Can China's Comac break up the Airbus-Boeing duopoly?

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  • China is on a mission to break up the Airbus-Boeing duopoly and it hopes the domestically made Comac C919 will be its first big break into foreign markets.
    Made by the Commercial Aircraft Corporation of China (Comac), the passenger aircraft has been touted as the “dream of a nation” by Chinese President Xi Jinping.
    If successful, the C919 would offer airlines an alternative to the Airbus A320 and Boeing 737 families.
    However, there are still several hurdles Comac would need to clear before it could take on the French and American aerospace giants’ dominance.
    Today, the bulk of the C919 orders, which can be outfitted with up to 192 seats, are from domestic carriers and Chinese companies that lease aircraft to airlines.
    GallopAir, a new Brunei-based airline, is the first carrier outside of China to order the C919. They have ordered 15 C919s and 15 ARJ21s, Comac’s small jet aircraft.
    The airline will launch at the end of 2024 with the ARJ21, according to its CEO Cham Chi.
    “As a customer and operator of China’s Comac products, we can get financial support from China’s import-export bank, and also central banks,” Cham told CNBC in an interview.
    According to Cham, Comac said it would consider creating aircraft maintenance, repair and overhaul support for its aircraft in Brunei.
    “For the first and second aircraft, we’ll still need to fly to Shanghai for MRO,” he said. “After three to five aircrafts have been delivered, then we can start MRO in Brunei.”
    The future production rate, especially for the C919, remains in question for Comac.
    “It’s a big question, having only delivered four aircraft over the last several years,” Adam Cowburn, managing director of Alton Aviation Consultancy told CNBC.
    “Industry analysts will look at production rate to understand at what rate they are going to start to meaningfully chip away at the market share of Boeing and Airbus. Our models predict that was still quite some time out,” Cowburn said.
    Brendan Sobie, an independent analyst from Sobie Aviation said that Comac’s aspiration is to have international sales, though it will take time.
    “Airlines want that third option after Airbus and Boeing, particularly given Boeing’s issues recently,” he told CNBC.
    Boeing has been hit with a multitude of safety issues, particularly involving their Boeing 737 Max.
    “It’s still early to say whether [Comac] is a serious competitor in the long run,” Brendan added.
    Watch the video above to learn more about Comac’s origins, and whether it has what it takes to disrupt Airbus and Boeing.
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  • @CNBCi
    @CNBCi  หลายเดือนก่อน +259

    Would you ride in a C919?

    • @antoniobabb1938
      @antoniobabb1938 หลายเดือนก่อน +273

      No but still better than Boeing I guess.

    • @skinnybricks
      @skinnybricks หลายเดือนก่อน +125

      I mean, it's probably fine.

    • @sadihy
      @sadihy หลายเดือนก่อน +64

      Not until it's certified by EASA and/or the FAA.

    • @lindafukuyu5767
      @lindafukuyu5767 หลายเดือนก่อน +123

      Yes, I will !

    • @alileevil
      @alileevil หลายเดือนก่อน +237

      Over a Boeing? Definitely!

  • @jjbully
    @jjbully หลายเดือนก่อน +467

    later they will say China has overcapacity in plane 😂

    • @widodoakrom3938
      @widodoakrom3938 หลายเดือนก่อน +33

      Lol true

    • @souria1671
      @souria1671 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      🤣🤣🤣🤣👍👍
      Quand c’était eux qui produisaient pendant bien longtemps, il n’y avait aucun problème 😌

    • @samiah21
      @samiah21 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      😂

    • @eyeonchina2023
      @eyeonchina2023 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Not likely since it uses western parts. 😂

    • @yiquny
      @yiquny หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      ​@@eyeonchina2023logic? Be aware Boeing uses Chinese components

  • @sn350channel
    @sn350channel หลายเดือนก่อน +1215

    At this point, any new airplane manufacture is better than Boeing.

    • @trentkenzler8478
      @trentkenzler8478 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Unless it's made in China. Tofu buildings, tin can navy.

    • @shawncheng404
      @shawncheng404 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      Stupid idea

    • @ogasdiaz
      @ogasdiaz หลายเดือนก่อน +70

      @@gravelDave after MCAS fiasco and the ripped off window it's not about beliefs anymore.

    • @johnwinter7597
      @johnwinter7597 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      That’s such a lame statement

    • @user-jt5cn9qh1z
      @user-jt5cn9qh1z หลายเดือนก่อน

      Why ? ​@@shawncheng404

  • @zhubotang927
    @zhubotang927 หลายเดือนก่อน +536

    I don’t think EU or US would certify C919. This is not a reflection of C919 quality or safety or anything. It is just protectionism.

    • @TRONTC
      @TRONTC หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      Bhahah by that argument they shouldn't certify a Embraer or a B or A . They will certify it. It's more or less a western + Chinese combo aircraft. Though on account of Geopolitical issues it'll take a little longer and be more in-depth. Looking forward to more competition in the market and flying on a. C919 soon.

    • @Unclesam404
      @Unclesam404 หลายเดือนก่อน +28

      Well think of it this way. China buy tons of of airbus. So China will get EU certification. US certification is not needed given the geopolitical situation. And after all, China can’t produce enough for themselves why export ? China will buy 0 Boeing airplanes from now on.

    • @davidz7858
      @davidz7858 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      C919 could be survived with domestic market and Asia, Africa and South America market. Its main goat is to prove its liabilities and save.

    • @NadeemAhmed-nv2br
      @NadeemAhmed-nv2br หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      ​@@Unclesam404china demand requirements is ironically so high that they'll bite their tongue and continue buying Boeing.
      Of course comac and Airbus they never stopped buying from but their demand is so large that even these 3 combined aren't enough to satisfy demand so Embraer will probably still in also.
      Of course, most of the components for all 4 makers come from those handful of European and American companies

    • @Unclesam404
      @Unclesam404 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@NadeemAhmed-nv2br hehe has China ever bought/deliver any Boeing aircraft since the Trump trade war ? Can you please do some research ?

  • @chrisk5437
    @chrisk5437 หลายเดือนก่อน +189

    Comac doesn’t need to break up the duopoly, Boeing will do it for them…

    • @xuchen4012
      @xuchen4012 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      monopoly is worse ...

    • @lancewood1410
      @lancewood1410 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

      yep, japanese calls it harakiri LOL.

  • @Wilson24678
    @Wilson24678 หลายเดือนก่อน +221

    What kind of person would complain about having another player to break the duopoly market?

    • @user-jo9xh9yg7o
      @user-jo9xh9yg7o หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      美国 台湾

    • @darthvadeth6290
      @darthvadeth6290 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

      jealous and hateful people, lol

    • @nuevision8
      @nuevision8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The same people that go to court to keep the Green Party off of elections ballots in many states...

    • @ervinabdullah881
      @ervinabdullah881 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Boing and Airbus fan will surely against any Chinese and Russia made airplane.

    • @lancewood1410
      @lancewood1410 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      very VILE species.

  • @craiglee3253
    @craiglee3253 หลายเดือนก่อน +728

    It won't be hard for China to beat boeing quality.

    • @Louis1059
      @Louis1059 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      CCP quality is the same as Boeing lol

    • @user-tt6il2up4o
      @user-tt6il2up4o หลายเดือนก่อน +120

      @@Louis1059higher than boeing

    • @ericyeo1454
      @ericyeo1454 หลายเดือนก่อน +40

      If china is low quality, boeing is usable quality. Even boeing workers say they wont board if its an boeing plane. LMAO

    • @zacksmith5963
      @zacksmith5963 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      ​@@Louis1059 and u have proof of today😂

    • @jeremyknight1927
      @jeremyknight1927 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@user-tt6il2up4o how's it higher if their designs are stolen from Boeing?

  • @backemf89
    @backemf89 หลายเดือนก่อน +518

    For now chinas ambition is not overseas but being self-reliance and independent from Western monopoly

    • @matiasavellanal5244
      @matiasavellanal5244 หลายเดือนก่อน +39

      except it isn't cause most of the parts are western made

    • @John_.Cabell_.Breckinridge
      @John_.Cabell_.Breckinridge หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      Then why make it with so many Western components? Even Bombardier played a role in its design

    • @siddharthgoyal4008
      @siddharthgoyal4008 หลายเดือนก่อน +79

      @@John_.Cabell_.Breckinridge because it makes sense to start initially with known and working parts. Even in Solar industry initially China leveraged German suppliers, eventually it added more value chain and now China has absolute domination over Solar industry across all verticals.

    • @backemf89
      @backemf89 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@John_.Cabell_.Breckinridge what's wrong with that? you live in an open free market globalized world. Even being and Airbus gets their critical mineral and material supplied from China.

    • @John_.Cabell_.Breckinridge
      @John_.Cabell_.Breckinridge หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@siddharthgoyal4008 but China has had an aviation industry since the 1950s and to this day most of their jets have western components or are based on a Russian design.

  • @davidchen3503
    @davidchen3503 หลายเดือนก่อน +181

    If China replace half of its domestic market with ARJ21, C919, C929, that would be big blow to Airbus and Boeing.

    • @luffirton
      @luffirton หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      The big question is will Chinese airlines trust them enough to buy them and will Chinese passengers want to fly with them, like right now people are saying if it’s a Boeing I’m not going. Reputation in this industry is everything

    • @davidchen3503
      @davidchen3503 หลายเดือนก่อน +36

      @@luffirton China Eastern Airline is flying four C919, daily.

    • @MulaFresh-bi3mq
      @MulaFresh-bi3mq หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      ​@@luffirton You slow

    • @calvinkong6849
      @calvinkong6849 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Airbus should be more disastrous

    • @antonsjoberg
      @antonsjoberg หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@davidchen3503 4 is nothing

  • @robertlee6338
    @robertlee6338 หลายเดือนก่อน +112

    If COMAC takes 50% of Chinese domestic market it is 25% of sales from Boeing and Airbus

    • @MSDGroup-ez6zk
      @MSDGroup-ez6zk หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      Plus its massive 160 countries of its China silk road member markets.

  • @xx133
    @xx133 หลายเดือนก่อน +351

    Boeing CEO just said Comac planes are equivalent to their offering. So why not choose Comac, when Boeing’s planes are dismantling in midair.

    • @TomNook.
      @TomNook. หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Because it takes a lot of time to make them

    • @BS-vm5bt
      @BS-vm5bt หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Why not airbus that have non of the issues boeing got.

    • @martinishot
      @martinishot หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      With 737 MAX doors maybe not bolted on. With C919 wings, engines, fuselage sections, landing gear, tail, passenger seats, overhead bins, jump seats, coffee maker(you read that right) maybe not bolted on.

    • @martinishot
      @martinishot หลายเดือนก่อน

      I'm sure he said equivalent to their offerings 30 even 40 years ago. The technology is so old and they will be paying so much more for fuel.

    • @MSDGroup-ez6zk
      @MSDGroup-ez6zk หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@martinishot look at China EV, does it take 30-40 years to develop it?

  • @pratronald
    @pratronald หลายเดือนก่อน +359

    Certification from the FAA is meaningless... It didnt save those people from dying on those boeng aircrafts, did it????

    • @darrellgorsuch5599
      @darrellgorsuch5599 หลายเดือนก่อน +60

      no, it did not - because the FAA had outsourced the the certification process to boeing itself, in effect

    • @kamalabrahman6925
      @kamalabrahman6925 หลายเดือนก่อน +31

      FAA has bad reputation and no longer a independent body for airplane certification...

    • @steveablet4041
      @steveablet4041 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@kamalabrahman6925 the accidents are unfortunate, but will make aviation safer. too bad people buy into media hysteria.

    • @kamalabrahman6925
      @kamalabrahman6925 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @steveablet4041
      Accidents can be prevented if you have taken the out hazards
      This is by taking the preventive measures and recovery measures....
      But if you omit all these safety procedures, then you are planning for failure..

    • @steveablet4041
      @steveablet4041 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@kamalabrahman6925 Not entirely true. Even following every procedure can still result in accidents. Some are predictable and some are not. There are some accidents in aviation that no person on the planet could have thought of. You have an unrealistic expectation that things made by humans are perfect.

  • @huanghermann5207
    @huanghermann5207 หลายเดือนก่อน +165

    It is a long way to go for COMAC. Luckily, China has a big market for it to grow up.

    • @Akash-uq8wg
      @Akash-uq8wg หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      1000+ orders, you bet they will catch up

    • @jogana6909
      @jogana6909 หลายเดือนก่อน +33

      After the introduction of China cars in Australia, the prices of both EV and ICE vehicle have dropped, and consumers are the beneficiaries of competition (including those who have not bought China cars).

    • @Akash-uq8wg
      @Akash-uq8wg หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@jogana6909 yup those ridiculous profits tesla made, so it could afford stock by backs are over. Now its harder to inflate their stock.

    • @nerrailwaygorakhpur7173
      @nerrailwaygorakhpur7173 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@jogana6909what you want to say? Can you believe they will Catchup or not?

    • @jogana6909
      @jogana6909 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

      @@nerrailwaygorakhpur7173
      What I want to say is that competition is better than monopoly.

  • @arminius6506
    @arminius6506 หลายเดือนก่อน +51

    Comac isn't in a hurry, they're looking up in the time frame of 2-4 decades to establish themselves in the international market. They'd easily get 2000+ orders from China and then smooth operations of those thousands of aircrafts can easily get them certification from anywhere. Comac don't need to beat Boeing or Airbus, establishing itself as a third biggest commercial aircraft maker would be a mega success for them and China.

    • @aslampervez2294
      @aslampervez2294 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      They will beat them on the price

    • @nsebast
      @nsebast หลายเดือนก่อน

      If the safety records are established, pretty sure the whole world is going to buy from China again. Boeing and Airbus will majority only be purchased domestically.

  • @cabasadefogo9533
    @cabasadefogo9533 หลายเดือนก่อน +343

    How can you underestimate the Chinese at anything these days
    1) They were forbidden on the International Space Station, in less than 10yrs they have a superior station in place.
    2) Their cars were laughed at 10yrs ago, now Elon Musk wants heavy protection in the west against Chinese EVs.
    3) They were sanctioned and it was thought they can at best make 14nm chips. Well, 7nm last year and 5nm this year. With Lithography machines coming.
    4) Their navy was laughed at 15yrs ago. Now the type 55 destroyer of PLAN is being copied by the US navy. Simply compared to image to the proposed DDGX to the already in service type 55.
    5) We were gonna have the first railgun. Opps, it is canceled now. While the Chinese have field tested theirs on a ship 2yrs ago! Now developing railgun launching system for out of space.
    I can go on, but I don't have enough zoloft and xanax for that.

    • @JigilJigil
      @JigilJigil หลายเดือนก่อน +21

      1 - They've a space station that is totally based on 50 years old Russia\Soveit technologies, with no innovation, the technology that belongs to museum as Russia was not able to advanced it further after the soviet fall, funny is that, the Chinese couldn't even make the docking system and ask Russians to transfered the tech as well.
      2 - Their EVs are nothing but low quality fire hazard cars, and based on stolen tech from Tesla (read the recent WSJ article about quality of BYD and other Chinese EVs.)

    • @cabasadefogo9533
      @cabasadefogo9533 หลายเดือนก่อน +129

      @@JigilJigil sour grapes 🍇 much?

    • @trentkenzler8478
      @trentkenzler8478 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@cabasadefogo9533 Tengping, wumao!! Don't believe the lies of your CCP masters!!

    • @lol-wd5cw
      @lol-wd5cw หลายเดือนก่อน +95

      @@JigilJigiltell me you know nothing about china without telling me you know nothing about china

    • @JigilJigil
      @JigilJigil หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@lol-wd5cw OK wumao.

  • @ashvinkumarbhoyar3037
    @ashvinkumarbhoyar3037 หลายเดือนก่อน +70

    the same FAA who certified 737 max will certify comac ? 🤣🤣🤣

    • @lancewood1410
      @lancewood1410 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Why would Comac need faa certification if they don't intend to fly to americaaaaaa :)

  • @regorflora7915
    @regorflora7915 หลายเดือนก่อน +102

    Airbus: it no different from what airbus and boeing already have.
    Comac: yes, but it will be cheaper.

    • @hakanevin8545
      @hakanevin8545 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      I wouldn't bet on that. Comac is using the same parts as Boeing and Airbus which have the advantage of economy of scale. Comac will need a long time to reduce their costs down to Boeing and Airbus level, maybe they will never make it.
      Their target is not being cheap, but making China less dependent.

    • @pjacobsen1000
      @pjacobsen1000 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      The list price is almost identical. No airlines pay the list price, but it is never made public what the real price is.

    • @regorflora7915
      @regorflora7915 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@hakanevin8545are the chinese capable of reverse engineering those spare part?

    • @hakanevin8545
      @hakanevin8545 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@regorflora7915 Sure they are. Chinese mobile phones are more high tech than the best selling aircraft A320 designed in 1980s. Bu do they need reverse engineering? Those parts are already available to Chinese companies.

    • @marcmcreynolds2827
      @marcmcreynolds2827 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@hakanevin8545 Speaking of "A320" and "1980s", a big drawback to the C919 is that it matches up against a 1980s A320 rather than a current one. It's not competitive with current offerings, other than perhaps on price. Payload is significantly less and fuel burned is higher.

  • @toucancheney9091
    @toucancheney9091 หลายเดือนก่อน +165

    Boeing is gonna break itself.

    • @user-wp8de6cc9s
      @user-wp8de6cc9s หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Not now, as long as our president Xi continues using 747-8i as his flying palace.

    • @toucancheney9091
      @toucancheney9091 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@user-wp8de6cc9s Indeed CPC is now Boeing's last strew

  • @temper44
    @temper44 หลายเดือนก่อน +53

    It's 60% made in China. That's still impressive though, its very hard to make a modern airliner.

    • @abdiganiaden
      @abdiganiaden หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      They only make wings and fuselage, everything else is from USA and some from French, how is that 60%?

    • @damianodonnell5844
      @damianodonnell5844 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

      @@abdiganiaden they said 3/5 of the plane parts were made in china , 3/5 is equal to 60%

    • @zacksmith5963
      @zacksmith5963 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@abdiganiaden they made me than that

    • @The_Stef
      @The_Stef หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      @@damianodonnell5844 I think you misunderstood the video. the video mentioned that 3/5th of all components come form the USA and 1/3 from Europe. This leaves only 10% of components coming from China or other countries. Plus the assembly of course.

    • @WellSalt-Studio
      @WellSalt-Studio หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      @@abdiganiaden No commercial airliner manufactures all the components of its own aircraft. Even if it has the ability to manufacture its own aircraft, it will choose to cooperate with multiple manufacturers due to cost factors. China has intercontinental large transport aircraft entirely manufactured by itself. In 2030, the localization rate of C919 will exceed 70%, which will be higher than the current value of Boeing.
      The C929 is a long-range wide-body jet airliner independently developed in accordance with internationally accepted airworthiness standards and with independent intellectual property rights. It is equipped with the self-developed Yangtze River 2000 engine, with a basic seating capacity of 280 and a range of 12,000 kilometers. Orders have exceeded 500.

  • @golu4706
    @golu4706 หลายเดือนก่อน +173

    Considering MAX 737 saga, I think C-1919 has fair chance

    • @abdiganiaden
      @abdiganiaden หลายเดือนก่อน

      You’re joking, majority of Comac parts are sourced from the west
      Only parts China makes is wings, fuselage, and radar cover
      Everything else is USA made

    • @christodang
      @christodang หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Some of the parts of the current C919 are made by Airbus and Boeing suppliers soooo. Mind you China wants to have most of the parts made within China in the near future

    • @phoreal22
      @phoreal22 หลายเดือนก่อน

      America is going to stifle competition by pressuring FAA to not provide "airworthiness"

    • @peterkotara
      @peterkotara หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Comac will likely struggle to get a foothold in the western market as airlines are risk averse and Comac does not have an established parts and support network, the companies QC procedures are opaque, Chinas aviation industry has an appalling reputation for poor reliability and the C919 is overweight so unlikely to get close to the fuel efficiency of the western product. They will improve and will do well in China and some developing nations (a huge and growing market), but I don't see them cracking the western market any time soon (even accounting for the fact that there is a 7 year waiting list for some Airbus aircraft).

    • @leihtory7423
      @leihtory7423 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@peterkotara USA EU buys Brazil's New Embraer E195.
      Why wont they buy Chinese. Same components made by Western Countries?
      Geopolitics?

  • @jiaqishen2810
    @jiaqishen2810 หลายเดือนก่อน +60

    The hosts couldn't even call the name of 737max, instead calling it 737 family lmao.

    • @Adrian_Nel
      @Adrian_Nel หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @jiaqishen2810 Nothing wrong with that. Absolutely nothing. One might also speak, for one easy example, of a 'family of engines'as in, Ford's Eco Boost family of engines have some known weak points.

    • @9999AWC
      @9999AWC หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Because the entire 737 lineup is still relevant today, especially the NG and even the 200 from the 70s.

  • @happymelon7129
    @happymelon7129 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Actually Comac is working with Airbus to compete Boeing.

  • @ryanlittleton5615
    @ryanlittleton5615 หลายเดือนก่อน +205

    All three aircraft in the thumbnail are Airbus A320 aircraft. Don't go to MSM for aviation news...

    • @diamesarr1500
      @diamesarr1500 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      😂😂😂

    • @felixonetwothree2245
      @felixonetwothree2245 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Loool

    • @tailsorange2872
      @tailsorange2872 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      Says a person who can't see the difference between the models.

    • @Artemie-np3qu
      @Artemie-np3qu หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Are you blind

    • @ryanlittleton5615
      @ryanlittleton5615 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      @@tailsorange2872 It has since been changed I swear LOL. However the blueprint aircraft pictured is still an A320. And the top left is an A320neo.

  • @fyc55
    @fyc55 หลายเดือนก่อน +40

    I would prefer COMAC to Boeing, definitely!

    • @steveablet4041
      @steveablet4041 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      You would prefer something that is unknown versus known? Accidents are unfortunate but make aviation safer.

    • @fyc55
      @fyc55 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      @@steveablet4041 You want to be Boeing's victim to make aviation safer? FAA certification is a joke!

    • @steveablet4041
      @steveablet4041 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@fyc55 You take the same risk flying on ANY aircraft. Since you wrote your comment a day ago 10s of thousands of Boeing aircraft have taken off and landed safely. The recent incidents are unfortunate however those problems have been corrected. No Boeing aircraft are grounded at the moment by any international regulator. You are buying into the media hysteria.

    • @user-kd3pq3jt9v
      @user-kd3pq3jt9v หลายเดือนก่อน

      ⁠@@steveablet4041you mean known danger and unknown danger? I would pick the unknown one.

  • @shronklescrimblo69
    @shronklescrimblo69 หลายเดือนก่อน +50

    Comac needs to make it's move and assure it's quality now while Boeing is struggling

  • @agoodchow
    @agoodchow หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    Both Made in China commercial aircraft and commercial cruise ship need the time to grow and improve. Will certainly improve down the road.

  • @jessecruzu
    @jessecruzu หลายเดือนก่อน +56

    @4:50
    AIRBUS - A
    BOEING - B
    and COMAC - C 😂

    • @ogasdiaz
      @ogasdiaz หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      They are a were of their position and are working hard to become number 1. The same thing happened with byd

    • @KingKongWorld
      @KingKongWorld 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      This is a kinderkarten level riddle or joke. 🤣
      The trick is in the choice of the 1st letter in your name.
      My friend Aaron was always the first choice of the school teacher, don't ask me why 🙃
      Apart from that. As a new buyer, you must be a fool to choose B.

  • @zayn2476
    @zayn2476 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    comac will naturally replace boeing, and eventually airbus by having crazy competitive prices. China doesn't play to compete, it dominates

    • @jetli740
      @jetli740 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      name 1 company that choose compete over dominates. every company want to dominates their market

  • @pbworld7858
    @pbworld7858 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    As long as doors don't fly off in mid-air.

  • @godzillamothra5983
    @godzillamothra5983 หลายเดือนก่อน +76

    Airbus is making planes, Boeing is making flying coffin, how can they be a duopoly

    • @tommypaget2294
      @tommypaget2294 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Airbus is copy cat, they also copy Boeing is Boeing is the true leader. Lat year 2 Airbus A320 crashed in Rusham due to poor pitot-static design. Airbus is truly a European trash.

    • @kamalabrahman6925
      @kamalabrahman6925 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Wow, you have made your point correctly. I agree 1000 %%

    • @david50665
      @david50665 หลายเดือนก่อน

      so it is a monopoly now....that's why planes r so expensive

  • @obsun001
    @obsun001 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Most budget airlines from South East Asia are still rely on Airbus & Boeing fleet. For Comac flight become viable is to lease the aircraft to regional operators to minimize the cost & maintenance issues. By the time matures, confidenence will grow & order will increase eventually.

  • @tkyap2524
    @tkyap2524 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    Reliability and pricing will decide.

  • @jojoeverycat7726
    @jojoeverycat7726 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Boing and Airbus responses are not any different from Nokia when it faced the critical question on digital camera!

  • @STREETFOODJOURNEY5
    @STREETFOODJOURNEY5 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    that's exactly elon musk reaction a decade ago about BYD, now he bit his own tounge as BYD stole tesla's crown.

  • @charliezwl
    @charliezwl หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    US aviation certification is as useful as credit rating. Crash 737 & 2008 financial crisis.

    • @steveablet4041
      @steveablet4041 หลายเดือนก่อน

      the accidents are unfortunate but will make aviation safer. you're giving the media a high credit rating and buying into hysteria.

  • @DukeLM
    @DukeLM หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    The more competition or choices the better

  • @capdink
    @capdink หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    For sure in the next 2 decades they are gonna be great. They will actually make them better after a few decades.

  • @jeremypearson6852
    @jeremypearson6852 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    Comac doesn’t need to sell internationally, they have enough business in China and maybe Russia.

  • @AbdulHamid-pm8dm
    @AbdulHamid-pm8dm หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    Comec will fly in different countries in Asia, Russia, Africa and Middle eastern countries...

  • @dannnnn809
    @dannnnn809 หลายเดือนก่อน +67

    Of course, this will benefit Developing countries such as those in Southeast Asia. Never underestimate China

    • @jeremyknight1927
      @jeremyknight1927 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Never underestimate their ability to steal any proprietary data/designs.

    • @RoseRose-gk6ku
      @RoseRose-gk6ku หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      I'm with you. Just someone who is jealous & panic here.

    • @nerrailwaygorakhpur7173
      @nerrailwaygorakhpur7173 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      ​@@jeremyknight1927I only want to advice you to write some thing different man this arguments were don't work now ok? Go and try something different

    • @WellSalt-Studio
      @WellSalt-Studio หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      @@jeremyknight1927 When you have the ability to build a space station independently, it's not too late to brag.
      Dog barks at the train.

    • @coldham77
      @coldham77 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@WellSalt-Studio China stole those designs to.

  • @da480
    @da480 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Comac doesn’t have to exceed Airbus or Boeing sales to have an impact on the market. Over a 1000 already ordered planes is already this very impact.

  • @ranjithpowell6791
    @ranjithpowell6791 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Better quality than Boeing

  • @AloysiusTSY
    @AloysiusTSY หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    Thumbnails shows All 3 aircrafts are A320s. Then I checked, it’s from CNBC.
    Ahh. Right.

    • @Artemie-np3qu
      @Artemie-np3qu หลายเดือนก่อน

      Are you blind

    • @AloysiusTSY
      @AloysiusTSY หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Artemie-np3qu Mr Windows 1.0 was slow to the game. They changed it before you came replying here.

  • @StevenPhD4
    @StevenPhD4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    The more competition is always beneficial for the consumer

  • @valuedcustomer94384
    @valuedcustomer94384 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    I don't really think Boeing earned the right to comment on the C919... They should focus on their own problems.

  • @pjacobsen1000
    @pjacobsen1000 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    The sister aircraft, the ARJ21 saw its first delivery in 2015 and now, almost 10 years later, annual production looks to be around 24-36 craft/year. I have never built a civilian aircraft myself, but it is probably not an easy thing to do.

    • @tren133
      @tren133 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ARJ's market is more limited though, and as China's first domestic airliner, not surprising that production rates have not been that high. On the other hand, its safety record after 9 years seems to be okay, and that's the one thing you need to get right in this sector. The day COMAC does get into a groove, and especially if/when local supply lines are all set up within China itself, then watch out because at that point they can and will crank production. Planes are the hardest things to be build, but China has achieved similar results now with trains, cars, and ships, and eventually they'll get there with planes as well.

  • @fdjw88
    @fdjw88 หลายเดือนก่อน +27

    I have no idea how the 737Max passed the inspection from the department of transportation.

    • @elotello
      @elotello หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Money talks.

    • @HewbhurtGabon
      @HewbhurtGabon หลายเดือนก่อน

      You have to trust american aviation authority. They are the world standard. 😂😂😂

    • @mostbestjia627
      @mostbestjia627 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Let me tell you why: Boeing moved their headquarter from Seattle to Chicago and finally to DC

    • @milibibi2152
      @milibibi2152 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Corruption

  • @tushshubro
    @tushshubro หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The difference between a Boeing/Airbus having Chinese sourcing versus Comac having non-Chinese elements is the former opt for Chinese due to price and other considerations while the latter opts for them as it’s the only available source

  • @vinurp
    @vinurp หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    COMAC will defiantly brake the duopoly of Airbus & Boeing and acquire a decent space in airline industry very soon 😊

  • @sam06pr
    @sam06pr หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I'm surprised that Embraer hasn't pounced on this golden opportunity.

    • @alexandermathar7780
      @alexandermathar7780 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yes,they are perfectly capable of building B737 or Airbus sized aircraft !

  • @dread69420
    @dread69420 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    More competition is great, especially in a market that has basically kept a duopoly going on for decades.

  • @AustinKelly94
    @AustinKelly94 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I really appreciate the cockpit graphic at 3:35. Very creative!

  • @Qiushishuo
    @Qiushishuo หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    The foreign certificates are more depending on politics. It is sad.

  • @waltertomashefsky2682
    @waltertomashefsky2682 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    I’m expecting Comac to make RyanAir a deal they can’t refuse and soon RyanAir’s fleet will be 100% Comac and the camel’s nose will be completely in the tent.

  • @rickw5988
    @rickw5988 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Boeing will be just fine. They’ll learn from this and will continue to put out great product. I’m just as sure as that as I am of Comac growing over time.

    • @kamalabrahman6925
      @kamalabrahman6925 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Boeeing will take few years to recover from public scare from their plane....

    • @TamPham-rv9qn
      @TamPham-rv9qn หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@kamalabrahman6925 I agree, the fall of Boeing's quality for sure will be lesson and learn not only for Boeing but for Airbus and other as well.

  • @marufbepary100
    @marufbepary100 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    I think for the first few years (closer to a decade probably), it will be only operated by Chinese airlines. This will slowly show other airlines that Comac is a viable alternative to Airbus and Boeing. This is probably worse for Boeing than Airbus since Comac could capitalise on the current controversies with Boeing.

    • @pedrorequio5515
      @pedrorequio5515 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The West is not playing fair exactly. There is an area where China is impossible behind, Engine Technology, and the US is restricting access to modern engines. Copying these engines is easy, making the Materials that make them work is extraordinarily hard. Russia has better engine tech than China, but Russia will need scale because part availability is crucial for Airlines.

  • @mrklv1593
    @mrklv1593 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Comac=Airbus>>Boeing

  • @somcode5831
    @somcode5831 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    This plane will become security threat to americans

    • @widodoakrom3938
      @widodoakrom3938 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Lol true

    • @obinnaezealah2465
      @obinnaezealah2465 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Or they'll say "safety concerns".

    • @carloschin4363
      @carloschin4363 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@widodoakrom3938 usando a velha receita dos políticos do US ,com termos subestimando a potencialidade do concorrente e esquecendo o desenvolvimento interno do próprio país, perante a precariedade da infraestrutura da nação para o bem estar do povo com sintomas reais de declínio de dominância mundial... " American first" 😂
      Veja as autoridades ,cabeções americanas e europeias visitando a China..por qual motivo??

  • @the.colonel2287
    @the.colonel2287 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    EU & USA certification is creating a room for monopoly however the locals can use it as long as it can be received to whatever country’s air space it can host

  • @9999AWC
    @9999AWC หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    6:36 The majority of airliners built use components from companies around the globe. The 787 is still American despite having components from Canada, France, Japan, the Uk, etc. The F-35 is still American despite being built and developed by a consortium of countries. the MC-21 is still Russian despite using parts and components from China, the EU, and the US (well, it did, before sanctions from the war changed that).

  • @bioberliner
    @bioberliner หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    boering is under insanely
    quality problem... folks take care

  • @user-tx6wy7pc1u
    @user-tx6wy7pc1u หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    No, it will just become Airbus-whatever that chinese name is Duopoly. I get chills, when i get my boarding card and it says Boeing and I am normal.

  • @Neel71
    @Neel71 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Remember Elon's derisive laughter after hearing about BYD being competitive!

  • @sungs3917
    @sungs3917 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I have experienced flying with comac, very smooth and even faster to reach destination

  • @user-wp8de6cc9s
    @user-wp8de6cc9s หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    It's funny that the three Competitors are using the same engine(A320neo uses leap-1A while B737max uses leap-1B and C-919 uses leap-1C).

  • @Adebuea
    @Adebuea หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    A lot of components on American planes are not from the United States so why y’all being hypocrites

  • @Wha2les
    @Wha2les หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    Well Boeing is certainly doing their part to give the Chinese firm an opening!
    At this rate, the Chinese plane would be safer than Boeing!

  • @ericgeorge7874
    @ericgeorge7874 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    What wasn't mentioned is the earlier collaboration with Russia's UAC. They could have used UAC's own developed PD-14 engines but I think they mutually stopped the collaboration because of the anticipated sanction issue. So now UAC is continuing their Irkut MC-21 (200/300/310) domestically to be ready in 2025/6. Russia's older planes will need the MC-21 for replacement (TU-134, TU-154, TU-204 and YAK-42).

  • @pbworld7858
    @pbworld7858 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The fact that Comac's doors don't fly off, that they have better work practices, and that they don't get rid of whistleblowers must surely count in Comac's favor.

  • @AscendanceForprogress
    @AscendanceForprogress หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    The more competion is involved the more consumers are assured with quality. Well done comac.

  • @dervue7781
    @dervue7781 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    As if the FAA certificate has any worth. Look at Boeing, it is like that, and there you have it.

  • @daviddixxon7909
    @daviddixxon7909 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Short answer: no, simply because cost of operating and technology 😊

  • @lagrangewei
    @lagrangewei หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    this is actually not the first large jetliner China build. the SAMF Y10 flew in 1980, could carry 124 to 178 passenger, made 130 flight before it was retire in favor of buying Boeing.
    the reality is companies can't produce plane fast enough to meet orders, so it is very logical for airlines to just buy which ever plane would be available quickest than to wait for years for their planes. so the real question is how many planes can COMAC build a year, if the numbers are not comparible, people won't buy it, but if it is equal to Airbus and Boeing, than the duopoly will automatically be broken by the reality of production.

  • @soowo5942
    @soowo5942 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    The Chinese market is more than enough for c 919!

  • @Doggiedogedog
    @Doggiedogedog 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I swear if the us bans or sanctions this company too. They really can’t handle open market capitalism

  • @tiagogomes3807
    @tiagogomes3807 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Not anytime soon.
    But on 15-20 years, maybe.

  • @stevidente
    @stevidente หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Still needs to beat Embraer first

  • @f_pie
    @f_pie หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Jez, the US is not happy with giving up drone production to China, now we’re gonna let them have plane production too just because grandpa US aerospace firms can’t compete, how embarrassing… 😳

    • @whiskeykilo2h429
      @whiskeykilo2h429 หลายเดือนก่อน

      This is because the globalists want it that way.

  • @lambeefbiryani08
    @lambeefbiryani08 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Chinna is crazy in Aerospace Industry.. They made their own space shuttle, space station, fighter jet, commercial airplane..

  • @muhammadhassansiddiqui6828
    @muhammadhassansiddiqui6828 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    We just need to understand that price which Comac can offer will be lower than both Airbus and Boeing. So if this place become successful in international market, both Airbus and Boeing will have buyer only in Europe and USA only because rest of the world do not have problem with Chinese products.

    • @merrick6484
      @merrick6484 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Comac will started with cargo plane first to build up reputation and experience.

  • @TogioLee-qt2ky
    @TogioLee-qt2ky หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    A = Airbus
    B = Boeing
    C = Comac
    D=
    What a coincidence😮

    • @jamesmiller4114
      @jamesmiller4114 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      D = Douglas, E = Embraer

  • @zaidbaig2943
    @zaidbaig2943 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Attleast they are not falling apart like Beoings lol.

  • @TomNook.
    @TomNook. หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    They're safer than Boeing.

  • @revolutionarydefeatism
    @revolutionarydefeatism หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Anything would be safer than Boeing!

  • @CliffordCruiser
    @CliffordCruiser หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    The narrator of this video doesn't seem qualified. She doesn't know much about the aviation industry and she seems wildly biased.

    • @tiago.matias
      @tiago.matias หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Doesn’t even know how to say A320

  • @dragoneye706
    @dragoneye706 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Well the question is how many parts and then I mean all the little parts as well come for the US and Europe for it to function.
    For it to be a fully home grown Chinese plane.

  • @jamessue8358
    @jamessue8358 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It comes down to quality. We shall see.

  • @schalitz1
    @schalitz1 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    I'm curious what airline in Germany was interested in the C919?

    • @blazingstar9638
      @blazingstar9638 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Hopefully none lol

    • @georgelan9985
      @georgelan9985 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      The A320neo is better than the C919, and the C919 does not have an EASA certificate at this time. So, the C919 is mainly sold in the Chinese domestic market.

  • @THEOUTLAWS209
    @THEOUTLAWS209 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Probably safer than Boeing right now

  • @user-cw8tc3hj5p
    @user-cw8tc3hj5p หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    FAA is a national joke 😂😂

  • @leerizer
    @leerizer หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    To be honest I think now Comac is safer than Boeing

  • @seanhsieh4149
    @seanhsieh4149 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    If it is not Boeing, I am not going 😊

    • @Tpavra
      @Tpavra หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      Cool, more room for us normal people to travel 😎

    • @seanhsieh4149
      @seanhsieh4149 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @Tpavra lol, but the availability of airbus is limited , and it is hard to book a ticket 🎟 now.

    • @birdsnature6421
      @birdsnature6421 หลายเดือนก่อน

      same, I would rather be taking an aircraft without a door than taking airbus or comic

    • @seanhsieh4149
      @seanhsieh4149 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@birdsnature6421 without landing gear as well 😎how exciting!

  • @kiribetio123
    @kiribetio123 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    These planes are far safer than Boeing made planes.

  • @ensh888888
    @ensh888888 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Certainly hope they do !

  • @aniksamiurrahman6365
    @aniksamiurrahman6365 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Didn't US and EU authorities ceritfy all those 737s? I wonder what tells about those authorities.

  • @AdmiralIbra
    @AdmiralIbra หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Yes you can see that 90% of this aicraft this not chinese but this just the beginning

    • @zacksmith5963
      @zacksmith5963 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Nope .

    • @JigilJigil
      @JigilJigil หลายเดือนก่อน

      beginning! China has spent 3 decades and over $100 billion to make its own domestic airliner and failed...

    • @zacksmith5963
      @zacksmith5963 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@JigilJigil and still they made it
      Didn't u run away from byd claim lol

    • @zacksmith5963
      @zacksmith5963 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@JigilJigil source ? Proof.

    • @JigilJigil
      @JigilJigil หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@zacksmith5963 No they couldn't, eventually the West made them one, as it was stated in the video 70-80% of the parts come from US and Europe.
      BYD,! there are numerous reports/articles about the quality of BYD vehicles , WSJ had a priece about BYD EVs quality issues a fews days ago.

  • @chavdarnaidenov2661
    @chavdarnaidenov2661 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Well, at least they respect quality standards more than stock buybacks. UK and French engines are in search of a body that doesn't desintegrate in mid-air.

  • @thermalstoragesystemfromtr9513
    @thermalstoragesystemfromtr9513 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Boeing is killing itself, hope Comac can wake them up.

  • @choikof9725
    @choikof9725 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    The airbus and boeing guys are trying to make us believe it will take china ages te be Ready which is ofcourse funny and they giving al lot of reasons which they think will stand in the way, they clearly haven't learned that when china want something at a certain time I will het whatever it takes.

    • @choikof9725
      @choikof9725 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Rihno377 just wait and see. ;)

  • @Ttui89.
    @Ttui89. หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Still, Chinese 🇨🇳 Xi Jinpig uses Boeing.
    -Emirates 🇦🇪, the world's leading airline uses 133 boeing 777s with orders for 205 777s and 35 787s.
    -Ryanair 🇮🇪, one of the leading european low cost airlines uses 547 boeing 737s, with no major incidents with orders for another 224.
    -Southwest 🇺🇸, uses 817 boeing 737's with orders for 495 more.
    No comac, in fact comac *isn't even certified* to fly in many regions and even Embraer, a Brazilian 🇧🇷 manufacturer has had more orders and deliveries for their jets. Lol

    • @johnsoncao3114
      @johnsoncao3114 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Yes, it’s not a secret. Same like Chinese mobile phones industry, there is no Chinese brands at first, technology needs time. There is no need to shame. Start is better than nothing 😂

    • @Ttui89.
      @Ttui89. หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@johnsoncao3114 you can't compare mobile phones to airplanes

    • @dWFnZWVr
      @dWFnZWVr หลายเดือนก่อน

      Comac isn’t going to break into the market anytime soon; it’s not even certified nor does it have the credibility of a long history. For the record, Airbus is the biggest manufacturer in the world. More airbus aircraft fly worldwide than Boeing aircraft. United Airlines has heavily adopted airbus since Boeing’s mishaps.

    • @johnsoncao3114
      @johnsoncao3114 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@Ttui89. Yes, sure they are not the same level in complexity. What I mean, you can achieve.

    • @widodoakrom3938
      @widodoakrom3938 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Source: trust me bro