#96 Converting an Air Compressor into a Vacuum Pump
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- In order to more effectively stabilize and dye spalted wood. I needed a vacuum pump. This video documents my conversion of an portable jobsite sir compressor into a vacuum pump. The compressor still works also.
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Thanks a lot Stephen, been following a few of your vids this morning from Australia and I'm learning a lot, will continue watching in future. Love ya work.
Thanks Steve you have made my day I have nearly brought vacuum pump off eBay Then come across your your tube video I said yes this is exactly what I want and also save money. Steve keep with good works. God bless you
Great video subject, Stephen. You always show "where there is a will there is a way" to be so true.
Thanks,
Lee
+Lee Waterman Thanks Lee. I really enjoy tinkering and working on new things. Hey I finally figured out how to change the music volume separate from the voice over. It really is easy to do. Did you notice the change?
Thanks for this video helped me out a lot. I just happen to have a Dewalt compressor and it has a filter on the intake side. So all I need to do is just plumb it up. Thanks so much for the help and great NEWS. Larry
I tried this conversion this morning with my Airmaster Tiger 15/55. It has two cylinders pulling air in from a common housing with a filter. I fashioned a thick wooden disk with a rubber gasket where it comes up against the rim of the circular housing. I secured it with a bolt that fitted the socket inside. This originally held a plastic cover with some vent holes in it. A small hose union also goes through my wooden disc to connect up to my vacuum chamber.
I ran the compressor and a vacuum was achieved within about 2 seconds ! - The needle on my vacuum gauge remained stationary after reaching it and didn't creep up any more. but it was only around 1/3 of the vacuum I can get with my hand pump though I have to squeeze that pump very hard towards the end. Even though it is not a very good vacuum, it might be enough for my purpose which is remove bubbles from mixed resin.
Glad yours is working. doesn't sound like you have any leaks. Could be that you have a leaky seal which will only let it pull a certain amount of vacuum. I have good degassing for resins anything over 15 hg seems to work well though maybe a little slower. Thank you for the conversation. Take care.
Another great video Stephen, thanks for bringing this idea to us. Can't wait to try this.
+Edward David Thanks Ed. I have been using this thing a really good bit since I made this mod. It works great and as good as any "vacuum pump" out there.
Your timing on this video fit my schedule perfectly as I've started looking for a vacuum system to do some spalted oak myself. I too was wanting to convert a compressor, so thanks.
Tom Wilcox's idea works well too, I used an automotive compressor to put a compressor on my truck. I found that an old (60's) Chrysler air conditioning compressor and they are a 2 stage compressor, way better.
I use a toaster oven to dry my blanks, if you wait till winter it reduces the house heating cost. It only takes an hour at 150 degrees. (checked with my delmhorst moisture meter)
I'm 118 on the like list.
Tom, is the 2 stage you speak of another way of saying it's like a twin cylinder compressor? I was never a Chrysler fan but those compressors are beasts. 1 of my 1st-grade school hacks was making a bike tire pump from 1! It's been so long since I've seen one, I can't remember what to hook up where! lol
Great description - thanks. You just saved me the cost of a vacuum pump!
I've been thinking of using a food saver vacuum. Hoping to find one at a thrift store. Great video by the way!! If I get one going I will share my findings.
Thanks for making this look doable. I have a compressor like yours, so I think you just saved me the price of a vacuum pump. Thank you again.
Thank you very much. This project is very doable and can same you a lot of money over a dedicated vacuum pump. Glad you enjoyed this project.
I never would have thought of that,great idea Stephen.Now if only I could find my old compressor!
+Thomas Mccool (McCool's Wood Works) Thank you Thomas. Just look under the mud. that is where I found this one. LOL! Glad you enjoyed this project.
Very innovative and practical, Stephen. I have an old compressor in the barn that I mothballed because it had a leak in the line going into the tank. If it still runs, I think I've found my next project. Thanks!
+Paul Gibson Thank you Paul. I hope your build goes well. The old compressor is a great choice. I think you will like your results.
As is custom, I compliment your ingenuity & your desire to share this knowledge with the masses.
I would like to share some of my knowledge with you, if you don't mind. My first thought is: As you wait for the dye to penetrate the medium, once the bubbles are done perking, you can start working with you newly dyed materials. The waiting period after the perking at 0 pressure is gratuitous & unnecessary. The space the air was taking up is immediately replaced by the dye, so the extra wait is not necessary. My second thought is: If your interested, you can make a good vacuum table with your compressor/vacuum. For woodworkers, it's great for curved forming & veneering. When the molding is done, you have an air source for sanding tools & spraying the finish. That's a handy compressor/vacuum Thanks for sharing.
Great work, Steve! I will follow your lead....
Excellent application of an old idea, I could use a compressor/vacuum pump. I will have to try this. Thank You...
Great video. Thanks for showing how you made the fan, you know some of us will damage our fan also, Lol. Always enjoys all your videos. Keep them coming!
+Joan Busby Thank you Joan. I am glad you are still enjoying my videos. It is very easy to tear the fan blades off. This is just a simple fix.
As always great video mate. Great explanation on how to use something unused into something useful. Keep up the good work. Guido
+GiddyUp Hiluxury Thank Guido. GLad you enjoyed this little project. I have been using it for about a week now and it works exactly the way I intended.
Very interesting and informative, I didn't know you could pull vacuum with a compressor. I make a lot of pens and you have me thinking........ Thanks for sharing.
+David Sutton Thanks David. Glad you enjoyed this project. I have been using this thing a lot since I did it and am very happy with the performance from stabilizing and dyeing blanks. Seems to work fantastic so far.
Great video Stephen, very interesting, thanks for sharing, take care Harry
+The Little Garden Shed Workshop Thanks Harry. Glad you enjoyed this project. Now I can use this vacuum for all sorts of projects from dyeing and stabilizing to clamping.
Awesome video, I learned exactly what I wanted to know, thank you sir
Hi Steve,
I'm sure someone has already mentioned the danger of implosion. What we do in the lab for our vacuum jars is either wrap them in electrical tape, or put some plastic mesh (like an onion bag) around them to minimize the potential damage if implosion does occur. I've also used a brake vacuum hand pump, but it's only good for a small vessel for 3-4 pen blanks.
+Tim Whitehead Thank you Tim. I appreciate your suggestions and insight.
Well timed and well made video Stephen. Good info I learned a lot. Thanks.
+Gerald Shultz Thank you Gerald. Glad you enjoyed this project and found it helpful.
Steve, great description of how to make new use of an un-used piece of equipment. If you do find a need to use it as a compressor though, consider wrapping that new inlet with some type of air filter. Not doing so will make the unit useless for anything other than a boat anchor.
Thanks
+Mark Freeland Excellent point Mark and thank you for the suggestion. The original intakes did not have a filter but when I use the new one it will. Thank you again.
Thanks, Stephen. That was instructive.
Thanks for the tip Stephen, this has to happen soon as I seem to have accumulated a lot of punky wood
I converted mine recently. It had a threaded port. Made it easy to plumb it up for a vacuum. Cost me about $5.00 for fittings.
Steve : It's people like yourself that make you tube fun. If you would like to quiet things down a bit,try setting the compressor unit down inside of an old picnic chest. you have to drill a few for lines and so the pump can get some air.
Thanks for your Videos
Karl
+karl richards Thanks Karl. Glad you enjoyed this project and thanks also for your suggestion. This would really be nice to keep it a little quieter in the shop. Thanks again.
Awesome Job man.
what a great tip stephen nice job.
+Robert Kutz Glad you enjoyed this video Robert. Thanks for commenting.
idea: keep a male fitting on hand with no tool attatched. and leave the compressor side (the hose) plugged in. When you want to use it as a vacuum, just plug the male quick connect fitting into your compressor's female quick connect. you could also use the small air blower attachment and keep the trigger depressed with a rubber band or something. This will basically just opens the tank to the outside air. This way you don't have to mess with unplugging the hose everytime which could be a pain and could wear the hose down prematurely. The quick connect will probably last forever, and if they do wear, it's simpler to replace than the hose.
Good video, very informative. I used a compressor off a up-right freezer. Works very well.
+Gary Bell Excellent Gary. It is the same principle and should work really well. Thanks for commenting.
Gary Bell
cool, I just happen to have several air compressor in the shop. You just save me big time thank you
Thank you Stan. Glad I could be of help! Enjoy your project.
well done great video , and i will steal your vac/comp idea .. BTW thought I was the only one with a organised shop ;)
Fantastic tutorial, I must try this with my pancake compressor.
+Michael Trent Thanks Michael. Glad you enjoyed his project. Hope it helps. Let me know how your build goes.
+Stephen I was wondering about the strength of the pickle jar...then I thought about canning my mom used to do...maybe mason jars would be safer. thanks for the very well explained video. Looking forward to the part 2 of the stabilizing video!
+Monte Turner Thanks Monte. The jar used in this video is no longer used. It was just used to test the pump. My new vacuum chamber is much more reliable. I just completed the upload of Part 2. Hope you enjoy it.
This is GREAT! FIrst I have the exact compressor (maybe newer) but I did get a free one off a garage sale this summer... guy said it didn't work. I brought it home and replaced the fuse!~
+Colin Léger That is great Colin. I was surprised to find a fuse in mine. If it had stopped working for some reason, it may have just been thrown away. Great score there sir
Ingenious stuff Stephen, normally this sort of thing goes way over my head, but i know actually understand what you did.....lol
Great video mate
Take care
Mike
+Mike Waldt Thanks Mike I have really been learning a lot with this vacuum pump and chamber. Stabilizing and casting. No more wood to rotten for me my friend. Glad you enjoyed this project.
Absolutely amazing!
great video very helpful. ..thanks
thanks for all explanation it is so useful.
More then excellent video man!! I've been looking for a compressor for a while now, to have some air supply for when I hollow, but knowing I can get a vacuum pump out of it too! I've been wanting to experiment with blanks and colored epoxy.... Thank you again, and yes, I know it's not your idea, you didn't invent this, you were not the muse for the original idea, you've got no idea who is the first of firsts who thought this up. Thank you for clearing that point :)
+Yuval Lahav Thank you my good friend Yuval. This compressor will pull vacuum as well as any vacuum pump of its size. The small 12 vdc ones will also pull as strong. Just not as fast. You will enjoy your experiments with the dye and epoxy. I have. it is however, pretty expensive for the resins. I do not want anyone to think I am claiming this idea. Glad I made that clear. Thanks again Yuval.
To help the pump , you can temporarily disconnect the output tube to the container
so it will have less resist to the building of vacuum and you may get higher vacuum value.
Benny
+Benny Naor He had the drain valve open.
+Benny Naor Thanks Benny and good point. However, Thomas Hanson hit the nail on the head. I keep the compressor tank petcock valve open while using the vacuum side. This will not allow pressure to build in the tank.
A very interesting and enjoyable video Stephen! and something to consider making in the future , I don't really want to convert my new compressor In case I balls it up LoL however, there are always boot sales and auctions where its possible to pick up a cheap one to have a go at making one . Great video Stephen and thanks for sharingAll the best Bram.
+Brams shed Thanks Bram. Yes, I would definitely start with a cheaper one to begin with. Glad you enjoyed this project.
good project again stephen. i'm sure when mt harbor freight vaccume pump craps out i'll be asking qusstions. till then good luck and keep up the good work
+hubie hubco Thanks Hubie. Glad you enjoyed this little project. I look forward to our conversations on this matter.
great video just what i needed
Thank you Oliver. Glad you found this project helpful.
I think you could use a five gallon bucket with a lid that has o rings, I think their called gamma seal lids. Then you could use a steamer basket to load your wood in.
What is on your vacuum chamber lid to seal the deal?
Very nice Steve. You're quite an ingenious guy! Have you thought about trying the opposite application? A Pressure Cooker to infuse the dye into your wooden samples. Just a thought! Good luck!
+woodstoney Thank you sir. Glad you enjoyed this project. Never tried a pressure cooker. I know a lot of people use pressure pots when casting acrylic to remove air bubbles. May give it a shot one day. Right now this vacuum chamber is giving really good results.
I have been using a food saver for a vacuum source, I like this idea much better. Thanks for sharing.-------- Stephen I have been using Ritz fabric die, but being water based it presents some issues with wood. I watched a vid of Molly Winton (pyrography), where she divulged she uses alcohol based dye, used in Leather work. This should penetrate the wood better because alcohol has a lower viscosity than water. Plus it should cause less swelling and maybe alleviate kiln drying, remember alcohol is very flammable! Yes I ordered some on the web. They don't give any dye away, and I'm still looking for a cheaper way. --------I thought you got yourself in a "pickle" with the broken fan, but no worries.-------- Since you have an excellent vacuum source you can now explore bagging in place of clamping, this trick can turn a difficult glue up into something manageable.
+Stephen Johnson Thank you Stephen. I too use the RIT dies for coloring wood and agree that the alcohol based works better. Thank you for sharing your ideas and helping folks.
Hi Stephen! :) Steve and I are making our vacuum chamber now, and I came here to find out what you used to seal your lid with. Found the answer in the comments: "What did you use to make the seal on the glass top?" Stephen Ogle: "I used a closed cell foam as a gasket." Excellent! We also found that some use silicone caulk. We tried a test last night with a couple of different types of rubber mat materials. One only worked if you pressed really really hard to create a vacuum but it didn't hold the seal. We tried another type of mat material and it held much better but still didn't hold the seal. So now we are looking for a seal material that will work perfectly. Hopefully there are not leaks elsewhere, but Steve used pipe seal etc so it's hopefully just the seal in the lid that's not holding. Wish us luck!
Thank you Janet for writing. I did not talk much about the vacuum chamber because at the time it was still relatively untested. I used closed cell craft foam that I bought at Walmart to create the gasket on this chamber, however I have since purchased a piece of 1/2" plexiglass or lexan and am using it now. Works better than the pot lid. Just make sure it is thick enough to take the pressure. Also instead of a gasket I used a plastic tube (weed eater fuel line) around the rim of the pot. You have to cut one side of the tube so it can open up and be placed onto the rim. I hope this helps. Let me know how it turns out.
Hey, thanks so much for the lengthy response, Stephen! I read what you had to say to Steve and he was really interested to hear what you did. He was thinking about the idea you are now using, tubing that is slit all the way around. Right now we have silicone caulk drying on our pot and are hoping that it will provide the perfect seal. I'll let you know if it worked. If not, we'll try what you're doing, but I hope we won't have to!
Hey Stephen, thanks for the video, you may have just saved my wife some money. Question though, and I'm not sure if I will explain myself correctly... I had to erase my post, my bad, I jumped the gun. THANK YOU JUST THE SAME SIR
Thank you Jose. Glad you enjoyed this project my friend and found it helpful. Good luck on your build.
23:06 hey, I'm having a bigger compressor. I was thinking of using it to support my wet and dry vacuum cleaner instead of buying a carpet extractor. Please advise
Steve I am going to make a vacuum like yours..can I use it to pull a vacuum on AC as well..
Steve thanks for the info
+gulfmedic1 Thank you sir. Glad you found this project helpful.
sweet vac , great job
+gregm312 Thank you sir. Glad you enjoyed this project.
i been using a seal a mill you can get these at yard sales or goodwill for 5 to 10 dollars it will draw 26 to 28 bar i put a shut off valve on it let it run then shut valve when vacuum drops start it up again after first hour it will hold vacuum. i let it set for 24 hours at 26 to 28 bars.then release. it takes 4 to 5 days for the catus juice to enter wood. if you marh the jar you can see how much goes in;
+KNIFE MAKER Excellent suggestion sir. Glad you shared your ideas and methods with us. I really like the idea of using the vacuum food storage pump.
Hey, I just came cross your video, I want to do this as a backup for the vacuum pump that runs my milker for my cows. I'm wondering, how long can this thing run without hurting it? Will it work for 20 minutes of use?
good that steve thanks
First!!!!! great video. I've been thinking about making one, now with you're video should be a piece of cake Thanks for sharing.
+David Clauson Thanks David. They are really not hard to convert. The 12vdc car tire inflators work well and can pull the same suction as long as it is in good shape. Glad you enjoyed this project.
I'm looking to do vacuum forming with kydex & other plastics, which need a quick high volume suction very quickly before the material cools. So I'm wondering if i could use this method, but to create vacuum in the compressor tank itself?
Thank you sir. Glad you enjoyed this project. Vacuum can be stored inside a tank. I am unsure about the compressor tank itself though. They are designed to hold compressed air and may not hold vacuum. I have seen people build vacuum tanks from Schedule 40 PVC pipe for just that purpose. It should work fine for your application. I hope this helps. Take care!
where did you get gauge?
Where does the moisture go?
Hi Steve, You mentioned using water based dye. I have a question. Do you use water based dye to color your blank and then Cactus Juice to stabilize your blank? Can the processes be combined? Can dyes be added to the Cactus Juice? Thanks for sharing!
Thank you Don. Yes, dye can be added to the Cactus Juice and it makes some really beautiful blanks also. I would avoid water based dyes in it though. I use the Alumilite Dyes for the Cactus juice. Water based dyes I use on bare wood mostly. I hope this helps.
Hello Stephen, Can this same setup be used with a vacuum press bag for veneering or is that a different concept than what you did for stabilizing wood? Thanks and great video.
+Ordinary Woodworker Thank you sir for your question. The answer is that you absolutely can use this same system for your vacuum bags. After all it is simply a vacuum pump regardless of what you use it for. Glad you enjoyed this project.
Where u been? Always looked forward to your videos but have seen none in a year or more.
Steve what is that yellow wrap around the pot, i know its something to help seal but i can tell what it is
+gulfmedic1 Thank you sir for your question. It is just a closed cell craft foam I bought at Hobby Lobby. You can get it at most retail stores that sell crafting supplies. I use it as a gasket to seal the top to the pot. Hope this helps. Make sure it is "Closed Cell".
good stuff!
+Xyienced Thanks. Glad you enjoyed this project.
Very good did you make the seal on the glass top thanks for the video
Thank you Richard. Yes, I used a closed cell foam I found at Hobby Lobby as a gasket.
Sir how do you have your vacuum pressure gauge hooked up inline? Great idea. What have you replaced you jar with. I just find the jar and now may have to upgrade? Thanks!
Thank you Charles My gauge has two 1/4 inch fittings to fit it in line with your 1/4 inch hose. The vacuum chamber I use now is made from a steel pot (from Walmart) that I converted. You can see this pot at the end of this video. Click here to see it. th-cam.com/video/qq0c8qsx3eA/w-d-xo.html
Thanks Stephen.
I suppose I should ask, how did those blanks turn out? Was really wondering about using water based dye on veneer oak, kind of like skate board ply. Any thoughts?
Thank you Martin. The Dye worked very well on these blanks. Not sure about your Oak veneer. If the wood is hard it could be difficult to get the dye into the fibers. I would suggest testing it on a scrap piece first. I hope this helps.
@@StephenOgle What dye did you use? The question that you knew was coming.
@@StephenOgle Thanks Ogle, but I think I cracked the case. I am using generic fabric dye, mixed heavy in mason jars, which are living on a portable skillet dressed in a silicone mat. 70C for 3-4 days. 1/16th veneer and no need to sink it as it settles. Successful dye infusion and as a bonus, different woods have different colours with the same dye batch. No need for fancy vaccuum. Still gonna try this mod one of these days (looking at my 1.5HP compressor).
great job but if you only need to pull a vacuum you could make something for less than $8.00 it will still have to be connected to the compressor.
you can make it out of a 4 x 4 chunk of plastic or even wood and some fittings.
or just buy the 001-at-10153 4.2cfm for $20.00 or less.
+gamerepair2020 Thank you and I appreciate your suggestions. I wanted to build a venturi but could not find any specs on them. Could you elaborate where the information might be available. Thanks again.
awesome
thanks . I've noticed you trouble on fan motors lol but can't you make your fans with your CNC MACHINE ? just a thought for future videos for your cnc with Corian material
+timothy mcswain Thanks Timothy. I hate fans! Of course because of these failures I have become quite proficient at making replacements. LOL!! Good idea to use the X-Carve for making one. I will give it a shot. Have to design it first. Thanks for the idea.
What gave me the ideas was all the different types of tools people was making with them .just about anything for the lathe within reason
Sir,Are you able to use it on the lathe with a vacuum chuck?
Thank you sir. I could use this on my vacuum chuck with excellent results. However, I am uncertain about the life of the motor and how it would hold up. It definitely has the power I just do not know how long it could run under a load.
I appreciate the reply. Really liked the video and going to give it a try. I watched video of yours that you said your son was going into the military. Please pass on my gratitude and thanks to him. To you and your family, thank you for your sacrifice to this awesome country as well.
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Wow in short time iam thinking to vacum my car ac system with this
Steve, That's a great idea. I have the same compressor sitting out in the shed. Do you think it would work for a vacuum chuck?
+Russ Stolzoff Thanks Russ. Yes, I believe it would. It pumps a good deal of air and and will reach vacuum pressures as well as any vacuum pump. Should be just fine for a vacuum chuck. Watch the motor, don't know how it would act under long use. It was designed to kick on and off. Hope this helps.
Do you have issues with the compressor overheating? Doesn't it run continuously since you are creating a vacuum on the intake? Good thing to try on a little used one. Don't think I would do this with my 65 Gallon compressor, but an interesting idea.
+AnkleBiter Woodworks Should have waited until the later part of the video. You only run it for a short time. My bad!
+AnkleBiter Woodworks Thank you sir. Yeah, I am not sure if the motors could stand up to the continuous workload. Make sure your Vacuum Chamber is air tight so the pump can be shut off once your vacuum is pulled. They do not have to run contantly.
Cool. You are a bit braver than I by modifying the cylinder head like you did. Not sure I would trust myself with something like that. Great video and thanks for sharing!
+AnkleBiter Woodworks Thank you sir. I did not even know if the compressor would run. It has been out in the weather for over 3 years. Wasn't really loosing anything by trying. Besides, if I could not get it to work I could just refill the drilled holle with JB Weld and continue using it as just a compressor. Now I have a $150 compressor and a $150 vacuum pump. That makes the experiment worth the effort.
Could you compress methane?
Stephen I have lung problems, so am putting in a pretty serious dust collection system. Part of it will be the use of a Rockler #45556 dust separator. Can I just tie into this unit to get my vacuum?
Thanks for asking. I do not know for sure, but I really doubt a dust collection would have the ability to pull very strong vacuum. They are designed to flow large volumes but not necessarily strong vacuum. I hope this helps.
Ok, Well It won't take much to set it up. (And inexpensive ) It's going to be a little while, but I'll let you know how it comes out. Thanks for the reply.
When using the pump as a vacuum pump, instead of removing the tube to the tank, wouldn't it be easier to just open the tank tap to let the air escape through that route ?
Thank you Richard. Glad you enjoyed this project. Yes, opening the petcock valve is a better idea.
How many CFM's do you need to make a Vacuum system......? thanks very interesting videos, keep up the vids
Thank you sir. Thank you sir. Very good question. The CFM's are not really that important except for speeding the process. Strength and efficiency of the pump is the actual key to a vacuum system. I think this compressor is a 6.2 cfm. It works really well but I have since build a vacuum pump from a refigerator compressor and it can pull a stronger vacuum although it is much slower. I hope this helps.
I was at harbor freight and saw a Vacuum pump 2 stage 3 CFM, I'd have to buy a compressor so I thought instead of cannibalizing a compressor I buy one of those.......what's your thoughts....thanks again
Hi mate. I like the air compressor model as it performs 2 functions while taking up no extra space .
don't you have to keep pulling vacuum until bubbles go away compressor on if you close valve wont that stop air from getting removed wont it just stay were it is with valve closed just asking
+bigbear4x43 Thank you sir for your question. As long as the chamber has negative pressure on it the blank will continue to equalize by releasing the air trapped inside. This will however gradually decrease your vacuum inside the chamber and you may have to open the valve and turn on the pump to get the vacuum pressure back where you need it. I hope this helps. The pump does not have to keep pumping throughout the process.
Grate to have a shop device that do 2 things.
something i dont get, surely there has to be a valve on the intake side just the same as the exhaust, a check valve in the line to the vacuum chamber is required i believe
Good observation and you are correct. It could not work as a compressor or a vacuum pump without them. The video clearly shows and tells the valves and the differences. Check out the video at 7:13. I hope this helps clarify. Take care.
@@StephenOgle yes i got that, you blocked off the old intake and inserted a tube into the head for a new intake. that new intake requires a check valve somewhere. the compressor i intend to use has a threaded in airfilter(1/2" npt i believe), should be much simpler!
@@stevem268 Okay. However, there are no other valves built into the system. There are no check valves and none are required because the intake valves themselves will not allow the compressed air from the tank to back flow and vise versa.
If you want a great vacumn chamber look at yard sales for a pressure cooker that you should be able to find at very little cost.
+James Stanlake Excellent Idea James. Didn't think of that one. Thank you for sharing.
oil less compress the bane of my existence lol mine /dads bunt up into 2nd paint job oh i wuz mad
Yes sir, I agree. Thank you for commenting. Take care.
I have the same compressor
Is there a way to have both a compressor & vacuum pump in one, without having to reverse modifications? I was considering making a vacuum pump for veneering but already have a Ridgid TriStack www.ridgid.com/us/en/tri-stack-5-gallon-air-compressor which has three outputs. It can be used with or without the tanks. Is there any way to turn one port into a vacuum port?
+matermark Thank you sir. Your three outputs are on the discharge side of the pump therefore they will only output air. You can purchase a venturi system and use one of the discharges to pull vacuum. without having to modify anything. However, if you would like to use your compressor as a vacuum pump a port will have to be installed on the "intake" side of the pump such as what I did in the video. You can then use the pump as a compressor or vacuum pump without further modification.
+Stephen Ogle Thanks. A PIAA guy recommended a part # for a venturi type a while back but I didn't do anything--I was thinking of using a different type vacuum pump at that time and making a dedicated system for doing veneering. I guess I either start too many things at once, or I forget too many things at once!
I, saw onother fellow turn pressure cooker into vacuume tank
OH yes, I noticed.
Are you sure you don't have an engineering degree...? Great video. Keep them coming.
+Rob Kipp Thanks Rob. Just the backyard kind. LOL!
23” vac is not very good as far as vacuum goes a hand brake bleeder vacuum pump will pull a better vacuum for about $25 or a cheap harbor freight vac pump will get a 28-29” vac easily for about $80
if you won't to watch a guy stabilizer knife handles. watch jackloreknives on you tube he shows the best way to do it.
Just create a venture. Wha Zam instant vac
I don't understand why you went through all that trouble when it would have been a lot easier just to put a air conditioning pump on it
actually......with an actual vacuum pump i pull 29.9 inches and so does everybody else regardless of their elevation. but of course, thats with a piece of equipment designed to do so and on a sealed system that is also designed to do so. elevation doesnt determine your vacuum if your vessel is sealed.
+jeff leonard Thank you Jeff for your input. Vacuum is directly related to the atmospheric pressure at your location and atmospheric pressure is determined by your elevation thus the higher your elevation the less vacuum you can pull. It is a simple scientific fact.
that is not a fact. in a sealed system atmosphere has no play once you remove it from the system. i pull a vacuum for my job and i do it often. 29.9 inches of mercury everytime. and even beyond the inches of mercury......i actually pull below 100 microns regularly. the lowest ive ever gotten so far is 82 microns. and elevation is irrelevant.....people all over the world in my line of work at every elevation achieve the exact same micron readings.
jeff leonard
True.
Why not use a vacuum cleaner..
Thank you Brian. Excellent question. I have not found a shopvac that can give this amount of pressure difference. I did experiment with one when I first got interested in vacuum stabilization and casting. They just do not produce the same results as a vacuum pump.
I really knew this but it was only meant to be a joke, to be honest the only vacuum motor I have is wipers on my 59 Ford,, this system uses manifold vacuum, the problem is when going up hill the wipers stop, the way of preventing this is a vacuum pump on top of the fuel pump, I really enjoy learning physics and unseen laws, Gravity, gyroscopic & other laws of nature. thanks for your reply..
Should of just hooked up to the intake port instead of doing all that drilling & epoxying.
All you would of had to do is drill a hole through the top of the plastic case,
Then you epoxied the fan on instead of making a key or something else.
Thank you Scott. Very good points. However, the intake ports were just slots cut into the head. It was much easier to epoxy the slots and drill a port hole. As far as the fan goes. There was no key slot on the motor shaft to accept a key. the other was glued on. Lastly, It still works. Can't complain about that. Take care.
sorry but 2 minutes into video you are still talking, not showing
4.10 "If you want to know how I did this...…." How about 4 minutes ago? Appreciate your effort, but c'mon dude.
OMG was so interested in in his video but lost interest do fast one keep on topic next get to the point. Maybe make que cards next time