Track Day Stinger Gt owner here fair review on your part. I have the limited Gt as you can see in my profile picture. I believe in the potential of this car. Lap 3 only upgraded the baby turbos in the stinger and it’s already sitting at 640hp to the wheels 700 crank. Like you said it’s not built for the track but with upgrades I really believe this car could be a monster. I also live in NJ so I have the AWD. I honestly love the car. I would tell people to just get the base Gt as well and if you need AWD get it. Great review you got a new subscriber
Gt owner here I thought his review was fair. I will say this I bought this car for its potential it has a lot and for the price it’s great. I bought the base Gt limited edition for $45,000 which I know initially isn’t cheap but Kia instantly took $7,500 off that sticker plus my trade in plus my down payment. So I really got the car for $33,500 brand new and was given another $5000 cause the yellows had paint issues. So really I bought the car for $28,500 brand new your simply not beating the value of this car even for $33k. Like I said I bought this car for its potential and it has a lot with a simple piggyback tune nothing else gets you to 440Hp. Most of my fellow stinger owners out there with basic bolt ons and a tune we are at 500Hp+ at the crank and 550 TQ. Lap 3 has upgraded our baby turbos in the stinger 700Hp and that’s only upgraded turbos that’s it. Transmission is believed to be good up to 800 Hp. Keep in mind this is a new platform . Guys are doing 11.5 1/4 mile times with piggyback tunes and basic bolt ons. Sorry for the long comment but I love this car and know the potential it has.
Daniel Tercero it’s a great car man you won’t be disappointed. I’m a member on the stinger forum too you can check it out if you have other questions. We have a great community and like I said the potential is there. Also I don’t know if your looking to go brand new or used but there are some really great deals on slightly used if you are looking to save some coin. Good luck to you hopefully you join us.
Subscriber and 2019 Stinger GT owner here (purchased Aug 2019). I can appreciate your no-nonsense and un-hyped review, especially coming from the "breadth" of cars you drive. 4 months ago, I ended up choosing the RWD base GT after testing various trims. Base GT, RWD made the most sense (cost, weight, dynamics). It's the best performance value and a conclusion I think any true auto-enthusiast would arrive. Also, it didn't hurt Kia was rolling out summer clearance incentives (which are still going on for 2019s). My Hichroma Red base GT was $33k out the door, new. Helluva deal. Since Aug, I've installed BMS intakes, BMS rear diff brace, and a BMS JB4 w/ wireless BT kit. An MBRP CBE is OTW. Running Map2 on 93 Octane, makes around 420whp and 500 wtrq. With launch control, the 255 Mich PS4's do hook up as long as temps are ideal. You should test one. Matter of fact, if you're near Richmond VA, you can test mine.
Thanks Richard! I agree, RWD + base GT is the way to go. That's the definition of value and performance. I'm definitely interested in seeing what mods can do to the Stinger GT platform. If I'm ever near Richmond, I'll hit you up!
@@SpeedLabsMotorEnvy just posted some #'s near the top of the comments from a few Draggy runs I've been doing. I'm looking to install a WMI kit with my JB4 tuner so I can run safer IAT's and maybe w/ E30 fuel. Currently though, she's easily a mid to low 12 car and possibly a high 11 with a prepped surface and proper tires.
This was a very comprehensive review of everything Stinger GTS relayed. you basically covered every aspect of the car in less than 13 minutes. why is it that other channels spend 20+ minutes and only cover a few points on the car. Kudos to you man.
Sometimes I click into one of your vids that have been around for a little while and I see the level of engagement is just not proportional to the views. I think TH-cam is seriously underrating your channel and they need to step up their game.
I like the addition of the new guy and the back and forth banter. Reminds me of the johny-jason combo. Great shots of the car, the color grading in this is pretty on point. Keep it up 💪
Hey Dude! Beautiful video. I have not seen that color yet out in my area. I really dislike cars that shift at red line in "full manual". Your channel is getting more and more rich with great content. We the viewers appreciate what you are putting out. Kumar is a dope addition to the channel. YOU HAVE FANS BRO! What you do not yet have is the fan base that you DESERVE.
Thanks man! It's a special color limited only to the GTS trim. You're right, I always wish I had a bigger fan base and but I'll keep grinding regardless. Each of these videos are a lot of work, especially when you're editing them right up until the release day. Kumar's gonna get more screen time soon!
@@SpeedLabsMotorEnvy I am kind of confused by the delay in your channel getting swept in the undertow that is the TH-cam alghorythm. It has to happen soon. Its pissin me off bruh. More eyes need to see your content and then those eyes will sub.
I feel the same way. I'm starting to second guess myself sometimes. Is the stuff I make just not what TH-cam wants to see or people want to see? Or did I piss off someone at TH-cam. It also doesn't help that they are constantly changing up the algorithm either.
Late to the game watching this but you did an amazing job. Perfect review, all the aspects we're covered and I thoroughly enjoyed both of you in the car at the same time. That discussion gives another dimension to the review.
I think it is a long shot for this Korean Kia Stinger to catch up with other well known European sports models. The video presented a fair and detailed review. The beautiful scenery and the superb cinematography added extra points to the car.
I appreciate your perspective, Jerry. But have you driven the Stinger GTS as well as European sports models so that you can make a fair comparison? I used to own a Lotus Elise, Porsche Panamera, BMW M3, and an Audi S3 (among other cars). Just traded in the Porsche for the Stinger GTS and I'm loving it! Honesty, the Lotus was the most fun to drive, but the Stinger is fairly competitive with all of the others. It certainly beats them all with initial costs, maintenance, and repair costs... not to mention insurance! I do see your point, but the price tag is roughly $20,000 lower than comparable European sports cars. So, while the cars may not be an "apples to apples" comparison, the Stinger (particularly the GTS in my case) sure gives those cars a scrappy fight! Well done, Kia! Overall, I think the review was right on the money, but I might up the percentage from 80% to 85-90% actually. And plus, I feel so much less douchey getting out of a Kia than getting out of a Porsche, and it's more fun to get there. Just sayin'!
Confirmed: Sport drive mode, press and hold "traction off" button for 3-4 seconds to disable both traction and stability. Bump shifter into manual mode (Base GT and GT1's only have this with the mechanical shifter). Shifts will hold. Happy drifting.
You guys are pulling the Harold and Kumar of Automotive world, haha. The Stinger AWD got good numbers, but really curious how the RWD version is. I would personally put this close to the Lexus FSport or the Q50 Red Sport. The upcoming CT4-V (4-cyl) or CT5-V (V6) may be a possible competitor, but still waiting more info on those.
I don't think the Harold & Kumar car combo has been done yet 😄 I think in stock form, the Stinger GT/S/1/2 is a good match for the Q50RS in straight line and around corners. I have a feeling the Stinger would be quicker around a track for whatever reason based on the lap time, but yeah, if it were me, RWD is the way to go. Only reason I grabbed the AWD version is because of (1) Drift Mode test and (2) all the other cars in the same class that I've reviewed are the AWD variant. I do want to try an F Sport at some point though.
In case anyone was wondering what a mildly modified Stinger GT's numbers would look like... I have a 2019 Stinger GT RWD (base GT trim below the GTS). BMS Intakes, MBRP exhaust, BMS diff brace, JB4 tuner. #'s recorded w/ Draggy. Best run on Map 3, limiting boost in 1st for launch control, 0-60mph in 4.40 sec (4.13 sec w/ 60ft rollout), 1/4 mile in 12.38 @ 115.75 mph, 0-100 mph in 9.54 sec, 0-130 mph in 15.95 sec, and a 60-130 mph in 11.55 sec. All runs performed on Indy 500s, 255/35 front, 285/30 rear on 20" SF07s. Thatdudeinblue is releasing a small review on my car soon for those curious about the setup (although he doesn't do #'s like this channel).
I just closed on Kia Stinger GT2 for $37,000 before taxes and tags. An equivalent Audi S5 sportback is $67,000 and even if you are lucky to get a 10% discount on the Audi, the price difference is significantly more than $10,000. People love to compare MSRPs but only suckers pay sticker.
Love my Kia Stinger GT2. One thing people miss is how nice a winter car it is. It eats through the snow here in Sweden, and above all, the turbo is tested at -25 C, at that temp, you are not even supposed to start the competitors cars.. That is huge. Too bad they didn't want to lift the car out of the brand. It should be Stinger, sold at Stinger stores, because the brand does drive off customers. People will go for a Mustang over this, though their loss really.. :P
@@liljagarelilja3088 You are fortunate to have the AWD model available in your country. In the UK only the RWD is available. How do you find the fuel economy? Does using the auto stop/start feature help with fuel economy?
@@princeD1100 Fuel economy is what it is with a engine like this, usually get 10km/ .9-1 l. Live outside of towns so the auto start/stop is rarely used. :)
The crazy thing about the stinger is the base trims are really starting to drop in price. I have seen a few around for under 27K and even on mark up used sites like carmax they are dropping to under 30k even if you think you can get more performance out of something other then the Stinger when you look at something like a 2015 Mustang GT or Charger RT or a Audio S4 at well 25K or more then remember that the Kia Stinger at its oldest is only a year old and becoming a really strong used option.
You can just pull out the awd fuse under the hood and then it’s rwd it works and no problems to come its safe! And only traction off is drift mode with stability off as well it pulls you back for some reason so just do traction control, I own a 2018 gt2 limited and it’s 100% worth the money most bang for your buck this thing is a beast
The Genesis G70 is less weight and more refinement for similar money. I hope you plan to test it. I'm also curious to see your thoughts on the new Supra.
I do have plans to test both the G70 and G80 soon. I did a tuned Supra back a few months ago, but I want to get my hands on a stock one and do a head to head. What do you think would be a good car to compare it to (that hasn't been over done)?
Track Day I'm looking forward to the Genesis videos! Supra is kind of in its own category now that I think about it, but its competitive set might include Porsche Cayman, BMW M2/Z4, Corvette C8, Alfa 4C.
Launch control in the stinger doesn’t build boost. If you do parking break launch it actually builds boost n hauls ass. I consistently get 12.55 in the 1/4 and 4.2 0-60 doing parking brake launch. And I’m 100% stock. I have videos on my page of dragy runs. Great video btw!
I wait for Thursday’s because this! 46k damn that’s a good price! But it’s too heavy for a track car and also weight distribution will effects cornering.
I’m currently in the market for a sport sedan for the family. It’s come down to the M340i, C43 AMG sedan, Audi S4, and the Stinger GT. If you were getting a Sub $59k sedan what would you get?
To be honest, if you could spend all the way up to 59K, get an M340i in RWD (if that's feasible for you). C43 AMG comes in second for me, only because they don't give you the RWD option.
Track Day Thanks for the quick response! Love your videos BTW. The M340i is definitely impressive and it shows in both videos you’ve made. I’ll most likely lease and of all these cars the BMW has been leasing best.
I've driven all of those the bmw is definitely a good deal with that kind of power band.the c43 is the most attractive of the set inside. I wouldn't bother with the s4 ,not enough there to make it stand out. The stinger is also worth a look, I can recommend it as an owner ,the lease deals are insane for the stinger right now but take them all for a spin and go by feel.
Don't take this personal. But this one felt a lil odd to me, with u 2 talking to eachother you both kinda stay using ur trademarkable voice-over tone but try to do normal conversations which makes it feel weird to me.
I'm really surprised with this KIA and the 1/2 mile time, but likewise i would totally pay 10k more for a mercedes or bmw. lol great ending "post credit" scene!!
I think this was a pretty fair review and he kept away from bias and stuck to facts for the most part. Like he said this is not a track car it's a grand tourer it's made for the streets. Hopefully they will release the GTR super performance model next year .Thanks for using my stinger for the video!
They are more than likely not going to release any GTR model for this car. Sales aren’t doing any good, was reading that next gen may not even come. So enjoy this model.
This car needs a serious tune & boost with some after market suspension & breaks upgrades to be a decent track car. But at that price point , It makes it a realistic option .
100%. I'd like to try both. I only want to do the AWD version because the rest of the cars I've tested in this class are AWD so that will make it fair.
Thanks for the legend on the pinned comment. Hour friend looks pretty fucking cold btw 😂 I see acting in this vid 😂 Yeah my buddy Evan has the same orange he said the same thing about the 1/800 It does sound very nice yes, and I’ve heard it in person. But I wanna see this speaker shit Drift mode? Never heard of that in this car I still have no idea how this car weighs so much. It’s insane. You’ll probably save 200-300lbs with RWD And I saw yesterday a stinger GT with a widebody kit. Looked nice I’ll come back in a bit Ok I’m back for a bit now. Yes snow driving with all wheel drive is awesome Yeah, I do not like the enterior. I have no idea why they did all this loony tuney shit with the dash The wheel is very nice for sure And the paddles are better than the Audi paddles. I think the new 2020 TTRS is getting an upgrade in the paddle department 👀 Your friend loves bad ideas I see 😂 YES DRIFT MODE Wow it gets plenty of angle. That’s a big shock for all wheel drive I’ll come back again in a bit Alright here I am again! Looks so fun in drift mode Yeah my buddy Evan has a RWD stinger Oof redline upshifts are lame Wow that’s not bad actually for a sedan. Just watching it climb is unique The shifts could be better. I agree Ooh a surprise track test. I like it Understeer? That really blows. I’m not surprised it’s done this bad it’s a Kia after all Wow. Definitely not a track car. Disappointing The car just weighs way too much. Honestly. Wow the abarth beat the stinger Damn the TTRS has like 3 seconds on the GTS in the 1/4 mile Even if you did mod it, that weight just kills it tremendously. Wish it was lighter The A7 would be nice to see on your channel, but you’ll probably be disappointed honestly HIT THAT SUBSCRIBE BUTTON Glad you didn’t go into a tree. This was a long one. And I enjoyed it as well. The Stinger is a bit below average for my liking. It’s just not enough of a car. I will be reviewing it soon though, my buddy said he would allow me to right after Christmas. It should be broken in by then, and I’ll understand how you felt about the car when I review the same one. This time, it won’t be all wheel drive though. Anyways, hope your weekend goes well. I’ll be in touch. Cya in the next vid!
Damn bro this is a long ass essay today. Alright, good thing I've got some time now. Dude it was effing cold that day. Like legit 25-30F out. Yeah, I was acting more "human" lol. Anyway go to your buddy Evan's car and play through the menus, you'll find the setting to turn the sound on and off. The GTS was advertised with this so-called Drift Mode as like the fancy thing. You can see how everything is a mesh of BMW/Benz/Audi/VW right? It's funny actually if you think about it. Yeah the 2020 TTRS has like actual RS paddles which is nice. The ones in the RS6 I drove a few months ago were decent, but still not up to par for a 100K+ USD car. This was a long video huh? Had to take a few breaks I see. Your buddy Evan is a smart guy. RWD is the way to go for these kind of cars. Catch you on the next one buddy!
Track Day lmao sorry for the long ass essay 😂😂😂😂😂😂 he’s gonna let me review his GTS. I’m gonna send over your vid to him if that’s ok with you. Shit cold weather is boost season!!!!!!
Nah, I loved it. It kept my attention better than the other TH-camrs who stare into the camera and try to give all possible opinions. That gets boring. I liked the back and forth argument.
Uh, the dialogue isnt natural and both of you seem very un natural when speaking. The information is there but just be more natural and go through a checklist of things to discuss. When you guys give data then reference a comparative anlysis. Aint nothing wrong with you guys having a natural conversation. Thats more entertaining to me as the viewer.
Yup, noted. First time trying this format and first time with Sean interacting in the car. There's room for improvement, but like I mentioned in a previous update, I'm trying to back away from screen time either way.
This shows if you have money and skills for a good production, a good video will not necessarily come out of it. The interactional scripting is not just awkward, but bizarre in the way each uses the other as a surrogate to relay info from a spec sheet. It's as bad as various CSI episodes where the conversations are contrived and the characters relay what they know, and the one they talk to give an explanation because it's an explanation for the audience they assume to be imbeciles. It doesn't fit because in the scheme of the show, you know that both characters know what each other is talking about, yet they explain what the other is saying. It's contrived and fake. That's actually what's going on here. The script writers assume the audience are dumb. The other comparison are old educational films from the 30s-70s, usually where there's an adult and a child speaking and everything comes with an explanation and the kid has no way of understanding until the adult sets them straight with a deep discussion. Overall, just weird scripting with the assumption that the audience is stupid. The timeframe for this review doesn't help, since everyone knows everything about this car and have seen more legit reviews, It was also fairly obvious they were going to pan the car and the conclusion shows they lost the plot. It revealed they were reviewing the car in terms of it not being a BMW or a Mercedes that cost 10k more, not reviewing the Stinger for what it is.
Trying new things bro, chill. I'm usually solo on the channel but I wanted to give screen time to someone else. No money here, just a dude trying to have a good time driving cars.
I gave constructive, deep, and grounded criticism and of course, "chill bro" is the answer. Also people don't like being treated as of dumb. It should be accepted that the scripting, style, and execution rub people the wrong way and are outdated, taken into consideration, and moved on from, but of course, defensiveness. Not to mention, it transparently appears as not a review, but a reverse engineering review or confirmation bias l, structured to give a win to German automakers with a price conclusion completely out of touch with the reality of the situation.
@TrackDay I think you should just look at this comment as a compliment. The dude clearly thinks you're a full scale production with writers, editors, and people like some of those bigger channels. It seems like it's probably his first time watching your stuff. I think it’s a departure from your usual work and it needs some TLC, but knowing what goes into your videos, I think you'll figure it out in an episode or two. But to bring it back to the vid, I’m really digging the orange on the Kia. Never thought I’d say that either.
actually, no, but I guess it matters more to get a word in there, no. matter how little sense what you're saying makes and how little relevance to my assertions there is.
Table of Contents
1:10 .... Street Driving Impressions
5:39 .... Drift Mode
6:32 .... Standing 1/2 Mile Acceleration
7:27 .... Track Test
9:33 .... Fast List
Track Day Stinger Gt owner here fair review on your part. I have the limited Gt as you can see in my profile picture. I believe in the potential of this car. Lap 3 only upgraded the baby turbos in the stinger and it’s already sitting at 640hp to the wheels 700 crank. Like you said it’s not built for the track but with upgrades I really believe this car could be a monster. I also live in NJ so I have the AWD. I honestly love the car. I would tell people to just get the base Gt as well and if you need AWD get it. Great review you got a new subscriber
Thanks for the sub and that's a beastly build! I'd love to check it out someday!
@@SpeedLabsMotorEnvy Amazing machine. 60K miles and counting. Haven't changed the brake pads yet!
This is effing solid dude. The fact that you have an index for your video shows the amount of information you can deliver.
@@robertb6135 which turbos did you upgrade to?
Gt owner here I thought his review was fair. I will say this I bought this car for its potential it has a lot and for the price it’s great. I bought the base Gt limited edition for $45,000 which I know initially isn’t cheap but Kia instantly took $7,500 off that sticker plus my trade in plus my down payment. So I really got the car for $33,500 brand new and was given another $5000 cause the yellows had paint issues. So really I bought the car for $28,500 brand new your simply not beating the value of this car even for $33k. Like I said I bought this car for its potential and it has a lot with a simple piggyback tune nothing else gets you to 440Hp. Most of my fellow stinger owners out there with basic bolt ons and a tune we are at 500Hp+ at the crank and 550 TQ. Lap 3 has upgraded our baby turbos in the stinger 700Hp and that’s only upgraded turbos that’s it. Transmission is believed to be good up to 800 Hp. Keep in mind this is a new platform . Guys are doing 11.5 1/4 mile times with piggyback tunes and basic bolt ons. Sorry for the long comment but I love this car and know the potential it has.
Im really considering this car, and your comment is pushing me more and more towards it
Daniel Tercero it’s a great car man you won’t be disappointed. I’m a member on the stinger forum too you can check it out if you have other questions. We have a great community and like I said the potential is there. Also I don’t know if your looking to go brand new or used but there are some really great deals on slightly used if you are looking to save some coin. Good luck to you hopefully you join us.
Subscriber and 2019 Stinger GT owner here (purchased Aug 2019). I can appreciate your no-nonsense and un-hyped review, especially coming from the "breadth" of cars you drive. 4 months ago, I ended up choosing the RWD base GT after testing various trims.
Base GT, RWD made the most sense (cost, weight, dynamics). It's the best performance value and a conclusion I think any true auto-enthusiast would arrive. Also, it didn't hurt Kia was rolling out summer clearance incentives (which are still going on for 2019s). My Hichroma Red base GT was $33k out the door, new. Helluva deal.
Since Aug, I've installed BMS intakes, BMS rear diff brace, and a BMS JB4 w/ wireless BT kit. An MBRP CBE is OTW. Running Map2 on 93 Octane, makes around 420whp and 500 wtrq. With launch control, the 255 Mich PS4's do hook up as long as temps are ideal. You should test one. Matter of fact, if you're near Richmond VA, you can test mine.
I got 6k off mine!
Thanks Richard! I agree, RWD + base GT is the way to go. That's the definition of value and performance. I'm definitely interested in seeing what mods can do to the Stinger GT platform. If I'm ever near Richmond, I'll hit you up!
@@SpeedLabsMotorEnvy just posted some #'s near the top of the comments from a few Draggy runs I've been doing. I'm looking to install a WMI kit with my JB4 tuner so I can run safer IAT's and maybe w/ E30 fuel. Currently though, she's easily a mid to low 12 car and possibly a high 11 with a prepped surface and proper tires.
@@koreandude81 I'm in Richmond! You should race my ISF 😬 I haven't raced a stinger yet
This was a very comprehensive review of everything Stinger GTS relayed. you basically covered every aspect of the car in less than 13 minutes. why is it that other channels spend 20+ minutes and only cover a few points on the car. Kudos to you man.
Sometimes I click into one of your vids that have been around for a little while and I see the level of engagement is just not proportional to the views. I think TH-cam is seriously underrating your channel and they need to step up their game.
The cinematography your videos couldn't get any better, amazing job!
Like how you change up the format from time to time! This one kind of reminds me of Comedians in Car Getting Coffee but you get jokes AND car stats. 😎
I'm so glad I found your channel. Very knowledgeable and your videos are high quality.
I agree
Dude nice video man! Over the top useful info, plus some good edits.
Had to pause at 3 min in and applaud you guys for the way you’re doing this. Awesome job. Answering the real questions I have spectacular job
Fantastic review as always and also thanks for the 1/4mile times in seconds 👍
I like the addition of the new guy and the back and forth banter. Reminds me of the johny-jason combo. Great shots of the car, the color grading in this is pretty on point. Keep it up 💪
New to the channel I love your videos. Keep up the great content!
Hey Dude! Beautiful video. I have not seen that color yet out in my area. I really dislike cars that shift at red line in "full manual".
Your channel is getting more and more rich with great content. We the viewers appreciate what you are putting out. Kumar is a dope addition to the channel.
YOU HAVE FANS BRO!
What you do not yet have is the fan base that you DESERVE.
Thanks man! It's a special color limited only to the GTS trim. You're right, I always wish I had a bigger fan base and but I'll keep grinding regardless. Each of these videos are a lot of work, especially when you're editing them right up until the release day. Kumar's gonna get more screen time soon!
@@SpeedLabsMotorEnvy I am kind of confused by the delay in your channel getting swept in the undertow that is the TH-cam alghorythm. It has to happen soon. Its pissin me off bruh. More eyes need to see your content and then those eyes will sub.
I feel the same way. I'm starting to second guess myself sometimes. Is the stuff I make just not what TH-cam wants to see or people want to see? Or did I piss off someone at TH-cam. It also doesn't help that they are constantly changing up the algorithm either.
I've been interested in one of these for some time now. I'm scared of the BMW'S because of reliability and maintenance cost.
It's a good value. The GT2 trim is nice but honestly too expensive at that point. GT or GTS is the way to go in terms of bang for the buck.
Late to the game watching this but you did an amazing job. Perfect review, all the aspects we're covered and I thoroughly enjoyed both of you in the car at the same time. That discussion gives another dimension to the review.
No biggie. I'm late to replying to comments myself on this one. Glad you enjoyed it!
I'll take the 10 year/100K mile warranty if I can get that kind of performance out of a sedan as well. What a great value the Stinger is.
Top notch production values. Very thorough and balanced content.
I think it is a long shot for this Korean Kia Stinger to catch up with other well known European sports models. The video presented a fair and detailed review. The beautiful scenery and the superb cinematography added extra points to the car.
I appreciate your perspective, Jerry. But have you driven the Stinger GTS as well as European sports models so that you can make a fair comparison? I used to own a Lotus Elise, Porsche Panamera, BMW M3, and an Audi S3 (among other cars). Just traded in the Porsche for the Stinger GTS and I'm loving it! Honesty, the Lotus was the most fun to drive, but the Stinger is fairly competitive with all of the others. It certainly beats them all with initial costs, maintenance, and repair costs... not to mention insurance! I do see your point, but the price tag is roughly $20,000 lower than comparable European sports cars. So, while the cars may not be an "apples to apples" comparison, the Stinger (particularly the GTS in my case) sure gives those cars a scrappy fight! Well done, Kia! Overall, I think the review was right on the money, but I might up the percentage from 80% to 85-90% actually. And plus, I feel so much less douchey getting out of a Kia than getting out of a Porsche, and it's more fun to get there. Just sayin'!
With traction and stability off the transmission will actually hold gears and wont up shift
Confirmed: Sport drive mode, press and hold "traction off" button for 3-4 seconds to disable both traction and stability. Bump shifter into manual mode (Base GT and GT1's only have this with the mechanical shifter). Shifts will hold. Happy drifting.
True, when I tried launch control, it held the gears.
if you turn off traction/stability it wont up shift in manual
Harold and Kumar!
I nearly spit my coffee out when I read this. Spot on (in a good way).
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
You guys are pulling the Harold and Kumar of Automotive world, haha.
The Stinger AWD got good numbers, but really curious how the RWD version is. I would personally put this close to the Lexus FSport or the Q50 Red Sport. The upcoming CT4-V (4-cyl) or CT5-V (V6) may be a possible competitor, but still waiting more info on those.
I don't think the Harold & Kumar car combo has been done yet 😄
I think in stock form, the Stinger GT/S/1/2 is a good match for the Q50RS in straight line and around corners. I have a feeling the Stinger would be quicker around a track for whatever reason based on the lap time, but yeah, if it were me, RWD is the way to go. Only reason I grabbed the AWD version is because of (1) Drift Mode test and (2) all the other cars in the same class that I've reviewed are the AWD variant. I do want to try an F Sport at some point though.
This new presenter adds a good dynamic
I pick up my 2019 federation orange GTS on Friday and cannot wait!
Super high quality vids make me forget I'm on TH-cam sometimes
For engine swaps you want the heaviest factory configuration. You can swap out the extra components and use that headroom for larger engine.
I dig your video style! Definitely earned a New subscriber
In case anyone was wondering what a mildly modified Stinger GT's numbers would look like...
I have a 2019 Stinger GT RWD (base GT trim below the GTS). BMS Intakes, MBRP exhaust, BMS diff brace, JB4 tuner. #'s recorded w/ Draggy. Best run on Map 3, limiting boost in 1st for launch control, 0-60mph in 4.40 sec (4.13 sec w/ 60ft rollout), 1/4 mile in 12.38 @ 115.75 mph, 0-100 mph in 9.54 sec, 0-130 mph in 15.95 sec, and a 60-130 mph in 11.55 sec. All runs performed on Indy 500s, 255/35 front, 285/30 rear on 20" SF07s.
Thatdudeinblue is releasing a small review on my car soon for those curious about the setup (although he doesn't do #'s like this channel).
I just closed on Kia Stinger GT2 for $37,000 before taxes and tags. An equivalent Audi S5 sportback is $67,000 and even if you are lucky to get a 10% discount on the Audi, the price difference is significantly more than $10,000. People love to compare MSRPs but only suckers pay sticker.
Love my Kia Stinger GT2. One thing people miss is how nice a winter car it is. It eats through the snow here in Sweden, and above all, the turbo is tested at -25 C, at that temp, you are not even supposed to start the competitors cars.. That is huge.
Too bad they didn't want to lift the car out of the brand. It should be Stinger, sold at Stinger stores, because the brand does drive off customers. People will go for a Mustang over this, though their loss really.. :P
Is your car RWD or AWD? If it is RWD, do you find that your car handles well in the snow?
@@princeD1100 AWD, it's wonderful.
@@liljagarelilja3088 You are fortunate to have the AWD model available in your country. In the UK only the RWD is available. How do you find the fuel economy? Does using the auto stop/start feature help with fuel economy?
@@princeD1100 Fuel economy is what it is with a engine like this, usually get 10km/ .9-1 l. Live outside of towns so the auto start/stop is rarely used. :)
@@liljagarelilja3088 Living in the UK especially in the inner cities, the auto stop/start helps especially when in traffic and traffic lights.
The crazy thing about the stinger is the base trims are really starting to drop in price. I have seen a few around for under 27K and even on mark up used sites like carmax they are dropping to under 30k even if you think you can get more performance out of something other then the Stinger when you look at something like a 2015 Mustang GT or Charger RT or a Audio S4 at well 25K or more then remember that the Kia Stinger at its oldest is only a year old and becoming a really strong used option.
You can just pull out the awd fuse under the hood and then it’s rwd it works and no problems to come its safe! And only traction off is drift mode with stability off as well it pulls you back for some reason so just do traction control, I own a 2018 gt2 limited and it’s 100% worth the money most bang for your buck this thing is a beast
The Genesis G70 is less weight and more refinement for similar money. I hope you plan to test it.
I'm also curious to see your thoughts on the new Supra.
I do have plans to test both the G70 and G80 soon. I did a tuned Supra back a few months ago, but I want to get my hands on a stock one and do a head to head. What do you think would be a good car to compare it to (that hasn't been over done)?
Track Day I'm looking forward to the Genesis videos!
Supra is kind of in its own category now that I think about it, but its competitive set might include Porsche Cayman, BMW M2/Z4, Corvette C8, Alfa 4C.
Launch control in the stinger doesn’t build boost. If you do parking break launch it actually builds boost n hauls ass. I consistently get 12.55 in the 1/4 and 4.2 0-60 doing parking brake launch. And I’m 100% stock. I have videos on my page of dragy runs. Great video btw!
I wait for Thursday’s because this!
46k damn that’s a good price! But it’s too heavy for a track car and also weight distribution will effects cornering.
OIF/OEF-0341 50k for a 365 hp GT sport sedan isn’t bad
Finally someone smart enough to include both miles per hour and kilometers per hour! 👍
Binge watching all your videos now!
keep up the great work.
I’m currently in the market for a sport sedan for the family.
It’s come down to the M340i, C43 AMG sedan, Audi S4, and the Stinger GT.
If you were getting a Sub $59k sedan what would you get?
To be honest, if you could spend all the way up to 59K, get an M340i in RWD (if that's feasible for you). C43 AMG comes in second for me, only because they don't give you the RWD option.
Track Day Thanks for the quick response! Love your videos BTW.
The M340i is definitely impressive and it shows in both videos you’ve made.
I’ll most likely lease and of all these cars the BMW has been leasing best.
I've driven all of those the bmw is definitely a good deal with that kind of power band.the c43 is the most attractive of the set inside. I wouldn't bother with the s4 ,not enough there to make it stand out. The stinger is also worth a look, I can recommend it as an owner ,the lease deals are insane for the stinger right now but take them all for a spin and go by feel.
Amazing cinematography.
I like the new dynamic duo! Not a fan of the color or the grill but seems like a very good overall value. Thanks for the video!
Please can you do a comparison video of the Stinger & Lexus GSF? I remember you thought the Stinger would be better in the review of the GSF. Is it?
Don't take this personal. But this one felt a lil odd to me, with u 2 talking to eachother you both kinda stay using ur trademarkable voice-over tone but try to do normal conversations which makes it feel weird to me.
Maybe he just talks like that in real life. And sits with perfect posture all of the time.
@@JimboJonas Asians man. It's what we do.
I've been watching this channel long enough to just assume that's his real voice.
Does Shawn make content as well? Loved his insight!
slick review... i like it !
I'm really surprised with this KIA and the 1/2 mile time, but likewise i would totally pay 10k more for a mercedes or bmw. lol great ending "post credit" scene!!
I think this was a pretty fair review and he kept away from bias and stuck to facts for the most part. Like he said this is not a track car it's a grand tourer it's made for the streets. Hopefully they will release the GTR super performance model next year .Thanks for using my stinger for the video!
Thanks Dexter! It's a small world we live in!
They are more than likely not going to release any GTR model for this car. Sales aren’t doing any good, was reading that next gen may not even come. So enjoy this model.
This car needs a serious tune & boost with some after market suspension & breaks upgrades to be a decent track car. But at that price point , It makes it a realistic option .
Solid stuff. Top Gear on a budget.
You guys do these awesome why haven’t you blown up😂😂
How long does it take to film and put together one of these videos?
This was a long one, but I usually spend about 2-3 days filming and then 2-3 days editing. This one was a solid 3 day shoot + 4 day edit.
Been waiting for you to get your hands on one of these. But dang, 4000 pounds? Not cool Kia. Stinger needs to go on a diet.
Better that a 4200lb gt500...... Lol
@@patriotsfan1236 Gt500 probably has double the Torque of a Kia Stinger to pull all that unnecessary weight
It’s a GT car, not a track weapon.
C43 m340i S5 all weigh about 4000lbs. In today’s age cars are not light even sport sedans.
dawg this a movie
The BRZ only 1 sec behind on road course... I think id try that and build on it.
Great review.
Any chance you can get your hands on the M8?
I'll try. I know it's not exactly the same thing, but I did an M850i a few months ago.
Great review as always, but you failed to mention that the Genesis G70 would be a better buy with the same engine
Thanks, I suspect that the G70 would be better as well. I want to get my hands on one before coming to a definitive conclusion though.
Track Day try to get the 3.3 one with rear wheel drive
100%. I'd like to try both. I only want to do the AWD version because the rest of the cars I've tested in this class are AWD so that will make it fair.
It’s popcorn time 😎
I kinda wish Kia would make a coupe version which could be neat
I hate that the GTS only comes in orange. Otherwise I'd be rocking one right now
You guys both sound like NPCs 😂😂 loving the vids though, keep em coming!
Why does he change the depth of his voice in the videos
pads rotors fluid and braided lines. track all day
btw GT Base w/LSD = GTS in drift mode (save $15k)
Just......awesome
Thanks for the legend on the pinned comment. Hour friend looks pretty fucking cold btw 😂
I see acting in this vid 😂
Yeah my buddy Evan has the same orange he said the same thing about the 1/800
It does sound very nice yes, and I’ve heard it in person. But I wanna see this speaker shit
Drift mode? Never heard of that in this car
I still have no idea how this car weighs so much. It’s insane. You’ll probably save 200-300lbs with RWD
And I saw yesterday a stinger GT with a widebody kit. Looked nice
I’ll come back in a bit
Ok I’m back for a bit now. Yes snow driving with all wheel drive is awesome
Yeah, I do not like the enterior. I have no idea why they did all this loony tuney shit with the dash
The wheel is very nice for sure
And the paddles are better than the Audi paddles. I think the new 2020 TTRS is getting an upgrade in the paddle department 👀
Your friend loves bad ideas I see 😂
YES DRIFT MODE
Wow it gets plenty of angle. That’s a big shock for all wheel drive
I’ll come back again in a bit
Alright here I am again!
Looks so fun in drift mode
Yeah my buddy Evan has a RWD stinger
Oof redline upshifts are lame
Wow that’s not bad actually for a sedan. Just watching it climb is unique
The shifts could be better. I agree
Ooh a surprise track test. I like it
Understeer? That really blows. I’m not surprised it’s done this bad it’s a Kia after all
Wow. Definitely not a track car. Disappointing
The car just weighs way too much. Honestly.
Wow the abarth beat the stinger
Damn the TTRS has like 3 seconds on the GTS in the 1/4 mile
Even if you did mod it, that weight just kills it tremendously. Wish it was lighter
The A7 would be nice to see on your channel, but you’ll probably be disappointed honestly
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Glad you didn’t go into a tree. This was a long one. And I enjoyed it as well. The Stinger is a bit below average for my liking. It’s just not enough of a car. I will be reviewing it soon though, my buddy said he would allow me to right after Christmas. It should be broken in by then, and I’ll understand how you felt about the car when I review the same one. This time, it won’t be all wheel drive though.
Anyways, hope your weekend goes well. I’ll be in touch. Cya in the next vid!
Damn bro this is a long ass essay today. Alright, good thing I've got some time now.
Dude it was effing cold that day. Like legit 25-30F out. Yeah, I was acting more "human" lol. Anyway go to your buddy Evan's car and play through the menus, you'll find the setting to turn the sound on and off.
The GTS was advertised with this so-called Drift Mode as like the fancy thing.
You can see how everything is a mesh of BMW/Benz/Audi/VW right? It's funny actually if you think about it.
Yeah the 2020 TTRS has like actual RS paddles which is nice. The ones in the RS6 I drove a few months ago were decent, but still not up to par for a 100K+ USD car.
This was a long video huh? Had to take a few breaks I see. Your buddy Evan is a smart guy. RWD is the way to go for these kind of cars.
Catch you on the next one buddy!
Track Day lmao sorry for the long ass essay 😂😂😂😂😂😂 he’s gonna let me review his GTS. I’m gonna send over your vid to him if that’s ok with you. Shit cold weather is boost season!!!!!!
Sounds good man! That'd be great!
Good video. Lots of potential for this channel. In the future, try not to sound so scripted.
When can we get Walmart Dan in one of these videos
😄
V6 or V8 ?
TT V6
Bro I appreciate the story angle, but the first 3 mins feel too scripted. 😖
That ending though 😂🤣
Nah, I loved it. It kept my attention better than the other TH-camrs who stare into the camera and try to give all possible opinions. That gets boring. I liked the back and forth argument.
No worries, always trying new things and seeing what works and what doesn't. Btw, I might get my hands on an Exige soon!
@@SpeedLabsMotorEnvy Nice!!! 👍
Real wheel drive stinger is 6-8 seconds faster per lap if your going to track it rear wheel drive is much better.
Why is everyone on the track driving with a passenger? It's not a rally stage and just adds unnecessary weight to the car🤔
I'd ike to see more on the car, the driving and techniques, rather than discussions.
Theres only 800 of those in that orange color in the world? Yeah kinda calling bs on that one
Great acting 😂
Your plus 1 is painful
whoo!
Pure 🔥
How to lose any kind of credits as car reviewer in few words "I would've preferred a digital dash"
That car is a fucking pile....Hoondi Krap
What bad actors the indian dude especially
These convos sound so forced and scripted…
It doesn't come close to being as good as the German competition. Simply a bargain for someone that can't afford one.
It’s a KIA, end of story. I would never step a foot in one of those. Cheap brand and quality.
Hitting over 130mph on a public road??? Somebody might report you. Better be careful
Can we just please read disclaimers? It's a closed private road.
Uh, the dialogue isnt natural and both of you seem very un natural when speaking. The information is there but just be more natural and go through a checklist of things to discuss. When you guys give data then reference a comparative anlysis. Aint nothing wrong with you guys having a natural conversation. Thats more entertaining to me as the viewer.
Yup, noted. First time trying this format and first time with Sean interacting in the car. There's room for improvement, but like I mentioned in a previous update, I'm trying to back away from screen time either way.
This shows if you have money and skills for a good production, a good video will not necessarily come out of it. The interactional scripting is not just awkward, but bizarre in the way each uses the other as a surrogate to relay info from a spec sheet. It's as bad as various CSI episodes where the conversations are contrived and the characters relay what they know, and the one they talk to give an explanation because it's an explanation for the audience they assume to be imbeciles. It doesn't fit because in the scheme of the show, you know that both characters know what each other is talking about, yet they explain what the other is saying. It's contrived and fake. That's actually what's going on here. The script writers assume the audience are dumb. The other comparison are old educational films from the 30s-70s, usually where there's an adult and a child speaking and everything comes with an explanation and the kid has no way of understanding until the adult sets them straight with a deep discussion.
Overall, just weird scripting with the assumption that the audience is stupid. The timeframe for this review doesn't help, since everyone knows everything about this car and have seen more legit reviews, It was also fairly obvious they were going to pan the car and the conclusion shows they lost the plot. It revealed they were reviewing the car in terms of it not being a BMW or a Mercedes that cost 10k more, not reviewing the Stinger for what it is.
Trying new things bro, chill. I'm usually solo on the channel but I wanted to give screen time to someone else. No money here, just a dude trying to have a good time driving cars.
I gave constructive, deep, and grounded criticism and of course, "chill bro" is the answer. Also people don't like being treated as of dumb. It should be accepted that the scripting, style, and execution rub people the wrong way and are outdated, taken into consideration, and moved on from, but of course, defensiveness. Not to mention, it transparently appears as not a review, but a reverse engineering review or confirmation bias l, structured to give a win to German automakers with a price conclusion completely out of touch with the reality of the situation.
@TrackDay I think you should just look at this comment as a compliment. The dude clearly thinks you're a full scale production with writers, editors, and people like some of those bigger channels. It seems like it's probably his first time watching your stuff. I think it’s a departure from your usual work and it needs some TLC, but knowing what goes into your videos, I think you'll figure it out in an episode or two. But to bring it back to the vid, I’m really digging the orange on the Kia. Never thought I’d say that either.
actually, no, but I guess it matters more to get a word in there, no. matter how little sense what you're saying makes and how little relevance to my assertions there is.
@sachelle babbar lol you're being to fragile, no one is feeling dumb here