Pretty cool! Wish I'd known about this a while back when I passed up a brand new window A/C unit that had been damaged but had a good compressor. Great freehand lettering skills too. Thanks!
@@sixtyfiveford I watched your video several times I love it to death but if I give you my email address can you send me step by step on what I need to do to make my own vacuum pump. You know the vacuum pump they sell at the store especially Harbor freight they’re junk they only have like a one year warranty you can buy an extended warranty and after it expires the whole thing breaks down and it’s worthless. But I think yours is gonna last me a lifetime I’m just shocked I would like to get step-by-step information or mail me a copy if you can write it down I’ll pay you for it you know as long as it’s not too expensive I’m not a rich man by the way kind of a poor man that’s why I haven’t bought one lol. But what I wanted to tell you I have Multiple air conditioner window units available for me tell me what size BTU compressor I need and all the gadgets and then I can put one together and if I improve it I can show it to you what do you think do you think we got a deal boss. Oh and by the way God bless you and I pray to the Lord Jesus Christ to bring you lots of love peace and prosperity for your friends and family . ✝️✝️✝️
Late to the game, I just found this it was perfect for an idea that I was thinking about this morning for stabilizing wood!!! Perfect!!!!! Thank you!!!
How do you lubricate that compressor? It would eventually go dry after a bunch of uses since oil is supposed to circulate normally with the freon. I wonder how long it will last if you do nothing.
One other question. I have taken apart a few humidifiers and mini fridges lately and the compressors will only go to about 25" of mercury. Where do you find compressors that will go to the 29" area?
Yeah, at your elevation that shouldn't be a problem. The maximum theoretical vacuum is 29.55inhg at your elevation. I've had no trouble with any of these pulling 25k microns or 28.92inhg sea level equivalent and with a sustained pull can get around 15kmicrons/29.25inhg sea level equivalent. At 25k microns the moisture will boil out at 80F(26C) and at 15k microns you're looking at around 63F(17.75C). Of course if the compressor is very worn from a 30 year old fridge it will have blow by and have lower performance. Most of the stuff I salvage from is newer.
Im really impressed. Funny i always wonder how many hillbillys could work at JPL if given that tasks and resources to build a rocket. Really great how you calculated microns without buying a $200 dollar tool. Really great projects you come up with. Super impressed.
You are not boiling the water. The bubbles you see are from the dissolved gases in the water, mostly nitrogen and oxygen. Boiling water at room temperature isn't possible with a compressor of that type, you need a rotary vane pump. That's why they don't sell vacuum pumps with compressor motors.
Great video man. Would a compressor from a refrigerator work the same as this? I'll likely never need to do an A/C evacuation, but I may play around with a vacuum chamber at some point. I dig the freehand lettering.
I know this is a r year old comment but just in case anyone needs to know, fridge compressors work ALMOST exactly the same. Fridge compressors use a piston moving just like in your car, the difference between that and the rotary pump in the video is that the fridge pump uses check valves on both the input and the output, while the rotary only has one potentially on the output. The vacuum in a fridge compressor is limited to the amount of pressure required to overcome the mechanical force of the check valve. Since rotary compressors don't have that input check valve they are capable of reaching a stronger level of absolute vacuum. This amount is typically not of any concern or even noticable in most applications but for certain applications it can have a noticable effect.
@@lazyh-online4839 , Thanks for explaining the difference. It should be still able to air up a tire or pull a vacuum on a A/C system. If you had both which one would you use? 👍
A trip down memory lane. My granddad was a lot like you, in that he could fix just about anything. He used an old A/C compressor a lot to do HVAC repairs. Cool video!
Drain the old oil and replace it with mineral oil so it doesn't rust internally. You'll also be able to gauge how much to add in the future when you drain it if you measure the volume.
I had a bag of potato chips sitting on the seat of my truck, when I drove up into high altitude it almost popped. That works the same way with the vacuum pump.
sixtyfiveford is there a possibility that the jar will shatter? MY WIFE nearly had heart failure worrying about your hands haahah is the water real hot, or just luke warm, meaning could Candis drink her tea after getting it hot with your machine? hat thing heats water way faster than gas or electric water heaters for coffee and tea!! just wondering
The water isn't hot at all, its room temperature. The boiling point of water changes based on the pressure of the environment that its in, if you try to cook spaghetti on the top of a mountain it takes longer because the water boils at a lower temperature. It goes the other way too, car radiators have pressurized cooling systems to increase the boiling point past 212 degrees along with chemicals to raise it even more (like salt for example can do this) Boiling water with a vacuum does not make it safe to drink the same way heating it to boiling does, because it is the heat that kills the bacteria not the vacuum.
Readers, for the love of god don't misinterpret Janky's comment and use salt water as an alternative to antifreeze. Engine coolant *must* stay as electrically non-conductive as possible or you will get corrosion on all metal parts throughout the entire cooling system.
hi, I have a vacuum device ( not a vacuum chamber) and I tried to make water boiling but it doesn't work, I don't know why. I tried the experiment with a baloon in a jar and it worked. Do you have some explications? Thank's
Great work.! The only thing that lacks is an air filter unit in-between the suction outlet and the compressor. Is there is oil left in the compressor chamber?
Wonderful paint job. But I have a question for you? When a refrigerator or air conditioning pump are in service they have oil in the freon to keep the heat pump from seizing up. What keeps the Lil sucker from seizing while being used?
+Murray Lowe The majority of the oil sits down in the compressor bottom tank and everything is swimming in it. The discharge line will very very slowly emit oil so some will be lost but I will add oil randomly from time to time(a few drops) into the suction side, like you would an air powered tool. but it is pretty much self lubricated for the rest of it's life.
+sixtyfiveford Yes I knew that and yes if you keep up a regimine of oil lube, but I only mentioned it for anyone else in your members that may try to build a vac pump so they may know this information. Because it surely is a great tool to have and definitely someone else will build one.
Scrolls require oil, diaphragm are typically not used in conventional ac, typically these are neither scroll nor diaphragm, they're rotary. Almost ALL require oil and it's rare if not near impossible to find one that doesn't require oil.
Neat, was just looking into making a refrigerant recover tank and compressor for R134a or I guess possibly if I understand how to not cross contaminate like maybe purging with nitrogen, using for whatever refrigerant. Cool to see your channel show you have done before. I was thinking can use as a vacuum pump as well for testing and filling as well. Seems like the most expensive part I will have to invest is is going to be the vacuum gage.
This won't remove any moisture and leaves a fair amount of air also. May work once or twice but once the oil inside of compressor is saturated with oil it won't be up to minimum standards of what we use in the industry
they sell a device that say, you want to paint a car? any moisture has to be removed. it is a canister similar to a fuel filter. Harbor Freight sells them. you just dump out the water now and then.
I have a similar pump. Was thinking of using a compression adapter fitting on the suck side which adapts the copper line to a 1/4" NPTM. Then use a F-F coupler to thread in a 1/4" NPTM to 1/4" flare fitting adapter and then the A/C hose will thread right on. Any holes in that plan?
🤔Man I see you know a lot about compressor motors . 😳 So can you tell me just why my countertop ice machine is so loud when the compressor comes on? Lol it doing just what it's supposed to be doing but it is just so loud.
The base of the pump has a reserve of oil that recirculates and will operate for a long time without adding any. However you can add a little from time to time to replace the minor amount that gets lost with prolonged use.
you cant just suck it out this is if there in so Freon in the system and u have repaired a leak or something like that u must pull a vacuum on the system to make sure there isn't amy moisture
+tblbaby They only take them around here if the work(pay $30), go figure. I'm sure all the regulations make them pay more money than their worth to recycle and reclaim the refrigerant.
What would be the best size handy unit for a good vacc pump, i.e. refrigerator, full-size heat pump, small window ac, etc? Also how long has your unit lasted, still working? Thanks, you're an ingeniouems guy!
Working on my own, going pretty good so far but my capacitor doesn't fit in any work boxes I can find at the hardware store. It's always something isn't it? I'll have to keep looking.
9:57 I wonder if you could make eggs last longer by vacuuming out the air pocket. Or preserve them entirely in a vacuum? Methinks NASA may have tested something like that - fires up Google.
I fucking love this channel I swear to God so awesome almost you should be Canadian seems like Canadians are like you they know just about everything and her genuinely nice
Another great idea...so there is no problem spot welding the casing? I thought the heat might damage the seals. I love your entertainment...so practicle and useful
+D Jaco The outer casing is just a 1/8-3/16" steel shell. Nothing is really connected to it as you can see in this old video where I tore one apart: th-cam.com/video/1bbvHEl8WIg/w-d-xo.html
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Add a 2nd, longer copper tube with a hose to what you want to be sucked into the jar. Make sure it goes almost to the bottom. This will before sucking fluid into the jar, Never fill the jar all the way to the top, that's when the fluid will start spewing out. A side note never pull a hard vacuum on a jar I have seen them implode, also use a good quality jar as sixtyfiveford did. Be careful The cheap throw-away glass of today breaks easy.
If the oil is coming out the vacuum port then you likely have a bad compressor, oil would normally be coming out of the pressure side not the vacuum side
Just in case you weren't aware, I just want you to know you're a God. A frickin' renaissance man. Is there anything you can't do for cheap or free? You're my hero.
YEA I wanted to know the same thing, how about the oil in the compressor? R-12?, it is almost impossible to get, our 1990 Ford van has a leak and it uses R-12, we stopped paying $500 each time we needed it to be recharged.
+old64goat r-12 can be bought for around $15 a can on Ebay and is getting cheaper as so few pre 94 vehicles are around and fewer that haven't been converted. The majority of the oil sits down in the compressor bottom tank and everything is swimming in it. The discharge line will very very slowly emit oil so some will be lost but I will add oil randomly from time to time(a few drops) into the suction side, like you would an air powered tool. but it is pretty much self lubricated for the rest of it's life.
Thanks Moe for that info. I was also wondering if water got into the compressor like when you are pumping water if that will harm the compressor as you were drawing a vacuum from the water in the bottle and "some" water is bound to get into the compressor.
good video.... 10:00 if it were boiling, would you be able to hold it as you are in the vid? boil1 verb 1. (with reference to a liquid) reach or cause to reach the temperature at which it bubbles and turns to vapor. 2. subject (something) to the heat of boiling liquid, in particular -2cent was the egg eatable?
Water boils at a lower temp the higher the altitude. Pulling a vacuum simulates extreme altitude/outer-space and makes water boil/ turn to vapor at room temperature. The egg never cooked as it was sitting in room temperature water.
I just thought anout making my AC Vac Gauges... I'm sure I saw the Manifold with the gauges. I saw something about AC stuff...had a mini fridge pump. I get a lot of fridge pumps. Mahalo for putting this one up. Aloha, Chief
Dear Instructor 65 Ford, I must admit that I look forward to your online school of learning, just today I referred my brother to the relay video that you made about a Month ago as his ford Econoline blower motor stopped functioning, your videos help quite a few people out. By any chance do you do any air rifle modification/ repair videos?. As always keep up the outstanding work and one more question a while back one of your videos had a picture of a vw garden have any of those flowers been picked are they available for picking?. Have a great day.
Thanks. I don't have any videos on air rifles. The VW's are owned by a shop in Moab Utah. The place is called Tom Toms and the owners son has little interest in selling anything, and the few items he does will be very high dollar.
You're really never sucking anything besides vapor and it will get expelled. If you're using it to suck water, etc then an inline tank is a good option.
I have a compressor similar to yours. I pulled it out of a 220 volt ac unit!. Do you think I could do a setup similar to yours with it? If yes, help me out with the wiring. I have no idea how to wire it.
i made a air compressor from a pump a few years ago I actually ended up blowing a few pumps I used a 20lbs propane tank. I kind of skipped though some of your video do you use some type of lubricant in your pump? Either way i think this would be a great idea for an ac vacuum even if you only got a couple dozen uses. I think a great addition to this idea would be to make a vacuum sealer. Guts from an iron attached to two pieces of flat stock mounted to a board that would serve as the sealer and a clamp. Of course i would use ziplock bags because there cheap I would simply place the bag into the clamp leaving a couple of inches beyond the clamp put my vacuum line in seal the ziplock all the way to side until i reached the vacuum line turn my pump on, when i got the desired amount of air out i would clamp it and turn on the heating element.
+Phillip Jordan They are lubricated by themselves pretty well and shouldn't require anything for intermittent vacuum use. However, they do spit out of the pump side(very fine mist) so adding a few drops through the suction side if it is being heavily used or used for an air compressor is a must. This style is a rotary and is a little tougher than it's piston style brother.
Is the compressor you used for this video 120v or 220v. I assumed that it was a rotary, but I saw another comment that said it was a scroll compressor. Is that what you used for this project??
Nice how is the wiring I have capacitor with 3 terminals c , Herm and fan And the ac compressor have 3 wires red , black and yellow so how it'll be Iam not friendly with electricity buy I will do that and what's the wire connected to the switch which color sorry for that but want to do this for my car it's hot here and want to change ac compressor for my sister car
Aussie50 has a great video on wiring it th-cam.com/video/YKgf4_xipcQ/w-d-xo.html Just note they use 240v 50hz in Australia, where we use 120V 60HZ here in the U.S. It makes no difference on wiring, just a note.
The AC manifold gauge set handles this. It allows you to hold pressure in the item and remove/shutoff the pump. There is also a Schrader valve to bleed off vacuum.
This video sucked.......but in this case it's a good thing. Always amazed at your skills. Talk about your renewable sources. I was thinking the clean up looked nice an retro too!!! You need to start your own project museum/hack school.
+Dasdfjkl No. The same thing happened to alpine climbers when they were trying to boil potatoes at 4500 m (14 764 feet). Water boils, but it's not 100°C (212F)
Great Video! Hand lettering , Awesome! I've wanted to make a vacuum press for laminating veneer panels for a while, you recon a reefer pump would work for my application?
Great video mate! Making a Lil Sucker of my own. Though the damn thing weighs around 59 pounds. I have a question. Its an old hermetic reciprocating compressor from a 1992 Carrier A/C with 18, 600BTU ,2450W, 220V. Took it out, wired it & works good. The Hi & Lo side pressure is 350 & 150 psi. The label on the A/C said it uses R-22 so it uses mineral oil I guess unless the services guys changed to something. So, is there any way to identify the oil used in it? Since its reciprocating I guess I need to add a little oil time to time to prevent the piston from seizing right?
I don't think I've ever seen a AC tech change out the oil in a full AC system as it would be more work than it's worth. They have access to R-22. I wouldn't worry too much about the oil type as you're going to be vacuuming mainly normal air with small traces of refrigerant out of a system.
No need to add additional oil to a recripricating compessor. They have plenty of oil from the factory. But I would suggest changing the oil to vacuum pump oil. And changing it after every evacuation of over 2 tons. Every other time for small systems 1000btu to 18,000btu. And for refrigerators and freezers using under 1/2 lbs of refrigerant you could probably get away with changing the oil every 10 times or right after you repair a burnout. This is the minimum you would want to change the oil. Also do not use poe oil it will turn into acid and dissolve the motor windings.
Good Morning! I need to know what the difference Compressor Variable Speed Conventional? I need 1 compressor that I can use it to my to Vacuum pump design which will make sucking products in the form of flammable gases such as fuel tank gas etc. I wonder if the compressor model with gas "R600 a" to It would be ideal? I need 1 compressor that has a minimum of 50 psi Vacuum and output of 50 psi or greater than this to 100 psi .which would flow in liters per minute? I need one with a minimum of 100 liters minute wait response.
Any compressor from an old refrigerator or AC unit will pull a good vacuum but I don't think there are any that can produce 100 liters per minute/50psi of compressed air. You will need a small air compressor.
Probably just nitpicking but full vacuum is typically around 14.7psi vacuum. You can't have a stronger vacuum because it would already be completely empty, 50psi vacuum doesn't really exist.
sixtyfiveford is there a possibility that the jar will shatter? MY WIFE nearly had heart failure worrying about your hands haahah is the water real hot, or just luke warm, meaning could Candis drink her tea after getting it hot with your machine? hat thing heats water way faster than gas or electric water heaters for coffee and tea!! just wondering. could we out here find such a pump, would hf cheap little vac pump work, we have one of those hahah just asking hwahahwhw
Glass holds vacuum very well. The water isn't hot at all, it's cold tap water. Under a vacuum the water will boil even though the temperature is only 50-60F, but it never goes above the 50-60F.
sixtyfiveford ohhhhhhh when you said boil we thought you were saying boil like 212 boil haah, ok we understand now. we use to go camping every year for the past 25 years but 3 years ago my left leg was taken off. machinist no more! congestive heart failure started the ball rolling. anyway we were wondering have you ever done a manual wheelchair to electric convert before? we been going back looking at all your videos but have not seen one yet. tooooo lazy to go back and watch them all so you replied and we thought we might just ask. cool videos!!
I'm in the process of making a LIL SUCKER. One question: Do you have to oil the compressor to keep it from burning out? I don't want to slug it either.
Excellent video Bro... But I just wonder about compressor lubrication. How do you lubricate the internal part of the compressor? And how to know how much oil does it need? Thanks in advance.
Oil stays in the base of the unit for the most part and gets sloshed around. It will mist and loose a little over time but you can easily remedy this by adding a few drops every couple hours of use.
Hey man, your paint job is outstanding! I'm a little confused about your use of 25 microns as a measurement. 28.89 inches of mercury is what it would take to boil water at 80 degrees Fahrenheit, but that would be over 700,000umhg measure in microns. 25 microns of mercury certainly won't result in water boiling at room temperature, or exhibit any kind of noticeable effect on anything. Also, since you're running that pump outside of a closed system, I'm wondering how you keep it oiled... It definitely look very old school cool! Steve
Dude, maybe I'm slow... I'm so confused... I may be reading the chart wrong, but it kinda says what I had already surmised from my math. According to that chart, 29.918inhg would be equivalent to nearly 760,000umg, which is a little more than 25. I guess it's not all that important. At the end of the day, that pump is pulling some serious vacuum! Nearly as important, it looks fantastic! Steve
That's what I figured. Didn't know if maybe you had a new interesting trick for doing it....lol. I want to make one of these so I can use it to draw out my engine oil and tranny fluid on a regular basis. Mostly my tranny just to make it easier for fluid changes between cycling through the torque converter because Dodge didn't bother to put a drain plug on the tranny pan, idiots.....
Thanks for responding. I got it to work and on 110 electricity!! Very odd. I am going to use it as a compressor, mainly for tire inflation. Do you think I need to oil it regularly? Or It does not really need to be oiled?
You really should change out the oil in hermetic compressors if they are not being used in refrigeration setting. Compressors like these have oil in them that turn acidic when exposed to moisture in the air. At some point, these compressors will be destroyed by the oil turning acidic. If you want to ensure it will preform well and for a long time, you need to clean the existing oil out and replace it with a refrigeration-grade mineral oil.
I have an identical setup. However, my compressor as you know came from a 220 volt AC. It works but it takes 30 seconds to fully crank. When I plug it, you feel it beginning to rotate very slowly and gradually build up speed. After 30 seconds it runs lile it's supposed to. It also feels a little worm. My question is, Should I worry about the internals of the compressor because of the slow start? Or what do you think the reason is for the slow start?
@@sixtyfiveford thanks for replying. It actually does have a large capacitor in the wiring. I failed to mention that it RESTARTS immediately. It just starting it after siting for a day will take a minute of "warmup" and gradually building up speed. Once it starts, you could turn it off and back on like a charm. Even a couple of hours later it would starts right away. I am no expert but I am wondering if the large capacitor needs a minute to charge since it's getting only 110 volts while it's a 220 volt capacitor.
@@samyelalem So your running the 220v compressor off of 120V. This will cause a lot of lag and excessive heat in the unit. It will have roughly 30% of it's original power on 120v vs 220v.
+Matthew Thompson This pump came from a window AC. It is a scroll pump where refrigerators have to use shorter pumps that are generally piston pumps. Both are comparable in performance.
+John No, it was more of a gimmick as the water temperature was only around 80F, so no bad pathogens or bacteria were actually killed. I believe you need to have water get to 160F or so to kill all bacteria etc. It's just easier to tell people to boil water, than telling them to maintain a temp above 160F.
i like the design, and your lettering you painted turned out really good. the font has a 1930s look to it. especially with the red shadow you added.
+Rinoa Super-Genius Thanks. Like you, I like old stuff.
Pretty cool! Wish I'd known about this a while back when I passed up a brand new window A/C unit that had been damaged but had a good compressor. Great freehand lettering skills too. Thanks!
Thanks.
@@sixtyfiveford I watched your video several times I love it to death but if I give you my email address can you send me step by step on what I need to do to make my own vacuum pump. You know the vacuum pump they sell at the store especially Harbor freight they’re junk they only have like a one year warranty you can buy an extended warranty and after it expires the whole thing breaks down and it’s worthless. But I think yours is gonna last me a lifetime I’m just shocked I would like to get step-by-step information or mail me a copy if you can write it down I’ll pay you for it you know as long as it’s not too expensive I’m not a rich man by the way kind of a poor man that’s why I haven’t bought one lol. But what I wanted to tell you I have Multiple air conditioner window units available for me tell me what size BTU compressor I need and all the gadgets and then I can put one together and if I improve it I can show it to you what do you think do you think we got a deal boss. Oh and by the way God bless you and I pray to the Lord Jesus Christ to bring you lots of love peace and prosperity for your friends and family . ✝️✝️✝️
those vacuum units go for 5k here.. you build one for... 100? damn I like u
Late to the game, I just found this it was perfect for an idea that I was thinking about this morning for stabilizing wood!!! Perfect!!!!! Thank you!!!
How do you lubricate that compressor? It would eventually go dry after a bunch of uses since oil is supposed to circulate normally with the freon. I wonder how long it will last if you do nothing.
Very little oil circulates with the refrigerant, but a few drops in the intake every few uses will replenish it.
One other question. I have taken apart a few humidifiers and mini fridges lately and the compressors will only go to about 25" of mercury. Where do you find compressors that will go to the 29" area?
What's the elevation that you live at? That plays a huge role in the theoretical inhg you can actually pull.
334 ft above sea level. I'm an auto tech and pull 29+ on the machine at work.
Yeah, at your elevation that shouldn't be a problem. The maximum theoretical vacuum is 29.55inhg at your elevation. I've had no trouble with any of these pulling 25k microns or 28.92inhg sea level equivalent and with a sustained pull can get around 15kmicrons/29.25inhg sea level equivalent. At 25k microns the moisture will boil out at 80F(26C) and at 15k microns you're looking at around 63F(17.75C). Of course if the compressor is very worn from a 30 year old fridge it will have blow by and have lower performance. Most of the stuff I salvage from is newer.
Im really impressed. Funny i always wonder how many hillbillys could work at JPL if given that tasks and resources to build a rocket. Really great how you calculated microns without buying a $200 dollar tool. Really great projects you come up with. Super impressed.
You are not boiling the water. The bubbles you see are from the dissolved gases in the water, mostly nitrogen and oxygen. Boiling water at room temperature isn't possible with a compressor of that type, you need a rotary vane pump. That's why they don't sell vacuum pumps with compressor motors.
How many minutes can one used rotary compressor as vacuum
@@kpeglodabrowski7679 as many minutes as it takes for it to overheat
Great video man. Would a compressor from a refrigerator work the same as this? I'll likely never need to do an A/C evacuation, but I may play around with a vacuum chamber at some point. I dig the freehand lettering.
+Dustin Rogers Yep, a compressor out of a fridge will work the same. Thanks man.
I know this is a r year old comment but just in case anyone needs to know, fridge compressors work ALMOST exactly the same. Fridge compressors use a piston moving just like in your car, the difference between that and the rotary pump in the video is that the fridge pump uses check valves on both the input and the output, while the rotary only has one potentially on the output. The vacuum in a fridge compressor is limited to the amount of pressure required to overcome the mechanical force of the check valve. Since rotary compressors don't have that input check valve they are capable of reaching a stronger level of absolute vacuum. This amount is typically not of any concern or even noticable in most applications but for certain applications it can have a noticable effect.
@@lazyh-online4839 , Thanks for explaining the difference. It should be still able to air up a tire or pull a vacuum on a A/C system. If you had both which one would you use? 👍
A trip down memory lane. My granddad was a lot like you, in that he could fix just about anything. He used an old A/C compressor a lot to do HVAC repairs.
Cool video!
+helidodge It's a neat trick. Some the early professionally sold vacuum pumps were obvious retrofitted compressor motors.
You are saying 25 microns, whereas it is 25000 microns... pls correct
Good video otherwise
Drain the old oil and replace it with mineral oil so it doesn't rust internally. You'll also be able to gauge how much to add in the future when you drain it if you measure the volume.
I had a bag of potato chips sitting on the seat of my truck, when I drove up into high altitude it almost popped. That works the same way with the vacuum pump.
Well that was pretty cool! Great job and awesome painting skills!
+cubbeezx Thanks.. Just playing around.
That is pretty sharp... Really cool penmanship too!
+Curiosity Thanks. You gotta practice to get good.
sixtyfiveford is there a possibility that the jar will shatter? MY WIFE nearly had heart failure worrying about your hands haahah is the water real hot, or just luke warm, meaning could Candis drink her tea after getting it hot with your machine? hat thing heats water way faster than gas or electric water heaters for coffee and tea!! just wondering
The water isn't hot at all, its room temperature. The boiling point of water changes based on the pressure of the environment that its in, if you try to cook spaghetti on the top of a mountain it takes longer because the water boils at a lower temperature. It goes the other way too, car radiators have pressurized cooling systems to increase the boiling point past 212 degrees along with chemicals to raise it even more (like salt for example can do this)
Boiling water with a vacuum does not make it safe to drink the same way heating it to boiling does, because it is the heat that kills the bacteria not the vacuum.
Readers, for the love of god don't misinterpret Janky's comment and use salt water as an alternative to antifreeze. Engine coolant *must* stay as electrically non-conductive as possible or you will get corrosion on all metal parts throughout the entire cooling system.
hi, I have a vacuum device ( not a vacuum chamber) and I tried to make water boiling but it doesn't work, I don't know why. I tried the experiment with a baloon in a jar and it worked.
Do you have some explications? Thank's
Here is a chart that shows the water temp required compared to the vacuum pump. www.jbind.com/pdf/Cross-Reference-of-Boiling-Temps.pdf
Great work.! The only thing that lacks is an air filter unit in-between the suction outlet and the compressor. Is there is oil left in the compressor chamber?
Wonderful paint job. But I have a question for you? When a refrigerator or air conditioning pump are in service they have oil in the freon to keep the heat pump from seizing up. What keeps the Lil sucker from seizing while being used?
+Murray Lowe The majority of the oil sits down in the compressor bottom tank and everything is swimming in it. The discharge line will very very slowly emit oil so some will be lost but I will add oil randomly from time to time(a few drops) into the suction side, like you would an air powered tool. but it is pretty much self lubricated for the rest of it's life.
+sixtyfiveford Yes I knew that and yes if you keep up a regimine of oil lube, but I only mentioned it for anyone else in your members that may try to build a vac pump so they may know this information. Because it surely is a great tool to have and definitely someone else will build one.
Scroll and diaphragm compressors are dry compressors and do not require lubrication for vacuum use.
Scrolls require oil, diaphragm are typically not used in conventional ac, typically these are neither scroll nor diaphragm, they're rotary. Almost ALL require oil and it's rare if not near impossible to find one that doesn't require oil.
Idea for a project. A cheap diaphragm pump that could pump high pressure liquid and gas. Like NOS for example. Really admire your skills.
Neat, was just looking into making a refrigerant recover tank and compressor for R134a or I guess possibly if I understand how to not cross contaminate like maybe purging with nitrogen, using for whatever refrigerant. Cool to see your channel show you have done before. I was thinking can use as a vacuum pump as well for testing and filling as well. Seems like the most expensive part I will have to invest is is going to be the vacuum gage.
Kind of scary reading, when I did the Prius AC Compressor, how nasty the ND14 oil is.
This won't remove any moisture and leaves a fair amount of air also. May work once or twice but once the oil inside of compressor is saturated with oil it won't be up to minimum standards of what we use in the industry
put a dryer on the input. problem solved.
matt gruber a dryer? Does that only work with small amount of moisture? What exactly is that?
they sell a device that say, you want to paint a car? any moisture has to be removed. it is a canister similar to a fuel filter. Harbor Freight sells them.
you just dump out the water now and then.
I have a similar pump. Was thinking of using a compression adapter fitting on the suck side which adapts the copper line to a 1/4" NPTM. Then use a F-F coupler to thread in a 1/4" NPTM to 1/4" flare fitting adapter and then the A/C hose will thread right on. Any holes in that plan?
Sounds 👍
Can a trashed split system compressor be used similar way to get good vacuum and or psi pressure?
Yes, as long as the compressor isn't the reason it was thrown out.
🤔Man I see you know a lot about compressor motors . 😳 So can you tell me just why my countertop ice machine is so loud when the compressor comes on? Lol it doing just what it's supposed to be doing but it is just so loud.
A cushioning spring is likely broken or out of place. There is no fix.
I’m 99% sure that is a type of rotary spring compressor
So is this thing not bonded? Like, if there was an internal short wouldn't the case be electrified and not trip the breaker?
The case is always externally grounded.
CRACK THE EGG!!!!!!! lol
Very interesting, could we run it for so long without oil, I mean it's necessary lubricate the motor coil in a closed system.
The base of the pump has a reserve of oil that recirculates and will operate for a long time without adding any. However you can add a little from time to time to replace the minor amount that gets lost with prolonged use.
If you suck freon out of an AC system where does it go??
you cant just suck it out this is if there in so Freon in the system and u have repaired a leak or something like that u must pull a vacuum on the system to make sure there isn't amy moisture
sweet thinger, just got rid of 2 old fridges, the recycler won't even pay for em anymore
+tblbaby They only take them around here if the work(pay $30), go figure. I'm sure all the regulations make them pay more money than their worth to recycle and reclaim the refrigerant.
What would be the best size handy unit for a good vacc pump, i.e. refrigerator, full-size heat pump, small window ac, etc? Also how long has your unit lasted, still working? Thanks, you're an ingeniouems guy!
Working on my own, going pretty good so far but my capacitor doesn't fit in any work boxes I can find at the hardware store. It's always something isn't it? I'll have to keep looking.
9:57 I wonder if you could make eggs last longer by vacuuming out the air pocket. Or preserve them entirely in a vacuum? Methinks NASA may have tested something like that - fires up Google.
I fucking love this channel I swear to God so awesome almost you should be Canadian seems like Canadians are like you they know just about everything and her genuinely nice
Great for pumping tires
Another great idea...so there is no problem spot welding the casing? I thought the heat might damage the seals. I love your entertainment...so practicle and useful
+D Jaco The outer casing is just a 1/8-3/16" steel shell. Nothing is really connected to it as you can see in this old video where I tore one apart: th-cam.com/video/1bbvHEl8WIg/w-d-xo.html
I was thinking the same, like if you don't have a welder you could make a platform and back out of wood to neatly mount it all together.
Was that compressor from a small window unit? What tonage or BTU unit?
It was a portable AC unit people wheel around there homes. It was around 10k BTU
@@sixtyfiveford Woot woot, thanks for the reply and Awesome video.
Sucking Egg's 😂😂😂😂😂 you remind me something 😂😂😂 🍌 should be with Eggs Also Bro 😂😂😂
Thank you for the very informative video
Best wishes from Philippines ✌️😎
Thanks.
How can you keep the oil inside from spewing out into your vacuum chamber whenc you let the pressure off
Add a 2nd, longer copper tube with a hose to what you want to be sucked into the jar. Make sure it goes almost to the bottom. This will before sucking fluid into the jar, Never fill the jar all the way to the top, that's when the fluid will start spewing out. A side note never pull a hard vacuum on a jar I have seen them implode, also use a good quality jar as sixtyfiveford did. Be careful The cheap throw-away glass of today breaks easy.
If the oil is coming out the vacuum port then you likely have a bad compressor, oil would normally be coming out of the pressure side not the vacuum side
Parabéns pelo projeto, ficou top! Será que seria capaz de fazer vacuo em um sistema de ar condicionado?
Just in case you weren't aware, I just want you to know you're a God. A frickin' renaissance man. Is there anything you can't do for cheap or free? You're my hero.
Good video...now to find a pump to try this on.....:)
Thanks, I'm glad you liked it.
On my, i add a fitting on the discharge side and brazed both instead of using solder, and that's what I use for recovery and evacuate
YEA I wanted to know the same thing, how about the oil in the compressor?
R-12?, it is almost impossible to get, our 1990 Ford van has a leak and it uses R-12, we stopped paying $500 each time we needed it to be recharged.
+old64goat r-12 can be bought for around $15 a can on Ebay and is getting cheaper as so few pre 94 vehicles are around and fewer that haven't been converted.
The majority of the oil sits down in the compressor bottom tank and everything is swimming in it. The discharge line will very very slowly emit oil so some will be lost but I will add oil randomly from time to time(a few drops) into the suction side, like you would an air powered tool. but it is pretty much self lubricated for the rest of it's life.
Thanks Moe for that info.
I was also wondering if water got into the compressor like when you are pumping water if that will harm the compressor as you were drawing a vacuum from the water in the bottle and "some" water is bound to get into the compressor.
It will spit any water out the outlet tube. I allow it to run for a while to make sure it is dry as possible before putting it away.
Boiling point of water at 80F is at 25,000 microns.
Does the body of the cap get bonded too?
No. There is no need as it is covered with a insulated box.
would the compressors in window ac units create enough vacuum to boil water?
Yes.
Hey thanks it worked. I'm dissecting mainly water and hopefully the vapors dont mess it up. I plan to put compressor oil before every use.
Where did you get the pump from ? I’m had try to get it’s for year.
did you say "blow some stuff up"?
I'm really impressed with your lettering!
Wow water starts boiling when you take the pressure away from the container?? Wow looks like magic!
Wow I wish I could paint that good...
sixtyfiveford Hello....would one of these be powerful enough to use as an exposure unit vacuum
👍👍Genius my friend!! Thank you for sharing your knowledge
Compressor is 110v or 240v?
This was from a 120v Air Conditioner.
you silly goose
good video....
10:00 if it were boiling, would you be able to hold it as you are in the vid?
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(with reference to a liquid) reach or cause to reach the temperature at which it bubbles and turns to vapor.
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subject (something) to the heat of boiling liquid, in particular
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was the egg eatable?
Water boils at a lower temp the higher the altitude. Pulling a vacuum simulates extreme altitude/outer-space and makes water boil/ turn to vapor at room temperature. The egg never cooked as it was sitting in room temperature water.
I just thought anout making my AC Vac Gauges... I'm sure I saw the Manifold with the gauges. I saw something about AC stuff...had a mini fridge pump. I get a lot of fridge pumps. Mahalo for putting this one up.
Aloha, Chief
Thanks, I'm glad you liked it.
Dear Instructor 65 Ford, I must admit that I look forward to your online school of learning, just today I referred my brother to the relay video that you made about a Month ago as his ford Econoline blower motor stopped functioning, your videos help quite a few people out. By any chance do you do any air rifle modification/ repair videos?. As always keep up the outstanding work and one more question a while back one of your videos had a picture of a vw garden have any of those flowers been picked are they available for picking?. Have a great day.
Thanks. I don't have any videos on air rifles. The VW's are owned by a shop in Moab Utah. The place is called Tom Toms and the owners son has little interest in selling anything, and the few items he does will be very high dollar.
If you are using this to clean things then you will need a separator tank so you are not loading the compressor unit full of junk.
You're really never sucking anything besides vapor and it will get expelled. If you're using it to suck water, etc then an inline tank is a good option.
I have a compressor similar to yours. I pulled it out of a 220 volt ac unit!. Do you think I could do a setup similar to yours with it? If yes, help me out with the wiring. I have no idea how to wire it.
220 is about the same but you have 2 hots and one neutral. There are quite a few diagram online.
i made a air compressor from a pump a few years ago I actually ended up blowing a few pumps I used a 20lbs propane tank. I kind of skipped though some of your video do you use some type of lubricant in your pump? Either way i think this would be a great idea for an ac vacuum even if you only got a couple dozen uses.
I think a great addition to this idea would be to make a vacuum sealer. Guts from an iron attached to two pieces of flat stock mounted to a board that would serve as the sealer and a clamp. Of course i would use ziplock bags because there cheap I would simply place the bag into the clamp leaving a couple of inches beyond the clamp put my vacuum line in seal the ziplock all the way to side until i reached the vacuum line turn my pump on, when i got the desired amount of air out i would clamp it and turn on the heating element.
+Phillip Jordan They are lubricated by themselves pretty well and shouldn't require anything for intermittent vacuum use. However, they do spit out of the pump side(very fine mist) so adding a few drops through the suction side if it is being heavily used or used for an air compressor is a must. This style is a rotary and is a little tougher than it's piston style brother.
Is the compressor you used for this video 120v or 220v. I assumed that it was a rotary, but I saw another comment that said it was a scroll compressor. Is that what you used for this project??
This was a 120v scroll compressor.
Nice how is the wiring I have capacitor with 3 terminals c , Herm and fan
And the ac compressor have 3 wires red , black and yellow so how it'll be Iam not friendly with electricity buy I will do that and what's the wire connected to the switch which color sorry for that but want to do this for my car it's hot here and want to change ac compressor for my sister car
Aussie50 has a great video on wiring it th-cam.com/video/YKgf4_xipcQ/w-d-xo.html Just note they use 240v 50hz in Australia, where we use 120V 60HZ here in the U.S. It makes no difference on wiring, just a note.
sixtyfiveford thank you
It is dangareous its explode
Might I suggest putting a shut off valve to hold the pressure so you can turn the pump off and also a release valve to let the vacuum off
The AC manifold gauge set handles this. It allows you to hold pressure in the item and remove/shutoff the pump. There is also a Schrader valve to bleed off vacuum.
@@sixtyfiveford Sweet. Looking for one now
I have a question, what can I add/upgrade to this compressor vacuum pump other than being funtion as a vacuum pump
Mat Kentang You can use the discharge side to make it into a compressor
This video sucked.......but in this case it's a good thing. Always amazed at your skills. Talk about your renewable sources. I was thinking the clean up looked nice an retro too!!! You need to start your own project museum/hack school.
+RUHDD4HVN Thanks man.
sixtyfiveford You Rock Once Again!!
I have to find one of those for myself. That was awesome. The egg didn't actually cook did it?
+Dasdfjkl No. The same thing happened to alpine climbers when they were trying to boil potatoes at 4500 m
(14 764 feet). Water boils, but it's not 100°C (212F)
+acousticguitarpeter Good example.
Great Video! Hand lettering , Awesome! I've wanted to make a vacuum press for laminating veneer panels for a while, you recon a reefer pump would work for my application?
+john tuomala They do work great for that. I ran across a few forums where people had used them for vacuum forming and similar applications.
Another good build. Gives me something to think about. Waiting to see what's next.
+cabinmadness1 Thanks.
That was a great demonstration of the water boiling as you suck out the air.
Thanks, I'm glad you liked it.
out of interest, could you use this in a home made freeze drier?? i dont' know enough about either of them.
The water removed would start to contaminate the oil and I don't think it would last long.
Great video mate! Making a Lil Sucker of my own. Though the damn thing weighs around 59 pounds. I have a question. Its an old hermetic reciprocating compressor from a 1992 Carrier A/C with 18, 600BTU ,2450W, 220V. Took it out, wired it & works good. The Hi & Lo side pressure is 350 & 150 psi. The label on the A/C said it uses R-22 so it uses mineral oil I guess unless the services guys changed to something. So, is there any way to identify the oil used in it? Since its reciprocating I guess I need to add a little oil time to time to prevent the piston from seizing right?
I don't think I've ever seen a AC tech change out the oil in a full AC system as it would be more work than it's worth. They have access to R-22. I wouldn't worry too much about the oil type as you're going to be vacuuming mainly normal air with small traces of refrigerant out of a system.
No need to add additional oil to a recripricating compessor. They have plenty of oil from the factory. But I would suggest changing the oil to vacuum pump oil. And changing it after every evacuation of over 2 tons. Every other time for small systems 1000btu to 18,000btu. And for refrigerators and freezers using under 1/2 lbs of refrigerant you could probably get away with changing the oil every 10 times or right after you repair a burnout. This is the minimum you would want to change the oil. Also do not use poe oil it will turn into acid and dissolve the motor windings.
Good Morning!
I need to know what the difference Compressor Variable Speed Conventional?
I need 1 compressor that I can use it to my to Vacuum pump design which will make sucking products in the form of flammable gases such as fuel tank gas etc. I wonder if the compressor model with gas "R600 a" to It would be ideal?
I need 1 compressor that has a minimum of 50 psi Vacuum and output of 50 psi or greater than this to 100 psi .which would flow in liters per minute? I need one with a minimum of 100 liters minute wait response.
Any compressor from an old refrigerator or AC unit will pull a good vacuum but I don't think there are any that can produce 100 liters per minute/50psi of compressed air. You will need a small air compressor.
Probably just nitpicking but full vacuum is typically around 14.7psi vacuum. You can't have a stronger vacuum because it would already be completely empty, 50psi vacuum doesn't really exist.
sixtyfiveford is there a possibility that the jar will shatter? MY WIFE nearly had heart failure worrying about your hands haahah is the water real hot, or just luke warm, meaning could Candis drink her tea after getting it hot with your machine? hat thing heats water way faster than gas or electric water heaters for coffee and tea!! just wondering. could we out here find such a pump, would hf cheap little vac pump work, we have one of those hahah just asking hwahahwhw
Glass holds vacuum very well. The water isn't hot at all, it's cold tap water. Under a vacuum the water will boil even though the temperature is only 50-60F, but it never goes above the 50-60F.
sixtyfiveford ohhhhhhh when you said boil we thought you were saying boil like 212 boil haah, ok we understand now. we use to go camping every year for the past 25 years but 3 years ago my left leg was taken off. machinist no more! congestive heart failure started the ball rolling. anyway we were wondering have you ever done a manual wheelchair to electric convert before? we been going back looking at all your videos but have not seen one yet. tooooo lazy to go back and watch them all so you replied and we thought we might just ask. cool videos!!
Did you have to recover any refrigerant before you took it out to make the Lil sucker?
Legally yes.
Very cool, next A/C unit I see on the side of the road I will have to try this.
+MidwestMotoRider They're fun to play with...
I'm in the process of making a LIL SUCKER.
One question: Do you have to oil the compressor to keep it from burning out? I don't want to slug it either.
The oil pretty much stays for the life of the unit. It may exhaust a little over time, which you can just add more into the suction side.
Most vacuum pump manufacturer's say to replace oil after every vacuum. Dirty oil will hold contaminents.
Excellent video Bro... But I just wonder about compressor lubrication. How do you lubricate the internal part of the compressor? And how to know how much oil does it need? Thanks in advance.
Oil stays in the base of the unit for the most part and gets sloshed around. It will mist and loose a little over time but you can easily remedy this by adding a few drops every couple hours of use.
Thank you, Bro. Have a nice day.
Hey man, your paint job is outstanding!
I'm a little confused about your use of 25 microns as a measurement. 28.89 inches of mercury is what it would take to boil water at 80 degrees Fahrenheit, but that would be over 700,000umhg measure in microns. 25 microns of mercury certainly won't result in water boiling at room temperature, or exhibit any kind of noticeable effect on anything.
Also, since you're running that pump outside of a closed system, I'm wondering how you keep it oiled...
It definitely look very old school cool!
Steve
This is a chart the shows vacuum pump comparisons www.nandor.com/conversiontable.stm
25 Microns is approx 29.918inhg
Dude, maybe I'm slow... I'm so confused... I may be reading the chart wrong, but it kinda says what I had already surmised from my math. According to that chart, 29.918inhg would be equivalent to nearly 760,000umg, which is a little more than 25. I guess it's not all that important. At the end of the day, that pump is pulling some serious vacuum! Nearly as important, it looks fantastic!
Steve
I freaking loved this video!! Thanks for posting it!!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Hve you lost weight mate? you look light youve been working out
+metalmaniacmat Yeah, I have...
Can I have this pump run off car battery...
No. These motors won't accept a DC power source.
How would you adapt this to suck fluid? I was thinking just a simple canister connected between the draw line and a brake line?
That's exactly how I would do it.
That's what I figured. Didn't know if maybe you had a new interesting trick for doing it....lol. I want to make one of these so I can use it to draw out my engine oil and tranny fluid on a regular basis. Mostly my tranny just to make it easier for fluid changes between cycling through the torque converter because Dodge didn't bother to put a drain plug on the tranny pan, idiots.....
Thanks for responding. I got it to work and on 110 electricity!! Very odd. I am going to use it as a compressor, mainly for tire inflation. Do you think I need to oil it regularly? Or It does not really need to be oiled?
They rarely need addition of oil. 220 motors will run off 110 but only perform at about 1/4 there 220 power.
You really should change out the oil in hermetic compressors if they are not being used in refrigeration setting. Compressors like these have oil in them that turn acidic when exposed to moisture in the air. At some point, these compressors will be destroyed by the oil turning acidic. If you want to ensure it will preform well and for a long time, you need to clean the existing oil out and replace it with a refrigeration-grade mineral oil.
Cool
+wtbm123 Thanks man
I have an identical setup. However, my compressor as you know came from a 220 volt AC. It works but it takes 30 seconds to fully crank. When I plug it, you feel it beginning to rotate very slowly and gradually build up speed. After 30 seconds it runs lile it's supposed to. It also feels a little worm. My question is,
Should I worry about the internals of the compressor because of the slow start? Or what do you think the reason is for the slow start?
A large unit generally has a start and run capacitor wired onto it. I'm curious if this is just missing from your wiring.
@@sixtyfiveford thanks for replying. It actually does have a large capacitor in the wiring. I failed to mention that it RESTARTS immediately. It just starting it after siting for a day will take a minute of "warmup" and gradually building up speed. Once it starts, you could turn it off and back on like a charm. Even a couple of hours later it would starts right away. I am no expert but I am wondering if the large capacitor needs a minute to charge since it's getting only 110 volts while it's a 220 volt capacitor.
@@samyelalem So your running the 220v compressor off of 120V. This will cause a lot of lag and excessive heat in the unit. It will have roughly 30% of it's original power on 120v vs 220v.
how the hell are you able to free hand so well??? you are an artist mate
+don trump Thanks, just having fun playing around in my garage.
I wanted to see a couple marshmallows get bigger
+Jason Curry Yeah, that's always a fun one.
Looks like a good sucker to me! Another great one.
+Bill Potter haha. Thanks Bill.
That was fun.
how would the pump from a window a/c compare?
+Matthew Thompson This pump came from a window AC. It is a scroll pump where refrigerators have to use shorter pumps that are generally piston pumps. Both are comparable in performance.
Do you have to worry about it overheating or anything?
They get super hot when in a fridge/ac unit. I've never got them close to as hot as I've seen in those, so I think it's OK.
Doesn't the ac gas ran away when you cut the copper when you cut it?
Yes.
@@sixtyfiveford Doesn't dangerous?
So would this be a good way to boil house water if the pump was hooked to solar panels. ?
+John No, it was more of a gimmick as the water temperature was only around 80F, so no bad pathogens or bacteria were actually killed. I believe you need to have water get to 160F or so to kill all bacteria etc. It's just easier to tell people to boil water, than telling them to maintain a temp above 160F.
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Good luck eating that boiled egg
Excellent bro,im on the look out for an old fridge now lol
+Gaz doitall Thanks
How much would you charge to ship me one of those?
I want to use it as a recovery machine.
You can get it for free from scrap parts.
What about lubrication is that an issue?
Nevermind I found the answer below.
Dam that paint work looks awesome even the tool box fuel can come out great You got some skills man Great job
+one4stevo Thanks. I need to get in the practice I can.