4.12 The Heresies - The “Spirit-fighters” and the Aftermath of Nicaea | Way of the Fathers

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  • After the Council of Nicaea, all the same questions that had been asked of the Son of God, were now asked of the Holy Spirit. Is the Holy Spirit divine, and worthy of worship? Does worship of the Holy Spirit compromise monotheism? Some who reluctantly accepted the divinity of the Son still refused to accept the divinity of the Spirit, and so they continued to reject the doctrine of the Trinity - these were called “Spirit-fighters.” This controversy led to the Second Ecumenical Council of Constantinople in the year 381 AD, and to the completion of the Nicene Creed.
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  • @josephjude1290
    @josephjude1290 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Great history and knowledge

  • @joselitonaranjo3234
    @joselitonaranjo3234 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Thank you very much.

  • @stanthemankarmas4386
    @stanthemankarmas4386 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    💯🙏

  • @DanielFernandez-jv7jx
    @DanielFernandez-jv7jx หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thanks for this fascinating history lesson! An additional thought: I was taught that what was implied at these councils was that the creed should not be changed without an ecumenical council. That is what the EO folks say. It was kind of rude, at the very least, even if not heretical. Is this incorrect?

    • @uncle_Samssubjects
      @uncle_Samssubjects หลายเดือนก่อน

      That's basically my understanding of the EO position also.

    • @TheOriginalChurch
      @TheOriginalChurch 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      That is what some Eastern Christians say, but Nicaea and Constantinople never said that there can't be other creeds besides the Nicene Creed or regional creeds - only that every Creed that wants to call itself Christian cannot contradict the Nicene Creed. The response of the west would be that the addition of the Filioque is not a change of the Nicene Creed, but that by adding the Filioque, the west was only doing to the Creed of 381 what the Creed of 381 did to the Creed of 325.

    • @DanielFernandez-jv7jx
      @DanielFernandez-jv7jx 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@TheOriginalChurch Thank you for this. I never thought of it that way. But were no safeguards ever placed around either the content of the creed, or how or by whom it could be appended to?

    • @TheOriginalChurch
      @TheOriginalChurch 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@DanielFernandez-jv7jx Not as such - but the assumption, as I understand it, is that one cannot disagree with any part of the Nicene Creed and still call oneself a Christian, since Christianity is defined according to the Creed and the doctrine of the Trinity

    • @DanielFernandez-jv7jx
      @DanielFernandez-jv7jx 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@TheOriginalChurch Thank you!

  • @davidrobinson7950
    @davidrobinson7950 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    In a word, disaster.