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I hope this video is helpful. If you have any questions feel free to let me know in the comments and I'll do my best to reply :). Time codes and links are located in the description.
🤓Correction: My Camera was auto-scaling down to 1080p from 4k and not the ATEM. I had it set to Automatic. mode. Thanks for the heads up folks!
So, I was looking for something to use as a monitor and mixer for live streaming, but what I'm also looking for is something that can use audio from a mixer, or audio from a mono or stereo TRRS mic setup, like a Picomic receiver, my only problem is, I can't find much besides a dedicated camera that supports stereo TRRS mics, in dual channel mode... The Picomic setup I have seen on youtube looks very nice, but unless I'm using an audio input only jack, some of the usefulness would be moot on something like say a cellphone, unless I was using the audio from both mic's mixed together on both channels, as a cellphone only supports a mono mic... Aside from getting an audio mixer or other more expensive, way of doing things, is there another way of recording stereo audio with only a cellphone to record with??? That yolobox looks neat, and aside from the audio needs, would make everything so much easier than I normally watch on youtube... but unless it's very cheap, I honestly couldn't justify buying something like that, at least, not at the moment, although I do hope to do live streaming eventually...
To be honest, I don't have anything right now, except for my cell phone and a tripod mount, but I'm not doing live streaming yet... I'm just looking for stuff to use in the future, if I decide to do the whole youtube thing...
**Edit** the phone is a pixel 4a, so I can't use HDMI on it,so I'd be stuck with live streaming that directly from the phone, but specifically, im looking for something that allows me to do stereo audio recording for the cell phone, but unfortunately, the cellphone interface doesn't make full use of TRRS only the headset variant, unlike a dedicated camera...
I'd like to be clear about one thing, and that's the fact that I generally don't have the space to do a full 16 or 24 channel audio mixer, like my church does, and thankfully, we are getting an upgrade soon, which as the novice sound engineer, is a nightmare right now, because the current mixer was built in around 1994, and is going to pot... We will also, from what I understand, be adding live streaming functionality, which will be a bit to get used to, because like I said, I don't have live streaming experience yet
@@sonyajones a video camera with HDMI out is going to be one of the things I look at purchasing, if and/or when I decide to go to something that CAN do stereo recording out of the box... I currently quite like the pixel 4a video... It's only the crippled TRRS support that I hate
As for desktop, yes I do... But only cell phone internet, and I'm in the boonies, so... "Can you hear me now", anyone???
My before you ask it's a custom AMD 3900x system with a 5700xt graphics card... Little on the cheap side of graphics, but I wanted lots of cores, and an all AMD rig, without the product issues I would have had if I waited for the new stuff
I think the reason there is no power button is so you don't accidently turn your device off mid stream!
good review, fyi, feelworld did release a new firmware that does fix some of the issues you encountered. the firmware makes it L2 instead L1.
Can you combine the Atem Mini and yolobox? I think that will solve the limited HDMI input of the yolobox!
How can you connect rodecaster pro and receive phone calls during the live stream?
I've been pondering the Blackmagic Atem Mini Pro for a couple weeks and wondering about options and alternatives. Your video has pretty much answered all of my questions and given me enough comparison to let me make my decision. Great video! You saved me a lot of research hassle.
Hi 👋 and which one did you get ?.
@@7MOONS2023 Atem
So glad I found you. Getting ready for live streaming and this was Soooo useful. Thank you!
Glad it was helpful!
YoloBox's USB input can simply be utilized as the 3rd camera source, with a $10 dollar cheap converter. 3 HDMI Input is more than enough for most of my customer cases.
Another fantastic video. It would be great to have a session on: "The best set up if you are pre-recording lessons using slides (PPT or KN), or if you are interviewing and recording guests via Zoom, versus one person live streaming. The gear choices might be different huh?
Great video Shane! I bought YoloBox for months and YoloBox has helped my workflow tremendously! Basically ATEM Mini + Webcaster X2 + Monitor + OBS/Computer + Restream all in one. Look for more deep dive videos!
Thank you! I love my Yolobox, and this good combination with Atem mini. Yes. You are Rock!
I got two minis and I don´t use audio from the cams I use a mixer and real mics and if you do that and use hdmi out as your streaming port you wont get no delay and probably the same goes for that other unit you showed.
Wow, I literally searched for this, and you had JUST put out a video on it. Fate mate - best I subscribe hey
About the power buttons. I think the YoloBox is the only one that you would have to turn off manually is because it runs stand-alone. The other two switchers are generally integrated into a bigger recording setup. For a studio it is usefull to turn on one switch of a powerstrip and have all your devices start up. Having a powerbutton or power switch would hinder the workflow in that situation.
Great job as always, Shane, though you didn't mention the cost difference. (YoloBox is significantly more expensive) Quick question: couldn't you use a cheap HDMI switcher into one (or even both) of the inputs of the YoloBox to add some more HDMI sources? Since you're likely only streaming one source at a time, you could switch sources on the cheap switcher while you're streaming from the other input, then switch back again and you'd have another angle. Just a thought.
So I actually have a question: why would I choose one of these products (or, probably better in my case, the newer atem mini extreme) over a software based solution in your opinion?
A couple of weeks ago I streamed a 5 cameras live concert (1h30m) to facebook, with digitally zoomed scenes for different looks, up to 3 cameras split screen, overlay graphics, pre recorded video ads, i even sharpened the image coming out of an older canon dslr and added some color correction to better match the other cameras...
I used obs and a 2012 macmini i7 quad wirh 16GB of ram, 2 internal drives (256GB ssd + 1TB hdd). For the video inputs i used inexpensive hdmi to usb chinese cards (about 18$ each on amazon) and a usb3 hub for a couple of extra usbs. The mini was definitely too hot but didn’t flinch, I even recorded the streaming on the internal HDD. Now I replaced the thermal paste and added an external fan (ran a few tests and with this little mod i went from 104C to 70C with 98% constant cpu usage) I basically spent only 150$ ish... 100ish for the hdmi cards 30ish for the fan and 10ish for the thermal paste.
It is definitely loud now with the fans on.. but other than noise... what’s the advantage of the atem mini? Why not buy an elgato streamdeck for example if i just wanna add physical buttons?
There’s literally NOBODY talking about this on the internet... i can’t be the only one confused about this can i?
I know this old but I feel the switchers will handle the load better than the PC/Mac. Meaning your processor shouldn't need to run at 98% to handle the 1 input coming in to something like obs. Good job on piecing your rig together like that.
@@MrSupadave13 haha thabks man. It was an old question… i don’t have that rig anymore. I’m using an m1 mac mini and an elgatp streamdeck and I’m super happy with it 😉
This video is very informative. Thank you! I wish I had this comparison a few months ago when setting up my wife's remote piano lesson setup. I settled on the ATEM Mini, which has been working very well for her use case teaching kids piano over Zoom. Easy to use and trouble-free. I'm glad I passed on the LivePro since we need synced and balanced audio on a live stream.
I agree on your point about missing power buttons. What the heck? I ended up buying an $11 remote power switch from Amazon that has an outlet at the wall socket and a button at the end of a cord that I put next to the ATEM Mini. It works, but looks a bit weird.
I have the Atem Mini and as we previously messaged/commented on in another video, we both suffer from the dropped frame issue it has when using it as a webcam.
I also have the YoloLiv, my main issue with it is that the streamed audio received by FaceBook & TH-cam is only 96k instead of the required 128k..
The Yolobox is pretty much perfect for anyone who doesn't need more than 2 HDMI inputs...great review sir!
Exactly!
I just wish there's a budget system that will allow balance audio in
Thank God for this review! I need tha atem features but was about to buy the ifeel
What would you recommend for an artist/musician doing their own livestream concerts in various locations? Yolobox seems simple, elegant, useful. I'm looking for a setup in which I (1) run my audio through Pro Tools (or Ableton) and (2) use two cameras to switch between a wide shot and a close shot on my hands/keyboard WITHOUT having to sync up in post. Is this possible I wonder? Thanks for the great video!
So, now that the LivePro has fixed their audio issue, do you recommend it above the others? Or is it equal?
Fabulous review - thanks for the comparison but at £949, the Yolobox is significantly more than three times the cost of the Atem Mini in the UK which is only £285. The Live Pro is typically £100 more than the Atem. You could buy an Atem and an Atomos Ninja for under the price of the Yolo.
I have to fully agree with this point. You’re comparing products but ignoring the price which is so important. In addition there’s a ton of software which controls and enhances the BlackMagic Atems. For example the Atem Pro with multi view is still significantly cheaper than the Yolobox. Undoubtedly the Yolo with an LTE router/modem is a great mobile streaming solution but then you’re adding even more cost.
@@ThisOldManOfTheSea Not actually expensive for everything it can do: encoding, switching, monitoring, recording, that doesn’t require a
Computer or an iPad or a monitor, and neither learning curve nor professional production crew! Plus simultaneously streaming to 3 platforms for free. It basically equals to ATEM Mini + Webcaster X2 + Monitor + restream, like the other commentor has shared.
Not actually expensive for everything it can do: encoding, switching, monitoring, recording, that doesn’t require a
Computer or an iPad or a monitor, and neither learning curve nor professional production crew! Plus simultaneously streaming to 3 platforms for free. It basically equals to ATEM Mini + Webcaster X2 + Monitor + restream, like the other commentor has shared.
@@frankfengzhu That's not really the point though is it? We're not saying it isn't worth the money - we're saying it's isn't really comparable with the other two devices which compare well against each other.
Great review. I'm looking for a switcher and had not seen the YoLo Live until now, just wish it did four cameras and SDI, but wow SIM and SD card onboard and that big screen, whats not to love.. I would be interested in your opinion on the AVMATRIX MINI as I'm seriously thinking about getting one.
Enjoyed your comparison video! Have you noticed that B&H has discontinued the YoloBox on their web site? Have you any ideal why they discontinued it? I need to see a video on using the simm card feature. i need this method to livestream bass fishing tournaments from a remote location. Thanks for your consideration.
So, if you run your audio through a professional audio-interface, you will be fine with the LivePro? Can you still live-stream with the LivePro-L1 if you implement an audio-interface?
Great video, and I've been using the yolobox for a while now. Question though. I would like to have a 4th camera option and remain mobile as I only stream events and the yolobox allows me to keep the steam going as I move around venues or drive to the burial site during a funeral. It looks like if I could somehow attach the livepro to my tripod and power it, I would be able to run it into the yb and still be mobile. Do you think that is possible? Would I need another screen or would the provided screen be enough to see what I'm switching too?
I think you should put an overlay edit on
this video about the 4k issue. I see in your comments that you admitted it was your camera down converting, but not all cameras will even do that. For example none of the stills oriented Panasonic bodies will do this, both the G95 and the top of the line G9 will output 4k only if it is recording 4k internally. Only the GH 4 and GH5 support down converting in the Panasonic MFT lineup. The standards converted ins will happily upscale a 720p or deinterlace a 1080i but 4k inputs will be ignored.
I notice from your links that B&H lists the Yolobox as discontinued. New model coming? Supply problems? Company defunct?
They are doing a new listing with updated product introduction, but same YoloBox. You can also find us on Amazon.
Hi Shane
I'm overdosing on all your videos at the moment. One thing you don't touch on here is the preview option, seeing what each input is giving you while switching. I'd go for the ATEM Mini if it had it. 2x the money for the Pro is a stretch for me.
Thank you so much for all you do. What about the OTON Geek S06-A, where does this rank in your opinion? Pros and cons.
Great video Thanks! Quick question - What if you have 2 USB cameras (like a logitec and a DSLR that streams out via USB). Is there a USB video switch?
No power buttons are provided so it doesn't get turned off accidentally in the middle of your programme. The power connectors are screwed on for the same reason.
This is so helpful, this three units are compatible or the software works with macs ? Thanks for sharing
I enjoyed this. There was a lot of useful information here. Maybe it is time to revisit this comparison with the Atomos Ninja X Cast.
Great analysis of the three. But two of the biggest factors to address are price and tangible buttons for feedback.
Yolo is $999 ATEM $295 and not sure on the other one. Those are huge differences. In a perfect world I'd buy the ATM and the YOLO and use the ATM as an input on my YOLO so then I have six total inputs and all the features of both.
At 5:18 you just saved me $270, thank you!!
Do any of you guys know if there is a hardware box out there, that takes two or more webcam inputs and one webcam (simulated) output? All I want is to have several webcams, and being able to switch between them, while the output is also a "webcam". Thanks for the video.
great great sutff!!! Thank you.
What can you share about the LAN connection and how to use it?
Thank you so much for your video. I'm wondering what are the options of video transition effect between the different HDMI in the Yolo box?
I think the l1 looks great for streaming if you're using say a zoom l-8 hooked up directly to obs and just using the l1 as a dedicated switcher.
great video and summary! would've been helpful to mention the price of the Yolobox before you got me so excited for it haha
I'm a 60 year old musician that does alot of Facebook lives with my music, LIVE LOOPING ( I see your a musician yourself). I want something easy, auto switching between cameras while I'm playing and I want to come out of my mixing board into something to geT the best sound I can. I'm doing this all by myself.. I hope you can suggest something for me.. thanks
Thanks for the comparison 😊👍🏻
Is it possible to use the yolobox as an virtual webcam too? I’m looking for something to use within Microsoft Teams meetings and live events...
Your video really helpful, very clear comparison, thank you!
What if im using my own sound board and mics separately to a DAW? Is the sync still a problem?
Thanks, my question why Yolobox video is slow?
Thanks for your comparison. Can we adjust or resize PiP on LivePro? On Mini, I can and am able to create zoom-effect. However, be careful with ATEM Mini series, since some people got heat problem. My Mini's HDMI output burnt after 2 months of usage, and dealing with RMA means losing productivity.
Great review! Can I ask what the recording bitrate is for the yolobox in 1080p?
YoloBox uses CQ(Constant Quality) encoding method, it is very friendly for weak internet environment and doesn't require a high bitrate for 1080p recording and streaming.
For using a mirrorless/DSLR camera in 1080p mode at 30fps to do Zoom conferences: Do you know how the video quality of the Blackmagic ATEM Mini compares to the Magewell Capture HDMI Gen 12 and/or the Elgato Cam Link? If I want to minimize latency, am I better off getting an internal computer card like the Magewell Pro Capture HDMI Card? I heard complaints about certain capture cards that use some form of jpeg compression that reduces the video image quality. Does that really matter? Does a device using USB 2.0 vs USB 3.0 make any difference in latency? (I know the Blackmagic ATEM Mini is a switcher with extra features, but at this temporary point, I'm just trying to understand differences in latency and video quality for each device using 1 mirrorless/DSLR camera.) Thanks.
Is there audio drift with the LivePro when plugging a mic directly into the box? NOT using audio from the HDMI sources
Great Review.
My question is, using Atem Mini or Mini Pro with just one hdmi output, when you use the monitor connected to the output as Multiview, what goes out to the USB, is it Multiview or program?
Also, how can you make use of both Multiview and Program when doing live switching with the device?
The Preview
I imagine the lack of power button is for two reasons. Cheaper to make and harder to accidentally cut your live feed off.
Great video anyway mate
Hi
thanks for the video.
Question: How would you stream multiple 4K HDMI Kameras?
Greetings&Blessings
easyfisch
You keep talking and blocking the movie while I'm trying to watch it in the background. I haven't seen Night of the Living Dead in a long time. 🧟♂️
Thanks for the comparisons it's a great help. 😎
Did you see an image quality difference over USB with these? I know all ATEM minis use MJPEG over USB2.0, not sure about the others.
Have you had any experience with the Devicewell HDS9125 5-Channel 11.6 inch LCD Monitor 4 HDMI Live Stream Switcher?
Bit of an odd question but do any ot these have a Kensington lock or available with a locking bracket?
Is there anything that can connect to a Rodecaster pro what can be set up as “video follows audio”. Where depending on what mic is being used on the Rodecaster pro the video can be switched automatically based on the mic that is being used?
Hi Shane, thanks for the very helpful and detailed video! I apologize if this seems redundant but I held off from purchasing ATEM mini because of the audio drift via the USB. Just to be clear the USB drift after a few hours of streaming has been addressed by Blackmagic?
It appears to be fixed. It happened to me 100% of the time around 45-60 minutes in and now it appears to be fine. There was an update a few weeks ago.
the firmware update seems to have fixed the drift issue for most people...but there are still reports of it happening post-firmware update...check the blackmagic forum re audio drift for posts...you'll probably be ok but you'll only know for sure once you've tested it with your own setup...
What is the real problem those tools solve for a regular user streaming simply with a Webcam from a computer at home?
If i wanted to stream a dancing class online (facebook instagram), 3 cameras (1 static and 2 moving), which one would you suggest?
Is the Livepro L 1 firmware and audio fixed yet?2021
Can you connect the FeelWorld Live Pro L1 in the USB port on the Yolobox ?
Can the ATEM handle a 4K webcam with USB output? or must all inputs be HDMI?
Quick question.. how does the Elgato switch deck stans up to that pack???? Thanks...
Thanks for the review for church service which should I go for?
Could you do a tutorial on using OBS with one of these switchers ?
I did a tutorial on OBS already but it was more aimed towards gaming so I'll get onto this idea soon :)
Does the Freeworld LivePro L1 need a Black Magic converter to connect to a Mac?
great job .. I have
question pls. . there is a multi view in mine atem pls or not! !
You state the two hdmi inputs limit the YOLO. Adding an hdmi switcher would be a really low cost solution to rectify that problem. I have a two and a four hdmi switcher. Essentially you could run up to eight cameras, which would be a massive production but it could be done on a decent budget. Hit the switchers to the desired camera then make the transition. You failed to mention in a previous video if there is a paid subscription to YOLO or how much.
I just checked the price of the Yolobox - and decided that my Atem mini is just fine.
Hi ! Isn’t it possible to get the usbc out from the amp to the yololive as an input ? Thanks
Hey Geeky Nerdy Techy, which of these mixer you think would work best for worship houses live streaming their services? Getting the audio from the soundboard and for the use of 4 cameras.
The ATEM is your best bet if you are using audio that is not connected directly to a camera.
I would have liked to have seen the Cerevo LiveWedge in this roundup.
is it usually the audio is ahead or behind the video, just want to know i will be using a digital console which can easily be delayed...
The video encoding takes longer than the audio so you usually have to delay the incoming audio if it's on one of the separate audio inputs. If you feed your audio to a camera then it will be in sync already. On the ATEM mini series you can choose which audio source should be sent to program, even mix several inputs if necessary.
Thank you Governor. This is exactly the video I wanted to see!
Planning of buying one for a live event like weddings, we all know that we can not gather a lot of people for an event so some of the events preferred a live stream. 2 camera set up with 1 broll wireless and a wireless aroll. Which of those 3 can give a descent output?
YoloBox wil get the job one. But connecting wirelessly with cameras will require wireless transmitters with any of those products, if that's what you ask.
@@frankfengzhu got 2 set of hollyland 300. Maybe it’ll do.
@@AmayaStudiosRT yeah YoloBox works great with Hollyland.
Hi, can you tell if the YoloBox work on LTE?
Your B&H link lists YOLO as discontinued
Maybe they don't sell them anymore but the YoloBox software just updated again two days ago. :)
@@GeekyNerdyTechy There was some content upgrade on B&H and also we are back ordered in US. New link will come out soon.
I wonder why you did not cover price points? Yolo 1k$, Livepro 300$, ATEM mini 300, ATEM mini PRO 600$, AND ATEM mini PRO ISO 900$ rough prices. I have a ATEM mini PRO, but need more inputs, as I have a rather complex and thus versatile setup. more inputs allows me to change what I am doing without re-plugging. Currently i have head on camera, top down, side view, and PC. adding a handheld camera and perhaps other views for specific uses, and adding a gaming console. so i will be purchasing a second unit at some point in the future. I love the concept of the YOLOBox, but at that price i will probably pass. LivePro has a great set of features at a great pricepoint comperable to the ATEM mini. to get similar features from ATEM I need to spend a lot more $. The advantage to staying with ATEM and say just getting a mini to go with my PRO is I can control both simultaneously with the software. but at the same price point... if I can control the LivePro with Companion software (coupled with my Streamdeck) then the software control from BlackMagicDesign is a Mute point. currently I edit all my videos, and primarily use my ATEM mini PRO to streamline my workflow, but I do plan to start streaming in the near future.
Very useful info. Am I the only one who found the black & white video in the background distracting?
t's "Night of the living dead". It's a classic. Being it's coming up to where some countries celebrate Halloween I thought I'd play my part haha.
@@GeekyNerdyTechy That makes sense. I just discovered your channel. I like what you do, so I subscribed.
Thanks! excellent review!
Thanks for watching!
Does the Yolobox record inputs individually into seperate files or just the program output?
Currently YoloBox could only record the program output. The ISO recording is an additional software feature to develop.
Please activate the Spanish subtitles for the Latin public in general: Central America, South America and Spain in Europe. Greetings from Colombia.
Hi Alex, I work for a small charity and we have had to change the way we support our clients, due to COVID restrictions. We have started using MS Teams and are doing some meetings and training on line now, but are seeing the limitations. I came across your channel and demos of this interesting kit. I have a few questions:
1. Is there much training needed to get familiar with this kit?
2. We are considering kitting out a small webinar suite for course delivery and live events - could you recommend a list of equipGabment that would suit this task?
Thanks
Man you’re the best! Thanks a lot
Night of the Living Dead in the background. Respect.
I believe the L1 and ATEM don’t have power buttons because they’re covered in buttons, so turning off your unit instead of switching is at a greater risk than with the Yolobox
I'm writing this comment on 11/4/20 and the B&H link says the Yolo has been "discontinued."
there will be a new listing. as there was previously some upgrade and the content doesn't 100% match anymore.
@@frankfengzhu Okay, thanks!
Did you mention ATEM Minie (Pro) downscales a 4K incoming signal to HD?! I believe AMP only accepts 1080 or 720 and can scale it to one of its standard formats
I leave my GH5 at 4k and it scales down. It could also be that the camera changes the output down automatically but I’ll double check that. All I know is I never need to adjust the camera resolution
@@GeekyNerdyTechy Thanks. For the Sony A6400 I can record in 4K and set HDMI out to 1080
@@LikeThisReview It was my camera downscaling, I just updated the pinned comment. I can record internally on the camera at 4k and the output will scale back.
Yellow box price ?
Is there a way to view all camera feeda on output at the same time (on any of these)?
same question.. any device in this price range that can have multiple picture in picture (atleast three sources simultaneously)
Yolobox would be good, but 2+1usb is just not enough. I have the atem mini pro tho. I believe it is the best for scalability.
YoloBox's USB input can simply be utilized as the 3rd camera source, with a $10 dollar cheap converter. 3 HDMI Input is more than enough for most of my customer cases.
@@frankfengzhu I use 2-3 cameras on a regular basis, and also I need 1-2 PC:'s for videomedia/vMix calls. And usb is always unreliable for video feed, and always as low amount of physical adapter make stuff more failsafe.
Why people use both yolo and atem together???
Thanks
what about the ISO¿?
I have a yolo live yolo box its good but i don’t like the colors, when I do my live in Facebook in the church just doesnt look very good, something blurry comes out...it just goes pale.. is not the camera! !! I have a video camera Sony FDR-AX700. In my opinion I would rather buy an atem mini switcher and do your lives in a software OBS, VMIX, there is more!
Hmm. Didn't mention the price. Yolo being 500 bucks or more than the other two. In fact the same price as the new Atem mini extreme.
It's a computer/tablet style design so the costs will be far more than something with no screen. It's aimed at someone who doesn't want to hook anything up to a computer or be limited by ethernet connections. :)
Like your videos (but the bright screen and the movie in the background not so much)
It's "Night of the living dead". It's a classic. Being its coming up to where some countries celebrate Halloween I thought I'd play my part haha.