Vanilla physics in Wolfenstein: Enemy Territory do not indeed have surfing as there's no air control. There are 2 mods (ETRun and TJMod) which add something called AP, or Advanced Physics, which sort of mimics the physics from Quake 3 CPM, which in turn allows for aircontrol and surfing. But they are both pretty much dead with no playerbase, the movement community plays ETJump, which is just vanilla physics. Cool video :)
You do have the concept of "best strafe" which allows you to slightly strafe in the air if you press both W and the direction you want. In the vanilla physics (or is it on mods like jaymod and noquarter?) the only requirement is that your bunny hop from a lower point from the one you jumped, else you'll be brought to a halt. Used to play this game a lot and TJ servers were my first movement game. It warmed my heart seeing that start screen, and it being mentioned here after all these years.
@@gabrielvasconcelos4055 yes of course, but that's just called strafing. Air control means being able to actually properly turn in the air (like in Q3 CPMA) and not just slightly change your trajectory.
Hey I made the surf_beginner recreation in Tower Unite. I tried to work around the limitations of the game such as no bhop. The reason why surf_utopia looks faithful and mine not so much is that the guy who uploaded surf_utopia directly converted the map into Steam workshop models, whereas I eyeballed my map with in-game props. Surf_ice was also made for the monthly official condo contest and got 5th place. Should've placed higher IMO.
Daaamn this brought me back, I used to play a ton of movement maps in Urban Terror and ET, and yeah, they're not the best for surf, but they are fun as their own thing.
1:32 Surf_Progress is even more detailed and effective for TEACHING you how to surf. Definitely wish it existed back when I was still dying on mesa for eternity.
OMG Urban Terror was my child hood game i spent so many hours in IcyJump maps ( Surf ). Thats so nostalgic. So sad the community was so awesome and now .... I even know all the secrets from Rambetter's maps
I used to play urban terror! few years back me and co workers all set it up at work since the boss used to play when he was younger and wanted to play again, we did work lan parties lol, was alot of fun
cod 4 is up there with some of the most skill-expressive movement games out there, especially for its time. The game engine used back then for cod was based almost entirely on the old quake engine, so airstrafes played a huge part in movement especially on PC. Console for obvious reasons never really took off but you could still hit the lower level strafes and bounces. I grew up playing promod which was very movement heavy and it was the deathrun and speedrun maps that actually got me into TF2 and then by default, into CS and surfing. So it's nice to see cod4 getting a mention in a good light here.
I've never tried cod4 surf but I know they had to mess with the engine to make it possible cus it doesn't work on vanilla. I'm not sure how much they changed but if the movement is the same as normal cod4 then u can't really turn in the air with A/D, you have to strafe with WA/WD and turn at a sharper angle just like how half-sideways works in surf. In that codjumper clip you can see how far and quickly they turn to switch strafes and how little airstrafing actually moves you.
Just found this video while looking for a surf clone game, cool stuff! Can't wait for Momentum mod. Do you know any other games out there / coming out there that are primarily surf copies? Cheers!
while I understand that this channel is focused around surf specifically, I really think that you should try to give some of the defrag-like games a proper shot, rather than just talking about whether they have a lot of slidable ramps, because each game had a lot of stuff that could be interesting, especially Urban Terror.
Quick question. Anyone using external turn binds in GO? Just curious how people feel about them. Do any servers disallow them? I don't know of any personally that don't, but I don't go to a lot of servers.
im very new so I could be wrong but I found that external keybinds are 100% legal & used by top surfers. Just too much for me too get used to just for T2 😅
I've never set up a surf timer offline unfortunately, it may be possible but its not easy. Highly recommend surfing on servers for the best experience.
map at 8:15 ? or is that in a stand alone also sorry for all the comments they just look super cool haha i play on momentum mod so i have to find maps myself
Hey, just a video idea for you. Could you make a tutorial how to make your own private server to play solo with timer and plugins (for css/csgo). I've tried to understand how to do that but I'm not good at stuff like that. It would be great if people could play a single map that they like without it changing.
No clue how to set up a private server but it could be done I would always recommend surfing on a server - just nominate the maps you want and tell people to vote for it, almost always gets you the map you want. Or get momentum 0.6.2 from github
I've sent you an email about my gamemode but you didn't read I guess ^^ i've made a combat surf flag hunt gamemode inspired by the rabbit mode from tribes with a flag to carry for points multiplier, random respawn, custom ranking, surf grenades and a lot of cool stuff.
what's the steepest wall/ramp you can surf? can you normally surf an 89 degree wall? I'd love to see more surf spots incorporated into normal gameplay. They removed the surfing from the overpass warmup map but not the actual competitive map. Smucktarded?
@@Repster it honestly makes me sad having to mute people in like every server because of the vile things they say. It makes the whole community look bad.
i loved tribes ascend back in the day. it was nice to see it brought up here.
Vanilla physics in Wolfenstein: Enemy Territory do not indeed have surfing as there's no air control. There are 2 mods (ETRun and TJMod) which add something called AP, or Advanced Physics, which sort of mimics the physics from Quake 3 CPM, which in turn allows for aircontrol and surfing. But they are both pretty much dead with no playerbase, the movement community plays ETJump, which is just vanilla physics. Cool video :)
You do have the concept of "best strafe" which allows you to slightly strafe in the air if you press both W and the direction you want. In the vanilla physics (or is it on mods like jaymod and noquarter?) the only requirement is that your bunny hop from a lower point from the one you jumped, else you'll be brought to a halt. Used to play this game a lot and TJ servers were my first movement game. It warmed my heart seeing that start screen, and it being mentioned here after all these years.
@@gabrielvasconcelos4055 yes of course, but that's just called strafing. Air control means being able to actually properly turn in the air (like in Q3 CPMA) and not just slightly change your trajectory.
@ImAciz Yeah, I'm just adding to the information
Hey I made the surf_beginner recreation in Tower Unite. I tried to work around the limitations of the game such as no bhop. The reason why surf_utopia looks faithful and mine not so much is that the guy who uploaded surf_utopia directly converted the map into Steam workshop models, whereas I eyeballed my map with in-game props. Surf_ice was also made for the monthly official condo contest and got 5th place. Should've placed higher IMO.
i liked ice! it was hard lol
glad you liked my map surf_studio :D
Daaamn this brought me back, I used to play a ton of movement maps in Urban Terror and ET, and yeah, they're not the best for surf, but they are fun as their own thing.
1:32 Surf_Progress is even more detailed and effective for TEACHING you how to surf.
Definitely wish it existed back when I was still dying on mesa for eternity.
man that nostalgia hit with wolfenstein ET jump maps, spent so much time on those in my childhood lol
OMG Urban Terror was my child hood game i spent so many hours in IcyJump maps ( Surf ). Thats so nostalgic. So sad the community was so awesome and now .... I even know all the secrets from Rambetter's maps
Tribes appearing in an obscure game list is so sad. Loved that game.
Us boys from the tower community totally loved to see this, thanks for showing off my map surf_ice
I used to play urban terror! few years back me and co workers all set it up at work since the boss used to play when he was younger and wanted to play again, we did work lan parties lol, was alot of fun
Just to make sure, Kreedz Climbing is the game made with 1.6 physics but with source graphics, so surf over there is like 1.6 surf
I actually didn't know that, it felt pretty good!
@@Repster yeah it feels a bit easier since the fps is higher
cod 4 is up there with some of the most skill-expressive movement games out there, especially for its time. The game engine used back then for cod was based almost entirely on the old quake engine, so airstrafes played a huge part in movement especially on PC. Console for obvious reasons never really took off but you could still hit the lower level strafes and bounces. I grew up playing promod which was very movement heavy and it was the deathrun and speedrun maps that actually got me into TF2 and then by default, into CS and surfing. So it's nice to see cod4 getting a mention in a good light here.
im in the intro woo
damn rare to see urbanterror in any videos these days. i really hope urt 5 comes out someday. urt had the coolest movement of any game i have played.
DUDE
Tribes (vengeance):D
Thats what i came from
Ty mention it =)
It was a very nice movement game back than
and the reason i started surf on csgo
I've never tried cod4 surf but I know they had to mess with the engine to make it possible cus it doesn't work on vanilla. I'm not sure how much they changed but if the movement is the same as normal cod4 then u can't really turn in the air with A/D, you have to strafe with WA/WD and turn at a sharper angle just like how half-sideways works in surf. In that codjumper clip you can see how far and quickly they turn to switch strafes and how little airstrafing actually moves you.
nah you didn't have to diss hot lava like that, that shit is a great game
Just found this video while looking for a surf clone game, cool stuff! Can't wait for Momentum mod. Do you know any other games out there / coming out there that are primarily surf copies? Cheers!
while I understand that this channel is focused around surf specifically, I really think that you should try to give some of the defrag-like games a proper shot, rather than just talking about whether they have a lot of slidable ramps, because each game had a lot of stuff that could be interesting, especially Urban Terror.
insane vid keep it up!
I forgot about tower unite - fun game to play drunk with friends lol ,never tried surf on it though
Urban terror physics is different from Quake 3. In short, you do strafejumps with mouse only, try not to use strafe buttons.
Oh man I used to love urban terror and those maps man. Played them a lot when I was you ger
Quick question. Anyone using external turn binds in GO? Just curious how people feel about them. Do any servers disallow them? I don't know of any personally that don't, but I don't go to a lot of servers.
im very new so I could be wrong but I found that external keybinds are 100% legal & used by top surfers. Just too much for me too get used to just for T2 😅
am i crazy or does the thumbnail have the weapons swapped for each game? counter strike has the sniper rifle while call of duty has the knife.
U FORGOT BUNNYHOP LEAGUE! (its old af but looks very nice)
keep it up
there are one last game:aqtion quake 2
can you do quake live? there is just race but there is one surf map
In css can u help me setup a timer and show speed? I’m using gamebanana maps so u don’t have to find one for a server. Btw great video!
I've never set up a surf timer offline unfortunately, it may be possible but its not easy. Highly recommend surfing on servers for the best experience.
@@Repster can you recommend any css servers?
@@ajaiyepikes yes KSF is the best by far
ksfclan.com/connect/
On 8:15 what map is this ? looks gorgeous!
surf_angst by proxychains!
Tribes ascend is still a fun game. Not surf, but it's not trying to be :)
Tribes my beloved
map at 8:15 ? or is that in a stand alone also sorry for all the comments they just look super cool haha i play on momentum mod so i have to find maps myself
surf_angst
aaaaw yiss pt2
Kreedz climbing is the best
great video!
Hey, just a video idea for you. Could you make a tutorial how to make your own private server to play solo with timer and plugins (for css/csgo). I've tried to understand how to do that but I'm not good at stuff like that. It would be great if people could play a single map that they like without it changing.
No clue how to set up a private server but it could be done
I would always recommend surfing on a server - just nominate the maps you want and tell people to vote for it, almost always gets you the map you want.
Or get momentum 0.6.2 from github
I've sent you an email about my gamemode but you didn't read I guess ^^ i've made a combat surf flag hunt gamemode inspired by the rabbit mode from tribes with a flag to carry for points multiplier, random respawn, custom ranking, surf grenades and a lot of cool stuff.
where is all the kzers at eh?
good vid !
Thanks!
Is css or csgo better overall for surf? Love your channel btw
css provides a more enjoyable experience, as its 66 ticks per second instead of csgo having 64 ticks per second and also a bigger hitbox
agreed css is technically better but csgo is fine! and free
BRO IVE BEEN PLAYING TOWER UNITE FOR 7 YEARS SINCE WHEN IS THERE SURF AND WHERE WTF
Sounds fun
wheres s&box
what's the steepest wall/ramp you can surf? can you normally surf an 89 degree wall? I'd love to see more surf spots incorporated into normal gameplay. They removed the surfing from the overpass warmup map but not the actual competitive map. Smucktarded?
MAKES THIS A FUCKING SERIAS PLS PLS PLS
dang why not compare to CS:S surf
the map he showed surf ice was stolen from gmod
the J
You should make a video about why the CSGO KSF servers are full of a bunch of hateful racists and homophobes.
not false, a vid about this might be coming soon :/
@@Repster it honestly makes me sad having to mute people in like every server because of the vile things they say. It makes the whole community look bad.