually sounds like an amazing concept for a Batman story.
The "writers?" Is Frank Miller a legion of demons? A Jekyll-hide combo of two personalities? A collective hive-mind of ants in a human skin-suit. Considering Miller, all sound plausible.
He’s all of them
56:18 "is he stupid?" -arkham subreddit moment
I laughed until I cried over "I love being the goddamn Batman". That fucking panel ended my entire existence.
It's the Batman who Laughs done right. By accident.
and then he smokes a big cuban cigar.
The whole point of Batman was he sacrificed himself so no one has to go through what he did as a child/adult so it's crazy that Batman just takes a kid and makes him go through what he has.
I'm pretty sure he put him through worse lmao
@@djspectrebolt8450 yeah, i'm pretty sure alfred took care of batman for the majority of time after the parent murder. this batman is being a giant hypocrite by denying robin the same comfort alfred gave him.
@@cybersaiyan9596 He's not a hypocrite, it's his humanity showing. He can defeat the Joker, but he can't offer what he lost to a boy who was identical to him. All his crimefighting and adherence to "being fear" left him problems connecting with people, even when we wants to.
11:58 if this was an apocalyptic else world story I can see this line going hard.
But this is just the first time ever that he’s meeting Dick, right after his parents are murdered and all of a sudden he’s being “drafted” into being Robin.
This reminds me of that one Calvin & Hobbes sunday strip parodying 90s dark age comics...
You mean the one that ends on the line, "I could feel my spine shatter. It hurt. A lot."
And then Calvin, shell-shocked, turns on the TV. His mom turns it off immediately, telling him that television is too violent and to read a book instead.
Jeez, I hadn't made that connection before. Thanks homie.
The part where he breaks open the comic case is funni af because you can just hear the thousands of "collectors" crying with every tap on that plastic case
I’ve never even read a comic book but I felt physical pain when he said he nicked the bottom
Well anyone that owns a graded copy of it just had the value of it go up since it's now one issue more rare.
Did he also recensor it with a marker?
@Burbund my guess is he photoshopped the transparent censor bars on
@@BurbundI'm pretty sure that was what the printing error was, the censor bars were the wrong shape of black and didn't cover the words entirely
Frank Miller was going through a ROUGH period on his life from the early 2000s until very recently. He seems to have gotten better, but he had to deal with addiction, personal trauma after the 9/11 attacks (he was living close to ground zero), depression, a divorce, health issues (suspected to be cancer and/or a stroke, but he never announced it), everybody telling him how much of a legend he was and refusing to rein him in, etc. Honestly, look at recent pics of him, dude seems to have aged 40 years in the span of 5. He has disowned a lot of the crap he came up with in the 2000s (like Holy Terror) saying he wasn't on the right place at the time, I guess All-Star Batman is an example of that.
Ooohhh that makes more sense, thanks for sharing this! I was wondering how this even came to be
@@miundamera Yeah, by any means I'm not justifying anything he wrote in that time period, but it definitely explains it. I don't think his more recent work is that good either but at least it's not full of hateful shock value, he seems to be able to capture nuances better again (although I haven't read the Ronin sequel, I've heard good things about that one).
So Batman was nuts because his author was nuts.
Makes sense.
It's worse when authors think they're sane and then write a sprawling universe. The Earthbones of the Wormverse have determinism cancer. The Earthbones of, well, Elder Scrolls, at least know they're fantasy.
@@JoshSweetvale "So Batman was nuts because his author was nuts."
This also goes a long way to explaining everything Steve Ditko made on his own
Damn now I feel bad
They should have just called this series “The Goddamn Batman”
20:12 no lie when you said that Batman unzipped his pants after saying “I’ll show you nuts” I didn’t even think you were joking like I fully believed that was part of the comic. It wouldn’t have even been the craziest thing in the run if it did happen
Batman suddenly forgetting he drugged robin despite him not getting sedated and asks him if hes r- or dense when he doesnt understand his rambling killed me
as a woman, i can confirm i only think about men! great writing awesome comic!
54:46 (Inset Vivziepop Joke Here)
Ah yes, the sequel to "the comic that ruined spiderman for no reason"
Which one, there's a lot of those
@@kannan07 Huggbees covered one more day
@@WSendam ah, there's probably a dozen more for him to cover then
do you have any idea how little that narrows it down
@@kannan07 perhaps, but One More Day is the most infamous comic as it kick-started the shitty state of the series that's still going to this day, without One More Day you don't get to where we're at now.
Frank Miller REALLY hates that Batman and Superman are friends.
He really hates Superman in general. I hate him so much, he’s gotta be the most overrated writer/artist I have ever seen in comic books.
@@Spider-Man_234isn't that most dc fans nowadays?
@@Man_Aslume Do you mean writers?
@@concept5631 I think I typed my reply to the wrong guy
@@Man_Aslume Felt that
Jim Lee, Scott Williams and Alex Sinclair are such an incredible and well talented artists that it's unfortunate their beautiful artworks were ruined by terrible Frank Millar's writing.
20:07 best sentence ever spoken